Why does the Desire's performance suck so badly? - Desire General

I'm a coder with a shed load of console and PC development experience and I've been looking into doing some dev work on my new HTC Desire.
First thing that struck me was how bad the performance of the san-angeles demo is. I recompiled it using the arm7 eabi and still the performance sucked.
So I've tried out Quake 3. MY performance is pretty much identical to this chaps:
(Because I'm not allowed to post links: Look up "Quake 3 HTC Desire" on youtube)
So at least I know its not just me. The thing that confuses me, though, if you compare it to this video of the nexus one:
(Look up "Quake 3 Nexus one" on youtube)
You can see how badly the desire is performing.
So ... erm ... WTF is going on here? The CPU and GPU hardware in the Desire and Nexus one is the same isn't it? IS the Sense UI really causing performance to get hit THAT badly?
Anyone got any ideas how to improve performance? 'Cos this is making me sadly look at the iPhone for games development again and I prefer the Desire in general but the 3D performance is just waaaay too bad

Well i really think it's a matter of good or bad porting, since the Desire and Nexus one are essentially the same in hardware.
I don't think either that Sense have anything to do with it.

The games you're looking at are probably intended for 2.2 which has a massive speed improvement over 2.1. The Desire should be one of the next phones getting it, so that's good.

Does the nexus one used to demo the performance have froyo? Will that have a very positive impact on the Desire's performance?

Strangely I thought "Why don't I turn down the in-game settings?". After doing so it was much smoother.
So I decided to see which setting was killing it. So I pushed them back up one by one. Fine.
So I pushed texture detail BEYOND what it was originally ... Fine (Though frame rate is probably around 15fps). There is obviously something else amiss.
Now I've restarted and even WITH sound its running OK.
So yeah ... I take that back ... would love to know what was going on though.

To be honest, when I looked at the Nexus One Quake3 video on YouTube, everything looked much lower quality than what I saw on the Desire Quake3 video, but it was very difficult to tell as both videos were poor.
Regards,
Dave

Also ... this doesn't explain why the san-angeles demo was running so poorly

foxmeister said:
To be honest, when I looked at the Nexus One Quake3 video on YouTube, everything looked much lower quality than what I saw on the Desire Quake3 video, but it was very difficult to tell as both videos were poor.
Regards,
Dave
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Yeah you are probably right ... Anyway ... porting my GL/DX9/10/11 engine to Android Ahoy!

Might be worth checking what resolution you're running at.
Once I set mine to run at 800x480 rather than the default 800x600 it jumped up to a reasonable speed....although it's still damn near impossible to play without decent controls

If only we had Urban Terror (far better Q3 port) on Android
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HTC desire Vs Samsung Galaxy S vs iPhone 4

Hey,
I am confused and i dont know which one to buy.
Which one would you choose and why?
This is a Desire forum so Desire is going to win
I would say either iPhone or Desire, as samsung in my experience makes crappy products.
Try what's best for you, if you like all the customisation and stuff, go for the desire
if you like a smooth, reliable experience, get the iphone.
try them out for yourself before deciding, people here will just try and tell you that android rules and anything to do with apple sucks.
HTC Desire if you want cool Android Action from HTC and you dont want to spend money for a silly fruit!
iPhone 4G if you want to have the best Hardware and that little apple on the case but only if you dont have to save money...
Like the first poster said... You will probably find the Desire win because it is the Desire section.
My opinion - Desire is, and always will be, my love but that new iPhone sure does look amazing. I think that if I were to buy a phone right now, I would actually wait for the iPhone, the only thing that might stop me is the price. But hey, that's just my opinion, it's going to be your investment so you should make sure that it is right for you.
Well i want to buy a phone in the next month or so and i want one which would easily last 1-2 years without becoming obsolete.
thanks for the replies so far..
Though I would say if you wanted a Desire - to go for the Nexus One instead. if you don't want your phone to become obsolete soon then the N1 is your best bet on the Android platform.
and is it because it would get direct updates from google?
Also, I try to watch youtube videos on my current phone(samsung jet) and it completely fails.
I was wondering, can 720p video be played on android 2.2?
rars said:
Well i want to buy a phone in the next month or so and i want one which would easily last 1-2 years without becoming obsolete.
thanks for the replies so far..
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In that case, I'd go with the iPhone. You're guaranteed to get updates all that time, I mean they've only just dropped the original iPhone, so I think that shows a lot.
rars said:
and is it because it would get direct updates from google?
Also, I try to watch youtube videos on my current phone(samsung jet) and it completely fails.
I was wondering, can 720p video be played on android 2.2?
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yeah because of that, and also stock android is a lot smoother and less buggy than android with sense.
erm i can't see any reason why not, but when would you want to when the screen is only 400 px high in landscape?
Umm to view the video in higher quality?
Well im going to buy a new smartphone next month and I need to decide which phone to get between the HTC Desire and the Samsung galaxy S..
I decided to go with the Galaxy S since its hardware is way better..
And they said that its gonna have the 2.2
the only thing u will lose is the Sense UI (never had it..)
This is a Desire forum so Desire is going to win
I would say either iPhone or Desire, as samsung in my experience makes crappy products.
Try what's best for you, if you like all the customisation and stuff, go for the desire
if you like a smooth, reliable experience, get the iphone.
try them out for yourself before deciding, people here will just try and tell you that android rules and anything to do with apple sucks.
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I wouldent say they make crap products, they are good, its just there crap some what home made ROM's is holding them back alot lol
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Lol I have a samsung jet and it's basically crap. And I doubt samsungs customer service and doubt that they will release updates frequently.
rars said:
Umm to view the video in higher quality?
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720p refers to it's resolution (the number of pixels) as a 720p video has 720 horizontal lines of pixels.
but the desire display only has 400 horizontal lines of pixels. So whats the point of having all those extra pixels when the screen can't display them?
You need an HD screen to get the benefit of HD video, like an HD TV or computer monitor.
But it is quite possible that android will take over apple. And I also read that htc will soon release a phone with a 1.5 ghz processor. And I don't think that nexus one is available in the uk.
atomfix said:
I wouldent say they make crap products, they are good, its just there crap some what home made ROM's is holding them back alot lol
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lol ok I meant in my personal experience they have been crap.
samac92 said:
720p refers to it's resolution (the number of pixels) as a 720p video has 720 horizontal lines of pixels.
but the desire display only has 400 horizontal lines of pixels. So whats the point of having all those extra pixels when the screen can't display them?
You need an HD screen to get the benefit of HD video, like an HD TV or computer monitor.
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Ok lol. So in that case, can it play videos direct from full YouTube website?
rars said:
But it is quite possible that android will take over apple. And I also read that htc will soon release a phone with a 1.5 ghz processor. And I don't think that nexus one is available in the uk.
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N1 is available on vodafone at least, but not as good a deal as the desire.
and don't worry about processor speeds, they're pretty meaningless nowadays.
All the decent modern smartphones do everything instantly, the only place they're going to be different is benchmarks, which don't mean anything anyway.
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Ok lol. So in that case, can it play videos direct from full YouTube website?
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The Desire can, but in really awful quality because it uses the flash lite player. If you use the youtube app you get better quality videos.
This is another reason why the N1 is better, it lets you play youtube videos from the browser without using the flash lite player which is awful quality.
Can not root the desire and install the stock android rom?
If the YouTube app is anything like the mobile website for YouTube,then it's no good.

desire or xperia x10 or samsung galaxy S?

I`m a bit confused right now ... i really loved the HTC evo 4G but since i live in India ... i cant get my hands on that...
The only good phones i am left with are desire , xperia x10 or samsung galaxy
Pls let me know which one should i go for
And i wanted to know how are the games in desire .. are they even comparable to iphone games??... and can it be jailbreaked like the iphone????
heres a youtube vid of nova on the desire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vn2DuPeE-E
Avoid the Xperia X10, mainly due to the terrible terrible battery life and the fact it's still running Android 1.6, as well has having much lower performance than the Desire and Nexus One which use almost identical internals.
As for 'jailbreaking', in Android circles the equivalent is known as 'rooting' to enable you to install all the awesome custom firmwares available on this forum to enable new features, speed up your device or even get the latest versions of Android before they're even released.
Games-wise, there is a decent selection, but truthfully the iPhone is the king of mobile gaming. I haven't found this to be a problem however, as I realised after owning an iPod Touch before my android phone that with most games I'll play them for a few minutes when I download them and then never really touch them again. I use music, video, email, social networking and general internet browsing far more.
As for Desire vs Galaxy S...kind of hard to choose.
Galaxy S Pros and Cons:
+ Large, amazing Super AMOLED screen
+ Most powerful Android device out, especially it's GPU (for 3D games)
+ DivX video support
+ Video-out if you want to connect it to a screen
+ Reportedly great sound quality for headphones
+ Battery life better than most other high-end Android phones
- The phone itself looks like a cheap iPhone ripoff (why Samsung why?!)
- Samsung use their 'TouchWiz' interface on top of Android which looks kind of ugly and adds little
- Samsung don't have a good track record with updates...they've confirmed Froyo but no word on whether it'll ever get anything above that
- Reportedly all custom roms will need to be based off Samsung's official roms, so won't have as large a variety as HTC phones
- Apparently many users have had GPS problems
HTC Desire Pros and Cons:
+ Huge variety of custom roms
+ Similarity with Nexus One means since Nexus One gets updates first, most can be quickly ported to Desire
+ HTC Sense interface on top of Android looks great and improves usability (especially the widgets)
+ HTC's default apps for mail, weather, etc are extremely well designed
+ Will most likely be able to run Android 3.0 (Gingerbread) ported from the Nexus One once it's released
+ Very good build quality and nicer-looking hardware
- Battery life not as good
- Smaller screen that's regular AMOLED rather than Samsung's new variety
- Not as powerful as Galaxy S
Hope that helps! I'm currently in the middle of deciding between the Desire and Galaxy S myself, so done a fair bit of research and tried both out.
AXIS of Reality said:
- Not as powerful as Galaxy S
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as you can see my quadrant score says diffrent
That would be because you're running Froyo, which the Galaxy S has been confirmed to be receiving later this year. =P
The more apt comparison is lower on that graph showing the 2.1 Desire and Nexus One far lower than the 2.1 Galaxy S.
well thanks for that .. i am leaning towards htc desire more now ... just to confirm are there any better andriod phones in the market which are gsm and available outside US ??
AndroHero said:
as you can see my quadrant score says diffrent
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Which battery meter are you using?
vinayendra: since you mentioned only games in your post, my advice to you is to avoid android platform and go with Iphone if games are your priority...
If you still need to choose between these 3 phones, Galaxy would be your choice, cause it's better GPU will be advantage with games
I cant speak for the galaxy S but having used both desire and the xperia the desire wins hands down. The xperia is really laggy and the old version of android is a deal breaker. Once sony pull their fingers out and update the xperia it might be a different story but I dont think we will see that for a few more months yet
the only advantage the xperia has is the large internal apps storage, you dont need to root it if your wanting loads of apps unlike the desire
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heres a youtube vid of nova on the desire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vn2DuPeE-E
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id love to know how to get that game running on my desire, I had it for my palm pre and loved it but the desire just gives me a black screen then it closes
djoni1980 said:
vinayendra: since you mentioned only games in your post, my advice to you is to avoid android platform and go with Iphone if games are your priority...
If you still need to choose between these 3 phones, Galaxy would be your choice, cause it's better GPU will be advantage with games
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Games or not my priority .. i already have a ipod touch ... for me the main things are cool apps maybe even GPS , email and very good user interface ... i have a htc 3G touch ... it really sucks ...after having that i had decided not to go for HTC again ... But i cant buy iphone 4 as it takes a year to come to my country ... and i heard andriod phones are awesome ... so going back to HTC
So anyone owns a desire .. plz tell the pros and cons of desire which u felt while using
Take the desire you wont regret it.and someone already mentiond pros & cons on page 1.
You only have to choose
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AXIS of Reality said:
That would be because you're running Froyo, which the Galaxy S has been confirmed to be receiving later this year. =P
The more apt comparison is lower on that graph showing the 2.1 Desire and Nexus One far lower than the 2.1 Galaxy S.
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can you not read? it clearly says samsung galaxy s 2.2 on the benchmark
pms said:
Which battery meter are you using?
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the one that comes with the expresso theme for 2.2 sence roms
AndroHero said:
can you not read? it clearly says samsung galaxy s 2.2 on the benchmark
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LOL, actually it says <2.2, which is 2.1
djoni1980 said:
LOL, actually it says <2.2, which is 2.1
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oh yeah so it does lol
If you have access to those phones in India go and try them out in person because you won't have a clue on what everyone is going on about except for prior experience on your old Touch.
An Android phone is perfect if you live your online life through Google, if you don't I suggest you move.
An iPhone is known for simplicity and just working until you somehow manage to get yourself into the zoom feature and you're screwed unless you know the zoom out function. These high end phones are true powerhouses in pocket computing and are for more than showing off to your mates that you have a cool phone. If that's all you're going to do, you deserve an iPhone. If you're rolling up your sleeves and learning how to individualise yourself from every other Android user out there then you will quickly learn about live wallpapers, widgets, shortcuts and button combinations. Go further than that and its roms, themes, radios, adb commands so on and so forth.
Know what you want and shop according to it. One of these phones will tick most if not all of your needs and wants. Or something in the near future will. Between the 2 phones, out of the box you are looking at a difference of interface more than anything else. Really suggest you go try them out.
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Jabbafat23 said:
If you have access to those phones in India go and try them out in person because you won't have a clue on what everyone is going on about except for prior experience on your old Touch.
An Android phone is perfect if you live your online life through Google, if you don't I suggest you move.
An iPhone is known for simplicity and just working until you somehow manage to get yourself into the zoom feature and you're screwed unless you know the zoom out function. These high end phones are true powerhouses in pocket computing and are for more than showing off to your mates that you have a cool phone. If that's all you're going to do, you deserve an iPhone. If you're rolling up your sleeves and learning how to individualise yourself from every other Android user out there then you will quickly learn about live wallpapers, widgets, shortcuts and button combinations. Go further than that and its roms, themes, radios, adb commands so on and so forth.
Know what you want and shop according to it. One of these phones will tick most if not all of your needs and wants. Or something in the near future will. Between the 2 phones, out of the box you are looking at a difference of interface more than anything else. Really suggest you go try them out.
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I'd mostly agree with that.
Android phones really are 'enthusiast' phones, in the sense that you get out of them what you put in. For example, customising it to work exactly how you want and look how you want it to look.
The iPhone is made as a very controlled system, so you have only the absolute minimum freedom (ie: change your wallpaper or order of icons). This is ideal for many people who want something that just 'works' and has been tuned to be an intuitive experience for the majority of people.
Android is based around making your phone uniquely yours, such as through the use of the homescreens to fill with whatever you want (widgets, controls, shortcuts, folders, etc). What this means is it requires more time and attention than an iPhone, but the end result is a phone and way of working that is of your own design.
Think of it like Lego:
- the iPhone is where you follow the instructions and get what is shown in the picture on the box (which can annoy people who want to do their own thing).
- Android is where you are given a pile of lego bricks to build whatever you want, so it's far more personalised even if it's not as polished as the iPhone (which can confuse or put of people who prefer a guiding hand and it to be done for them)
I'm happy to sacrifice some polish in the interface for the chance to really make my phone mine, but there are many who feel the other way. That's why it's great we have the oppurtunity to choose between Android and iOS (and soon Windows Phone 7, which seems like a halfway point between the two).
thanks for all that ... Now i am convinced to go for a desire which i will buy sometime this week
i have a small doubt ( a n00b one) .. whats the use of "rooting" and installing ROM`s???.. is it the same as "jailbreaking" in iphone where i can install paid apps and games for free and play with my looks ?? ... or is there anyother use??
i have HTC Desire which i bough from a friend in England, (i live in Seattle) and absolutely love it. My co-worker has Tmobile Samsung Vibrant. Ill give my impressions and quick pros and cons, i may sound little bias but here it is.
Samsung Galaxy Pros
Large SuperAMOLED screen, true 800x480 res, multitouch (Which, while is brighter than the Desire, not that much better, almost cant tell the difference.)
Better battery life, Galaxy also comes with 1500 mAh battery whereas Desire come with 1400 mAh ( again only one day of test with moderate use)
Better GPU
16 Gb of internal storage (which is a huge plus)
720p @30 frames video capture (which also is possible on the Desire with a custom ROM)
Cons
Built quality is extremely cheap, back is shiny plastic which is prone to scratches
Has ugly iphone 3GS style bezel around the screen
No camera flash (this one is a huge let down by Samsung which is beyond any comprehension)
Ugly UI which is a blatant iOS rip off (this one may be strictly preferential depending if you like iOS look or not)
Samsungs proven lack of support track record
Not clear whether gonna have large dev support on XDA
External speaker is horrible, tiny sound (Desire is the same)
That is all i can think of at the moment
Desire Cons
Uses old Clear pad 2000 touch panel which lacks true multitouch support or supports it in a broken way (you can google Nexus one touch screen problems, there is 70 pages plus thread about it)
Uses Cheap Pentile pixel arrangement, which some argue is better for media but horrible if ou spend most of the time reading text on your device. ( you can google Pentile on Nexus One, Anandtech.com has very informative article about this)
Eternal speaker is horrible, sound is tiny and quite
video capture is crap
When using on low brightness, screen has pink hue
Battery life is mediocre
Pros
Built quality is way better than Galaxy, also looks sophisticated compared to Galaxy
Camera flash
Huge support from XDA developers since it is almost identical to Nexus One
Runs Sense, although i equally hate Sense, it is a lot better that TouchWiz
Has hardware buttons (this one is a deal breaker for me as Galaxy touch sensitive buttons are unresponsive at times and generally suck)
AMOLED is almost as good as Galaxy's ( aside from cheap ass touch panel that HTC used on Desire and Nexus One, why HTC why)
That is all i can think of at the moment. I am eligible for an upgrade with Tmobile, but i think ill keep the Desire. Just better phone aside from crappy screen. Hope this helps

[Q] Desire HD Camera/Video/Sound crap?!?!?!

After 1 month with Desire HD, I think i like it but there are these 3 things that are really annoying:
1. Camera:
Very limited functionality/adjustment.
Small sensor (my guess) -> can't get a good picture of moving subject (I am not talking about lighting fast moving subject, just for example baby movement).
2. Video:
Very limited file formats can be played back.
Third party players (rockplayer, vplayer) can play some but still not all, especially mkv...very very very laggy.....
Lagging can also occasionally occur during playback of some avi/divx too?
3. Sound/speaker:
This is the worst.
I am comparing the above with the Samsung Galaxy S........quite disappointed.
so here is my 2 cents question:
Does anyone know whether a firmware upgrade can fix the above issues or it's more like a hardware things?
Is it possible that we can use/port the Samsung Galaxy S Camera/Video/Sound firmware/apk on the Desire HD to improve it??????
Many Thanks in advance
There are quite a few threads round here regarding the camera. Have you tried adjusting the ISO? Having it set on "Auto" is a recipe for disaster, the same goes for the white balance.
Check to see if there are any OTA updates available.
You are right. The Desire HD is the biggest piece of crap I've ever used. Unfortunately Telus gave it to me as a replacement while my Galaxy S is being repaired.
Sound is godawful. I hooked up my quality headphones to the Desire HD and can't get any real volume. The sound is completely garbled and half the lyrics are not understandable. I've tried stock settings, using the Dolby and using SRS as well as playing with the equalizer. The sound just plain sucks. It is totally unusable. I'm not an audiophile so I'm perplexed that nobody else has mentioned these issues. Or perhaps there is a solution I'm not aware of.
Second really annoying problem is that I can't delete hotmail emails... they just pop back on the next sync. What gives?
I seriously don't understand how HTC expects to thrive when they put out crap like this. Doesn't anybody believe in quality anymore? Maybe my expectations are just too high, the iphone JUST WORKS and Samsung's Galaxy was a beautiful implementation of Android. Guess I'll just have to wait for my Galaxy to get back or buy the new SGSII. Having an original HTC Diamond and now the problems with the Desire HD, I swear this company should be bankrupt. I'll never pay for one of their phones again.
I agree with seamus24. My friend has Samsung galaxy S II and checked the sound quality. It really better then Desire HD. Is HTC listening ????
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I agree with seamus24. My friend has Samsung galaxy S II and checked the sound quality. It really better then Desire HD. Is HTC listening ????
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Sorry to admit as an avid user of HTCs...the DHD camera is not as good as the Desire, just remember that megapixels is not everything...noise control on the Desire is excellent, overall producing better photo than DHD. I jumped the ship after playing with the SGS2...camera is very low noise, super sharp...also offered 1080 recording as well...
The video player is limited by copyrights and licenses for format playbacks etc and obviously hardware of the DHD. Not to blame, in most cases it can play converted 720 videos without too much issues with the exclusion of MPEG formats IIRC.
Speakers, well that was **** a bit ****, I still firmly believe that the Desure was a better phone, the audio quality on it I believe was better, in comparison again to the SGS2, well there is no competition...DHD<Desire<SGS2
@OP, even if porting was possible, I fear that the archilles heels is based on the actual hardware of the camera, processor (CPU and GPU) and speaker. All of which cannot be changed or upgraded. There is only so much firmware updates can enable slight improvements. Whilst CPU can be OCed, I believe I read from fellow DHD DEV LordClockan that the GPU on the DHD cannot be OCed. Speakers, even with the enhancement from BEATS, very little can be done through software equalisers...trust me, there are people *****ing and moaning about how bad the SGS2 sound quality in comparison to SGS at the SGS2 XDA Forum...they dont actually know how bad DHD is then...but still...borrowing a DHD at the moment...missed SenseUI hahaha...
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Third party players (rockplayer, vplayer) can play some but still not all, especially mkv...very very very laggy.....
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I'm assuming that's a blu-ray rip you're trying to play on your device? or just another .mkv file (for the quality of picture you get on it)
I tried playing 'Avatar' 2.26GB - blu-ray ripped to a mkv file. Had to take the battery out to restart the phone. I work for a telco, so I tried it on several other DHDs - same result.
Worked like a charm on the SGSII though. I'm assuming, the DHD can only do so much.

[Q] specs and lacks desire hd vs galaxy s

Hi. As many of you I am undecided between the Desire HD and Galaxy S. I'd like to have some advices from you....these are my doubts:
1)there will be more rom support in future (both official producer roms and xda roms) for dhd or sgs? i know...it's difficult to say now, but If you see the number of threads of desire hd is a lot lower than sgs one, even if dhd is newer. This is a negative sign for dhd...
2)SGS has a more powerful GPU, but really in games and normal use there aren't great differences, rather sometimes dhd seems to be faster. Then shouldn't be so important to have the Hummingbird. Is this correct?
3)And even from the point of view of hardware...according to you what's the more interessant compromise between:
SGS: bluetooth 3, 6 axis accelerometer, front camera, superamoled, better battery, tv out
vs
DHD: faster 3G connection, dual flash led, 8 mp camera, more ram, dolby and srs, 4,3", better build material?? (are you sure that dhd lacks of 6 axis accelerometer?)
5)According to me samsung problems about gps and performance (without lag fix) are a very negative thing, because to use sgs performances i'm obliged to root the phone, to install the lag fix and others fix. Instead a positive thing for SGS is that maybe when nexus s comes out users could exploit its rom even for the galaxy, i think that the porting of that os should be easy saw that the hardware is the same.
6)However both htc and samsung announced that there will be the update to gingerbread...or not?
Then according to you what's the best compromise?dhd or sgs?
Sorry for my bad english. Thank you very much
Sgs... has 2.3.2.
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For me the killer is the screen, Super Amoled screens just dont do it for me.
The colors are very vibrant yes, but the pen-tiling on the screens make them look really grainy.
Have a look at an LCD next to a Super Amoled. In person, you wont see it in a video.
My best mate has a galaxy and the difference is really noticable.
This has been fixed in their new Super Amoled Plus screens, but the SGS doesnt have one.
I personally have a Galaxy S phone and I really love it, however the one thing that really bothers me is the battery life, the Super Amoled screens really eat batter life. The backgroung processes also eat quite a bit of battery even when the phone is off. I often have my phone plugged in when Im at work just to keep a charge, I have tried many things to save battery life but nothing really makes a dramatic difference.
SGS 'screen burn'... that's why I went for DHD. Hth.
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main reason i go for HTC is because of the Sense UI. i hate the fact of Touchwiz UI is the exact replica of iOS. i mean come on, iphone icons and homescreen on android? last thing is the lag issue on SGS out of the box which u need to fix. although personally i am impressed by the spec of SGS on paper, but i still prefer DHD in reality.
I've had an SGS and sold it to buy the DHD! Why you ask?
1. Samsung!!! (Good hardware and really bad software)
2. Support - This is XDA Developers after all HTC hardware gets the best support!
3. The SGS is just boring! I like to do benchmarks, to tweak, to test different things! The SGS ROMs are not as flexible as the HTC ones!
4. Speed - The SGS (even tweaked to the sky) is actually slower than the DHD!!! Even some games run better on the DHD than on the SGS! This is mostly the Snapdragon vs Humming bird CPU! Almost everything is optimized for the Snapdragon! Including JIT compiler and Abobe flash! In a test I did, the DHD played an HD chip in a web site without any problems but the SGS was not able to display it fluidly!
The only thing I don't like on the DHD is the screen! The colors are so pale compared to the SGS's Super amoled screen! And the battery of the DHD is not very good too!
I have dhd for Sense. It's just such a great ui. It's a bit love it or hate it though.
Sent from my Desire HD pocket rocket.
I suggest you post similar question in Samsung forum, hearing from both side of the story give better decision making.
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Thank you!! Now i'll follow your advice and will post the same question in sgs forum! Good idea!

HTC Desite vs. Desire S vs. Desire HD

Hi there!
I just wanted to know which one is better, since I couldn't find a good comparison online...
They all feature 1GHz processors, but the Desire has a Adreno 200, while the other two have Adreno 205 (which is, according to WWW, better than 200...). But the Desire has an Amoled screen, the other Desire S has a S-LCD screen (don't know what's better but the 'amoled' sounds fancier), and the Desire HD has a LCD screen... I got the info about these phones on gsmarena.com...
I just want to know:
-what's better for gaming
-what's better for watching movies
-which one has better speakers, for playing music out loud
-what's better for just ... being a phone! - just your opinion (I don't care if it's subjective, just your feelings and thoughts if you ever held one and compared them.)
THANKS!
EDIT:
Yeah, sorry, the title is 'HTC Desire vs. Desire S vs. Desire HD... I want to know about all of them...
1)gaming: there are both even with the same GPU, CPU is 1GHz and there have the same ram 768
2) Watching films: i would say the desire S as it has a sharper resolution of 252 PPI were the desire HD has 216 PPI however the screen in HDH is bigger
3)sound- im not sure
here is the other things you might want to know:
1- camera HDH wins beacuse it has a 8MP where the desire s only has 5 MP howvere the desire s has a secondary camera with a 1.3 MP were to HDH hasnt there both 720p recording
2-battery: if you care about battary than the desire s has a better one.
3-talk time: desire S wins
Hope that helps
What about Desire, the original HTC Desire? It's GPU seems to be... low against S and HD... Anything about that?
someone755 said:
What about Desire, the original HTC Desire? It's GPU seems to be... low against S and HD... Anything about that?
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You may as well forget about getting the Desire, there's no point now. It's old.
Desire S - looks good, good screen, good memory, good hardware.
Desire HD - Very bad battery life (from what I hear), sucky screen (but bigger), good hardware, good memory
I'd get a DesireS hands down. Actually.. if I was going to get a new phone it'd be a Galaxy Nexus, but out of those 3 the Desire S is the best choice.
Desire would be pointless compared to the desire s and HDH
and yes the HDH has a poor battery but the desire s and desire HD have similar specs but desire S wins for me
Thanks for the info! But about the price, which one is 'costier' and is it a good idea to buy a used android phone?
Sorry for bugging you...
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bortak, isnt that the desire in your signature? looks like it to me...
if u dont need htc sense, in my opinion the nexus s is the best compromise between price and performance at the moment
it already got ICS, better interface than the htc sense probably
The Desire is obsolete. No point in buying one now. While it's a good phone and can still hold its own, it has very low internal memory and that's a big problem now'days, as apps have gotten quite large (and interesting, which makes you wanna install more and more and more etc.). Sure, you can circumvent the low internal memory issue using an APPS2SD ROM, but why go through the hassle if you can completely avoid it?
In my opinion, the better phone between the three is the Desire S. Best battery life, easy to hold with one hand or fit in the pocket, decent screen, good GPU, good CPU, decent internal memory, Sense 3 straight from HTC, touch buttons (as opposed to physical buttons in the Desire, which are prone to failure). Just watch out for bad copies, as i've seen that there are quite a few people who had to return their phones because of mainboard issues. Some even got a replacement phone (brand new) with the same issue (mostly random reboots). So if you decide to get one, try and buy one which is still under warranty.
Regarding the HD and its low pixel density, that isn't that much of an issue in real life usage. The only thing about the HD is that it's quite big and it has quite a low battery life, making you need to carry your charger around with you.
If you're not really set on an HTC phone, yes, i have to agree, the Nexus S is best bang for buck ATM as ICS is quite the hit and it's gettin' it straight from Google, baby! Nothing faster than an AOSP ROM! Also, the ICS interface rocks!
Thanks, you guys!
but, about nexus, a used desire s costs three times less than a used nexus... anyways, the nexus is brand new here and people aren't showing much interest in it... besides, a new one costs ~650€ here and there are no used ones...
Nexus s or galaxy nexus
someone755 said:
[...] anyways, the nexus is brand new here and people aren't showing much interest in it... besides, a new one costs ~650€ here and there are no used ones...
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We're suggesting you buy a Google Nexus S, not a Google Galaxy Nexus. The Google Nexus S is basically a Samsung Galaxy S under the hood, the main difference being the fact that it gets all its updates straight from Google, including ICS (which Samsung isn't bringing to its Galaxy S line 'cause of "space reasons").
What about the screen res. between the nexus s and desire s? and the nexus s doesn't have radio... and they both have the same processor... so i'd reccommend the desire s more than nexus s...
someone755 said:
Hi there!
I just wanted to know which one is better, since I couldn't find a good comparison online...
They all feature 1GHz processors, but the Desire has a Adreno 200, while the other two have Adreno 205 (which is, according to WWW, better than 200...). But the Desire has an Amoled screen, the other Desire S has a S-LCD screen (don't know what's better but the 'amoled' sounds fancier), and the Desire HD has a LCD screen... I got the info about these phones on gsmarena.com...
I just want to know:
-what's better for gaming
-what's better for watching movies
-which one has better speakers, for playing music out loud
-what's better for just ... being a phone! - just your opinion (I don't care if it's subjective, just your feelings and thoughts if you ever held one and compared them.)
THANKS!
EDIT:
Yeah, sorry, the title is 'HTC Desire vs. Desire S vs. Desire HD... I want to know about all of them...
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desire is the worst of them.it is the worst for gaming and watching movies.for watching movies i guess desire hd is the best since it has a 4.3 inch screen.My opinion desire hd is the best of them all.and if you root you can even overclock the dhd to 1.5 ghz stable.desire isnt a good overclocker the stable rate is 1113.not sure about desire s.but it could probably get more overclocked then normal desire.Thats my opinion

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