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[Q] Soooooo... what are the chances of wm7 coming to our android devices?

The final devices just got announced, devs will probably take a swing at it, AND ive seen some wm7 dumps going around the forum. sooooo... what do you all think? i'd love to have a play with this, just like every other ZOMG-NEW-UI-I-GOTS-TO-HAVE! guy here haha
is there already some work going on?

Zero chance, It would be illegal to do so as the license is sold with the device,

Just for fun?
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I don't want it on my phone... WP7 has the ugliest UI I've ever seen. Some animations and transitions looks cool but other than that it just makes wanna throw up!

im more into it for the social interaction, the way facebook integrates and everything, it looked pretty good in all the demos..

rosebud said:
Zero chance, It would be illegal to do so as the license is sold with the device,
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in that case
let it be done
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aaaaarrggh
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Yeah. Stupid laws... It's no different than someone stealing your car.
I suppose if someone wanted to, they could create a customized launcher and a bunch of other apps that looked like wm7, but I fail to see the point.
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oursoul said:
in that case
let it be done
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please read the forum rules on warez, piracy an also your language ......

who cares about wm7?
m$ is afraid about android...
the only thing that i don't understand is why a wm phone and an android phone have the same prices with similar hardware...
when you buy the phone you pay the licence too... android phones must cost less then a wm phone...
or not?

Icchan said:
when you buy the phone you pay the licence too... android phones must cost less then a wm phone...
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First of all, I believe the phone manufacturers still pay a fee to Google for the GApps.
Secondly, it's all about profit margins - Android is attractive to companies like HTC because they likely make more money per unit than they would if they use WP7.
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Windows Phone 7 Update – Multitasking, IE9, SkyDrive Demo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxeruijggGs
Found from http://www.intomobile.com/2011/02/15/windows-phone-ie9-video/

Maaaaaan.... So sick feel bad for people who don't wanna join the wp7 bandwagon
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Very impressive. Looks to be a major performance update. Can't wait.

ceo4eva said:
Maaaaaan.... So sick feel bad for people who don't wanna join the wp7 bandwagon
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What did I do?
Dizmatic said:
Very impressive. Looks to be a major performance update. Can't wait.
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Yeah looks very slick and with SkyDrive integration only major thing I want now is a better navigation app and direct to outlook sync (no cloud junk).

cool looks great.... faster spped, multi tasking and sky drive support as well...cant wait to see it in action on my hd7...

ceo4eva said:
Maaaaaan.... So sick feel bad for people who don't wanna join the wp7 bandwagon
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i dont get you.... do you know that most of the users dont care about those things will be updated as to them a phone is a phone and as a phone my HD7 is better then any other phone in the market...
if i give my phone to my 80 year old dad he will be able to use it as its simple and easy to use....
i think MS have done a great job in finally creating a simple user friendly mobile OS... and the best of all it do not hang or lag...

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i dont get you.... do you know that most of the users dont care about those things will be updated as to them a phone is a phone and as a phone my HD7 is better then any other phone in the market...
if i give my phone to my 80 year old dad he will be able to use it as its simple and easy to use....
i think MS have done a great job in finally creating a simple user friendly mobile OS... and the best of all it do not hang or lag...
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LOL! I think he's just saying that the update looks sick. And he feels bad for the folks that DONT want to join the wp7 bandwagon. I mean he is using an HD7.

janemanno1 said:
What did I do?
Yeah looks very slick and with SkyDrive integration only major thing I want now is a better navigation app and direct to outlook sync (no cloud junk).
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I actually really like the cloud based services, and there was once a time I hated them. The convenience is just so remarkable that I don't think anything else can come close. I remember a time when I thought the bluetooth sync was the greatest thing that happened to my WinMo device because it took me away from a USB cable... Then I was given an exchange access and my life changed forever lol... I don't think I ever want direct sync again... The cloud has become my home.

wow really?
noone looked further then skydrive? i even skipped this part..
take a look at 3:58 ... when ie9 gets compared to safari
awesooome!
or wait..
legen .... wait for it...

Ya, the video stuff is great with IE9, but it still doesn't do flash.. and that's most of the videos (non youtube) that I want to watch.
Hopefully soon!

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Ya, the video stuff is great with IE9, but it still doesn't do flash.. and that's most of the videos (non youtube) that I want to watch.
Hopefully soon!
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Again, most of you fail to realize that implementing HTML5 and Silverlight are Microsoft projects. Flash on the other hand is an Adobe project, one they would need to code and supply for the OS. As much as I'd like to have it, it isn't a deal breaker to be completely honest, and I hope that HTML5 has caught on a lot more by then... I already read somewhere that Flash 10.2 is coming to our phones 'soon.'

Yeah I think within a year of its initial crippled released WP7 will shape to be a very good mobile os. The signs are good so far but all MS needs to do is relate and communite with their user base better.

Microsoft bought Skype, good news for us !

Well yes, Microsoft did bought skype (read it HERE ) and that means Windows 7 and WP7 get special treatment =)
"It is assumed that the main motive of Microsoft (Ballmer) to buy Skype just for Windows phone 7 Phone Nokia in cooperation with the integration of VOIP services in the system as a competitive option Voice Google and Apple Facetime."

well, 8.705 billion $ is a lot of money for something like skype

It is a lot of money, however you have to assume that it is a fairly profitable company that should pay for itself and in addition bring features to the WP7 platform

ceesheim said:
well, 8.705 billion $ is a lot of money for something like skype
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My sentiments also. To me, Skype is junk and I can't see how MS can make anything good of it.

MartyLK said:
My sentiments also. To me, Skype is junk and I can't see how MS can make anything good of it.
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Can't be that bad if 663 Million people use it.
I think this is great gives microsoft another weapon in their arsenal to use for WP7 & Xbox.
Just think of being able to talk to someone on your wp7 to someone using kinect with the xbox hooked upto their tv etc

Well, well, well. Maybe we'll see a Skypephone that doesn't suck then

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Can't be that bad if 663 Million people use it.
I think this is great gives microsoft another weapon in their arsenal to use for WP7 & Xbox.
Just think of being able to talk to someone on your wp7 to someone using kinect with the xbox hooked upto their tv etc
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I think the acquisition will be perfect for integration with their live services, as well as providing a unified solution to communication

domineus said:
I think the acquisition will be perfect for integration with their live services, as well as providing a unified solution to communication
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I completely agree with you but the price seems crazy. I don't see Microsoft making their money back anytime soon.

i think MS knows what they are doing...
Skeype is a good tool for business ppl to be mobile and still keep the same number..
Skype Pro services are not bad too.
i am not sure how good or bad MS take over of Skype for Android users....
anyway the Windows live will be intigreted in the peoples hub in WP7.5 n and if Skype will be as well then i think it will be great for us as users..

So..... what was wrong with WLM? Doesn't it already do video chat?
Someone please explain? Or is this a way to hold off the competition because Skype is already on just about every OS.

vetvito said:
So..... what was wrong with WLM? Doesn't it already do video chat?
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I don't think video chat is the key thing here.
vetvito said:
Someone please explain? Or is this a way to hold off the competition because Skype is already on just about every OS.
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I can't "explain" it, and nobody seems to be able to make total sense of this acquisition. While individual pieces may be reasonable, the price tag is just outrageous.
I mean, VoIP may be useful, Skype together with WLM will be one big IM network, but there just isn't so much money as to justify the price.
If Google got Skype that would probably be bad for MS's "cloud" push, Google is already to big in online. But still, 8.5bn? In cash? Jesus...

vangrieg said:
I don't think video chat is the key thing here.
If Google got Skype that would probably be bad for MS's "cloud" push, Google is already to big in online. But still, 8.5bn? In cash? Jesus...
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Why would Google want Skype? They have Google Voice.

nowei said:
Why would Google want Skype? They have Google Voice.
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So what? Microsoft has Lync, that didn't stop them. Hardly anyone uses these things though. And Google was negotiating with Skype, too.

zamana said:
8.5 billion is peanuts to Google. Why didn't they bought Skype? Is Google losing the plot?
Google, open your eyes!!!
Now Microsoft will infest Skype with their junk MSN...
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So what? This only makes currently crippled Skype better.

Think about it... Microsoft just bought a **** ton of patents relating to VOIP. It's pre-emptively striking.
I like it, I use WLM and Skype. One less service when they roll them up together

600k new members signing up a day is why they bought Skype.
A good deal that fits nicely into their portfolio and with $50b spare cash reserves why not.

Could have spent that $8 billion and got Mango out faster

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Could have spent that $8 billion and got Mango out faster
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Why? WP7 is not their main focus, it is a by-product. Kinnect sells like cupcakes, so Xbox+kinnect+Skype is the priority.

efjay said:
Could have spent that $8 billion and got Mango out faster
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Mango is in beta phase or will be in beta soon, everything after is to guarentee the quality.

efjay said:
Could have spent that $8 billion and got Mango out faster
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LOL....no lie. Know what makes sense of this deal? Ballmer. Period. Wild hair, woke up on the wrong side of the bed, paranoia that Google is actually a single person who replaces all his furniture with exact replicas while he sleeps...who the hell knows why Ballmer does some of the retarded stuff he does. But it only makes sense when you consider it not as a Microsoft deal but as a Ballmer deal. I'll be interested in seeing how quickly Microsoft turns Skype into the Visual FoxPro of VOIP. Visual what? Yeah, exactly.

Awfully quet here

Maybe a god side or not? =) Maybe WP7 is so good XDA dont haver the same relevance, maybe there isnt any users left?
.... hey, thats a lot of maybe´s =)

Really there's nothing to talk about until Mango and the new devices that will bring. Everything has been said already, the same arguments have exploded again and again. It's just a waiting game now.

I used to be more active in the Captivate section ... But it was because there was always the hope that something would come out that would fix the lag, GPS etc. Fortunately with my Focus, everything just works. It's kinda nice haha.

Yep. Patiently waiting for Mango.

Nice to not be alone being satisfied with WP7. I am only waiting for my carrier contract to end so i can switch and let the call issuess drop. I love my Omnia 7, i really do, its the best phone i have to date (Used HD2 and was happy then). But the Edge problem with Samsung Phones in generall is a annoyence.
Still i come here to hope for some small things. I still want my flashligt 8Camera led) app like HTC without hacking.
Used to hack phones a lot before, but with WP7 it´s not that importent.

tiny17 said:
Yep. imPatiently waiting for Mango.
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Fixed.
// stupid 10 character limit. -.-

This thread just sums it up. Everything on WP7 just works. It's so fluid it doesn't need to be tweaked. Everyone waiting patiently for Mango ;-)
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I wholeheartedly agree WP7 does almost everything I need my smartphone to do but it will not play audio books. I have them on my phone but I cannot save my spot. It treats an audio book like a mp3. I tried treating it as a podcast but Zune then fails to see it. I am stuck using my damn Nano.
This is a big missing item for me. Combine that with the lack of vendor support and I am getting frustrated. No audible application. No HBOGo application. No LogMeIn ignition. I even boycotted audible and told them they lost a customer of over 5 years until they step up and get my my WP7 app. No luck so far...
It seems WP7 is still not considered a player and that is very frustrating because overall this phone rocks!

dkp1977 said:
Fixed.
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haha - True enough. I've got some insider connections, and am trying desperately to get into the pre-release of Mango.

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I wholeheartedly agree WP7 does almost everything I need my smartphone to do but it will not play audio books. I have them on my phone but I cannot save my spot. It treats an audio book like a mp3. I tried treating it as a podcast but Zune then fails to see it. I am stuck using my damn Nano.
This is a big missing item for me. Combine that with the lack of vendor support and I am getting frustrated. No audible application. No HBOGo application. No LogMeIn ignition. I even boycotted audible and told them they lost a customer of over 5 years until they step up and get my my WP7 app. No luck so far...
It seems WP7 is still not considered a player and that is very frustrating because overall this phone rocks!
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There's an app for playing audio books that supports bookmarks. It's called Audio Bookmark if I recall correctly. There's definitely a thread about it here on XDA.
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Found the thread about it: clicky
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haha - True enough. I've got some insider connections, and am trying desperately to get into the pre-release of Mango.
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I won't give up hope that there'll be an update through Zune or some sort of ROM for officially developer unlocked devices. If not, heck, I'll have to wait for the official release. Either way, I'm looking forward to it.

i'm saving all my rants until mango gets its first delay.

i'm saving my rants until mango doesn't fix notifications.

Isn't it Great!!!!
Yes, the naysayers, doom sayers "it's not my old WM6.5 whiners" and "WP7 is a fail" sayers are gone. I really miss the latter, they were comic abusers of the English language. I challenged all of them to return after Mango and apologize for wasting space here and wasting our time with their frustrated, comical rants. They are gone because the news is universally good relative to WP7. Aquisitions, alliances, features etc. have all been good and in fact, much better than any of us had dreamed. It will turn out that WP7 is an OS and UI to reckon with. I am very pleased with my Focus and was one of those WM 6.5 tweakers and flashers who initially thought I missed all of that wasted time spent waiting for a new ROM to flash. No need anymore and don't want to be there ever again.

toeser said:
I wholeheartedly agree WP7 does almost everything I need my smartphone to do but it will not play audio books. I have them on my phone but I cannot save my spot. It treats an audio book like a mp3. I tried treating it as a podcast but Zune then fails to see it. I am stuck using my damn Nano.
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You may want to look at Overdrive. It's Audio books from your library. I just installed it yesterday and looking for my library card to check out my first Audio book.

Thanks Guys.
Unfortunately Audiobookmark and Overdrive both only support mp3 formats.
Although I am glad to see Overdrive is now available - it is still not really useful until they implement WMA support. Almost all the audiobooks I checked out and are interested in are in WMA format, aaaaaaargh.
I did find a very kludgey workaround. I load the book onto my iPod. I then pull it off using iDump which gets it on my computer in a m4b format. I change the file tag genre to "Podcast" and then add it into Zune.
That finally gave me the ability to listen to my audiobooks as podcasts which allows me to use bookmarks in an audiobook checked out from Overdrive. A bit of work. Not sure if it is worth it to not use my old iPod.

Its quiet because there is literally nothing going on with WP7 right now. Nothing.
Until mango. When it gets here, there will be a burst of threads and new arguments.

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i'm saving my rants until mango doesn't fix notifications.
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and landscape support. and ringer volume. and update bugs. etc etc. we all know the drill. except perhaps the person below you who's so convinced no complaint==people happy.

JamesAllen said:
Yes, the naysayers, doom sayers "it's not my old WM6.5 whiners" and "WP7 is a fail" sayers are gone. I really miss the latter, they were comic abusers of the English language. I challenged all of them to return after Mango and apologize for wasting space here and wasting our time with their frustrated, comical rants. They are gone because the news is universally good relative to WP7. Aquisitions, alliances, features etc. have all been good and in fact, much better than any of us had dreamed. It will turn out that WP7 is an OS and UI to reckon with. I am very pleased with my Focus and was one of those WM 6.5 tweakers and flashers who initially thought I missed all of that wasted time spent waiting for a new ROM to flash. No need anymore and don't want to be there ever again.
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Well currently there is absolutely nothing to talk about isn't it? It's still the same crippled OS with no Marketplace for most countries, no native letters and proper maps for most either, until Mango comes this fall - easily 4 months away. Plus not even one more new phone since launch. No customizations either. So what to talk about?
The user base here is pretty much limited to people who just "patiently wait" for upgrade. Those who didn't want to compromise their usage already switched to something else.
I am really curious what will be WP7 situation after Mango with unstoppable wave of Android and new iPhone. Really really curious how Nokia/WP7 will appear because honestly all other OEMs didn't REALLY meet my expectations.
So summing this up: exiting times ARE ABOUT to come, so it's hard to repeat endlessly future plans here.

doministry said:
Plus not even one more new phone since launch.
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what?

rmcgraw said:
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what?
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One new phone then (HTC 7 Pro) the others being existing phones ported to new carriers. He's right about the rest.

Next Week Nexus Returns....

We just spoke to Google, which confirmed that the Galaxy Nexus is no longer on sale right now, but Google says the device will begin shipping again next week. The company wouldn't get into specifics about why sales stopped, or whether new devices will include a patch that works around the court's preliminary ban, but they will indeed have the new Android 4.1 update.
LINK

From what I read they are going to remove the search functionality to be able to search for anything on the phone. Apple is lame and karma will get them in the end once people wise up and realize apple products come with too many limitations.
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From what I read they are going to remove the search functionality to be able to search for anything on the phone. Apple is lame and karma will get them in the end once people wise up and realize apple products come with too many limitations.
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Yea man that sucks over a stupid little feature.
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Google (the search company) can't put search on their phones anymore because Apple patented it...:screwy:
I sincerely hope Google is granted their notification patent and use it to crush Apple for their blatant copying of Android.

Im sure Google appreciates the publicity and boost in sales. Apple failed.

So new GNex will ship with JB. I wonder if tgis means we will be getting JB source soon.

This does go to show exactly how stupid and outdated our patent laws are that they allow for things like this. Google has had universal search as part of Android for quite some time and now all of a sudden it's an issue???

qreffie said:
This does go to show exactly how stupid and outdated our patent laws are that they allow for things like this. Google has had universal search as part of Android for quite some time and now all of a sudden it's an issue???
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Hasnt android had voice search before apple?

doctahjeph said:
Hasnt android had voice search before apple?
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Yep.

doctahjeph said:
Hasnt android had voice search before apple?
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The issue isn't voice search, it's universal search allowing the phone to search for applications, contacts, and media already on the phone as well as the internet and alternative sources (wikipedia, wolfram alpha...) when searching (speaking or typing into the search bar). Apple first debut it in iOS 3 I believe. I don't know when Android started doing it but it was around the same time.

Iirc, didn't some Nokia smart phones have 'universal' search. You just started typing what you were looking for and it would spit back things you had on phone. I think you could enable it to search web too.
butter and jelly please...

I can only hope Google decides they can live without the revenue they get (yes, I have heard they get more from iPhones than from Android phones... dunno how THAT works but anyway...) from iPhones and pull all Google services from iOS.

It sounds very much like Google Desktop to me. It searches a ton of things on my computer and it searches the web as well.
Seriously though, do other industries have these issues and we just never hear about them? Cars tend to all look and feel very similar. How do they deal with it? What about TVs? They are all rectangles with screens. Most cameras work very similarly. There is a ton of products that we use daily that work very much the same all the time, so how come I never hear about them having these issues?

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I sincerely hope Google is granted their notification patent and use it to crush Apple for their blatant copying of Android.
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Has Google even tried to patent it?
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I can only hope Google decides they can live without the revenue they get (yes, I have heard they get more from iPhones than from Android phones... dunno how THAT works but anyway...) from iPhones and pull all Google services from iOS.
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Never happen. all Android is to Google is an added revenue stream for their ad business. If Android fails they'll just go full on Apple. Selling ads on Google is what Google cares about.

I personally don't think Google will do anything because they want their services to continue running on iPhones. Apple can simple start putting in Bing apps and then Google would lose millions of dollars... my 2 cents why Google doesn't do anything....
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It sounds very much like Google Desktop to me. It searches a ton of things on my computer and it searches the web as well.
Seriously though, do other industries have these issues and we just never hear about them? Cars tend to all look and feel very similar. How do they deal with it? What about TVs? They are all rectangles with screens. Most cameras work very similarly. There is a ton of products that we use daily that work very much the same all the time, so how come I never hear about them having these issues?
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I guess other industries actually try to compete. Most of the time at least.
butter and jelly please...

eqjunkie829 said:
From what I read they are going to remove the search functionality to be able to search for anything on the phone. Apple is lame and karma will get them in the end once people wise up and realize apple products come with too many limitations.
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Sorry man. People who live under a rock (the majority of the market) will never know, care and do a thing.

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I can only hope Google decides they can live without the revenue they get (yes, I have heard they get more from iPhones than from Android phones... dunno how THAT works but anyway...) from iPhones and pull all Google services from iOS.
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Apple is trying to kill Google services. Haven't u noticed???

Well one thing for sure, my blackberry was able to do this for a LONG time, well before iPhone was even a forethought. So F U Apple!! You are now one of the biggest patent trolls known to man

Well is google gone patent the notification bar?
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