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The Best Internet Browser

helo all
What is the best and the fast internet browser for HTC Universal using 3G connections ...
anyone have an experience ??
cheers..

If you ask me, Opera 8.60 and Netfront 3.3 are the only two contenders in this area.
After having extensively evaluated both of them I have put my money on the Netfront 3.3 now available in commercial versions
Regards

i hv used both of them. Opera provides the fastest internet experience and also the best internet experince. Pages get loaded pretty quickly

Hi kdskamal,
I absolutely agree with you that page loading in Opera 8.60 is faster than on Netfront 3.3. Furthermore the page rendering on Opera is also closer to the desktop experience. But one thing which made me opt for Netfront 3.3 is that if you load really large pages then the scrolling gets really slow and almost unusable. For example try the site www.pocketpcdubai.com and you will notice the difference.
The other thing which made me prefer Netfront 3.3 is the fact that this is the only browser whcih can handle file attachments at the Hotmail site. Finally support for flash objects was again another plus for me to buy netfront.
Regards

Opera seems to provide the best functionality and performance.
If you want to preserve Microsoft integration and services, stick with IE, but you will suffer from sluggish performance and minimal features.
Catch 22

If someone gets me an open source, I can build an awesome browser :lol:

Opera 8.6 is highly recommended
Preferably with a registry hack to act like IE6 (I use Tweaks2K) to ensure that you can still do all the secure stuff. The registry hack just allows you to load pages that may be a little strict about what browsers can view them.

I just installed Opera, and works great. Only pda pages will be shown very small, but that's why there's a zoom function. :lol:
The only thing is that the LogMeIn plugin you have to install for using this function doesn't seem to work with Opera, only on Microsoft IE or is it just me again???

Of the two (Opera and Netfront), I prefer the new Netfront 3.3 - install a narrow font on your Universal, and you can render all pages comfortably in the normal screen area. The stylesheet support is definitely the more complete, which gives perfect page layouts every time. Opera seems a bit quicker, but I find the occasional inability to tap select links to become incredibly infuriating.

Has anyone else tried Minimo yet? (Mozilla's Mobile Manifestation of Firefox)
For browsing purposes I have found it to be superior compared to others. The viewing area is huge (you don't need to set your Universal to VGA).
However, its downfalls are the amount storage and memory it uses. Additionally, it doesn't support Flash.
I'm sure future versions will be improved.
But like I said, give me an Open Source and I'll work on something :lol:

Full Internet

Is it possible to get "full internet" on the Artemis aka as the Iphone and just seen the LG Viewty has? Or is this down to the service provider? I know you can view full pages, but the scroll bar navigation is a pain.

Try to find Picsel Browser i am using this one for a little while and it's great
http://www.picsel.com/index.php/solutions/view/C11/
and youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5xMly0-dcM&feature=related

Where can we get picsel browser?

Opera Mini
Theres also Opera Mini with full page zoom etc and its free. http://www.operamini.com/

apap said:
Where can we get picsel browser?
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Hi I have looked at this software and it looks great do any of the mods know if it will work on our devices or is that just wishful thinking.

Has anyone had a look at Deepfish? i think its in testing, looks good tho.
Link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1729140#post1729140
-edit- just use Opera Mini!!!

Opera mini 4 is by far the best, and works very similar to how Safari operates on the iPhone.

Opera Mini is absolutely the best. Especially the new opera mini 4. Works real fast, minimizes the download amount, and speeds the loading of pages on GPRS connections.

you can set your device to view in Desktop mode as it is, not the fastest though but this is down to the network speed and will be about the same as the iPhone. Your device has always had the ability to view the full internet, as long as your provider allows it.

pwvandeursen said:
Opera Mini is absolutely the best. Especially the new opera mini 4. Works real fast, minimizes the download amount, and speeds the loading of pages on GPRS connections.
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I just downloaded Opera Mini... WOW!

sorry , was a mistake

The real thing is Opera for Windows Mobile 8.65. Almost desktop experience including tabs, secure connections etc.

TheOnly1 said:
The real thing is Opera for Windows Mobile 8.65. Almost desktop experience including tabs, secure connections etc.
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True, but until Opera Mobile 9 is released, the free java based mini is far superior in terms of general usability.

New IrisBrowser The Opera Killer?

the new release of IrisBrowser is out with FlashLite support
and using webkit.
It's faster than Opera in my first tests.
Looks very promising now.
http://www.irisbrowser.com/download/download3.php
What do you think?

cheers for the heads up - downloading now - sounds promising.

Tested with the Official FlashLite 3.1 from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483240

yes really nice browser but the navigation could be more intuitive. but i think he works great and fast and thats it

Fast? Are you sure... it seems to be uite slow in loading. The operation is fast, and scrolling once loaded nice... but nothing special.

iris is pretty slow over gprs but not bad on wifi, it does however render much better than any other mobile browser..

Iris, Opera, Skyfire
I like the opera for the nice smooth look around in websites thing.. And iris is nice animations between wesite changes it like fades but it seems its kinda the same as opera to showing websites.. But it can´t show every website with flash content.. And i found a browser that can do it.. Skyfire new release now for Touch HD with wvga screen.. It takes all sites flash content and everything.. It is also fastest browser of them all.. Im not sure about if it works with edge.. I only have 3g and HSDPA.. In mobile browser type "get.skyfire.com" like internet explorer, opera diddent work for me to download skyfire in.

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the new release of IrisBrowser is out with FlashLite support
and using webkit.
It's faster than Opera in my first tests.
Looks very promising now.
http://www.irisbrowser.com/download/download3.php
What do you think?
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I just tried version 1.0.1.6. a few days ago. Is this the same version or newer than that?

this one is 1.1....really nice.

iplayer on iris
bbc iplayer doesnt even work on it so how is it good

Had tried out almost every release in the past, and this version is a big improvement over the past's. It is better than I have expected, but is still not good enough. I can't download file correctly, just see garbage on the screen. Just like Opera, it cause havoc to smart keyboard such as Tengo and TouchPal.
One nice thing that it excel over Opera is that it has shows a miniaturised webpage with a red rectangle representing the currently view area, and you're able to drag that red rectangle around to quickly move from one part of the web page to another other part quickly. I wish Opera Mobile can do that rather than having to swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe....swipe, swipe....swipe.
I like the fact that just like Opera Mobile, you can double tap to zoom in and out.
Yes, I think the rendering is slightly better than Opera Mobile but not as good as Opera Mini.
Speed wise, I rank them as Opera Mini being the fastest, Opera Mobile second, and Iris Browser last.
Still prefere Opera (both Opera mobile and Opera mini). Have been using Opera Mini lately and begin to prefer it over Opera Mobile.
But, I can see that given time this could be improved to an extend worthy of contending against Opera.

I prefer Netfront cos : in Iris the keyboard don't appear when you're in a textbox, and the doubletap to zoom is painful because when you want to tap on a button, it's so hard than you double tap everytime.

eaglesteve said:
Had tried out almost every release in the past, and this version is a big improvement over the past's. It is better than I have expected, but is still not good enough. I can't download file correctly, just see garbage on the screen. Just like Opera, it cause havoc to smart keyboard such as Tengo and TouchPal.
One nice thing that it excel over Opera is that it has shows a miniaturised webpage with a red rectangle representing the currently view area, and you're able to drag that red rectangle around to quickly move from one part of the web page to another other part quickly. I wish Opera Mobile can do that rather than having to swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe....swipe, swipe....swipe.
I like the fact that just like Opera Mobile, you can double tap to zoom in and out.
Yes, I think the rendering is slightly better than Opera Mobile but not as good as Opera Mini.
Speed wise, I rank them as Opera Mini being the fastest, Opera Mobile second, and Iris Browser last.
Still prefere Opera (both Opera mobile and Opera mini). Have been using Opera Mini lately and begin to prefer it over Opera Mobile.
But, I can see that given time this could be improved to an extend worthy of contending against Opera.
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I agree with this. Opera mmini offers the best "net experience" smooth and fast. Not perfect, though.
Does anyone know if it is capable of multiple pages or tabs?

jalv3000 said:
Tested with the Official FlashLite 3.1 from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483240
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I've installed both Iris Browser (like it!) and Flash Lite 3.1 from this link above but flash contents won't show up on my HD - just a white screen ... what do I have to do?
Eriol

i tried this out today on wifi and also on HSPDA and i much prefer the opera browser then this one, its just not as fast for lookin at things on the internet, its not as easy to go and click on things, or work your way around the page.
i have yet to try flash properly on my htc HD, the only way i have used it so far was with skyfire (new wvga version).
anyone prefer this browser?

I really love this browser.... simple and easy to use.....

Hello
For me I like it a lot it's fast and the zoom is working well
It's supporting the landcaspe...
personnaly I'm converted

just tried 1.1.1. it's not bad but needs some work. Zoom in /out + scrolling around is slow compared to Opera (build 15529), switching between tabs is fiddly (you have to go into the menu to switch, no fast button like Opera), address bar is tiny (and keeps hiding itself) plus it's a memory hog (or it has a memory leak - had to reboot my phone after surfing just one website).
to summarise, it's promising but still needs quite a bit of work.

New version available 1.1.3
http://www.torchmobile.com/blog/

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New version available 1.1.3
http://www.torchmobile.com/blog/
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Thanks for the info
installed working great

Best Browser for X1?

I've used both IE and Opera, and it seems that IE is a lot faster (I always thought opera was supposed to be the fastest).
The browsing speed of my xperia, combined with the horrible keyboard doublepressing letters makes it a useless piece of junk to me for internet uses!
I had a better time using my X1 as a wi-fi router and reading manga on my iPod touch using its opera, it was amazingly fast (pages load within 1 second), however on the X1 itself, it would take FOREVER.

My top 3:
1. Opera
2. Skyfire
3. Internet Explorer.

Opera 10 for me. As a 'bit on the side' I also keep Picsel, it's a convenient browser and all-rounder for opening all sorts. At the time of me getting it a few years back, it was a semi-legal Samsung port that was protected better than White House. I loathe IE and never ever use it.

opera 10 is far better than IE, , much faster too... i wont mind having that IE that's faster than opera

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Hi there, I have experimented with many browsers, and the one browser i have found to work the best is Skyfire. I couldn't log into my banking webite due to many javascript and all sorts of funny things, and skyfire was the solution. I also use the others, as I have found that some work better than other. I don't think there is a master solution, but a question of experimenting and finding "horses for courses"... my 2 cents worth ....
Anton

There are many threads like that here. Use search little and you will see.
Also there is no clear solution to this answer. Everyone have different best browser.
For me, that is Opera 10.

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opera 10 is far better than IE, , much faster too... i wont mind having that IE that's faster than opera
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I have Opera 10 on my X1 and its not bad, however I was just wondering if anyone has managed to get www.tvcatchup.com working on their phone yet ? The browser keeps telling me that it needs flash so I installed flash light for windows mobile and it still come up with the message that it needs flash..

You won't get full flash on WM. Your best bet is to wait if they release Android 2.2 for X1, but flash would still be super slow and choppy.

My vote goes for Opera Mini (the .cab, not the .jar). MUCH faster than the std. browsers

paul c said:
My vote goes for Opera Mini (the .cab, not the .jar). MUCH faster than the std. browsers
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I know that one.

I am currently using Opera Mobile 9.5 but it sometimes crashes my phone when you first launch it or close the program.
So what is the best lite Internet browser for the X1?

opera 3.0 mini hand down !!!

paul c said:
My vote goes for Opera Mini (the .cab, not the .jar). MUCH faster than the std. browsers
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can i get the cab that's free?? i feel opera is better!!!

i am using the one called UC browser , its very good , fast and reduces GPRS traffic , i used to install opera mini with my p1i and p990i before , and it was better than UC and much more effective with the traffic reducing , but with my X1 , the only opera mini wich can be installed is the Opera mini 5 beta , which unfortunately doesnt support Arabic symbols ....
the opera mobile browser ( not mini ) consumes GPRS data like a monster , and is not economic at all

UC Web - Wonderful browser open 10 or more tabs!
UC Web is a wonderful browser I have been using. Both on the PPC and WinMo Standard. Can open lots of tabs (have often opened about 10!) and not restricted to 3, as in Opera 10.
Has proxy based compression to reduce data usage, if needed. Unlike most, have prefered it over Opera, Opera Mini, Teashark, IE, Skyfire etc. Though for some specific uses one may want to use other browsers, UC Web has been my default browser for a long time.
Also very suitable in downloading stuff.

I'm using Opera mini beta 5. It's really thumb friendly, fast and snappy.

My favourite browser for everyday use is opera 10. It's fast, displays most sites correctly and I like it's user interface.
For all sort of flash based sites I use Skyfire but I cannot use it as my standard browser because of the lack of tabbed browsing and the chessboard issue.
My default browser is Internet Explorer since I frequently use programs that rely on the default browser and I experienced some problems when I changed the default browser to Opera.

In china we use UCweb

Opera mini 5 is the fastest one then opera mobile or IE.

Which internet browser should be used?!

Hey guys, so as far as I know, most people use the Opera browser and that the IE browser is really slow. But I also found the Skyfire browser, but I have also seen mixed reviews on that. On my PC I used Google Chrome (which I love!), anyone know if Google is going to come out with a WinMo browser? (Yeah, I know that they have their own OS but thats not the point). Thanks!

khoyifish said:
Hey guys, so as far as I know, most people use the Opera browser and that the IE browser is really slow.
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They seem about the same to me. Though I can't get opera to work when on wifi.
But I also found the Skyfire browser, but I have also seen mixed reviews on that.
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Yeah, It used to work great for me about a year ago on my BlackJack II, But over the last year it seems to have been getting slower and slower, and buggier to boot. I thought maybe it would work like a breeze on the tilt2 having a faster processor etc... but seem to be the same old mess. Sometimes it loads up really fast, others it times out, tells me no connection, or just forgets its loading a page. Seems to be pretty hit or miss if people still have a good experience with it.
On my PC I used Google Chrome (which I love!), anyone know if Google is going to come out with a WinMo browser? (Yeah, I know that they have their own OS but thats not the point). Thanks!
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No, they are not. They only did that for windows desktop to pull people into the google experience on the desktop so they will be more willing to switch to chromium OS. It's the same "marketing" strategy that apple uses when they force safari and quicktime on you when you install itunes. But Google plays nice and doesn't install itself behind your back.

I pretty much just use Opera 9.7. Seems to work as well as anything. If you're looking for something like Skyfire (compressed proxy based browser) Opera Mini works pretty well, standalone version linked.

Opera 9.7 for me too. I prefer the scalable zoom over the 2 fixed zoom levels of Opera 10.
Once in a while, I will use Skyfire. A few sites seem to render better on Skyfire then Opera. But its Opera most of the time for me. Opera seems to be faster, and has a better zoom control.
IE is amazingly slow on my phone.

Skyfire FTW!!!

Opera 10 is working awesomely for me

Opera Mini 5 with the embedded Java package that someone here on XDA put together.
Mini is SO MUCH faster that Opera Mobile. Not even close IMO. It also seems to render most webpages better.
Skyfire is ok, but I tried an older version which was a bit buggy, not sure if their latest releases are better.

If you want to see flash then Skyfire for sure. For other things I use Opera 10.

@ those using Opera 10: anyone successfully got the zoombar working. I thought I read somewhere about people working on this? I find 10 faster but as previously mentioned, control over zoom is needed.

I've been using SkyFire for about 6 months and I have loved it, BUT!!! the past couple days it has been total crap. They say they are fixing it on their forums... We will see... Opera it is for now.

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@ those using Opera 10: anyone successfully got the zoombar working. I thought I read somewhere about people working on this? I find 10 faster but as previously mentioned, control over zoom is needed.
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Opera 10 only have 2 zoom levels built-in (no scalable zoom), so the zoombar isn't going to work. I don't believe a hack is possible, since there is nothing there to hack (no scalable zoom to link the zoombar with).

Thanks for all of your opinions. I might try Opera Mini out when I get back home. But ill probably just play it safe for a while, in regards to Skyfire.

opera is a nice browser but it's pretty slow in my opinion. I have yet to try opera mini so I may give it a try. So far my fav is skyfire because it's the fastest that I have ever used. I think MS should just buy skyfire and put it in their windows mobile. It may help them to sell their windows mobile phone>
anyone know if our zoom bar can work with opera mini? One of my problem with skyfire is the zoom bar not working with it.