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everything new about Tmobile

http://tmonews.com/
^ it tells u all the new things that is gonna happen to tmobile
like there is gonna be 2 new sidekicks released in aug

Now if only Tmobile was interesting enough to follow

iamanalog said:
Now if only Tmobile was interesting enough to follow
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hey back off t mobile, lol. i know they may not have what some other providers have but some still enjoy them, like me. i just want phone text and my cheap internet.
to each his own i guess.

skaroger867 said:
hey back off t mobile, lol. i know they may not have what some other providers have but some still enjoy them, like me. i just want phone text and my cheap internet.
to each his own i guess.
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lol, i know i know i have nothing against them. in fact they have the best CS ive seen for a phone company.

i have t-mobile. no complaint yet. well except...
nvm.

superminipoo said:
i have t-mobile. no complaint yet. well except...
nvm.
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...free service, yea that would be great lol.

I was given a free T-Mobile dash as well as free unlimited service for a year and I quit using it after a couple of weeks and never went back. The other person I was talking to would always complain about poor audio quality. Tack on the fact that many places in Chicago-land didn't even support EDGE and many other places had no service. I won't consider T-Mobile again...
In some places in the US, I suppose they are fine. Unfortunately, I live in a small town called CHICAGO and the service here is horrible.
On the plus side, AT&T will match T-Mobile's pricing if you get the retention department on the phone and they believe you want to leave. So I guess T-Mobile is OK in my book!
-Mc

McHale said:
I was given a free T-Mobile dash as well as free unlimited service for a year and I quit using it after a couple of weeks and never went back. The other person I was talking to would always complain about poor audio quality. Tack on the fact that many places in Chicago-land didn't even support EDGE and many other places had no service. I won't consider T-Mobile again...
In some places in the US, I suppose they are fine. Unfortunately, I live in a small town called CHICAGO and the service here is horrible.
On the plus side, AT&T will match T-Mobile's pricing if you get the retention department on the phone and they believe you want to leave. So I guess T-Mobile is OK in my book!
-Mc
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hmm that is weird considering i do live in a small town in KY and i do have edge...

Trust me, I'm the FIRST to take advantage of F R E E but I just couldn't take it anymore. I've read posts on here and howardforums from people who say that T-Mobile coverage is better than AT&T where they live as well as better voice quality.
I live about 75 miles SW of Chicago and there is zero T-Mobile coverage here. But since I work in the city I was using the T-Mobile to save minutes on my paid AT&T plan. In *TOO* many places, i couldn't get EDGE. With AT&T, I'm 3G everyplace. But if I use my Dash or another phone, I've never had less than EDGE service anyplace I had coverage.
In terms of voice quality, I can't begin to tell you how many complaints I would get on audio drop outs or clipping. I got so sick of hearing about it I just took out the T-Mobile SIM and never put it back in again.
BUT
I hope they continue to grow and get better. I like the possibility of switching carriers if I get too pissed off at AT&T and keeping all of my GSM phones. If I had to go with Verizon or Sprint, I'd probably slash my wrists! I swap phones almost once a day.
-Mc

Smallville Chicago
In Chicagoland I use voice, T-Mobile Total Internet and T-Zones on a Sony GC89 data card, Samsung T409 and the Dash with full bars no problem.
I am posting right now through the wireless internet sharing feature on the dash thats connected to a W2K3 Small Business Server Pro as WAN interface via USB and Active Sync and feeding internet to the internal network. Full bars. No Problem. (I recently had a HD crash on a laptop that was feeding internet to the network via the GC89 - gotta love the Dash - sure comes in handy in a pinch.)
On the other hand T-Mobile is the dog of the latest wireless technologies. I can also understand that signal strength may be different in different areas of the same city and I'm 16.3 miles away from DT Chicago.

Sending back my Tmobile TP2

not because i dont like the phone, but because i found tmobile's service to be vastly inferior compared to ATT. I have a way to get unlimited minutes via google voice, so i need fave 5, so i think i'll be switching to verizon.
Any eta on when the verizon TP2 comes out?

What exactly do you mean by vastly inferior? I think T-Mobiles serive is great and very cheap but it's all about the area you are in. You should always go with the carrier who has the best coverage in your area.

i'm in the MD/DC/VA area.
i'm driving through areas that tmobile reports Great coverage, but i'm still experiencing dropped calls, breaking up of reception, no 3g service (it drops to edge, or G). sometimes i can't transmit ANY data
when it works, it works great, but as i'm on the road quite a bit (realtor), i need something that i can talk on reliably. ATT isn't supposed to be that great, but i definitely value their service over what i got with tmobile. i'll have to wait for verizon
i thought tmobile would be a great option just because of their costs, but the service degradation isn't worth the savings to me.

Ever since one of my old jobs, something became quite obvious to me. No matter what service you have, if you are getting **** service, the price is of no relevance. **** is **** at any price.
I have no problems with it here in Southern California, but I do understand your needs. The one on Verizon won't be out till I think they were saying Oct or something like that.

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i'm in the MD/DC/VA area.
i'm driving through areas that tmobile reports Great coverage, but i'm still experiencing dropped calls, breaking up of reception, no 3g service (it drops to edge, or G). sometimes i can't transmit ANY data
when it works, it works great, but as i'm on the road quite a bit (realtor), i need something that i can talk on reliably. ATT isn't supposed to be that great, but i definitely value their service over what i got with tmobile. i'll have to wait for verizon
i thought tmobile would be a great option just because of their costs, but the service degradation isn't worth the savings to me.
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Should have filed a service request for more 3g towers in your area, Thats what I did

tarroyo said:
Should have filed a service request for more 3g towers in your area, Thats what I did
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Did it help? I don't know anyone that has had to do this, so no experience with it.

I am in the same situation, I am trying out the TMobile but here in Puerto Rico is not 3g yet but I really like the phone and Att doesnt look that are going to release it soon, if they actually are going to do it... ???

They're only focusing on more densly populated areas at the moment.

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tmobile doesnt and will not currently honor requests for 3G service in specific areas, and if youre having your doubts about my infomration, i work for the company. They're only focusing on more densly populated areas at the moment.
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Thanks for the info. Do they consider Puerto Rico a populated area? Do you know when they are going to launch it here?

According to T-mo I should be getting 3 bars (NOT) in my house but if I even pick up the TP2 I have no signal. I have repeatedly called to complain and all my neighbors also called with T-Mo to complain so after 4 months of *****ing they claim they are buying space on a tower close to me in 120 days (we shall see)...Tj

petitioning for better service isnt an option for me as i am within my trial period, and by the time they would act on it (if at all) the tp2 will be out on all the other carriers

gehzumteufel said:
Did it help? I don't know anyone that has had to do this, so no experience with it.
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It did 3 more towers were installed in my area, went from having 1 bar to full bars!

kidvi said:
petitioning for better service isnt an option for me as i am within my trial period, and by the time they would act on it (if at all) the tp2 will be out on all the other carriers
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I disagree, it took three weeks at most not months

tarroyo said:
It did 3 more towers were installed in my area, went from having 1 bar to full bars!
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Wow that is quite awesome. I should do the same in my area by my home. Signal is usually 1-2 bars, with it hovering around 1 bar more often than not.

I played with the TP2 on the T-Mobile 14 day trial. It was terrible! T-Mobile not the TP2! The phone is AWESOME!
Dropped calls, garbled calls, and the data is so slow you can’t get a connection half the time (browser timing out) and with Google maps the page refresh/update was so slow you would drive right off the page onto a blank screen even at moderate speeds around town. I travel around the country and it was no better anywhere. Even with 3G showing!
I’m with Verizon (not had hardly any issues with service) and plan to wait until they offer it, PLEASE DON’T START THE Verizon Vis …. Thing. Just stating an asked for opinion.
Rich

gehzumteufel said:
Ever since one of my old jobs, something became quite obvious to me. No matter what service you have, if you are getting **** service, the price is of no relevance. **** is **** at any price.
I have no problems with it here in Southern California, but I do understand your needs. The one on Verizon won't be out till I think they were saying Oct or something like that.
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Sprint is going to release the tp2 on Sept 8th so I don't think Verizon is going to release it no later than Sept.

Guess your mileage will vary...
Here in s fl, tmo works great for me. Had att some years ago, also good here. Tmo price and cs seems better to me. Got the unlimited loyal customer plan for $49.99month. Hard to beat that.
No dropped calls, ever, and the ph seems to ring for ever if I don't answer.
Web pages open fast.
I seem to get 3-4 bars H3g service most of the time around here. Never seen 5 bars though.
Here is a screen shot at my office showing 4 bars H3g.

Same thing here. I live in Tampa and I always have full bars with 3g. but then again I think Tampa is the 11th largest city in US so it would make sense we all have pretty good service over here. Most people here, that I know or come across have t-mobile. The only thing verizon is good for around here is Fios. what;s sprint? ;p; and at&t are for rich preppy kids who think theyre cool with their iphones. At least...thats the trend over here
apache1 said:
Guess your mileage will vary...
Here in s fl, tmo works great for me. Had att some years ago, also good here. Tmo price and cs seems better to me. Got the unlimited loyal customer plan for $49.99month. Hard to beat that.
No dropped calls, ever, and the ph seems to ring for ever if I don't answer.
Web pages open fast.
I seem to get 3-4 bars H3g service most of the time around here. Never seen 5 bars though.
Here is a screen shot at my office showing 4 bars H3g.
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apache1 said:
No dropped calls, ever, and the ph seems to ring for ever if I don't answer.
Web pages open fast.
I seem to get 3-4 bars H3g service most of the time around here. Never seen 5 bars though.
Here is a screen shot at my office showing 4 bars H3g.
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Your 4 bars is max signal, there isnt' a 5th bar.
btw, what is that a pic of for your background?

Rich W said:
I played with the TP2 on the T-Mobile 14 day trial. It was terrible! T-Mobile not the TP2! The phone is AWESOME!
Dropped calls, garbled calls, and the data is so slow you can’t get a connection half the time (browser timing out) and with Google maps the page refresh/update was so slow you would drive right off the page onto a blank screen even at moderate speeds around town. I travel around the country and it was no better anywhere. Even with 3G showing!
I’m with Verizon (not had hardly any issues with service) and plan to wait until they offer it, PLEASE DON’T START THE Verizon Vis …. Thing. Just stating an asked for opinion.
Rich
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thanks for the confirmation rich! i feel really bad because the customer service at tmobile is GREAT! unfortunately, the actual phone service wasn't good enough for my needs. i hate having to go back to at&t, but i guess i'm enslaved to them. i'm waiting for either verizon to get it, or att now as i know i will NEVER use sprint. i really wanted to use tmobile and hoped they would meet my needs

[Q] Thinking about switching carriers (T-Mobile to Sprint)

Alright. So I've searched the forum with no luck, so I'm asking (if I've missed something, please point me to the right thread and quickly close this one).
I currently have the Galaxy S 4G (t-mobile) and am having second thoughts about my carrier. I found out that I had a discount with Verizon through my job, but even still the plans are ridiculously priced (in a bad way). Since I was exploring an alternative I figured I would check out Sprint. Not only was I impressed by the plan prices, I was very impressed by the Epic 4G Touch (and the Nexus S 4g also). This has me thinking about switching to Sprint.
Now, I live in the Piedmont region of North Carolina. My biggest concern is that I may lose a tremendous amount in coverage and quality of signal. Has anyone here switched from t-mobile to Sprint? And if so, how was your experience? (All of you please chime in, but especially if you live in Norf Cack).

I live in Virginia and I frequently travel to Atlanta and New Orleans. Sprint is ok, but I want to switch to a GSM carrier. My main issue with Sprint is the already installed 3G network. It's the worst of all of the 3G networks and they claim to improve the network in the near future(network.sprint.com). I have been waiting since the EVO for an improvement and everything is the same. The best Sprint phone radio wise is the Photon. The E4GT and the Nexus S 4G has bad radios and I have tested all three. I currently own the E4GT and it's the best looking phone by far, but I recommend sticking with Tmo or jumping to big blue and getting a phone from Craigslist if you want a new one.

knightowl23 said:
I live in Virginia and I frequently travel to Atlanta and New Orleans. Sprint is ok, but I want to switch to a GSM carrier. My main issue with Sprint is the already installed 3G network. It's the worst of all of the 3G networks and they claim to improve the network in the near future(network.sprint.com). I have been waiting since the EVO for an improvement and everything is the same. The best Sprint phone radio wise is the Photon. The E4GT and the Nexus S 4G has bad radios and I have tested all three. I currently own the E4GT and it's the best looking phone by far, but I recommend sticking with Tmo or jumping to big blue and getting a phone from Craigslist if you want a new one.
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One thing everyone must keep in mind is Sprint-Verizon and Att-Tmobile have roaming agreements with each others; if you have a Sprint phone make sure you place it on Automatic and update the PRL, this will resolve your issue, if you can get excellent Verizon signal, your Sprint phone will work; this is something each carrier do not promote to us.

Most carriers (except for verizon) have slow data (Sprint) or spotty coverage (AT&T/T-Mobile). Sprints phones are great if youre in a WiFi area you can make calls and get internet with good speeds.

I recently switch from T-Mobile to Sprint. I used to have the Samsung Vibrant and own the Epic 4G Touch now. So as a previous T-mobile customer and current Sprint customer, I will give you my .02 cents.
I've had Sprint for about a week now, and to be honest, I love it. I wasn't too sure about making the switch, mainly because my friends had sprint phones and my T-mobile Vibrant on 3g averaged around 3mbps download speeds while my friends Epic 4G averages 1.5mbps download speeds on 4G. So thats twice the speed on T-Mobiles 3G, but after playing the the Epic 4G touch, you really can't tell much of a difference. 3G, even though slow than t-mo's 3G, seemed to load up just as quickly, and 4G, even though slow too, actually seemed to load up pages faster. Even when streaming music on Google Music, the 4G connection on my Epic 4G touch loaded up the music faster. Another thing I enjoy about Sprint is that they don't throttle your speed. Last month I went over 5GB on data on T-Mobile and got throttled. First time ever i got throttled. You read about it all the time, but actually experiencing it is a different story. It sucked. One thing i did notice, 4G for Sprint is spotty. I do get it in my house and at my job, but while driving around I seem to lose connection randomly. Another thing is you can't talk and use data at the same time, but I don't really do that.
Another major influence on my switching to Sprint, is T-mobiles murky future. The At&t acquisition wasn't my favorite thing to happen, but it doesn't seem like it'll go through. DT didn't really have a plan B for T-Mobile USA, in fact they aren't really interested in a US market anymore. One possibility for T-mobile was partnering up with cable companies but Verizon's deal with comcast, time warner and brighthouse basically blocked T-mobile from going that route, so T-mobile will probably not have much of a future left in the states.
Like you I was also looking to switch to Verizon, but as you said, prices are ridiculous. It would've been fine for me for one line, but I have a family plan and that just adds up more costs.
So far i'm happy with Sprint. Plus they have 4G LTE planned for the future, so might as well lock yourself in on their unlimited plan before they start follow Verizon and At&t and tier their data.

dallas90733 said:
One thing everyone must keep in mind is Sprint-Verizon and Att-Tmobile have roaming agreements with each others; if you have a Sprint phone make sure you place it on Automatic and update the PRL, this will resolve your issue, if you can get excellent Verizon signal, your Sprint phone will work; this is something each carrier do not promote to us.
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I have the roaming setting on automatic and I have talked to Sprint about updating the PRL, but i don't have call issues like I have data issues. I don't talk on the phone that much, but I can make calls. The data is what I was referring too, which happens to be subpar.

I also switched to Sprint from T-Mobile. I'm in southern Texas (Corpus Christi) and I've had zero problems with Sprint. My loaner Evo 4G was great, good 4G coverage around here although the Evo's battery couldn't really handle that; my minimal contact with customer service has been mostly positive. There's nothing fantastic about it (except my amazing phone), but I can't think of any real negatives so far, either. I'm about three or four months in.

I also switched from T-MO to Sprint. I'm in Nashville, Tn. Got the Epic Touch 4G. No complaints so far. Speeds seem pretty decent. My bill is even cheaper with 2 phones than it was on T-Mo.... So far, everything has been flawless.

I just went over 5Gb for the first time. Received the message earlier today. Speed dropped from 7Mb to 56kb.
So I'm looking to switch to sprint too now. Are they still offering any incentives?

very tempted to make switch as well, using a nexus s on a local carrier only paying $56 month to month. Nice thing & bad thing is I can switch phones at anytime. Unlimited data/texting only $14.99, speeds vary anywhere from 1.2mbps to 6 or so. Becoming tired of switching phones every other month, really havent found something that I like.
Sprint receive a discount of 25%, leaning towards the iphone 4s. Android and rooting is just getting old to me. Sprint bill comes out to roughly $62 plus tax. Sprint in the area is pretty solid as well, but there 3g speeds could be a deal breaker.

MerkSession said:
I just went over 5Gb for the first time. Received the message earlier today. Speed dropped from 7Mb to 56kb.
So I'm looking to switch to sprint too now. Are they still offering any incentives?
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Damn, that is a major drop after going over the cap. Check out how Sprint service is before changing though. Many people get no 4g at all. I do and its great but many have never even had a chance to use it
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I'm one of those Sprint users that's never used 4G. But with the E4GT and Sprint's low prices & unlimited data, the supposed slower data speeds are totally worth it.
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Damn, that is a major drop after going over the cap. Check out how Sprint service is before changing though. Many people get no 4g at all. I do and its great but many have never even had a chance to use it
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E4GT'n & lovin' it

I've been with T-Mobile, at&t, and now I'm with Sprint. I didn't have a data plan on T-Mobile so I won't compare that to Sprints. As far as phone signals and dropped calls I say they're pretty much the same depending on where you live. I just happen to live in a city that's good with T-Mobile and Sprint so I've never had a drop call yet. I get more lost of signal on my Epic 4G Touch (Sprint) but I know that's a popular bug with the Epic Touch so I can't really say how much of the LOS is the fault of Sprints network.
If you want unlimited data go to Sprint. That's true unlimited. No slowing down after 2GB like T-Mobile. But take into consideration you may not get 4G Wi-Max where you live or work. I'm lucky to happen to get it at home and my job.
The only thing I like about T-Mobile over other carriers is they have month to month option. On a major carrier I think that's big. I have no interest going to a carrier made for month to month like boost mobile or virgin mobile. Why? I don't know how good the networks will be. How signal will be. How fast or slow their data speeds are. And they don't have any phones I like.
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I'm one of those Sprint users that's never used 4G. But with the E4GT and Sprint's low prices & unlimited data, the supposed slower data speeds are totally worth it.
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I hear all the time that people have issues with Sprints 3G data speed being super duper slow. The 3G is pretty good on my Epic 4G Touch. It's not slow by any means at all. But 4G & Wi-Fi definitely blows 3G out the water.

It definitely depends where you live. I started with Sprint about 15 months ago on launch day of OG Epic. I had 4g since day 1. I have never had a dropped call and I have full bar service with 8-13Mbps download speeds
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It definitely depends where you live. I started with Sprint about 15 months ago on launch day of OG Epic. I had 4g since day 1. I have never had a dropped call and I have full bar service with 8-13Mbps download speeds
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What phone do you have right now?

I've used them all and I say sprint... But I'm a cheap date...

I had sprint for a few years in college and never had an issue, I'll probably test out my friends iphone 4s to see how it is with sprint. The extra $10 a month for an iphone maybe worth it to me. Although I've been android for the last 3 years, will wait a few months (hopefully) to see what sprints rolls out with the LTE phones, and how the ICS shapes up on nexus s.

I live in LA before coming to sprint I was on tmobile 3g was always fast on my Nexus One every where I was i never worry about coverage. I decided switch carriers for numbers of reasons 1 being that At&t might buy them another was didn't like being throttled after 2gb. sprints plans look better in my opinion but after getting the nexus s 4g wow there is no comparison whatsoever with the epic touch. on the nexus s 4g reception was so bad even wifi wouldn't connect even while standing in front of my router. now when I switched to the Epic touch 4g wifi was good even at the lowest connection 3g is like dial up in my house and 4g is non existing but everywhere else 4g is good 8-13mbps at home is not a bigger deal for me since I have broadband anyway I'm sticking with sprint hoping LTE upgrade is better than wimax.

Any news on the Galaxy Nexus coming to T-mobile?

Now that verizon has the Samsung galaxy nexus, I was wondering if anyone heard or knows any sort of news for the release on tmobile? I was thinking to import it but I don't want to go through the hassle of sending it back and forth if something were to happen to it.

No , nothing flying around anywhere about that. If it ever does, it will be a while. The ATT GSM variant passed through the FCC a while back, so ATT is def getting it. You might be in for a looong wait if you decide not to import, that is if Tmo even gets it, which I doubt we will.

I'd be very wary of signing a contract with T-Mobile right now. They are looking to get out of the US market as quickly as possible. If the rumors about selling contracts to Leap Wireless, or the DirecTV deal are true, I'm not sure I'd want to be under contract knowing that I might be stuck in limbo once the company decides their long term plans.
I just got off of them after being a customer since 2002 after the Voicestream buyout. It feels good!

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No , nothing flying around anywhere about that. If it ever does, it will be a while. The ATT GSM variant passed through the FCC a while back, so ATT is def getting it. You might be in for a looong wait if you decide not to import, that is if Tmo even gets it, which I doubt we will.
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Wrong, that was the Telus version that passed the FCC just like how the Bell Mobile passed the FCC a few weeks before that. There has yet to be a GNexus for GSM USA carriers that has even been hinted at with filings.

edgeicator said:
Wrong, that was the Telus version that passed the FCC just like how the Bell Mobile passed the FCC a few weeks before that. There has yet to be a GNexus for GSM USA carriers that has even been hinted at with filings.
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Well initially the GT-i9250T was hinted to come to ATT, so if this one is headed for Canada instead of ATT now then there ya have it. It's gonna be a while if ever.

as of right now there is no reason to expect a TMO USA launch anytime soon.
the device exists but there is no reason to expect it.
an AT&T launch will probably be in the spring however.
If your a tmo customer, your best bet is to just import the phone like most of us here did. it's a lot more money, but it's worth it.
and as far as TMO dying. tmo isn't going away for a few more years. i've been with them for 10 years and i'll stay with them for as long as i possibly can. don't feel like giving up my nice cheap plan with unlimited data.

If the Galaxy Nexus were to come to att, would I be able to unlock it for tmobile? Would hspa+ work work with an att phone?
Sent from my Samsung galaxy tab 10.1

Mitchmoney said:
If the Galaxy Nexus were to come to att, would I be able to unlock it for tmobile? Would hspa+ work work with an att phone?
Sent from my Samsung galaxy tab 10.1
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The International version features pentaband. If the AT&T version is pentaband then yes it will work.

neok44 said:
as of right now there is no reason to expect a TMO USA launch anytime soon.
the device exists but there is no reason to expect it.
an AT&T launch will probably be in the spring however.
If your a tmo customer, your best bet is to just import the phone like most of us here did. it's a lot more money, but it's worth it.
and as far as TMO dying. tmo isn't going away for a few more years. i've been with them for 10 years and i'll stay with them for as long as i possibly can. don't feel like giving up my nice cheap plan with unlimited data.
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Exactly! TMO is actually a great company for customer service and for phone/data service, as long as you live in an area that they cover. I have to be honest, people keep bragging about LTE and all that. Who needs 40Mbps on their phone?? Unless you're tethering, 2Mbps suffices.
Now that TMO inherited a nice $4 billion cash bonus and spectrum from AT&T, we might see them continue to roll out even more bandwidth. They're already enabling 3G over the 1800mhz band, so iPhones are able to latch on in certain markets. They're not going anywhere...yet.
The $700 price I paid for this phone was well worth it. Keep in mind (because I did not know this) that you will only have a warranty through the company who bought it for you (Expansys, Negri, etc). Samsung will not give you a warranty.

I hope that tmobile does expand but I'm just not sure if it's worth paying 640 on negro electronics.. I will try to sell my vibrant for 200 but that is still 440 that I need to spend on this phone... Is it really worth it for a phone?

Mitchmoney said:
I hope that tmobile does expand but I'm just not sure if it's worth paying 640 on negro electronics.. I will try to sell my vibrant for 200 but that is still 440 that I need to spend on this phone... Is it really worth it for a phone?
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YES! .......

allen099 said:
Exactly! TMO is actually a great company for customer service and for phone/data service, as long as you live in an area that they cover. I have to be honest, people keep bragging about LTE and all that. Who needs 40Mbps on their phone?? Unless you're tethering, 2Mbps suffices.
Now that TMO inherited a nice $4 billion cash bonus and spectrum from AT&T, we might see them continue to roll out even more bandwidth. They're already enabling 3G over the 1800mhz band, so iPhones are able to latch on in certain markets. They're not going anywhere...yet.
The $700 price I paid for this phone was well worth it. Keep in mind (because I did not know this) that you will only have a warranty through the company who bought it for you (Expansys, Negri, etc). Samsung will not give you a warranty.
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well, i live in one of their 42Mbps locations, and honestly, i get pissed that i walk into a tmo store and see them getting 25-30Mbps down and i can't get over 5Mbps.
and then theres the lack of 3G in my home unless i walk outside, and signal cutting out in the hockey stadium, but considering my family is paying about $50 less per month than if we were with another company, we put up with it.
i'm 99% sure my signal issues are due to my plan or some other bull**** though. gonna go to a store with my Gnex and switch sim cards with someone in the store and see what happens, because i know the nexus is capable of 21mbps down. so if they're getting 30 i should be getting around 15, not 1-5.

Same here. I'm in NYC where we should be getting those super-fast data speeds, but the best I've ever gotten is about 5Mbps. Florida is more flat so I assume you should be getting better speeds than me, especially if the phones in the store are reaching that high. It's most likely your SIM, as you said.
Even still, getting 2Mbps and paying much less for the data plus having the capability to tether for free (with or without root) is a huge plus. Comes in real handy when tethering.

allen099 said:
Same here. I'm in NYC where we should be getting those super-fast data speeds, but the best I've ever gotten is about 5Mbps. Florida is more flat so I assume you should be getting better speeds than me, especially if the phones in the store are reaching that high. It's most likely your SIM, as you said.
Even still, getting 2Mbps and paying much less for the data plus having the capability to tether for free (with or without root) is a huge plus. Comes in real handy when tethering.
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oh yeah the tethering alone is enough of a reason to stay. me and my girlfriend go up to orlando a lot, and even though the hotels give you free internet, a lot of times it sucks, like 1Mbps or less (probably damn people torrenting lol) so i usually get around 3-5 up there so i toss on the wifi tether and we both have internet. her on her netbook and me on my transformer.
comes in handy at my school too when their crappy wifi kicks out lol.
I actually have changed my sim cards, and even had tech support take a look at our account and they said they fixed it. I'm getting better DL speeds on the GN than my N1 though so thats at least nice.

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well, i live in one of their 42Mbps locations, and honestly, i get pissed that i walk into a tmo store and see them getting 25-30Mbps down and i can't get over 5Mbps.
and then theres the lack of 3G in my home unless i walk outside, and signal cutting out in the hockey stadium, but considering my family is paying about $50 less per month than if we were with another company, we put up with it.
i'm 99% sure my signal issues are due to my plan or some other bull**** though. gonna go to a store with my Gnex and switch sim cards with someone in the store and see what happens, because i know the nexus is capable of 21mbps down. so if they're getting 30 i should be getting around 15, not 1-5.
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Just because your phone is HSPA+ (21Mb) ready, doesn't mean that you're gonna get 21Mb!!!!!!!!
keep in mind that HSPA is an advanced 3G network, depending on where you are,
and the connection to the closest tower etc., the numbers are gonna vary. I'm in NYC and around, I average 4-9 Mb, which realistically unless you're tethering to multiple devices, what more do you need??
Oh and I would love to see that 25-30Mb download, really........ That's usually what I get at home when connected to my FiOS router , of course that's Mb, not MB.. So when I hit 25-30 with FiOS, I realistically top off at 4Megs/Sec Download, which is effin fast........
The Galaxy S2 is the fastest device currently in the store, with its HSPA++ (42Mb) Radio, that device averages 5-13Mb, even when the Thunderbolt came out on Verizon being one of the first LTE if not the first LTE device, I ran tests in was hitting 12-19Mb, now, after millions more hopped on the network, it hardly breaks 10-12....
One more thing, even if you can pull 100Mb/Sec, I'f the server you're pulling from only allows 10Mb/Sec Upload, your 100Mb doesn't mean squat ..

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Just because your phone is HSPA+ (21Mb) ready, doesn't mean that you're gonna get 21Mb!!!!!!!!
keep in mind that HSPA is an advanced 3G network, depending on where you are,
and the connection to the closest tower etc., the numbers are gonna vary. I'm in NYC and around, I average 4-9 Mb, which realistically unless you're tethering to multiple devices, what more do you need??
Oh and I would love to see that 25-30Mb download, really........ That's usually what I get at home when connected to my FiOS router , of course that's Mb, not MB.. So when I hit 25-30 with FiOS, I realistically top off at 4Megs/Sec Download, which is effin fast........
The Galaxy S2 is the fastest device currently in the store, with its HSPA++ (42Mb) Radio, that device averages 5-13Mb, even when the Thunderbolt came out on Verizon being one of the first LTE if not the first LTE device, I ran tests in was hitting 12-19Mb, now, after millions more hopped on the network, it hardly breaks 10-12....
One more thing, even if you can pull 100Mb/Sec, I'f the server you're pulling from only allows 10Mb/Sec Upload, your 100Mb doesn't mean squat ..
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first off, be nicer in the future, you see I've been here for a long time and have contributed a lot around the forums, that generally means i know what i'm talking about so you don't have to repeat the obvious and add all the exclamation points, it just makes you seem like a bit of a douche.
NOW. if you don't believe me i'll go back and take a damn picture. I saw two guys at a local t-mobile store one with an HTC Amaze and the other with a Galaxy S 2. The HTC Amaze hit 23Mbps download 7Mbps upload. the GS2 hit 33Mbps download, 10Mbps upload. these weren't results, they did it right in front of me and i watched the whole thing.
My Nexus One, which features a 7.1Mbps max chip, in the same store, in the exact same spot, got 1.5Mbps. i've yet to test my galaxy nexus in that store.
now obviously as you said, the amount of people on the network and location makes a difference. But when i see phones hitting 20+ and my 21Mbps capable device isn't getting over 1.5, there's an issue.
so far, best i've gotten on my GN is 5.5Mbps. which i'm perfectly happy with, i just want that all the time, not this 1.5mbps BS when i'm in a 42 area.
and from the sounds of it, you live in an area that has really crappy signal, because most of the GN LTE speed tests i've seen are 30Mbps+ Saw one that hit 75Mbps, though not sure if i believe that one.

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first off, don't treat someone like a dumb ass when they might know (or in my case know) what they're talking about. all it does is make you seem like a ****.
NOW. if you don't believe me i'll go back and take a damn picture. I saw two guys at a local t-mobile store one with an HTC Amaze and the other with a Galaxy S 2. The HTC Amaze hit 23Mbps download 7Mbps upload. the GS2 hit 33Mbps download, 10Mbps upload. these weren't results, they did it right in front of me and i watched the whole thing.
My Nexus One, which features a 7.1Mbps max chip, in the same store, in the exact same spot, got 1.5Mbps. i've yet to test my galaxy nexus in that store.
now obviously as you said, the amount of people on the network and location makes a difference. But when i see phones hitting 20+ and my 21Mbps capable device isn't getting over 1.5, there's an issue.
so far, best i've gotten on my GN is 5.5Mbps. which i'm perfectly happy with, i just want that all the time, not this 1.5mbps BS when i'm in a 42 area.
and from the sounds of it, you live in an area that has really crappy signal, because most of the GN LTE speed tests i've seen are 30Mbps+ Saw one that hit 75Mbps, though not sure if i believe that one.
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I'm not treating you like a dumb ass, I don't even know you....
I live in NY, and in MY experience with the THUNDERBOLT, I never seen it hit more that 20...I don't even hit more that 40Mb/Sec on my Fiber Optic Landline service, most times its 25-35, but realistically my download rate tops off at 3.5 megs....
So if a phone hits 75, that means a Netflix movie should be fully buffered in around 15-20 secs, damn that's impressive, I would love to see that, maybe then I'd change to Verizon and start paying $150/mo.
I do believe you bro, Iv'e seen posts here on XDA with people hitting upwards of 50, but I don't think that's the realistic speed that the device is getting during use.

I don't think the GN will ever come to carriers that have the GS2.

You might be right because I was watching about 2 months ago of an interview with samsungs ceo in the USA on cnbc and he said that verizon is the only one without a SGII so the galaxy nexus will be their own version of the SGII... I hope they still bring it to a carriers!

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Okay everyone, I feel like this a time for those of us that have to decide to renew our contract with Sprint...to make a real informed decision. I'm going to try and keep this short.
Read this first- here
I've been with every carrier EXCEPT Verizon and twice with Sprint. I always knew that Sprint's data network wasn't that great, but I found it usable (barely and often times frustrating). With my contract date ending on 5/3, I started looking at other carriers. I have friends on Verizon, TMo, and ATT. In a very non-scientific way, I decided to test the 3G & 4G speeds on those networks...later comparing them to Sprint. I always found my Sprint speeds to be the slowest...on both. Let me mention that I live in Kansas City...which is in Sprint's backyard...didn't even matter.
With the direction mobile technology is going...LTE is definitely here to stay. However, the battery powering the device is not improving (except for the Razr Maxx). And we all know that 4G...albeit LTE or WiMax, sucks the life out of the standard mAh battery in the device. Which is why, I use 3G most of the time...again, which is not that good on Sprint's network.
Even with the sexy Evo 4G LTE dropping soon, I am starting to reconsider my tenure with Sprint. Even with a good LTE network, 3G still plays a role...at least for me. Paired with my tests and the above article, it proves that Sprint needs to get their sh*t together. A great device means nothing on a sub par network.
I guess I'm angry right now and I don't plan to sit on the curb either. I really want to give Sprint a chance...have been for nearly 2 years. But, I don't want to be optimistic, only to be let down 2 more years later. So my question to my comrades is simple. Are you all going to stay with Sprint or look elsewhere?
Don't worry, I'm a big boy and I can take straight up responses. Sorry for the dissertation.
Regards,
sag
***Mods, feel free to move this to general discussion. I think it may belong there.***

You go to another carrier and get less data for more money, better speeds less quality. Sprints LTE roll out is bringing network vision with it which is enhanced 1x and 3g networks as well as LTE everywhere there is now 3g coverage within 2 years. I'll be sticking with sprint as I have been with every carrier and sprint has the best customer service and actually works with their customers. Vzw doesn't give a rats ass how badly they screw you and will even directly lie to your face to get you to change your plan, device, contract etc. ATT lte is spotty at best TMO is just a joke in alot of areas, and sprints network vision will far surpass all the other carriers by the end of 2014.
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I'm sticking with Sprint. The price plans for Verizon are so much more expensive than what I'm currently paying, and I'm not sure the benefits warrant the cost. Also, I'm optimistic that Sprint is at least trying to get better. Their venture into WiMAX set them back, but they've been moving to correct that. Lastly, I'll be spending the next four years in college where I'll have WiFi available nearly constantly.

See there are so many things I am weighing right now...in no particular order
Devices offered...to include future device offerings
Data Speeds
Customer service
Coverage
Rate Plans
Tethering (the XDA way ;-))
Time to upgrade
I have been following the development of Sprint's network and it really DOES look promising. However, I do not want to wait for nothing. I'm trying not to let impulse or frustration get the best of me right now...really difficult. I love my Evo and I am hoping the love will continue with the Evo LTE. I just want to love the network as well.
Thanks for responding and I hope this continues to create dialog.

Brilliancy said:
I'm sticking with Sprint. The price plans for Verizon are so much more expensive than what I'm currently paying, and I'm not sure the benefits warrant the cost. Also, I'm optimistic that Sprint is at least trying to get better. Their venture into WiMAX set them back, but they've been moving to correct that. Lastly, I'll be spending the next four years in college where I'll have WiFi available nearly constantly.
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By the time network vision is fully deployed sprint is targeted to have the best network in the country. HD voice, consistent 1.8-3mb 3g speeds and LTE with coverage everywhere they currently have 3g with the same signal quality and building penetration as the current 3g network means they will have LTE in a bigger market than any other carrier while having the same or better 3g as well and far superior voice quality, with the customer service they currently have sprint will be poised to be the top dog once again.
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here are a few things floating in my mind on why to switching carriers ( other than having NO COVERAGE aka im runnin in airplane mode just to save battery cuz there is no point on leaving radio on unless i like looking at the x over my signal bars lol)
-boy do i miss sim cards it was WAYYY easier to switch phones imo (yea yea you can even switch sprint phones by talking to them online but still swap a sim and wait sounds like fun)
-i mean the faster speeds would be nice and the limits on amount of data might be hassle but... i really dont find myself downloading roms over the 3g/4g radio (well ok maybe 4g but i dont have that in my particular area either but i get that could be nice) and tethering could be an issue (and i mean by other means not the manufacturers app) since there are caps butttt yeah there is wifi so many places and at the rates the size of phones are coming who needs to tether a lappy lol
-i guess im so over customer service where unless it is really really really really really need im just gonna try to fix it myself just cuz.
andddd to be honest i know this sounds like a stupid thing or maybe just dumb but att has this 50 unlimited plan for the go phone (annnd a sim only costs like 4 bucks or something like that which means no need to hack away with cdma workshop to get my phone on boost or something). downside is yesss you have to buy a phone off plan and yes you still will get throttled (right ? wasnt that what they are doin to unlimited plans?) but id rather shell out for a phone i want that im not stuck with due to contract annnd have my 50 dollar plan throttled than a $100+ plan throttled lol anyways those are some of my thoughts just thought i'd share