So I have to return my phone cause one of my led flashes isnt working right so I'm going to run the ruu and return to stock for the return. my question is when I get my new one, after I root again can I restore my nandorid backup on the new phone without issues or is it not gonna work cause of different esn numbers etc?
Bleh, no one knows hehe?
I sure don't know, bunp!
when I get my new one, after I root again can I restore my nandorid backup on the new phone without issues or is it not gonna work cause of different esn numbers etc?
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Absolutely not. You will permanently overwrite your wimax keys, and risk messing many other things up. You cannot restore backups from different phones.
Titanium Backup, however, will work just fine for your apps. Just dont restore any system data, just apps only.
tkrechel said:
Bleh, no one knows hehe?
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sitlet said:
Absolutely not. You will permanently overwrite your wimax keys, and risk messing many other things up. You cannot restore backups from different phones.
Titanium Backup, however, will work just fine for your apps. Just dont restore any system data, just apps only.
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he could restore a nandroid backup as long as he doesn't backup wimax withvit. Then the wimax won't be touched, as long as he's using amon ra he can choose not to back up wimax and cache and recovery, just the other options boot, system, sdext, android secure and it shouldn't do any harm whatsoever. Only if wimax is backed up will it Bork the keys. I made just a back up of my wimax saved it to my pc and never back up wimax when I nandroid. Saves some space and keeps my wimax safe from being lost in case of a catastrophic SD failure, like the night I was bored in the hospital after a car accident, was all doped up on an iv of dilaudid and wiped my sdcard while I was flashing roms DOH! I felt like a retard when I went to flash from SD and it was blank lol. Luckily I had my tablet with my SD backup with me or I woulda been really bored with a dead phone.
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if I get a new phone hardware and I do a nandroid restore using clockwork mod from my old phone I shouldn't lose rsa keys because clockwork doesn't touch these, correct?
I dont think it does but you can check your nandroid file for a wimax.img
You should not restore a Nandroid between phones for a number of reasons, including the fact that some software's license binds it to a phone's serial number.
Just use Titanium Backup to restore apps and their data, and manually restore settings. Don't Nandroid between phones.
Would you trust an image of one windows system restored on another system - image of a dell on a hp? If the chipset is similar, it may work, but you will likely run into weird issues. Same thing here.
Set up from scratch is best. Backup along the way so you have some thing to fall back on when your tweaking fails. TB is very useful in this case.
If you do restore a backup from your old device, let us know how well your 4g works..
Don't listen to these people. I've done it and it works fine. Just make sure you remove the wimax.img before. And you'll have to change the htc folder inside of the nandroid to match the new phones serial.
I made the mistake of not removing the wimax.img. am now stuck using a friends
freeza, until they're comfortable with the technology, they really shouldn't nandroid between phones.
creyc, there's a lot of reasons you shouldn't flash nandroids between phones and until you understand and feel comfortable with what freeza said, just don't do it. If you lose those rsa keys you won't get them back. I highly suggest backing them up before you make an attempt at flashing nandroids between phones. There's guides posted that'll help you do that.
If it were me, I would backup the wimax partition from the new phone. I would search how to do that, and then doit.
That would allow a complete nandroid restore including wimax from the old phone-to the new, then a simple #flash wimax /sdcard/newsavedwimax (on the new phone)
Just saying..
freeza said:
Don't listen to these people. I've done it and it works fine. Just make sure you remove the wimax.img before. And you'll have to change the htc folder inside of the nandroid to match the new phones serial.
I made the mistake of not removing the wimax.img. am now stuck using a friends
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I don't agree with this. There's other settings besides those in wimax.img that may cause conflicts. The kernel is part of the backup too, and depending on the level of tweaking, your new device may not support the settings that worked fine in the old phone. Finally, can you say with utmost certainty there no account related parameters (meid, etc) are stored in the backup?
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I don't agree with this. There's other settings besides those in wimax.img that may cause conflicts. The kernel is part of the backup too, and depending on the level of tweaking, your new device may not support the settings that worked fine in the old phone. Finally, can you say with utmost certainty there no account related parameters (meid, etc) are stored in the backup?
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If you are overclocking, you may want to remove SetCPU before the backup or even after through ADB, other than that, it is completely safe. I've been running on a nandroid from a previous backup since September, with updates to the software obviously, but essentially the same. I didn't feel like starting over, and I had over 200 apps that I would have had to redownload. Not to mention all the settings, tweaks, etc. I gave it a try and it worked out just fine.
I think the only thing besides the wimax partition you have to worry about, is the PRL/profile update. It will no longer work, because those contain the previous MEID/ESN in /data/data/ in a text file. A simple edit would fix it though, or even removing that text file will cause Android to create a new one upon reboot. Other than that, everything works fine. ESN/MEID information are contained somewhere in the radio and is completely different from any of the partitions that nandroid backs up/restores.
Good to know. I'll keep that in mind if I ever have the phone swapped. I may have 10-20 apps on here at best, so setting up from scratch isn't that big of a deal. Still a pain none the less.
Coming from a windows platform, at the end of the day, it's usually better to start over from scratch than to migrate an existing installation onto a new system... From what you describe, that isn't entirely applicable here though.
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Good to know. I'll keep that in mind if I ever have the phone swapped. I may have 10-20 apps on here at best, so setting up from scratch isn't that big of a deal. Still a pain none the less.
Coming from a windows platform, at the end of the day, it's usually better to start over from scratch than to migrate an existing installation onto a new system... From what you describe, that isn't entirely applicable here though.
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Yeah, for the most part I agree. But since Android phones are so simple in comparison to Windows and its registry, I figured "Why not?"
For the most part all you're doing is copying what's in /data to make your phone the way it was before anyway.
Since most, if not all of /system remains unchanged by phone specifics, you could really extract your system.img, make a "ROM" out of it, and have everything you had before, minus settings/etc.
/data is where things get interesting and is comparable to the Windows Registry. However, /data is so small in comparison, that most of the time, it's not a big deal to poke around in there.
Swype FC ring any bells? Why? Since the 3.70 adds Swype and its LIB into /system/lib instead of /data/data/, you get two instances of Swype's LIB, assuming you're installing the beta alongside your already included Swype. This leads to FC. All one would have to do is remove the lib in /system/lib, possibly Swype in /system/app to get their beta Swype working again.
Anyway, if anything were to not function correctly from restoring a nandroid from a different phone, all it would take is a look in /data/data, find the troublesome program, poke around in its folder, possibly clear its cache/cache folder, and maybe edit a text file inside of /data/data and you'd be fine.
Never restore from an old phone two a new phone you may brick it
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So, say hypothetically...one didn't read this thread before he nandroid restored to his replacement EVO today. Well, at first it failed to restore the boot so he went in and individually restored each option besides boot and including wimax. He had no 3G before but 4G would wokr. Now he has no 3G/4G after going through and individually restoring each option, just 1X. He checked his RSA keys using WiMAX RSA Key Checker and the RSA key is present.
Is there still anything he could do to get back his 3G/4G if this hypothetical situation were to be true? RUU work maybe?
So, say hypothetically...one didn't read this thread before he nandroid restored to his replacement EVO today. Well, at first it failed to restore the boot so he went in and individually restored each option besides boot and including wimax. He had no 3G before but 4G would wokr. Now he has no 3G/4G after going through and individually restoring each option, just 1X. He checked his RSA keys using WiMAX RSA Key Checker and the RSA key is present.
Is there still anything he could do to get back his 3G/4G if this hypothetical situation were to be true? RUU work maybe?
UPDATE: I used unrevoked's S-On tool and then did the most current RUU. I then updated PRI/Profile and then made a nandroid since 3G/4G was working. I then flashed CM7nightly23 and now I don't have 3G again. 4G is working and 1X when i cut it off? Any insight on this problem? Thanks
He checked his RSA keys using WiMAX RSA Key Checker and the RSA key is present.
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Its present, but its the wrong key.
Is there still anything he could do to get back his 3G/4G if this hypothetical situation were to be true? RUU work maybe?
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You're pretty much out of luck. Call Asurion and pony up the 100 bucks to get a replacement. Lesson learned.
The Wimax keys are you unique to each phone, and can't be recovered or "given" a new one. He'll have to claim it via insurance, pay the deductible, or live without 4G.
Well I thought I updated the post before y'all commented, but I did use unrevoked S-On and then did the latest RUU and booted up and everything was working. I then used unrevoked and I nanroid backup the stock ROM rooted. I wiped/data/cache and flashed CM7 nightly 23 and only have 4G and 1X now?
Under wifi connections, or mobile data is on?
teh roxxorz said:
Under wifi connections, or mobile data is on?
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Yes, and i have toggled it a few times to check. I have also toggled data sync and stuff like that as well.
I want to go to eb13 but i want all my junk... im on dk28 right now. can i use cwm and backup all my stuff and then update to eb13 then restore data? it worked when i did a reset but this is a new firmware so...?
Restoring data across different firmware's is risky. However, EB13 doesn't look too much different than DK28 so you pay your money and take your chances...
what could go wrong? brick of some sort? software problems?
haha 69th post
anyone got insight? what would happen?
i guess i could just try it and if things get effed up i can always go back to my backup in cwm right?
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anyone got insight? what would happen?
i guess i could just try it and if things get effed up i can always go back to my backup in cwm right?
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yea pretty much. Do it. be my guinea pig and let me know how it works out for you
Worst case scenario you spend a bunch of time getting back to exactly where you are now.
Get Titanium Backup.
Backup all your apps and data.
Flash, root, then reinstall TB.
Restore.
I prefer this to CWM, but it's good to have both...
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I'm in the same boat with apps and stuff
i got some kind of hacked titanium backup but i did it once and it didnt restore everything. like some apps were missing and crap.
You may get glitches and force closes. You won't brick your phone. I've seen some weird issues traced down to restoring /data across different frameworks and builds, but I carried my /data from di18->dj29->dk05->dk17->dk28 without a major problem. I haven't tried it with eb13, but I'm sure it will still be hit or miss for people. If all else fails, just start over without restoring /data. It can be a pain, but it only takes a day or two to set everything up again.
I tried to back up and update to EB13 this morning, and after I updated and attempted to restore, I was without my phone for the day. I needed to go back to DK28 to restore all of my junk. I'll probably just use Titanium this time around, so no, don't try to back up, then upgrade to EB13, and then restore your backup, it doesn't work.
so the dhd fell out my pocket onto concrete and the screen is f**ked, completly smashed. (surprisingly the screen itself is still ok.) luckily i have insurance
I know this is a noob question, but I want to know for sure.. if i make a nandroid backup, this backups everything right? ie every setting, and every app and every icon on the home screen etc etc?
And i assume the best way to check it works is to try and restore it?
Thanks..
it should backup everything except the SD card content.
But if you've got apps installed on your SD card and you leave it in the state it is now, you can put the phone into recovery mode and it'll be exactly the same as before.
Correct me if i'm wrong please.
But what if you get a new phone, instead of this old one repaired? Can you still restore your nandroid backup? Because it's on another phone.
Why shouldn't it work. Its exactly the same thing, just root it and run the recovery.
I just read an interesting article about this and about saving settings and apps to the cloud on Gizmodo.
http://tinyurl.com/6fsmfeo
well the nandroid backup, or at least the one i've done through rom manager/cwm backs up to the sd card, so if i did get a new phone i'd just be able to put in sd card, root phone/install cwm again and then restore?
Titanium Back-Up is good for backing up and re-linking applications if you want to do just add application to a new rom image. I would suggest your current situation might be a good time for a fresh install.
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it should backup everything except the SD card content.
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nandroid won't backup your radio either, so you'd have to re-flash your radio...
Have never been able to pin this down to anything specific. This happens across multiple roms (aosp and sense) while using multiple kernels (I'm using the latest godmode for aosp and nets latest for sense). My phone will sometimes reboot / hot restart when I install something from the market or restore something from Titanium backup. I have a patriot 16gb class 10 sd card with a2sd enabled. Any ideas?
I had this problem with my EVO, turned out to be a CPU failure. Take it to a Sprint store and have them test it. They replaced my phone because of this.
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I had this problem with my EVO, turned out to be a CPU failure. Take it to a Sprint store and have them test it. They replaced my phone because of this.
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Hmmm. Interesting. It is a refurb I got from my TEP insurance. Should I unroot it prior to bringing it in?
Also, my phone will sometimes lose apps after a nandroid restore. The app is there prior to the nandroid backup and then after I restore it its gone.
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Hmmm. Interesting. It is a refurb I got from my TEP insurance. Should I unroot it prior to bringing it in?
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yes, this way they can't blame it on a software issue.
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Also, my phone will sometimes lose apps after a nandroid restore. The app is there prior to the nandroid backup and then after I restore it its gone.
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You probably aren't adding .android_secure to your nandroid backups.
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Also, my phone will sometimes lose apps after a nandroid restore. The app is there prior to the nandroid backup and then after I restore it its gone.
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You probably need to backup android.secure. Games like Angry Birds will be restored if android.secure is backed up.
Ok I know this can apply to any cellphone model with Android but since I am going to try this on a SGH-T989 I decided to post it here. I am going to buy a new T-mobile Hercules cellphone, I already own one but since the USB port is jammed and nobody was able to fix it. I love my phone I don't want to buy a new model and since I am so familiar with this I won't buy a newer phone, besides, I do not need more processing power or RAM, I think the S2 has enough, I'm not that type of person that wants to have the "newest" things.
Anyway, I want to save everything I have on my current phone. I performed a complete backup with Clockworkmod Recovery. The question I have is, am I able to recover using that backup on my new phone, recovering everything from the ROM I currently have with it and apps, or will I have issues and am in danger of bricking my own phone?
I think it's easier to recover that way than to use Titanium Backup. I just want to know if I can recover everything the way I mentioned without any harm.
Nandroid restore on a different phone? No.....bad idea. Haven't tried it.... but the system files will be very different.
You can probably backup user apps and data with titanium backup and copy the backup folder to a PC. Then transfer to new phone and restore.
But no, not a nan droid. No way.
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Nandroid restore on a different phone? No.....bad idea. Haven't tried it.... but the system files will be very different.
You can probably backup user apps and data with titanium backup and copy the backup folder to a PC. Then transfer to new phone and restore.
But no, not a nan droid. No way.
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super backup works great also-and its fast