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not because i dont like the phone, but because i found tmobile's service to be vastly inferior compared to ATT. I have a way to get unlimited minutes via google voice, so i need fave 5, so i think i'll be switching to verizon.
Any eta on when the verizon TP2 comes out?
What exactly do you mean by vastly inferior? I think T-Mobiles serive is great and very cheap but it's all about the area you are in. You should always go with the carrier who has the best coverage in your area.
i'm in the MD/DC/VA area.
i'm driving through areas that tmobile reports Great coverage, but i'm still experiencing dropped calls, breaking up of reception, no 3g service (it drops to edge, or G). sometimes i can't transmit ANY data
when it works, it works great, but as i'm on the road quite a bit (realtor), i need something that i can talk on reliably. ATT isn't supposed to be that great, but i definitely value their service over what i got with tmobile. i'll have to wait for verizon
i thought tmobile would be a great option just because of their costs, but the service degradation isn't worth the savings to me.
Ever since one of my old jobs, something became quite obvious to me. No matter what service you have, if you are getting **** service, the price is of no relevance. **** is **** at any price.
I have no problems with it here in Southern California, but I do understand your needs. The one on Verizon won't be out till I think they were saying Oct or something like that.
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i'm in the MD/DC/VA area.
i'm driving through areas that tmobile reports Great coverage, but i'm still experiencing dropped calls, breaking up of reception, no 3g service (it drops to edge, or G). sometimes i can't transmit ANY data
when it works, it works great, but as i'm on the road quite a bit (realtor), i need something that i can talk on reliably. ATT isn't supposed to be that great, but i definitely value their service over what i got with tmobile. i'll have to wait for verizon
i thought tmobile would be a great option just because of their costs, but the service degradation isn't worth the savings to me.
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Should have filed a service request for more 3g towers in your area, Thats what I did
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Should have filed a service request for more 3g towers in your area, Thats what I did
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Did it help? I don't know anyone that has had to do this, so no experience with it.
I am in the same situation, I am trying out the TMobile but here in Puerto Rico is not 3g yet but I really like the phone and Att doesnt look that are going to release it soon, if they actually are going to do it... ???
They're only focusing on more densly populated areas at the moment.
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tmobile doesnt and will not currently honor requests for 3G service in specific areas, and if youre having your doubts about my infomration, i work for the company. They're only focusing on more densly populated areas at the moment.
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Thanks for the info. Do they consider Puerto Rico a populated area? Do you know when they are going to launch it here?
According to T-mo I should be getting 3 bars (NOT) in my house but if I even pick up the TP2 I have no signal. I have repeatedly called to complain and all my neighbors also called with T-Mo to complain so after 4 months of *****ing they claim they are buying space on a tower close to me in 120 days (we shall see)...Tj
petitioning for better service isnt an option for me as i am within my trial period, and by the time they would act on it (if at all) the tp2 will be out on all the other carriers
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Did it help? I don't know anyone that has had to do this, so no experience with it.
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It did 3 more towers were installed in my area, went from having 1 bar to full bars!
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petitioning for better service isnt an option for me as i am within my trial period, and by the time they would act on it (if at all) the tp2 will be out on all the other carriers
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I disagree, it took three weeks at most not months
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It did 3 more towers were installed in my area, went from having 1 bar to full bars!
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Wow that is quite awesome. I should do the same in my area by my home. Signal is usually 1-2 bars, with it hovering around 1 bar more often than not.
I played with the TP2 on the T-Mobile 14 day trial. It was terrible! T-Mobile not the TP2! The phone is AWESOME!
Dropped calls, garbled calls, and the data is so slow you can’t get a connection half the time (browser timing out) and with Google maps the page refresh/update was so slow you would drive right off the page onto a blank screen even at moderate speeds around town. I travel around the country and it was no better anywhere. Even with 3G showing!
I’m with Verizon (not had hardly any issues with service) and plan to wait until they offer it, PLEASE DON’T START THE Verizon Vis …. Thing. Just stating an asked for opinion.
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Ever since one of my old jobs, something became quite obvious to me. No matter what service you have, if you are getting **** service, the price is of no relevance. **** is **** at any price.
I have no problems with it here in Southern California, but I do understand your needs. The one on Verizon won't be out till I think they were saying Oct or something like that.
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Sprint is going to release the tp2 on Sept 8th so I don't think Verizon is going to release it no later than Sept.
Guess your mileage will vary...
Here in s fl, tmo works great for me. Had att some years ago, also good here. Tmo price and cs seems better to me. Got the unlimited loyal customer plan for $49.99month. Hard to beat that.
No dropped calls, ever, and the ph seems to ring for ever if I don't answer.
Web pages open fast.
I seem to get 3-4 bars H3g service most of the time around here. Never seen 5 bars though.
Here is a screen shot at my office showing 4 bars H3g.
Same thing here. I live in Tampa and I always have full bars with 3g. but then again I think Tampa is the 11th largest city in US so it would make sense we all have pretty good service over here. Most people here, that I know or come across have t-mobile. The only thing verizon is good for around here is Fios. what;s sprint? ;p; and at&t are for rich preppy kids who think theyre cool with their iphones. At least...thats the trend over here
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Guess your mileage will vary...
Here in s fl, tmo works great for me. Had att some years ago, also good here. Tmo price and cs seems better to me. Got the unlimited loyal customer plan for $49.99month. Hard to beat that.
No dropped calls, ever, and the ph seems to ring for ever if I don't answer.
Web pages open fast.
I seem to get 3-4 bars H3g service most of the time around here. Never seen 5 bars though.
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No dropped calls, ever, and the ph seems to ring for ever if I don't answer.
Web pages open fast.
I seem to get 3-4 bars H3g service most of the time around here. Never seen 5 bars though.
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Your 4 bars is max signal, there isnt' a 5th bar.
btw, what is that a pic of for your background?
Rich W said:
I played with the TP2 on the T-Mobile 14 day trial. It was terrible! T-Mobile not the TP2! The phone is AWESOME!
Dropped calls, garbled calls, and the data is so slow you can’t get a connection half the time (browser timing out) and with Google maps the page refresh/update was so slow you would drive right off the page onto a blank screen even at moderate speeds around town. I travel around the country and it was no better anywhere. Even with 3G showing!
I’m with Verizon (not had hardly any issues with service) and plan to wait until they offer it, PLEASE DON’T START THE Verizon Vis …. Thing. Just stating an asked for opinion.
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thanks for the confirmation rich! i feel really bad because the customer service at tmobile is GREAT! unfortunately, the actual phone service wasn't good enough for my needs. i hate having to go back to at&t, but i guess i'm enslaved to them. i'm waiting for either verizon to get it, or att now as i know i will NEVER use sprint. i really wanted to use tmobile and hoped they would meet my needs
Hey guys I just wanted to check if there was anyone from Puerto Rico with an Evo, add me on Qik and lets keep posted. Qik Username: GSoulPR
me! username: Darkolako, lol first time posting after year + of sneaking around when i got my g1 , launch day in pr~
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me! username: Darkolako, lol first time posting after year + of sneaking around when i got my g1 , launch day in pr~
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Did you get it the day it launch? They are sold out everywhere here.
I'm half PR. Qik username: cd5love96
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I'm half PR. Qik username: cd5love96
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Hey man, added both of you.
Evo from bayamon here! dont have qik yet though
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Evo from bayamon here! dont have qik yet though
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You went to the Google I/O?! I wanted to go so bad man. Ugh. xD Btw, why don't you have Qik, you can set it up from the phone itself. Its very very easy. If you need any help let me know.
Where do you buy I/O tickets? I want to go next year.
Im FROM Puerto Rico, not living there though.
I'm from PR, living there atm, just switched over to Sprint... Any of you guys been w/them for long?
To be honest, I haven't even opened Quik yet! I got my phone on Monday (ordered online to take advantage of a StudentRate discount) and I really haven't had much time to play with it. Will post back when I've messed around w/Quik, might try rooting it as well tonight or tomorrow... New to Android, been trying to read up on stuff here and there and catch up.
EVO in bayamon. The phone is very good but the Sprint network not so much. With a 3G usb modem from AT&T I get close to 2Mbps in most places but with Sprint it stays around 200-300Kbps. Only in some places I have hit what seems to be a cap of 1Mbps. During the 4th weekend I saw the phone roaming a couple times while in the south-west area and DATA was almost unusable.
Hows the network behaving for the rest of you?
Evo from Bayamon! Too!
my Qik is NeoDark
It's behaved fine for me, I haven't had any signal issues around the metro area 'cept at home and AT&T had weak reception here as well. I live close to Bayamon, behind Buchanan, in Tintillo... At the front end of the house reception's fine, at the back end (in my room) it's borderline (data's unusable, but I can just use WiFi so it don't bother me).
I've seen it roam (I'm guessing on Claro's network?) ocasionally, when at home or at Plaza Las Americas (where everyone gets spotty reception) but it's been solid otherwise.
I haven't really bothered testing my 3G speeds... I wouldn't be surprised at all if AT&T had better peak speeds tho, that's usually the case in the US, and I'm guessing that just like over there, they have a better built-out network here as well... I've heard over in the US they can be more inconsistent tho, or have more blacked out areas compared to VZW/Sprint (and then there's all the issues they've had in dense places like NYC and SF).
I'm happy with the service overall, and I haven't even accepted the OTA patch w/the new radio updates... I wanted to root and get it via an updated ROM but I haven't had the time to do it. Looking forward to vising a friend in Aguadilla to see how the EVO and Sprint behaves elsewhere around the island.
Oh and btw, if you're comparing the AT&T modem speeds to tests done on the EVO itself, that's kind of a skewed comparison... The modem's always gonna win out. Try tethering the EVO and see what you get, you don't need to root it to do so, you can use PDANet.
I think Sprint might do some mayor upgrades in the next year in PR. Maybe even roll out wimax/4g. As far as I understand they dont have that good coverage right now and depend on other CDMA providers for roaming. They can use claro or centennial for roaming but that can change in the near future.
Claro is already running on GSM and I dont see much benefit on keeping the old CDMA network up. Running both CDMA and GSM must have costs and Sprint must consider that claro might decide to shutdown their CDMA network in the future.
Centenial runs on CDMA but now that they were sold to AT&T its not clear whats going to happen with their network. One of the conditions imposed by the FCC/JuntaReglamentadora is that AT&T must keep the CDMA network for at least 26 months before merging or shutting it down.
With all this happening I would expect Sprint to play it safe and upgrade their network all around.
anyone knows more about this?
I have no clue, but it's possible Sprint could end up buying some of Claro/Centennial's CDMA towers and equipment if they're gonna transition to GSM 100%... Would only make sense. Doesn't matter much to me, it's not like I've got many other national carrier options besides AT&T and Sprint, 'least not until T-Mobile finally decides to deploy 3G down here (it's taking them waayyy too long). So I'm alright w/Sprint as long as the service doesn't start outright sucking... I switched to Sprint from AT&T mostly for the EVO, got tired of waiting for AT&T to release a decent Android phone, and after they capped their data plans at 2GB there's no way I'd go back to them and start paying more for less minutes and less flexibility.
I used up 1GB of data on my first month with Sprint and I wasn't even doing anything particularly fancy, no video chat, no big downloads, no music streaming at all, no tethering, nada; just web browsing and viewing maybe half a dozen YouTube clips a week. I've also been using WiFi religiously while I'm at home (to preserve battery life). I could easily see myself blasting right past 2GB of usage once I start doing any (or all) of those things
exact same situation here. got tired of AT&T and their half-assed attempts at offering good phones and their customer service leaves you feeling they do the minimum required to get by. I switched for Sprint for the EVO and many references from people saying Sprint's customer service is good. So far I have no complaints besides the "$10 premium data charge" scam:
explainthefee.com
I was just told by a sprint rep today that we will not be getting 4G for sprint it will be a while before we receive 4G so people start complaining
Im in the Los Angeles area and after 10 years of being with Sprint, Ive finally come to my wits end. The data is awful. Ive had a ppc6600, ppc 6700, HTC Diamond, Treo 800w, Palm Pre, Samsung Moment, HTC Evo, Evo3d, Galaxy S2, and S3. Ive been a sprint advocate for years now, probably gotten at least 6 people to switch to sprint. But I cant just deal with the dropped calls and slow data. No, its not my phone, my rom, etc. Its just Sprint. I called cust service to cancel and based on my call-connection ratio, they've decided to let me out of my contract without paying the ETF. I had to bring in my phone for one last diagnostic check, and the tech said its not my phone, its the network, and he totally understands me leaving. Im seriously considering T-Mobile for obvious reasons, but I was just wondering if anyone could share their experience with switching from Sprint. Preferably in the L.A. area, but Im open to hear other experiences. Are you happy? Is the cust service good? Mainly is the 4g data as fast/faster/more consistent?
I've recently had a few trips to L.A. and didn't have any issues with dropped calls or signal strength. The customer service is decent.
You could always go to T-Mobile's website and check the coverage map if your worried about the coverage.
I've had sprint....never going back lol.
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I'm not with tmo, but I have my son on their $30 plan. Also not in the LA area, but some 40 miles north. I can say up here in the desert, tmo is awful. He can't make phone calls inside our house. can't judge data cuz he's using tmo service with skyrocket so only receives edge. Even when we go down to that area for any reason, he has at most 3-4 bars while my at&t s3 has full with lte. Good luck in your choice.
Been w T-Mobile for 13-14 years (since the voicestream days!). Never have had an issue, customer service has always been good to me too. Far far from your area, but I for one have no intention of leaving anytime soon.
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I've been with T-Mobile since AT&T bought out Cingular. In my experience, T-MOBILE service has been great in all large centers I've lived and traveled through including San Diego through to L.A.
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Thanks for all the responses! In the past 2 days I heard negative feedback about t-mobile from radioshack, target, and best buy. They all said its worse than sprint, and that's why they don't carry T-Mobile anymore. I do realize that of course they are going to badmouth the company they don't sell, but I must admit I'm more confused now than ever on what to do.
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Thanks for all the responses! In the past 2 days I heard negative feedback about t-mobile from radioshack, target, and best buy. They all said its worse than sprint, and that's why they don't carry T-Mobile anymore. I do realize that of course they are going to badmouth the company they don't sell, but I must admit I'm more confused now than ever on what to do.
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Best bet is to find people around you with tmo. Friends, family, coworkers. Anyone, just ask around.
I had sprint and switched. Sprint's coverage along pch is better than tmo, but Sprint's data sucks ass. By default tmo phones have built in WiFi calling to help with bad coverage in the mountain areas. Without WiFi calling you'll still have good coverage in most populated areas. Tmos customer service is better and their prices are comparable.
Long story short, switch dude. Tmo is better in LA.
I semi gave up on Sprint. By that I mean I dumped them and went to Ting. No, it doesn't change the piss poor data rates but the lower cost makes it a bit more acceptable.
Testing TMo right now, actually its mvno Solavei. Data rates are much better BUT coverage isn't as widespread as Ting (Sprint). For now I'll keep both in case I find myself out of territory on either.
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Been w T-Mobile for 13-14 years (since the voicestream days!). Never have had an issue, customer service has always been good to me too. Far far from your area, but I for one have no intention of leaving anytime soon.
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+1 I have had T-Mobile in San Diego. Decent Coverage Decent Data. LA has quiet a lot of coverage from them. I have been with T-mobile for 9 years. I have made others switch to T-mo as well. I will not even think about switching to others.
As to the Radioshack and others crappy feedback, know this, These Sales guys get hefty commission for pushing VZW and Sprint. They don't probably get as much commission from T-Mo. So it is in their interest that you don't switch to T-Mo.
Here's T-Mo's Coverage map. Enter your address and it will tell you what kind of coverage you will get.
Lol! That just reminded me....
Anyone see Verizon's recent commercial? They had the coverage maps and theirs was the only one you could tell was for the US. When they show T-Mobile's LTE coverage it's this tiny little bit, less than anyone else, but you have to pay very close attention! It's not T-Mobile's coverage, it's labeled T-Mobile/Metro PCS!
So their only showing metros LTE coverage, but since T-Mobile bought them, Verizon labeled it with T-Mobile to trick people into thinking they were showing tmo's coverage instead!
To me this says a few things!
T-Mobile LTE is more of a competitor than people give credit for.
Verizon must be getting desperate to resort to tactics like this!
Sorry to go a little OT. But it can be relevant in that the other carriers don't want to show T-Mobile's actual LTE offerings. They have been expanding and upgrading like crazy the past few years, and are continuing to do so. So don't write them off if someone says their service was terrible a few years ago. It may be completely irrelevant now.
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So what are my choices for other carriers? I know verizon has different radio bands... Is ATT a possibility? I'm reaching the end of my patience with TMO.
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You've probably heard it before but I think Straight Talk is a great choice if you only need 3gb of high speed data. I just recently switched from TMO to ST using the ATT sim card. It works virtually flawlessly and I've had atleast 4g everywhere I've went (NW Georgia to E Kentucky so far). I got fed up with TMO when I left GA for work for the first time. It worked great in my little corner with flawless 4g LTE. However, as soon as I left and started travelling for work I got stuck with 2g service or wifi only. 2g is abysmal on TMO. It actually functions on ATT the few times I've had it.
So that's my suggestion. Paying off the phones and getting them unlocked was a fairly simple process as well.
I'll be switching to ATT service myself soon. Since T-Mobile wont' stand behind their products with my cracked phone they sold me. LG wants me to hold my phone hostage and then decide if it's actually a problem. Also annoyed by the fact that if you don't have LTE or HSPA service with TMUS, you basically have a dumb phone. And honestly, texts don't even function half the time outisde of their 3G/LTE areas.
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You've probably heard it before but I think Straight Talk is a great choice if you only need 3gb of high speed data. I just recently switched from TMO to ST using the ATT sim card. It works virtually flawlessly and I've had atleast 4g everywhere I've went (NW Georgia to E Kentucky so far). I got fed up with TMO when I left GA for work for the first time. It worked great in my little corner with flawless 4g LTE. However, as soon as I left and started travelling for work I got stuck with 2g service or wifi only. 2g is abysmal on TMO. It actually functions on ATT the few times I've had it.
So that's my suggestion. Paying off the phones and getting them unlocked was a fairly simple process as well.
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Is the tmo g3 radio compatible with ATT and ST for 4G LTE service?
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So what are my choices for other carriers? I know verizon has different radio bands... Is ATT a possibility? I'm reaching the end of my patience with TMO.
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So what exactly is your problem with tmobile, you never stated.
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I would never leave t mobile. Fix your issue with phone. If u pay off you still have issue on att. So fix what is bad. Lg and all the phone makers are the same. That us why you deal with t mobile for fix.
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No, LTE service on the D851 ONLY works with T-Mobile, but you will get the other bands ("4G"/3G/2G) with AT&T.
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I would never leave t mobile. Fix your issue with phone. If u pay off you still have issue on att. So fix what is bad. Lg and all the phone makers are the same. That us why you deal with t mobile for fix.
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I have NO issues with my G3 its T-Mobile. Their coverage is plain bad, no fixing that until they double the amount of cell towers. I looked at their coverage map before changing over and nowhere did it indicate the dead zones that we have found and TMO acknowledges. My wife has zero coverage in her office and would have to go a block or better to make a call and she works in Springfield where you would expect at least 2G everywhere but there are major dead zones. Major interstates lack complete coverage. I can understand state highways and secondary roads but interstates? T-Mobile messed my ETF reimbursement up, additionally T-Mobile "lost" my trade-in phones that they have had since first week of August....their online system sucks, I couldn't process an order and I spent almost 2 hrs working with their IT folks who finally gave up and acknowledge their portal has some issues. My Sim card faulted out and its gonna take 7-10 business days to get the replacement from T-Mobile as they wanted to charge me $25 for expedited delivery that the online chat people couldn't process as that must be charged to a credit card and not to my account WTF!!! I would have to call customer service and waste another hour of time to make that happen....screw that, I order one off of Amazon and paid for one day delivery...total cost $14 of delivery and shipping.....and I still don't have the T-Mobile free replacement Sim yet. I figure I have wasted 12hrs at least dealing with T-Mobile on problems on their side. I get alot of "we are sorry"......why asking what other carriers will my TMO G3 will 100% function on as I know it won't with verizon because of the radio bands
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No, LTE service on the D851 ONLY works with T-Mobile, but you will get the other bands ("4G"/3G/2G) with AT&T.
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I may need to consider this then and thank you. 4G is better than what my wife gets with TMO....
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Personaly, I love T-mo. I switched from Verizon and am saving a boat load. I think it's absolutely wonderful how they've effectively turned every WiFi hotspot into a cell tower. In Charlotte nc, I've run into some areas where i rome but it's usually in a big building and there's always some WiFi. Their CEO has a great mindset imo and their customer service is always responsive as nice to me.
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I have NO issues with my G3 its T-Mobile. Their coverage is plain bad, no fixing that until they double the amount of cell towers. I looked at their coverage map before changing over and nowhere did it indicate the dead zones that we have found and TMO acknowledges. My wife has zero coverage in her office and would have to go a block or better to make a call and she works in Springfield where you would expect at least 2G everywhere but there are major dead zones. Major interstates lack complete coverage. I can understand state highways and secondary roads but interstates? T-Mobile messed my ETF reimbursement up, additionally T-Mobile "lost" my trade-in phones that they have had since first week of August....their online system sucks, I couldn't process an order and I spent almost 2 hrs working with their IT folks who finally gave up and acknowledge their portal has some issues. My Sim card faulted out and its gonna take 7-10 business days to get the replacement from T-Mobile as they wanted to charge me $25 for expedited delivery that the online chat people couldn't process as that must be charged to a credit card and not to my account WTF!!! I would have to call customer service and waste another hour of time to make that happen....screw that, I order one off of Amazon and paid for one day delivery...total cost $14 of delivery and shipping.....and I still don't have the T-Mobile free replacement Sim yet. I figure I have wasted 12hrs at least dealing with T-Mobile on problems on their side. I get alot of "we are sorry"......why asking what other carriers will my TMO G3 will 100% function on as I know it won't with verizon because of the radio bands
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Hand in the phones and go to another carrier. If any fees they will pay for them.
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You guys make the most technically complicated tasks... SO EASY!!!!!!
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What state you live in
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Just my two cents, I have a dead spot on Verizon near home but tmo is fine. Also I love their international approach free 2g and texting, and I'm in Europe every month. Would have cost hundreds more on vzw. So far here in north east haven't noticed coverage ant worse than the other guys but haven't travelled the midwest or south yet.
Oh, and free music streaming.
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Hand in the phones and go to another carrier. If any fees they will pay for them.
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Illinois.
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No, LTE service on the D851 ONLY works with T-Mobile, but you will get the other bands ("4G"/3G/2G) with AT&T.
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This is both correct and incorrect. You'll get a few of the LTE bands from ATT(2 and 4 to be exact). I can confirm that that's true. The most obvious indicator is that the symbols on my phone change from 4g to 4gLTE depending on if I'm covered. I can also run speed tests and see a difference. 4g I get 1-2mbps and LTE I get 7-9mbps. Not perfect but I'm not using my phone for any heavy data usage either. As long as I can browse reddit and stuff from my phone I'm good.
As for "just sticking with a carrier"... Um... NO. Absolutely not. If you're not able to make phone calls or are dependent upon finding free wifi to make a call then I don't think it's worth the money. I don't know what that guys talking about but he's obviously missed the point of this discussion.
Look into Straight Talk, Net10, or Cricket. All work on the ATT network and all will give you just as good of a price as TMO. Cricket offers 10gb of data for 55$ a month. Net10 does something similar I believe. I went with ST just because of the convenience. ST and Net10 are both owned by Tracfone so regardless of who you use it's going to be the same thing. Cricket is actually an ATT owned company. There is some literature floating around the web saying that Tracfone phones will allow you to roam on other carriers services but I'm not sure how true that is or if that even matters anymore.
I really love T-Mobile. I have had the best customer service with them. When I had my Z2s I had issues with the overheating problem and I went through 3 phones and ended up talking to their tech department. They informed me its a known issue and I could try another one. Seems great to me, just had a phone that overheated (not T-Mobiles fault).
I have told many people that reception is quite spotty. I live in Washington and service is great along the I5 corridor but once you start to stray too far off you will lose service. But in data speeds none of my friends with other carriers have come close. I routinley hit speeds of at least 35 mbps.
I can completely understand where most people do have issues. I just use my phone as a mini computer though. I probably use >200 min a month.
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Illinois.
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I hate to say it, but you live in the worst area of the country for cell service (other than the Montana mountains, where there's no coverage at all). All four carriers' networks are really thin, and even Verizon's mighty network has holes where they roam onto partner networks there. Unless you live in Chicago, coverage is pretty spotty as soon as you leave the city limits of any town, no matter what carrier you pick. All I can tell you is talk to people who have usage patterns like yours and get their opinions, because blindly switching may end up getting you the same or worse coverage depending on your location.
Illrigger said:
I hate to say it, but you live in the worst area of the country for cell service (other than the Montana mountains, where there's no coverage at all). All four carriers' networks are really thin, and even Verizon's mighty network has holes where they roam onto partner networks there. Unless you live in Chicago, coverage is pretty spotty as soon as you leave the city limits of any town, no matter what carrier you pick. All I can tell you is talk to people who have usage patterns like yours and get their opinions, because blindly switching may end up getting you the same or worse coverage depending on your location.
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I had verizon for years but got tired of paying thru the nose.. No small decision to go to TMO and based on their coverage map we should have been OK.... But their map is essentially a lie. I spent an hour on phone with tmo thru 3 levels of management who understood if their map is fake and/or the tmo cell phones they sold us can't receive their signals then this situation is going to take a turn for the worse.
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Hopefully G3 will get band 12, but it's OK if it's not because I have AWS repeater installed and it works fine.
I refuse to get Note 4 because it does not support Trad Chinese. I'd go for Z3 or even G4 instead.
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I had verizon for years but got tired of paying thru the nose.. No small decision to go to TMO and based on their coverage map we should have been OK.... But their map is essentially a lie. I spent an hour on phone with tmo thru 3 levels of management who understood if their map is fake and/or the tmo cell phones they sold us can't receive their signals then this situation is going to take a turn for the worse.
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I lived in the IA/IL corridor area for a few years and pretty much every carrier had issues. Verizon was the best in the city, but would drop to 2G in many areas outside the city, or go dead completely. AT&T was a little better from what my co-workers were saying but again they were on 2G once you left the highway corridors. This was before the LTE rollout, so things may be better, but considering that LTE is GSM, and GSM is pretty short range from the towers (vs CDMA, anyway), I would not make any big bets. You can try your luck with either; you will probably get more consistent service with both, but I would not count on them being overly fast once you are away from the cities and highways.
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Illinois.
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First off, hi from the north of you. I'm by the Kankakee area. I do have a buddy that does work at a T-mo corp store in Bradley that has been saying that the area I live and lower Illinois is getting the tower upgrades in Q1 2015. He's trying to get some more info for me since I too live a dead T-Mo area (I get no signal in my office). I maybe stopping in tomorrow if my wife wants to jump to the Note 4. If he's working, I'll ask him if he found out anything more about the IL tower upgrades. I'll let know you if he has any other news.
Edit: Decatur should have LTE coverage for T-Mo looking at sensorly.com. You should check and see about getting a LTE signal booster from T-Mo. Check out sensorly.com to even find what carrier does have the best coverage for you.
Thinking of jumping ship to TMO, for the simple fact I can get root on all my devices. No contract, unlimited everything. Where I am hoping I don't have any issues with service. I am curious to know what the thoughts of everyone. Pro's Con's of switching/staying and or buying a TMO N4 to use on ATT network..
Thanks
pestilencec11 said:
Thinking of jumping ship to TMO, for the simple fact I can get root on all my devices. No contract, unlimited everything. Where I am hoping I don't have any issues with service. I am curious to know what the thoughts of everyone. Pro's Con's of switching/staying and or buying a TMO N4 to use on ATT network..
Thanks
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If you can, I would do the switch IMO. I did it and it was the best solution for me and I couldn't be more happier.
I travel a lot and have had issues with T-mobile working everywhere that ATT does so that is not an option for me, but I have only had this phone for a few days so I am going to go exchange it for the N6 on thursday, that is my solution.
I Stay with AT&T Travel a lot and services always The Best, T-Mobile Not that great when traveling i would know since i travel with a friend and he has T-Mobile Note 4 and loses connection a lot while i am still Connected!
I travel a lot, and T-Mobile sucks badly in MANY areas I go, so ended up going back to AT&T.
If you have good coverage in areas you go, then get T-mobile as they have good plans and are more consumer friendly.
If not, then don't.
I was coming here to make just this thread.
I want to know about using a tmo phone on at&t. what kind of coverage am I giving up
Thanks for the replies everyone, I am in fact testing both phones as we speak on both carriers. Good thing is I have 14 days to test out TMO basically. Seems some areas are about the same coverage wise and some favor ATT and some favor TMO. I am lucky I don't have to travel a lot. I am pretty much situated in the major metro areas.
Going to do more research on a few more things.
I left vzw for tmo last February and it lasted all of two weeks. First time I left Cincinnati and tried streaming music I was met with insufficient data speeds or no connection at all. Took my Nexus 5's to ATT and it was a great choice. If you're a student that rarely leaves the city it could work, but if you travel at all our just value knowing that wherever you go you'll probably have good data, tmo is a bad choice.
I'd switch to tmobile. Can't beat root and custom roms:
I'm in Austin and the att and tmobile service is the same.
Android_Monsters said:
I'd switch to tmobile. Can't beat root and custom roms:
I'm in Austin and the att and tmobile service is the same.
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I can tell you from personal experience that if you go 10 miles outside of Austin you will have no data service with T-Mobile.
Heck I would lose data even staying on interstate going from Austin to Dallas. Let alone any back roads.
But whatever. If it works for you, then cool!
Good service is much more important to me than the phone itself, so I stay with ATT. I'm definitely considering bringing a Tmobile note 4 over to ATT though, that seems like the best solution. Those new $45 go phone plans don't look bad at all.
I was able to walk into a Tmo store and tell them my brother has Tmo and is coming into Texas for Thanksgiving and I wanted to give him an early Christmas present. They didn't even open the box. They even gave me a T-shirt and some other trinkets. Now I'm using it on AT&T with no problems.
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I can tell you from personal experience that if you go 10 miles outside of Austin you will have no data service with T-Mobile.
Heck I would lose data even staying on interstate going from Austin to Dallas. Let alone any back roads.
But whatever. If it works for you, then cool!
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Yup lot's don't know this but the T-Mobile device does fail areas to pickup AT&T Services, With that said i would stay with the AT&T Is fast as hell as it is already and i seen it with my friend we were both in Denver he didn't have a connection on his T-Mobile from AT&T And i did have connection both same phones but mines AT&T His T-Mobile with AT&T Service and he was shocked seeing i have connection and he doesn't So he turned in The T-mobile and got himself the AT&T One and all is good Now!
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Yup lot's don't know this but the T-Mobile device does fail areas to pickup AT&T Services, With that said i would stay with the AT&T Is fast as hell as it is already and i seen it with my friend we were both in Denver he didn't have a connection on his T-Mobile from AT&T And i did have connection both same phones but mines AT&T His T-Mobile with AT&T Service and he was shocked seeing i have connection and he doesn't So he turned in The T-mobile and got himself the AT&T One and all is good Now!
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Is this is an issue with everyone? I have a Tmo prepaid note 4 from bestbuy.com on its way and that is pretty disconcerting, I thought people didn't have issues with connection on AT&T.
BklynNetschamps said:
Is this is an issue with everyone? I have a Tmo prepaid note 4 from bestbuy.com on its way and that is pretty disconcerting, I thought people didn't have issues with connection on AT&T.
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My kids both have N4 AT&T version and I have Tmo version. I get better signal and speed than they do side by side. I wouldn't worry about it.