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Worth getting a WP7 ?

Hello with the the new updates is the phone now worth considering ?
Currently I am using a desire HD
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intrancer said:
Hello with the the new updates is the phone now worth considering ?
Currently I am using a desire HD
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I would personally wait for Nokia WP7, Thats when you'll see some good hardware / camera etc...

I bought mine two weeks ago. It is not perfect, i'll not lie. But it is the OS that I like most (I have iPhone 4 and Droid too). Android is laggy, even with overclock, and it feels.. like a beta. Worse, Alfa version. Everything is smooth and pretty in WP7.
I was willing to wait for Nokia devices, but i read that Nokia will only release one phone this year. And seriously, I don't trust Nokia. I don't want to buy Nokia's test phone, and I don't want to wait until next year.
Just buy it already, and join us

mikeeam said:
I bought mine two weeks ago. It is not perfect, i'll not lie. But it is the OS that I like most (I have iPhone 4 and Droid too). Android is laggy, even with overclock, and it feels.. like a beta. Worse, Alfa version. Everything is smooth and pretty in WP7.
I was willing to wait for Nokia devices, but i read that Nokia will only release one phone this year. And seriously, I don't trust Nokia. I don't want to buy Nokia's test phone, and I don't want to wait until next year.
Just buy it already, and join us
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For 3 iterations, I've always said android feels incomplete. Even on the tablet side, android feels very incomplete and I guess this has made OEMs feel like they can do what they will to cover android's shortcomings - specifically in their management of OS, fragmentation, and acceleration.
The iphone felt finished to me - even if I didn't like the iphone platform at all. Everything just worked and ran quite effectively. It was cohesive and central when it was released.
What I enjoy about windows phone is that it carries the cohesion of apple, and totally ramps it up full blast making it an incredible platform to code on, experience, and use on a daily basis.
I do miss flashing custom roms for one reason - I HAVE A DELL VENUE PRO and so far its one of the most closed wp7 devices on the market! Period! But even then, the only thing I want is root access to the registry. Not so much optimize much because the os is damn good as is.
Are there limits to windows phone 7? Sure all platforms have limits. But I think in time windows phone will definitely be a household name. All it really needs is good advertising at this point.

My biggest issue with WP7 right now is not the missing featurs, but rather the lack of quality hardware. That having been said, the Samsung Focus is very nice. It takes amazing pictures. The screen is big and beautiful. It is sleek, and has long battery life. My only complaint is how slick the plastic is. Would have been nice to have a more rubbery texture to it or something.

Like every OS WP7 has its cons and pro's but to me it's just the experience as a whole that stands out to the rest. I'd certainly recommend a WP7 device to everyone who wants to buy a smartphone. Certainly the one's who owned an Android device before like myself.

I'm happy with my Trophy. I love the hardware. Have a nice grip, and an awesome screen. Not too large, nor too small. It's just the perfect size to me.
The plastic doesn't feel cheap, and doesnt look cheap. I recommend. And it is worth a look.

Thanks for feedback ... I use the following apps remote desktop, facebook,Twitter,slingplayer,navigation and need a good quality camera .... I'm looking at the apps market to see if I can find any apps like this..... I was disappointed to see no flash for browser....
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LG Quantum == great hardware
I love my LG Quantum.
I need a keyboard for business emails. I sometimes write mails on it longer than I do at my desktop computer. Try that on the on-screen keyboard.
But, if I just have a few words, the on-screen is fine. And the word-correct is amazing on WP7.
Friends at work have Samsung Focus and love it. Most people DON'T need over 8GB of flash, because with ZunePass, one can stream what one doesn't have, and then just download what they want to keep.
WP7 really is GREAT STUFF, and getting better with time.
Enjoy Windows Phone 7!
-e

intrancer said:
Hello with the the new updates is the phone now worth considering ?
Currently I am using a desire HD
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this is a really silly question, ppl who like android will tell you no and ppl who like wp7 will ask you to move....
this is really very personal... its like you asking ppl what car should i buy
you should buy if you like wp7 not because ppl think u should buy...

best thing you can do is go play with different devices in the store and see which one you like better.
WP7= fast and smooth, works out of the box great.
Android= very versatile, but does have some lag and might require some tweaking to get the best out of the device.
Just depends on what you are looking for.

intrancer said:
Hello with the the new updates is the phone now worth considering ?
Currently I am using a desire HD
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+1 on this. I read an article in another post and it has me holding off a WP7 purchase for now. 5-reinstal limit on paid apps! Hell no! It aint worth it if that's how it's gonna be. At least being a smartphone it will have all the common features on phones these days, but the 5-limit will kill it for me.

Dam a limit ... well well..... that's no to wp7 .. thanks for letting me know about that
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truffle1234 said:
this is a really silly question, ppl who like android will tell you no and ppl who like wp7 will ask you to move....
this is really very personal... its like you asking ppl what car should i buy, thats total bull ****...
you should buy if you like wp7 not because ppl think u should buy...
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I don't think its a silly question... so far people that have had both have given me pros and cons those who have moved to wp7 have shared what they miss .... I am asking for owners experience of the phone... not if they like the color of the device...
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FriedWP7 said:
+1 on this. I read an article in another post and it has me holding off a WP7 purchase for now. 5-reinstal limit on paid apps! Hell no! It aint worth it if that's how it's gonna be. At least being a smartphone it will have all the common features on phones these days, but the 5-limit will kill it for me.
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To be clear - there is NO 5-reinstall limit.
The limit is 5 devices.
Why can't people get this simple facts right?

digime said:
To be clear - there is NO 5-reinstall limit.
The limit is 5 devices.
Why can't people get this simple facts right?
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Don't look at me dude. The article was official and from a microsoft answer guy. Don't hate on ppl who believe what it says. Did you read the word in that screenshot? ****! I'm a big time gamer and **** things up all the time. I might have to reinstal my games a bunch of times. Pay once dude. No more.

FriedWP7 said:
Don't look at me dude. The article was official and from a microsoft answer guy. Don't hate on ppl who believe what it says. Did you read the word in that screenshot? ****! I'm a big time gamer and **** things up all the time. I might have to reinstal my games a bunch of times. Pay once dude. No more.
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What are you talking about?
I'm not hating on you. I'm telling you dumbass tech sites have once again failed to check their facts. You can reinstall as many times as you like.

digime said:
What are you talking about?
I'm not hating on you. I'm telling you dumbass tech sites have once again failed to check their facts. You can reinstall as many times as you like.
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No offense dude but until I see oficial word from microsoft that it aint true, I'm gonna hold back.

Well for me - yes and no.
If you don't care so much about features than WP7 is in many ways great.
But for me after 3 months of extensive usage - I start to have enough of stupid limitations. In March we will get only c&p and no other functionality enhancements.
I like how this WP7 behaves but it's totally unfinished product.
I rather accept a little choppiness but have all the features than use super fluent skeleton.
BTW this WP7 super fluent behaviour is a little myth. I see little freezes all the time.
More I think of it I see myself getting Android device soon. I don't care if it is "choppy", what is kinda BS TBH. I saw many current strong Androids which are smooth.
And they have oh so much more to offer right now. Sad but true.
I can't even buy apps and nobody knows WHEN this will be possible. And so on.
It will take a year or more to bring WP7 to desired state and I think some of the very useful features will not be supported ever.
Sorry for the rant but after the joy of using something nice has worn off, I just more and more miss features which are cruical for me and it's more than one thing.
I imagine getting SE Arc....
But I still didn't "give up". WP7 is still a great foundation.

intrancer said:
Hello with the the new updates is the phone now worth considering ?
Currently I am using a desire HD
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If you've been using Android especially with Sense I don't see how you could ever switch to WP7. I have an HTC Incredible and I bought an HTC Surround to play around with a week ago. The Surround has already been sold. After using Android for years WP7 seems like a joke right now. It is almost closer to a feature phone than a smartphone. I was going to keep it just to use as a Zune and for the Xbox Live features. My original Zune 30GB is 5 times the music player a WP7 phone is. The Xbox live stuff...I'm playing a game, let me switch to something else for a second...Go back to the game, wait loading? Oh yeah, no multitasking.
Maybe if you were coming from a feature phone WP7 might seem nice, but it is far behind Blackberry, Android, and iOS. Even my Samsung Blackjack with WM 6.1 was far more usable. It sucks because I am a Microsoft fanboy. I love my Xbox, my Zune, Windows 7, etc. But WP7 is pretty bad I thought.

A guy is porting Android to HTC7...

did you see this video from a guy that is porting android to the HTC7? its booting ok but almost anything works...
HAHA ITS NOT TRUT ITS A APRIL JOKE!!!! ITS DREAM
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Worst April Fool's joke ever. You should have talked about the upcoming collaboration between Apple and Microsoft for iTunes-Zune combination player, iTunZ.

don't quit your day job.
iZunes ftw.

No one wants a power-hungry crap OS on a phone that already has poor battery life.

z33dev33l said:
No one wants a power-hungry crap OS on a phone that already has poor battery life.
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I guess that's why they're trying to port Android to it.

orangekid said:
I guess that's why they're trying to port Android to it.
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so it lasts less ?

z33dev33l said:
No one wants a power-hungry crap OS on a phone that already has poor battery life.
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Doesn't seem like anybody wants the feature-lite successor to the Kin, either. Otherwise, why would MS be hiding WP7 sales figures?

Windows Phone 7
Windows Phone 7 is for smart people...

greenbrd said:
Doesn't seem like anybody wants the feature-lite successor to the Kin, either. Otherwise, why would MS be hiding WP7 sales figures?
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Because they've been admittedly poorer than they assumed they would have and because the general populace wants an iphone or something that can resemble an iphone because quite frankly they're all sheep.

The joke's on you
http://wmpoweruser.com/rumor-hd7-running-android/

rhn said:
The joke's on you
http://wmpoweruser.com/rumor-hd7-running-android/
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This seems pretty real. At first i thaught it was a HD7 Chinese replica phone,
but in the top right corner it clearly says T-Mobile. I did google translate on
the page, and it says that it is a Chinese cooked ROM. I've read somewhere else
that the cellular functions (and multimedia = camera, music, videos) might not be
working yet, but judging by the current progress, it probably won't be long until
this project gets completed.

It's still pointless to turn ur WP7 power phone into a medicore Android phone with worse batterylife, except just for fun.
The guy did this because in mainland China HD7 is cheaper than HD2.

Well, ok, i somehow agree, but i still think that having an option to do such a thing
(out of fun or whatever ones wishes may be) is not bad at all
Therefore i give thumbs up for this project!
P.S.
If you ask me, I would rather prefer a port to WM 6.1 or 6.5...

Besides the really bad joke-telling skills of the OP (word choice and spelling can make or break a joke), it's obvious Android on WP7 will happen eventually.
I don't know WHY -- what's the point? -- but it will.

WP7 sparking the interest of people around me.

Well I have been behind Windows for a very long time, I guess you can call me a fanboy. But Windows really appeals to me and my needs. Being an advocate for Windows I always talk to folks about WP7, personally I havent seen anybody in person besides myself with a WP7 device.
But a guy at my job went from an Iphone 3gs to a Droid x in which he hates. He wants to go back to iphone but of course i suggested WP7 and he was really interested. He thought it was only a few carriers but I had to inform him that all major carriers have WP7. My thought on this at Carriers arent promoting WP7 like I think they should, when I see these Carriers they are flooded with tons of Android devices, its like WP7 is like an after thought.
Another guy I work with has had every Iphone and swears by it but I defend Wp7 of course and he even agreed that he likes WP7 and seemed kinda worried that it may be better, but he also seemed interested in WP7, but everybody that complains about WP7 always goes back to Windows mobile and the App marketplace for WP7. I tell them dont worry it will soon catch up and surpass. WP7 is here to stay and overcome and take its original place back from these imitators. Windows is the originators of this game and they have to take this thing back over and surpass the competition.
But overall I love my DVP and WP7 its everything I want plus more. My wife is salty that my phone actually does what I want it to do instead of constant lock ups and device not working properly like her EVO. Nice device but not very appealing to me.
I know I sound like im rambling but I just had to state a few things to the WP7 public

I agree with what your saying regarding carriers not promoting windows phone 7 as i recently purchased a HD7 and upon doing so i went around to many Australian retailers and i was met with a lack if any knowledge about the windows phone operating system.
I think this can in part explains windows phone 7 sales that and there are no attractive windows phone 7 handsets in my opinion. The HD7 has a terrible screen and a useless and ugly kick stand and is very heavy. Aesthetics and industry design play a massive role in consumer behaviour, apple understands this and its part of the reason why apple really took off in the last few years. I think with the Nokia agreement the mango update and the potential of Samsung releasing a windows phone 7 device that looks like galaxy S 2 windows phone has the potential to flourish.

Yeah the WP7 UI really is great. Until you get bored with it looking the same, then there's nothing you can do except change phones.

leftspeaker2000 said:
I agree with what your saying regarding carriers not promoting windows phone 7 as i recently purchased a HD7 and upon doing so i went around to many Australian retailers and i was met with a lack if any knowledge about the windows phone operating system.
I think this can in part explains windows phone 7 sales that and there are no attractive windows phone 7 handsets in my opinion. The HD7 has a terrible screen and a useless and ugly kick stand and is very heavy. Aesthetics and industry design play a massive role in consumer behaviour, apple understands this and its part of the reason why apple really took off in the last few years. I think with the Nokia agreement the mango update and the potential of Samsung releasing a windows phone 7 device that looks like galaxy S 2 windows phone has the potential to flourish.
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Whether the design of a device matches ones personal taste or not is a question of what one likes or dislikes. I for one have an HD7 and love it. I don't share your opinion concerning the screen, weight or even the kickstand.
theo80 said:
Yeah the WP7 UI really is great. Until you get bored with it looking the same, then there's nothing you can do except change phones.
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What about iOS? Still looking the same after all those years. Nothing but a boring wall of icons. Still lots of people love it just the way it is. So it seems that not too many people really care about the customizability of a handset.

As the post above says.
If the UI works, why change it? Android's UI being so flexible just makes it a complete nightmare to use, and most people are never going to bother to put the time in to find the one widget that works out of the 1,000 that do the same job.
Everything comes back to: Users just want to be able to do the stuff they need to. If they can do that by default, no customisation is necessary.
theo80 said:
Yeah the WP7 UI really is great. Until you get bored with it looking the same, then there's nothing you can do except change phones.
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andrewkeith5 said:
As the post above says.
If the UI works, why change it? Android's UI being so flexible just makes it a complete nightmare to use, and most people are never going to bother to put the time in to find the one widget that works out of the 1,000 that do the same job.
Everything comes back to: Users just want to be able to do the stuff they need to. If they can do that by default, no customisation is necessary.
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I think many people don't care so much about the UI.
My brain works this way: I like logic but I also need something to entertain my eye. That is why iOS works for people: it is always the same BUT it has tons of eye candy and doesn't get boring really.
WP7 is brilliant but for many users just too dreadful.
Android may be ugly, luckily I use SE which makes it look stunning and classy.

937dytboi said:
Well I have been behind Windows for a very long time, I advocate, I love my DVP and WP7 its everything I want plus my wife is salty, im rambling but I just had to state a few things to the public
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condensed, for levity.

doministry said:
I think many people don't care so much about the UI.
My brain works this way: I like logic but I also need something to entertain my eye. That is why iOS works for people: it is always the same BUT it has tons of eye candy and doesn't get boring really.
WP7 is brilliant but for many users just too dreadful.
Android may be ugly, luckily I use SE which makes it look stunning and classy.
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Funny I have opposite reaction. When I had my Iphone 3g and 3gs all I kept thinking of was Windows for Workgroups 3.11. Was going to get an Android to be a little different, saw that MS was changing. At first thought it was weird but after seeing a video I knew it was what I wanted. I am in the tech industry and have to deal with all the phones at work. Amazing how hard a time people have trying to get exchange email on their iphones, androids, and blackberries. For us who understand it is really easy

I was that close to purchasing an Android device last fall when I discovered WP7, although I wound up getting an android device free from T-mobile. But, it was indeed the UI that struck me. Actually, I don't even recall my exact moment of, "Hey. I want that."
But, the more I researched the more I knew that was where I was going, and the farther I moved away from the idea of Android. WP7 was new, fresh, and artfully done.
When I'm using my phone every single response I've ever gotten has been of the, "Wow! That's nice?! What kinda phone is that?" variety. Or, others saying, "Wow! That's that Windows Phone, huh?" It's the UI that gets them all.
Hell, I've even gotten T-mo and Verizon reps that gave me a, "Now that's cool!" after dogging the phone (WM) and then having an actual product demonstrated to them.
So, I would say that the vast majority of people acknowledge looks first. Whether it's a nice looking person, car, house, piece of jewelry, phone user interface, or what have you, our initial reactions are superficial. We gravitate towards things which are pleasing to the eye and WP7 is that for many people.
However, once we get past the "pretty" aspect it becomes about what lies underneath that appealing exterior. And, WP7 still holds up for the vast majority of folks who just want something that works and accomplishes everyday tasks with few headaches and/or hiccups.
I've already converted 7 people over to WP7 because of my phone. Might be 8. I'm not sure if my brother was gonna get one anyway or not.
But, agreed on the UI mention which of course leads to a great UX.

doministry said:
I think many people don't care so much about the UI.
My brain works this way: I like logic but I also need something to entertain my eye. That is why iOS works for people: it is always the same BUT it has tons of eye candy and doesn't get boring really.
WP7 is brilliant but for many users just too dreadful.
Android may be ugly, luckily I use SE which makes it look stunning and classy.
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wow that is the most illogical reasoning I have ever heard. So you are saying that iOS which is basically just a bluish static grid of icons and some glassy effects has tons of eye candy compared to WP7 with its elegant and yet lively interface. Just compare Apps such as MTV news, USA Today, Fox News with their iOS counterparts. And these are just v1 apps which will improve as devs get more comfortable with the design aesthetics of WP.

doministry said:
I think many people don't care so much about the UI.
My brain works this way: I like logic but I also need something to entertain my eye. That is why iOS works for people: it is always the same BUT it has tons of eye candy and doesn't get boring really.
WP7 is brilliant but for many users just too dreadful.
Android may be ugly, luckily I use SE which makes it look stunning and classy.
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I prefer the WP7 interface over the iPhone. I actually prefer my WM6.5 interface over the iPhone and WP7. At least with the WM6.5, you can change wallpapers.

dkp1977 said:
Whether the design of a device matches ones personal taste or not is a question of what one likes or dislikes. I for one have an HD7 and love it. I don't share your opinion concerning the screen, weight or even the kickstand.
What about iOS? Still looking the same after all those years. Nothing but a boring wall of icons. Still lots of people love it just the way it is. So it seems that not too many people really care about the customizability of a handset.
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They have Cydia that's why. Full customization. Look up Dreamboard. I mean you don't have to set anything up and bam your phone looks like HTC Sense, WP7, a Microsoft webpage, and much more. It's theming brought to it's utmost potential. Of course there are bugs since it is still in the early 1.xx stages. Installous.
I love my SGS II, 7 Launcher. Hehehe..
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Both iOS and Android are cool but can be boring. You may theme it to "look" like WP7 interface BUT you still miss the big deals like integration, unified apps, and live tiles.

downloaderintruder said:
BUT you still miss the big deals like integration, unified apps, and live tiles.
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and also perfect fludity ...

I have used the iPhone for a long time. And now have used android for a long time. Love flashing new roms and customizing. Hated windows mobile. To many menus and laggy. But I played with the HTC arrive, and loved it! Ever time I go to the sprint store, I go straight to it. When the new super phones come out with mango, I may have to switch.
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Any Android sucks logo's I can use as forum signature?

Hey guys, I've been looking everywhere on XDA and on bing but cannot find any forum icons or signatures to use. I'm looking for broken android robots or something to show that I can't stand android. Since this is the WP forum, obviously I'm all for WP and would love to see a windows logo eating the android robot or something. I don't care I just want to find something to represent my opinion on this. If anyone has any suggestions I would very much appreciate it. I've been searching all yesterday, late last night and all today but still have found nothing.
Please let me know if you have any suggestions, thankyou very much.

Doubt it, most of us aren't so petty.

Here's a good one
http://www.technorotic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/pipi-android_t.jpg
Here's another

Lol. Gtfo this Forum. Don't talk sh... like that on a forum which is especially designed for android.
Galaxy GT-I9000 spoke

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Lol. Gtfo this Forum. Don't talk sh... like that on a forum which is especially designed for android.
Galaxy GT-I9000 spoke
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What forum are you talking about? Xda was originally a Windows Mobile forum (PocketPC) http://web.archive.org/web/20060508163548/http://forum.xda-developers.com/front_page.php

I like android too..
I don't understand being a fanboy.
The only os I don't personally like is ios, because it's boring imo.

jessenic said:
What forum are you talking about? Xda was originally a Windows Mobile forum (PocketPC) http://web.archive.org/web/20060508163548/http://forum.xda-developers.com/front_page.php
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In a sense, Android is everything WinMo could have and should have been. Android is like a perfected and fully supported WinMo. Where MS was lazy or lackluster about fostering WinMo, Google is doing the opposite with Android.

MartyLK said:
In a sense, Android is everything WinMo could have and should have been. Android is like a perfected and fully supported WinMo. Where MS was lazy or lackluster about fostering WinMo, Google is doing the opposite with Android.
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I disagree. Microsoft naturally progressed into quality. Winmo made a great PDA but it, like android, simply didn't make for a good phone. Wp7 chose user experience. Android chose pocket PC.

MartyLK said:
In a sense, Android is everything WinMo could have and should have been. Android is like a perfected and fully supported WinMo. Where MS was lazy or lackluster about fostering WinMo, Google is doing the opposite with Android.
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While true, I have to admit that I have never seen a WM/PocketPC device. First mobile windows OS I saw was WP7 in a local store, loved it and bought the omnia 7. The salesman tried to tell me that android is better and tried to sell me a galaxy s, almost bought it but then it crashed while he was showing it... Haven't regretted choosing wp7 over android. I know some android fanboys who have jumped over to wp7 after seeing my omnia 7...

jessenic said:
While true, I have to admit that I have never seen a WM/PocketPC device. First mobile windows OS I saw was WP7 in a local store, loved it and bought the omnia 7. The salesman tried to tell me that android is better and tried to sell me a galaxy s, almost bought it but then it crashed while he was showing it... Haven't regretted chooesing wp7 over android. I know some android fanboys who have jumped over to wp7 after seeing my omnia 7...
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LOL...I had a similar experience when I took my HTC Inspire to a local AT&T to have them look at a compass issue. The lady serving me owned an Inspire and attempted to install a compass from the market to see if her Inspire would do what mine was doing. She couldn't do it because her Inspire froze up while trying to install a compass and she had to borrow someone else's Inspire.
WP7 is the sweet one, for sure. To me it's a work of art. But I can't wait for MS to get behind it like they did with the XBOX and like Google does with Android. If and when MS does that, the competition will quake and shiver in fear.

Android isn't the problem....it's the certain fandroids that ruin it...

How is google behind android? It's a half-assed ad platform.

z33dev33l said:
How is google behind android? It's a half-assed ad platform.
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if they weren't it wouldn't be developing so quickly..
Ics actually looks awesome imo.
I just like phones, I don't get into the pissing match bs

scoobysnacks said:
if they weren't it wouldn't be developing so quickly..
Ics actually looks awesome imo.
I just like phones, I don't get into the pissing match bs
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Same here. I even still like WinMo. Just wish there was better app support for it.

scoobysnacks said:
if they weren't it wouldn't be developing so quickly..
Ics actually looks awesome imo.
I just like phones, I don't get into the pissing match bs
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nor do I, I don't see it developing quickly. Gingerbread brought little more than a pallet swap, the last truly big update was eclair, and ICS still lags like crazy even on the flagship.

I'm with the others—don't be petty, to each his own, yada yada.
That said, I just had to look for the images anyway.

z33dev33l said:
nor do I, I don't see it developing quickly. Gingerbread brought little more than a pallet swap, the last truly big update was eclair, and ICS still lags like crazy even on the flagship.
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what? No it doesn't...
Obviously you didn't try it.
I don't understand making up bs just to try to make your opinion valid.
Sounds like n8ter...
Ics included hardware acceleration which was a huge step imo

ICS doesnt include hardware acceleration outside of the browser. That was a rumor that originated here on XDA. Compared to the competitors it's downright sluggish

z33dev33l said:
ICS doesnt include hardware acceleration outside of the browser. That was a rumor that originated here on XDA. Compared to the competitors it's downright sluggish
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yes it does..
I dunno where you get your info lol

scoobysnacks said:
yes it does..
I dunno where you get your info lol
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That's cool. Like I say, Google stands behind Android and supports it. People like Steve Woz and that WP7 dude who left for Google know where the progress is being made. Interesting times.

Seems fitting with the Apple v Samsung case.. you'll love this video.

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I hate apple of sh*t!

Great video. I really hope thats not what the new ios is cause thats too lame.
But then again it should be more than enough for google to ban sales of anything using it with the way things are unfortunately happening lately.

I couldn't make it to the end of the video..looking at ios5 put me to sleep!

Apple is pathetic, they can't compete with the software that Android has become so they are trying to limit consumer choice to the almighty (POS) iPhone.

Controvrsy046 said:
Apple is pathetic, they can't compete with the software that Android has become so they are trying to limit consumer choice to the almighty (POS) iPhone.
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It is not a pos, it is a great phone. Android also has some great phones. But the two are great for different reasons. It is a matter of choice, and consumer choice should rule, not litigation.
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Jubomime said:
It is not a pos, it is a great phone. Android also has some great phones. But the two are great for different reasons. It is a matter of choice, and consumer choice should rule, not litigation.
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Choice?
lmfao.
These people are brainwashed.

SocialReject said:
Choice?
lmfao.
These people are brainwashed.
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If you refer to advertising and the great marketing, I agree with you, but Apple became kind of the new Nokia. If someone without a clue of technology asks me what phone they should buy, i hesitate to say Android, because it needs more effort and intelligence to set the phone up... But Nokia failed with their bad developement, so will Apple. Project Glass will whipe out smartphones & Apple

project glass?

Some1withBalls said:
If you refer to advertising and the great marketing, I agree with you, but Apple became kind of the new Nokia. If someone without a clue of technology asks me what phone they should buy, i hesitate to say Android, because it needs more effort and intelligence to set the phone up... But Nokia failed with their bad developement, so will Apple. Project Glass will whipe out smartphones & Apple
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I would have been inclined to agree with you 4 years ago...now, not so much. Android is painfully easy now. In fact, a lot of things are even easier than iOS until Apple steals more "innovations" from Android and Windows Phone for iOS 6.
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- Apple - Innovation through litigation
- Apple iPhones - smartphones for dumb people
- An Apple product is like being at a great buffet but not being allowed to eat much
Some of the stuff I think to myself when I look at my buddy's 4S
Apple makes great products, they innovate and when they don't they compensate with their design, packaging, marketing and branding which is world class, appealing even sexy. Then they start dictating what you can and cannot do with their stuff, after you've paid a premium price for it, and that's where they lose me.

sammy shoulda have shown this video on court

Very nice, gotta love pointing out the obviously copied ideas. Just watch them try to patent the ideas now.

Thanks for sharing this.
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So when will they patent software and method for showing notifications, with a pull down menu from a bar blah blah blah?
Blazing on my Nexus Prime

That's some funny stuff.. I couldn't watch the video because I was trying to catch all the one liners in the text. Lol
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Guiding.God said:
Apple makes great products, they innovate and when they don't they compensate with their design, packaging, marketing and branding which is world class, appealing even sexy. Then they start dictating what you can and cannot do with their stuff, after you've paid a premium price for it, and that's where they lose me.
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Since when?

MikeyMike01 said:
Since when?
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Here's a great example... http://gizmodo.com/5940045/bruce-willis-planning-legal-battle-to-leave-itunes-library-in-his-will
They won't let Bruce Willis Will his iTunes collection to his kids.

Some1withBalls said:
If you refer to advertising and the great marketing, I agree with you, but Apple became kind of the new Nokia. If someone without a clue of technology asks me what phone they should buy, i hesitate to say Android, because it needs more effort and intelligence to set the phone up... But Nokia failed with their bad developement, so will Apple. Project Glass will whipe out smartphones & Apple
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I'd have to disagree on this, My mom had no issues picking up a MyTouch 3g and using it. Only thing she had to get use to was using a touch screen and it took her all of 2 weeks to get use to using a touch screen. She easily setup a password, sync'd her contacts, added music, etc. and that was on android 1.6

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Uuuuh, 2 huge things I can think of off the top of my head.
1. Only allowed to download Apple approved apps from the app store, no side loading.
2. Entire file system is not accessible by the user.
Just these two put up some huge barriers for people who want to do whatever they want with the hardware, and furthers the idea that they only let you do what they want you to do.