SetCPU - A few questions - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just to start, I'm not a complete noob, I know the basics of rooting etc, I have rooted my Hero and flashed new ROM's at least 450,000 times. (Exaggeration)
Firstly, I can see there is a kernel that has an overclock feature, but I would like to know if it has an underclock feature? I know SetCPU does, as I use it with my Hero, but I am unsure if it's different for the Desire.
Also, with the Hero, if I flash the phone with a stock RUU it will set everything back to normal. Is this the case with the Desire?
Thanks guys

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My GF will be happy. She'll have awesome battery life.
What are the best settings to have?

liam08 said:
My GF will be happy. She'll have awesome battery life.
What are the best settings to have?
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If you find the best settings to have....please let us know!
The battery life is not fantastic on the Desire regardless.

True, decent on standby, draining like hell when used.
And there is really not much you can do about it, turn off everything you're not using, maybe flash an UV-OC ROM and underclock. Perhaps you can save same battery at the expense of performace but I doubt it would be much.

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Getting my evo Tomorrow!

Hey guys im getting my phone tomorrow and super excited. I wanted to ask here how i can save battery life and what programs i should download once i get the phone. Ive heard that the batter life sucks and im sure there are ways to improve it.
Thanks.
king.0c said:
Hey guys im getting my phone tomorrow and super excited. I wanted to ask here how i can save battery life and what programs i should download once i get the phone. Ive heard that the batter life sucks and im sure there are ways to improve it.
Thanks.
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cyanogenmod 6.0 nuff said
or other people will tell you to search battery and you'll come up with tips and programs to save battery life
Exactly what the guy above me said, there are plenty of little tricks that will help. Also, try getting juicedefender.
Hope you dont like Facebook.
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Hope you dont like Facebook.
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Why? OP can just use Facebook for Android. Works fine.
Hey guys im getting my phone tomorrow and super excited. I wanted to ask here how i can save battery life and what programs i should download once i g
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cyanogenmod 6.0 nuff said
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Why recommend a ROM that isn't even complete (No 4G, HDMI, FM Radio)...
First you want to root your phone. Then find the download for SetCPU on the forums. This is the biggest battery saver I have found. Make profiles in the app to have your phone be underclocked when you turn off your display. Don't get juice defender if you do this because I found that it was draining battery life after it setup.
After that it is all preference. Check the development forum and look at the roms. See if you like Sense or ASOP better. DamageControl 3.2.3 and Baked Snack V9.7 are both really good ROMs. IMO one of these should be your daily ROM and then play around with CM6 as a backup ROM.
Just read everything you can. First and maybe second posts of a thread should tell you everything you need to know. It took me about 2-3 hours of reading before I felt ready to start doing things to my phone and now its like tying my shoes.
Vandam500 said:
Why recommend a ROM that isn't even complete (No 4G, HDMI, FM Radio)...
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...more seriously with crappy battery life (better than stock) but crappier than Snacks, Damage, or Fresh.

questions... newbie help

I recently ventured into flashing my evo and it was quite easy to root, and return to stock. thank you guys for all of the information posted or else i wouldnt have been able to do it..
My questions are about roms.. Which Rom is the best to use for performance and battery conservation..
So far I love HTC sense, but i'd like more battery and less lag out of it.
Rom's I have tried are:
Cynagen 6
Fresh 3.5
and another i can't remember the name but it was based off of android 2.1
All of these roms ATE my battery.. within an hour-hour and a half I was down to nothing, and It sat in my pocket the whole time, after running quadrant.
I did however notice, my phone would never go to sleep on either rom, not sure if i messed up with rooting it or not.
Any suggestions on what rom to use? I don't want to wait two years for the new sense ui and am curious about gingerbread.
The rom im looking into as of now is CM7-EX.v9, Mixed replies for problems/no problems in that thread though.
As i have said I am new to this, new to linux, etc.. any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. thank you and thanks or all of the great things on this forum.
Personally I'm using a customized version of MikFroyo 4.4. I'd have to say what he's done to speed up the system is amazing. A lot of tedious work. I turn it into a "senseless" version and remove an ishload of other apps and use ADW Launcher EX. All in all, it's the best ROM I've used. Battery life is pretty decent as well.
If you like sense then try myn's rls 5
As for roms, what do you need to have and what can you do without? AOSP roms still don't have full functionality but do have really sweet custom things added in that could make up for it.
As for speed, I have compared CM6.1 to the Sense rom I am using now and the Sense one is faster/smoother. It has Mikfroyo 4.4 as the base but is even faster than that one. Battery life is OK.
However, if you are not even getting 2hrs out of your battery then something is wrong. You need to investigate or change some settings because no matter what combo you are using should get at least half a day out of it.
1) Make sure you wipe everything before you flash (I'd recommend Calkulin's format all zip)
2) Let ROMs and their respective kernels "settle into your phone." This usually takes 2-3 days.
3) Pick ROMs that don't emphasize speed/power (CM) as much and more on user experience (Myn's)
4) Check my sig if none of these help (however they should )
You may also want to check and see if you are on the newest pri 1.90 if so you can try flashing back to pri1.77 this has helped some people with the 100% wake issue. Then I would suggest another kernel possibly. Good luck.
Oh and +1 for mikfroyo!
mikfroyo seems to be the way to go... someone told me that the battery life would be junk for a few days but i wasn't sure.. i was more worried about the awake time and the up time being the same, meaning something was keeping my battery on.
I like the sense, in fact i'd love to try the new sense for the htc desire on it to see how it is.. looks amazing.
bloatware and what not i can do without
i dont have 4g in my area
i'd like to have both cameras working(i use them alot with my daughter)
mostly its a weather/texting machine.. sound like i got the wrong phone lol.. but i love the advantages of it.
ruckus226 said:
I recently ventured into flashing my evo and it was quite easy to root, and return to stock. thank you guys for all of the information posted or else i wouldnt have been able to do it..
My questions are about roms.. Which Rom is the best to use for performance and battery conservation..
So far I love HTC sense, but i'd like more battery and less lag out of it.
Rom's I have tried are:
Cynagen 6
Fresh 3.5
and another i can't remember the name but it was based off of android 2.1
All of these roms ATE my battery.. within an hour-hour and a half I was down to nothing, and It sat in my pocket the whole time, after running quadrant.
I did however notice, my phone would never go to sleep on either rom, not sure if i messed up with rooting it or not.
Any suggestions on what rom to use? I don't want to wait two years for the new sense ui and am curious about gingerbread.
The rom im looking into as of now is CM7-EX.v9, Mixed replies for problems/no problems in that thread though.
As i have said I am new to this, new to linux, etc.. any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. thank you and thanks or all of the great things on this forum.
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i really like KINGSrom Ultra v5.0 also get the 4.3.2 the nosbc,nohavs,nouv version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763

[Q] Best Kernel for stock Sense rooted.

I have rooted my INC, removed all the Bloatware etc, all I would like to do now is change kernel for a little better battery life. Would like a Kernel to either set profiles (setCPU) or one that is set up for better battery with no adjustments.
Running stock sense, rooted.
Thanks
There aren't many Sense kernel's that are still updated much, AFAIK, but when I ran a sense rom I stuck with "HeyItsLou Custom Sense Kernel"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859337
But once again, its all your preference, how YOU feel that the phone runs with whatever kernel you choose. Try that, look for others try them, and then you can see which one runs best. Everyone on here has their own choice for "best" kernel, now its time to make your decision too
IME Lou's #8 seems to do the best when phone is idle a lot, but under heavy use battery was no better or maybe worse than stock for me.
incredikernel by chad was best for me all around, even overclocked a little. Trying ziggys right now, Hella fast and stable so far, battery seems mediocre...nandroid and try them all! I never had issues with hydra either but they seemed to have fallen out of favor.
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I've read that people are getting better battery results by getting the SetCPU app and loading in a custom profile. The thread on what I'm talking about is around here somewhere, fairly recent topic. Kernels, from what I read, differ more by people's own experiance than real noticable differences. Perhaps just get some better battery management like with SetCPU, run a dimmer screen, turn off 3g when you're not using it...ya know, the same scenario that windows mobile guys go through. Also go out and buy a car charger, get a cheap wall charger for at work, etc. Its practically a portable laptop. ...sorry I'm getting a bit off topic....I hear incredikernel is a good one.
I thought setcpu does not work on stock kerenl? Is this incorrect thought you need perflock access? I have extended battery and have set my phone for battery saving, just thought be nice to set a few profiles in setcpu.
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[Q][kernal] What's a good one?

I have stock rooted, I love the phone and didn't want to flash a ROM so soon but I was wondering, what's a good kernal thats better than stock, that increases battery while not affecting the speed negatively, I currently get about 10-12hrs on my battery as is
Search doesn't work that well for me on mobile, so sorry if previously asked although I did scan the threads but just wanted to see how you guys are doing with your current kernals
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Try tdj's dark side kernel. Very smooth and great battery life. Plus you can overclock and under volt.
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GreggoryD502 said:
Try tdj's dark side kernel. Very smooth and great battery life. Plus you can overclock and under volt.
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Thank you for the info but when you say great battery life do you mean better than stock?
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relldroid said:
I have stock rooted, I love the phone and didn't want to flash a ROM so soon but I was wondering, what's a good kernal thats better than stock, that increases battery while not affecting the speed negatively, I currently get about 10-12hrs on my battery as is
Search doesn't work that well for me on mobile, so sorry if previously asked although I did scan the threads but just wanted to see how you guys are doing with your current kernals
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i think there's only about 4-5 options out there... but each phone's hardware is different so each kernel will be different.
For example, my phone works really well with faux and darkside, but i get quite a bit of drain from eugene's kernel (yes I do configure my clock speed and voltages) people say synergy has great battery life and is smooth, however, my phone says different. it lagged more than the 3 mentioned and battery life was equivalent. There is also the bullet kernel... i haven't played with that... not sure if im missing any other kernels... but yeah i suggest giving the first three a try first as they are currently being supported.
reminder, you should let your phone go through at least 2 charges before comparing kernel's battery life etc... and with our phone.. thats 2 days lol
Pretty much any of the kernels on the first page will give you better than stock battery life. Faux, synergy and the dark side kernel are the three most popular kernels amongst Devs so that must mean something.
relldroid said:
Thank you for the info but when you say great battery life do you mean better than stock?
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yes it is better than stock, most of us actually UNDERclock because these devs are amazing lol
Thank you all for the reply, I've got some experimenting to do!
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relldroid said:
Thank you for the info but when you say great battery life do you mean better than stock?
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To be honest, i only ran stock for a few hours. Ive been running a custom rom since day 1. But I believe it would be better then stock because TDJ has undervolted the kernel slightly.
I'm using the darkside right now and so far so good
Swyped from my Sgs2 T989
I've tried most of the popular kernels and the best battery life I've observed has been with Synergy... hands down gives me the best standby battery life.
But what I've noticed that gives me even better battery life is just turning off mobile data when I don't need it (in class, during meetings)... which also turns off the background syncing.
But in the end, it's all up to you how crazy you want to get with your battery management.

Best/recomended MIUI rom?

Hello all.
I've been out the loop for a while now, still got stock sense on my DZ but have recently become very interested in MIUI roms. I have a few quick questions I hope someone can answer as after reading the various roms etc I'm a bit confused.
1. How well do MIUI roms work with the hardware keyboard? I'm seeing a few threads saying it isn't totally supported. This is a deal breaker for me really, can anyone clarify?
2. Which MIUI rom? I see there is an official one, but also others similar to official eg MIUIandroid, any particular 'best' version?
3. How is the battery life compared to sense? Does anyone have any current draw figures for screen off etc, my sense draws around 32mA screen off.
4. I assume they come with overclockable kernels, if so, is OC beater or whatever it's called still the best to use?
I'm interested to hear from MIUI users, sell it to me.
1. I've had no problems while using the keyboard with MIUI, it seems to work the same way as before. I have heard some people say that their backlights don't work but mine do. However, landscape is not supported on the homescreen but it is everywhere else.
2. I use the official english supported rom for Desire Z/G2, you can get it from ROM Manager or the MIUI website. I'm not sure about the best one because I've only used the official one.
I don't know about 3 and 4 but I do enjoy using MIUI. It was the first rom I used after I rooted my phone. I used to want sense but because of emoji support and themes I probably won't use another. I do recommend it as I have not been disappointed.
Thanks for replying.
Instead of exact current figures, maybe you could say what your typical daily use is like and what your battery level is at the end of the day?
I've tried miui us and miui android. Both are good and can tell any difference in look feel or performance. Also tried a couple of the miui v4 roms in the dev section. They are really good and give a snappier feel to the miui environment.
V4 is possibly better with battery but marginal. Compared to the stock rom I came from, battery is much improved. No figures I'm afraid as my days vary greatly. Camera is an issue on all ICS roms on the dz/g2 so decide if that's a problem or not.
Enjoy.
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Thanks for that.
I'm gonna flash the 'official' miuiAndroid tonight I think, need the camera so the ICS is a no go for now.
As long as battery is noticeably better than stock sense then I'll be happy.
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Thanks for that.
I'm gonna flash the 'official' miuiAndroid tonight I think, need the camera so the ICS is a no go for now.
As long as battery is noticeably better than stock sense then I'll be happy.
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good luck and enjoy. Give it a couple of charge cycles with the CPU adjusted you should see a significant improvement.
I generally run 900mhz Max with interactive governor.
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i definitely recommend the MIUIandroid version, the translation is far more complete. Miui.us just has faster servers! If you send/receive a bunch of picture messages, I suggest you download my modified Mms.apk from the link in my signature, more info is in that thread.
I've been using MIUI.au v4 for the last few days. pictures are slightly annoying, but if you take two or three, you usually get a good one, but the pictures do have to be taken in landscape.
Well I have been running it for the day and I have to say that I love it! Much better than sense, seems really stable and I love the customisation.
I was going to ask about that mms thing, I'll check the thread out.
As for the battery, it has run down quite quick today but I've been playing with it a lot and expect to need to have a few charge cycles till it settles.
One question though, does the OC/OVbeater overclocking thing work with this rom/kernel or should I stick with set cpu?
Myrmidon83 said:
One question though, does the OC/OVbeater overclocking thing work with this rom/kernel or should I stick with set cpu?
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Just to give you an answer, I don't know. But it's an AOSP kernel so... it should!
Have you flashed the bulletproof addon? It adds the Vituous OC daemon as well as OC/UV Beater. From there you can operate as intended and should probably have no issues. Personally I've never been able to OC over 1,3GHz on any MIUI ROM, may be the Tiamat kernel for me though...Anyway the highest I'd go on MIUI would be just barely 1,3-1,4GHz! Practically you wouldn't be needing more than 1,2GHz for heavier apps but considering this is MIUI and is a bit heavier, 1,3GHz will cater your needs.
Otherwise, OC/UV Beater will work but it will be limited to just Normal configuration, since the Virtuous OC daemon (which I presume you use?) is not cooked in, hence it can not be configured. You also can't undervolt because viper uv is also not included. If you're not interested in flashing Bulletproof then I'd stick with either SetCPU or even CPU Tuner (switched to this over from SetCPU and liking the fact it has more extensive configuration, as well as less battery drain). You can find CPU Tuner in the market, if you're interested.
Also, battery life wasn't half as bad actually. I find the MIUI Launcher to be a bit heavy and more resource consuming for my use. You can use Go Launcher or ADW if you want though.
Take a look at the bulletproof add on pack. It includes some nice tweaks, one being a kernel that supports OCing.
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I've tried miui us and miui android. Both are good and can tell any difference in look feel or performance. Also tried a couple of the miui v4 roms in the dev section. They are really good and give a snappier feel to the miui environment.
V4 is possibly better with battery but marginal. Compared to the stock rom I came from, battery is much improved. No figures I'm afraid as my days vary greatly. Camera is an issue on all ICS roms on the dz/g2 so decide if that's a problem or not.
Enjoy.
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I will like to second that! Im running a MIUI V4 port by ajhavery and lenny_kano (MIUI_Au 4.0.3 base 2.3.2) and it is working very well. Except my battery life is not as good as the official MIUI ROMS. BTW Angel Camera from the market works perfectly on this ROM with no glitches.
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Have you flashed the bulletproof addon? It adds the Vituous OC daemon as well as OC/UV Beater. From there you can operate as intended and should probably have no issues. Personally I've never been able to OC over 1,3GHz on any MIUI ROM, may be the Tiamat kernel for me though...Anyway the highest I'd go on MIUI would be just barely 1,3-1,4GHz! Practically you wouldn't be needing more than 1,2GHz for heavier apps but considering this is MIUI and is a bit heavier, 1,3GHz will cater your needs.
Otherwise, OC/UV Beater will work but it will be limited to just Normal configuration, since the Virtuous OC daemon (which I presume you use?) is not cooked in, hence it can not be configured. You also can't undervolt because viper uv is also not included. If you're not interested in flashing Bulletproof then I'd stick with either SetCPU or even CPU Tuner (switched to this over from SetCPU and liking the fact it has more extensive configuration, as well as less battery drain). You can find CPU Tuner in the market, if you're interested.
Also, battery life wasn't half as bad actually. I find the MIUI Launcher to be a bit heavy and more resource consuming for my use. You can use Go Launcher or ADW if you want though.
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Oh so you can use the bulletproof add on with any miui rom then?
I'm using setcpu just now but I may try cpu tuner. I tend not to overclock to be honest, I'm more interested in underclocking when screen is off etc but I may try 900MHz or 1GHz, it's running very smooth at 800MHz though.
Myrmidon83 said:
Oh so you can use the bulletproof add on with any miui rom then?
I'm using setcpu just now but I may try cpu tuner. I tend not to overclock to be honest, I'm more interested in underclocking when screen is off etc but I may try 900MHz or 1GHz, it's running very smooth at 800MHz though.
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1. Bulletproof addon is for ANY 2.3 based miui. NOT miui v4.
2. The chip in dz/g2 is designed to run at 1ghz. Htc just UCed it to save on juice and market it as a lower spec (that's how I understood it anyway). I find at 800 it just feels a touch laggy. That extra 100 takes the edge off.
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Does installing bulletproof clear any data at all?
Is it flashed from recovery?
Shouldn't clear anything. I say shouldn't as you can never guarantee it. I've never had any issues. Always a good idea to clear cache and dalvik when flashing anything. And yes, its flashed in recovery.
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So I flashed this at the weekend and so far all is well.
Though I must admit, I'm not noticing the battery gains I was hoping for, a minimal boost is all. It does kinda seem that it uses more with the screen on than it used to, some comparison figures for those interested, taken using battery monitor widget.
Screen Off
Stock Sense: 31-34mA current draw
MIUI: 28mA Current Draw
Screen On (taken as sitting at homescreen doing nothing)
Stock Sense: 147-190mA
MIUI: 137-230mA
It's probably still calibrating and I never wiped the battery stats. Would there be a benefit in doing so?
Also, I have noticed that when charging, the light goes green when charge is only around 90% done, any news on this?
The light goes green once the battery is > 90%, this is more or less intended behaviour.
There had been a recent announcement by a Google employee that wiping the battery stats has no visible battery life improvement. All it does is wipe the statistics file that shows you what uses your battery. What you can merely do is run the battery down to 20~% (wouldn't go below that as the failsafe might go off) and then back to 100% for 3-4 times, so that the Battery Meter can become more accurate. From there it is ideal to run it down to 20-30% twice every month in order to keep the battery health in good shape.
MIUI was merely created to be iPhone-ish, cool looking, and very user friendly. It looks awesome, inarguably, but battery life isn't it's strong point. I wouldn't be surprised if it draw more than Sense itself, too. ROM's that have the best battery life are barebones. These have a lot of features suppressed in order to save up in RAM as well as battery consumption. There's also little customizing you can do to them.
However, if you want a good battery life ROM that does not cost you anything in features, you should try Tsubus' ILWT CM7 ROM. It is a CyanogenMod 7 based ROM, that has been fine tuned for speed and battery life alike. I've been a user for a long time and the phones takes me easily through a day with plenty of juice left (about 40-50%). You will have to go through the above meter calibration process again.
Yeah I know and don't get me wrong, MIUI gets me through a day no problem, maybe I was just being a bit too hopeful.
Have to say though that I have fallen in love with MIUI, I can't imagine using another rom now.
well if you are looking to use the bulletproof addon then i made a rom myself with some mods included in it... you can check it out from the link in my signature...

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