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Desire HD

Remember a few weeks back when I posted the rumour about the HTC Desire HD?
Well it appears that it may have been more than just a rumour.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/htc-desire-hd-spotted-in-the-wild-with-evo-like-form-factor-and/
Looks kinda crummy to me. I much prefer my Desire to this one. (If it is the Desire HD).

i want 1 it comes out in the uk they wont let me swap it lyk the iphone

that doesn't look like a aluminium unibody to me, saying that i never thought it would have one anyway, that would just make it far too good looking and competitive lol

I want one too... I prefer bigger screen.

The hardware is basically identical to the Desire. That 1GHz Snapdragon is looking a little long in the tooth at this stage, especially if you're interested in playing games on it (I'm not, but still). If I was going to lock myself into a 12 month phone contract I'd wait for something a bit more future-proof.
Apparently the dual-core Qualcomm cpus started shipping to manufacturers in June. So if you're smart, you'll wait a while longer...

damn, i thought that HTC Desire HD will be better resolution ( like IPhone display, maybe even 720p ), dual core 2x800Mhz and better GPU ( better that then Samsung Captivate ).
My next phone will be dual core for sure. but as i see i have to wait for it a little bit longer .
But it look like HTC desire (well, back look like same color )

The HTC site now has a new model listed, the HTC Aria which looks very similar to this phone..
http://www.htc.com/www/product/aria/overview.html
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It's more like HD2 then Desire IMHO. Which is good, since I won't go to smaller screen then my current HD2.
New info, video: http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/09/htcs-4-3-inch-desire-hd-shows-up-on-video

aindow said:
The HTC site now has a new model listed, the HTC Aria which looks very similar to this phone..
http://www.htc.com/www/product/aria/overview.html
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The Aria is basically AT&T's version of the Wildfire.

Where are the hardware keys and the optic trackpad?

Good question .. I'd say nowhere.

Yess.. physical buttons much more desired + 4" screen is also ideal size in my opinion like on Galaxy n SE-X10 rather than 4,3 since it is still a cell-phone, not tablet. You can add wifi-n, native divx support and tv-out (both dlna and wired) to existing Desire features. Then we can mention it really desirable, even -almost- perfect!
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Yeah, cant wait the announcement (September 15?).
But, I might not upgrade if it is only 4.3" + internal memory (4GB).
Add the new dual core snapdragon and MUCH BETTER video capture (current 480p and 720p are jokes!), I will buy 2 !!!!

As a HD2 owner I say to you: you will get used to 4.3 inches in a day and you will never want go back. Trust me on this.

looks like its available on oct 1st. amazon had it priced at £415, but took the page down.

Dr.Sid said:
As a HD2 owner I say to you: you will get used to 4.3 inches in a day and you will never want go back. Trust me on this.
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Funny, thats the one main thing I miss about my old HD2, I love my Desire, but it took a bit of getting used to going back to a smaller screen.

[Q] DHD or DZ

hi,
i wanted to ask which phone should i go for, the desire HD or desire Z ... which one is better in performance an has less flaws... the desire z looks weak- for exsample if it would fall on the ground would it break because of the loose hinge, the desire hd - soome people say that the screen is less crisp than the desire Zs and also DHD looks very very big (is it too big) ... so i ask you guys to help me decide which one should i buy .
greetings

The Desire HD is better in performance as far as I know.
The screen aint that big, it fits in your hand and it's nice to browse on the internet with a bigger screen.

5kordez5 said:
hi,
i wanted to ask which phone should i go for, the desire HD or desire Z ... which one is better in performance an has less flaws... the desire z looks weak- for exsample if it would fall on the ground would it break because of the loose hinge, the desire hd - soome people say that the screen is less crisp than the desire Zs and also DHD looks very very big (is it too big) ... so i ask you guys to help me decide which one should i buy .
greetings
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1 Better in performance = generally desire HD, because of higher stock speed.
2 Build = desire HD HECK in my honest opinion the z-hinge wasnt a wise design. (i could be wrong)
3 screen = In my opinion if you'd like high res screens you should go for desire-Z. When placed side by side with desire HD, I think the colours look a slightly more vivid.
AH but of course, I've been using my phone(DHD) for 1 month and i can't differentiate between the individual pixels when my eyes are more than 7 cm from the screen. So all in all , I dont think the resolution of the screen screen is a problem of the DHD.
Main disadvantages of the DHD is that sometimes your pocketablility(LOL) is affected at some times, because of its sheer size.(especially if you LOVE wearing skinnys).Not a problem for me though.

If the hinge on the Z is made as well as that on the G1 you'll be fine. The G1 is virtually bomb proof and after two years and several drops the hinge works perfectly. I'd say you could take quality out of the equation.
The DHD is beter spec'd.
But I really I would have thought the choice comes down to whether or not you want a physical keyboard. As for size, go to a store, check them both out. I find the Z (as with the G1) feels bulkier than the DHD both in hand and pocket.

The dhd looks big and ungainly but the erotic curve on the back means it sits nicely in the hand.
Someone swyped my idea.

5kordez5 said:
hi,
i wanted to ask which phone should i go for, the desire HD or desire Z ... which one is better in performance an has less flaws... the desire z looks weak- for exsample if it would fall on the ground would it break because of the loose hinge, the desire hd - soome people say that the screen is less crisp than the desire Zs and also DHD looks very very big (is it too big) ... so i ask you guys to help me decide which one should i buy .
greetings
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I'd say, if you really need a hardware keyboard, then go for the Desire Z, but if your willing to trade the keyboard for a bigger screen then go for the Desire HD. In terms of performance, desire HD is better:
Desire HD vs Desire Z:
768mb RAM vs 512mb RAM
1ghz snapdragon vs MSM 800mhz
and higher stock scores in quadrant...
I love my desire HD, i dont think its too big and i love the size of the screen. Both are solid in terms of build quality, and as for screen, i think the desire z has better colours and contrast, but the screen is still amazing, but in pixel density i didnt really notice a huge difference.
Only if you need the hardware keyboard then go for the desire z, otherwise desire HD.

I have had both, and I'm in love with the DHD, but the Z is a great phone also... DHD FTW
Sent from my Ginger Garnished HTC Desire HD

Before reviving my DHD I was worried it would be massive in hand and bulky in pocket, I thought the screen size would suit my large hands.
It was the right decision, the phone looks big compared to a iPhone for example until you place them on top of one another and see its only slightly bigger. The screen is great, again you can only see the pixels if you put your face on the screen, from normal distance the screen is crisp and natural.
In pocket its skimmer than my wallet and un-noticeable. Great build quality oh and fast.
Hope this helps.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

thanks for the replies
you helped me a lot
ive made my decision
im going to buy DHD

dhiral.v said:
I'd say, if you really need a hardware keyboard, then go for the Desire Z, but if your willing to trade the keyboard for a bigger screen then go for the Desire HD. In terms of performance, desire HD is better:
Desire HD vs Desire Z:
768mb RAM vs 512mb RAM
1ghz snapdragon vs MSM 800mhz
and higher stock scores in quadrant...
I love my desire HD, i dont think its too big and i love the size of the screen. Both are solid in terms of build quality, and as for screen, i think the desire z has better colours and contrast, but the screen is still amazing, but in pixel density i didnt really notice a huge difference.
Only if you need the hardware keyboard then go for the desire z, otherwise desire HD.
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the desire z uses a 2nd generation snapdragon like us, an although the clock speed is only 800mhz, its easly on par if not better than the 1gig snapdragon in the classic desire

AndroHero said:
the desire z uses a 2nd generation snapdragon like us, an although the clock speed is only 800mhz, its easly on par if not better than the 1gig snapdragon in the classic desire
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Yes it is a 2nd gen snapdragon but it is a different model MSM 7230 800 MHz processor whereas desire HD uses QSD 8255 1ghz chip. Definatley both are better than the classic desire becuase they use a 45nm process vs the 65nm process. The 2nd gen also uses the adreno 205 gpu as apose to the adreno 200 in the 1st gen snapdragon. But the desire HD is said to have a stronger processor than the desire z overall.

dhiral.v said:
Yes it is a 2nd gen snapdragon but it is a different model MSM 7230 800 MHz processor whereas desire HD uses QSD 8255 1ghz chip. Definatley both are better than the classic desire becuase they use a 45nm process vs the 65nm process. The 2nd gen also uses the adreno 205 gpu as apose to the adreno 200 in the 1st gen snapdragon. But the desire HD is said to have a stronger processor than the desire z overall.
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no doubt about it we have the better cpu thats why i got a HD not a Z

Desire HD or Desire Z?

I got a regular Desire right now and I am into buying a new phone. Desire HD or Z? I cannot decide. I can say that I like to watch movies on my phone, watch youtube, browse the internet and stuff like that. I can't say I'm the person who uses sms alot, but it happens when I feel like it.
So now you probably think, just get the HD then. But why? Give me your thoughts please.

Personally, the Z feels cheap
I'd wait a month or so and see what new ones comes out

I just upgraded my desire to a DHD, overall the device is excellent, there is a few minor flaws though like, the battery and sim card covers being badly designed and feel low quality compared to the excellent build quality of the rest of the device.. also if you have an amoled desire like i had, you will really notice a diffrence in the screen. Apart from that its awsome, and the multitouch actually works :-D
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DHD is much better...

justinjustin234 said:
DHD is much better...
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and your opinion is based upon what experiance? If you havnt used both devices you cant say which is better- unless you just think that the screen is what makes the differance, not for all my friend.
I havn't used the DHD or the DZ, however, looking at the development section, I'd much rather go fot the DZ as the drivers the phone has are just unbelievebly amazing- overclock yp to 2.2Ghz, from a 700Mhz at stock! :O Thats more than 3 times the stock clock speed!
Yes the DHD has an amazing screen, shame not Amoled, but you know, the SGS
Im not goin into much detail on the DHD because I simply dont know much about it..
I'd go for the DZ purely because of the drivers and the hardware keyboard, but thats just me.. make up your own opinion based on what you want to do in terms of the development and what you want to use it for- if you dont like the device, you will only have yourself to blame, not others that havent even touched the phone
Hope this helps!

Desire Z is device inferior to both Desire and Desire HD. It has moar internal memory truth be told, but I don't consider it a thing of grave importance since we have a2sd and soon data2sd will be ready for mass usage. CPU and RAM would be a downgrade from the Desire.
DHD on the other hand seems right. It is an upgrade alright, new sense and the device is better, but it has even weaker battery than Desire and the device is HUGE! I have a mate who can't reach the opposite edge of the screen with his thumb while holding the phone in his hand.
I'd say stick with the Desire and wait what new pops out, there is bound to be something soon enough.
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erklat said:
Desire Z is device inferior to both Desire and Desire HD. It has moar internal memory truth be told, but I don't consider it a thing of grave importance since we have a2sd and soon data2sd will be ready for mass usage. CPU and RAM would be a downgrade from the Desire.
DHD on the other hand seems right. It is an upgrade alright, new sense and the device is better, but it has even weaker battery than Desire and the Device is HUGE! I have a mate who can't reach the opposite edge of the screen with his thumb while holding the phone in his hand.
I'd say stick with the Desire and wait what new pops out, there is bound to be something soon enough.
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Desire Z has Sense UI 2.0 too..
And although it does have a slower clock speed at stock- theres always SetCPU- and root for the new update!
The DHD has got a newer version of our Snapdragon 8250 to 8255 which does have new drivers, but overclock only up to 1.5Ghz.. The screen is LCD so yeah, not very efficient

I just hope they implement Sense 2.0 on Desire. I must have that remote lock&wipe thingy
I'm not sure you would want to overclock the descendant of the device who already had poor battery performance, just this comes with moar inferior battery, better CPU(more instructions, could be more efficient?) and 0.6" larger screen.
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To be honest guys, I bought an iPhone 4 just because of the fact that I ain't that much of a poweruser anymore. I never rooted my Desire but still used it regularly with Android IRC, MSN Talk, Rockplayer and stuff like that. So I bought an iPhone 4 just because of it's simplicity and that I don't demand much from my phone. And yes, every Android phone with Froyo is better than the iPhone 4.

DZ weighs a tonne, and the keyboard is a bit dodgy - DHD gets my vote

erklat said:
Desire Z is device inferior to both Desire and Desire HD. It has moar internal memory truth be told, but I don't consider it a thing of grave importance since we have a2sd and soon data2sd will be ready for mass usage. CPU and RAM would be a downgrade from the Desire.
DHD on the other hand seems right. It is an upgrade alright, new sense and the device is better, but it has even weaker battery than Desire and the device is HUGE! I have a mate who can't reach the opposite edge of the screen with his thumb while holding the phone in his hand.
I'd say stick with the Desire and wait what new pops out, there is bound to be something soon enough.
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The information here is so wrong. Im using a G2 the American version of the Desire Z. CPU is a upgrade from the Desire, Desire uses a first generation Snapdragon and the Desire Z uses the second generation Snapdragon CPU. Clock speed doesnt matter here, I can tell you my device keeps up or even surpasses the Desire HD when clocked in the same range (its basically a underclocked version of the CPU in the Desire HD). You clock a Desire Z to 1ghz and Im pretty sure it will keep up with a stock Desire HD and benchmark in the same range. And the difference between 576MB ram in the Desire and 512mb in the Desire Z will not make a difference. Im not sure what GPU the Desire uses but the Desire Z uses the same GPU found in the Desire HD, the new Adreno 205.
Desire Z and HD are a superior device compared to the Desire, besides arguably the screen. Ill give the edge slightly to the Desire HD over the Desire Z but performance wise they are in the same range.

Basically you're right, it slipped my attention that z packs second gen too. But when it comes to memory you in so much fail since it will not make much difference in inconsistent benchmarks your statements rely on, but in day to day usage, moar memory, or even better, the lack of it will be felt badly.
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erklat said:
Basically you're right, it slipped my attention that z packs second gen too. But when it comes to memory you in so much fail since it will not make much difference in inconsistent benchmarks your statements rely on, but in day to day usage, moar memory, or even better, the lack of it will be felt badly.
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The RAM size would probably make a difference between the Desire HD and Desire Z but not the Desire Z and Desire. The difference is too small to be substantial in day to day use. I can tell you from day to day usage I have no slowness, lag, or problems with my G2. Go read any review on the Desire Z, they always mention how fast the device is and that is stock. Its probably aided by how efficient the second generation Snapdragon really is and utilizes the ram..

HTC Desire. Still the best around?

With all the new versions of the Desire becoming available is the original Desire still the best?
I love my desire and I've had it for about 10 months or so. The wife's contract is due for renewal soon and she does seems to like my HTC desire.
It would be her first smart phone.
I'm very pleased with mine. I am currently running an older LeeDroid ROM (Soon to be upgraded with his latest to be released version).
Would the original Desire still cut the mustard for the next 18 months or so?

Desire has been around for around 1 Year and till today it is one of the top phones. I own a Desire myself and have to say it's a great phone till today.
There's quite alot of phones coming out but nothing amazing has come out yet.
Not many people like the new Desire S because it's not that different from the standard Desire.Just a tiny bit different in memory.
Desire HD is quite big and battery life is appaling.
Desire Z quite heavy.
All the new versions aren't that amazing that would make me jump to them instead of staying with my Original Desire.
I've heard good things about the samsung galaxy S 2 which is coming out in March.If you want to consider that.

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There's quite alot of phones coming out but nothing amazing has come out yet.
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True that - I was expecting dual-core HTCs early this year.
The way I see it, the Desire would probably get left behind by HTC in the following 3 or 4 months (right after we get the official Gingerbread in April) to make room for their newer (dual-core?) models. After that? Well, it's up to us to keep it "alive and kicking" with new ROMs and crazy experimental stuff.

I think for new people the Desire S is probably a good choice... enough internal memory and a good size.
I think this is the point of the S... to be something to bring new people in. I love the desire original and wouldn't upgrade to an S
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I think it is one of the best phones around still around.
I like the Desire S, think it looks quite nice, but not enough internal differences to justify an upgrade just yet.
I don't really like the Desire HD. Much too large to use with just one hand. Desire Z is a bit heavy, but I guess it caters for the people who prefer a physical keyboard.
I've still got about 14 months left with my Desire, so nearly 18 months, and I'm more than sure it'll be just fine for that amount of time.

what phone does your wife have at the moment?
I assume not a Desire - Desire / Desire S would make sense unless she wanted a bigger screen (Desire HD)
for me - like Jigswa said - the DHD is too big personally...
Oh also - unless you want rooting and custom roms and stuff - a DS would make sense (over the Desire Original) if you can hold out for it...
The only reason I say it is because its likely to be around for longer than the Desire original from an official capacity...

Lothaen said:
what phone does your wife have at the moment?
I assume not a Desire - Desire / Desire S would make sense unless she wanted a bigger screen (Desire HD)
for me - like Jigswa said - the DHD is too big personally...
Oh also - unless you want rooting and custom roms and stuff - a DS would make sense (over the Desire Original) if you can hold out for it...
The only reason I say it is because its likely to be around for longer than the Desire original from an official capacity...
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She's currently got a Nokia 6700 I think. Nothing fancy. But with her love of Facebook and Angry Birds she want's to now get a smart phone. Oh and something she can use for mobile broadband i.e. tethering.
A colleague of mine has just got a Galaxy S and to me it seemed a bit lightweight and felt plasticy.
I'm, trying to get her a decent 18 month contract. I've seen a few good little deals.
She probably won't want exactly the same phone as me. So maybe a Desire S would be the better option.

Had 2 iPhones before finally taking the plunge into Android. Had my eye on the Desire for awhile and thank god I finally bought it. Running the Oxygen Gingerbread rom ATM.. easiest thing in the world to get running. Had it for about 8 months now too but I won't be upgrading atleast until dual-core htc's.

I know exactly where you are coming from with the Galaxy S feeling light and plasticy - the Desire feels more substantial - as long as you don't want a super light phone!
Also I felt the UI was clunky and too iPhone-esque
the DHD felt heavier than the Desire too.
Desire S will fix any issues with installing stuff to the phone too by having the same storage space as the DHD - it will have Gingerbread out the box, and a nice clean Sense UI win win all round.
Desire S seems a perfect phone for people who don't have Android already IMO!

Apart from weak GPU, weak multi-touch in games, and lack of native DIVX support, I think Desire is still a good phone if those are not important too you. The battery and the internal memory are not issues for me anymore with custom ROMS and HBOOT.

HTC Desire Is 5x better then S(boottime, apps launchtime..so many bugs) i realy like my Desire Using 8 months
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yaqub1 said:
Not many people like the new Desire S because it's not that different from the standard Desire.Just a tiny bit different in memory.
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It is simply amazing how many people claim this, someone would get under impression it is true...
Desire S has moar internal memory, moar ram, packs 2nd generation Qualcomm cpus which rectify the first gen shortcomings, and on top of that, has better battery. Although it is not in the upgrade path for the original Desire owners, it is an upgrade nevertheless and excellent choice for the new users. You are trashing a device with superb specifications b4 it even went retail.
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I agree, a colleague of mine has it. My fist is of enough size to comfortably use the biggest mices, yet I can't reach the opposite end of the screen with my thumb
Battery is roughly equal to the original Desire, both devices out of the box.
The biggest issue in my opinion is that they stuffed equal resolution on 0.6" bigger screen. Greater dot pitch usually means lower quality, I haven't used it enough to be 100% sure though.
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The original Desire still has a lot of processing grunt compared to newer phones. Nothing is really better than it so to speak, a few phones are better at some things and worse at other but generally it's pretty level and just comes down to prefferance on a few features.
It'll be a sad day when I do retire my Desire its served me well so far and has at least a year left in it.
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Using my desire over 10 months now. I'm still satisfied with it's performance.
It 's my first htc phone.
I've had some doubts about build quality before, because that was told to me.
I can say that i'm suprised. Beeing always in my pocket without case or screen protection, it is still looking like new.
It is still fast en reliable.
If i would by a new phone, would be desire again or maybe thinking about desire S.

my fist android
From a long line of old symbian nokias i finally decided to make a hole in my budget and to get a new phone. As i was keeping a close eye on Android and the HTC Desire for some time i got that phone.
It was a very good phone with it's stock froyo, and know it's an excellent phone with the Oxygen rom.
As some of the other members say, i do not see any good reason to upgrade maybe until dual-core HTC's come out.

The normal Desire is still up-to-date. But when the Desire S will be out there in the wild it will be the better one. Still that quite compact design, whithout the week points the original archives (internal mem, multitouch).
The cost-benefit analysis will show up that the older Desire will still be ok for a long time even bought new.

I bought my desire 3 months ago, and the only thing that annoys me is the 2-point touchscreen... Multi-touch is a must to a device like this but we can't have everything so apart from that is the best phone i've ever had ! Desire S is cool but in my opinion at the moment we're between a generation change so next stop is dual core, and desire s is single core. I will change my phone next year probably to a htc dual-core that will be announced this year.
My good old desire never lets me down !

I agree with everyone here. It has been an amazing phone. Its handled mass rom fllashhing and crazy overclocking and its handled it brilliantly. Had no problems with it at all. Rather have this than a Nexus, but I would like a DHD because the bigger screen.
I got a Galaxy Tab 4 months ago and since then my Desire has been neglected as it doesn't compete with the Tab. Recently got back into using it and I've realised why I fell in love with it.
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I suggest you stick around with the HTC Desire till the end of the year or whenver Dual Core phones are released. The new models don't offer much of an advantage and I heard the HTC Desire HD has worst voice quality sound than the Desire....... The voice quality sound on the Desire is pretty terrible so I don't know how HTC managed to make it even worst with the Desire HD.

hopefully it will still work
I am not one for changing my phone when something new comes out and unless something breaks it will have to last me 2 years. The worry I have is will the microusb connecter last that long. Supposedly is it designed for up to 10,000 cycles of insertion but my niece has some sort of nokia with this connecter and its a struggle after 14 months to get it to charge (I have had to give her my htc lead and charger as it is the only one that works).
I don't like capitative keys, I had the ipod that had them and it was god awful to use , too sensitive. So the desire s is a step back from my pov
The desire is a nice phone and does me very well thanks

[Q]Is it worth buying Desire now?

Ok, so, i sold my SGS because it was boring and i wanted to buy Desire because it has a LOT of custom ROMs and it has Sense UI.
What are the main disadvantages of this phone.
Or i should save some more money for DHD?
Desire cost 220€ and DHD 330€...
What should i do?

Main disadvantages is definitely low memory(512mb) and lack of real multitouch.
It's still a great phone when taking the price into the equation.

mortenmhp said:
Main disadvantages is definitely low memory(512mb) and lack of real multitouch.
It's still a great phone when taking the price into the equation.
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Real multitouch? Can you explain it? I dont understand...
EDIT: oh, i saw a video on a youtube...this sucks :S

You may as well get the Desire S really.
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Custom ROMs with Data2SD or A2SD+ will solve the memory problem of the Desire.
The DHD, in my opinion, is an inferior product in that it doesn't offer much more than the Desire does, and even has a smaller battery while sporting a larger LCD display.
You should just get the Desire S, IMHO.

for me.. desire still relevant and worth to buy since the new phone still using single core processor. a lot of customization is make desire very useful in the future because of the development of desire custom rom is still in progress.

Desire is almost 2 years old now. Its great but check newer Desire S.

ksavai said:
Desire is almost 2 years old now. Its great but check newer Desire S.
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I think it released in 2010.

Personally, I love the Desire line. Even the basic provides just about everything you need. Completely customized if you wish to root and flash ROMS. Not to mention, it is probably still one of the top selling phones.
As with processor, who needs dual core? Hardly any apps for it. If you need more speed, you can overclock it. (like me)
As with memory, as previously stated, when you customize it, you can partition and move apps to the SD card.
If you can get it for a good price, I'd go for it. In fact, I'm thinking of getting another for my wife. Besides, the basic design for HTC hasn't changed much.
Not to mention, Desire forums have the best support.

Choose wisely!