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Lag when scrolling in Opera

Hey guys, when browsing websites in opera, I find that panning around pages is rather laggy. All other apps i have on my touch HD work very smoothly yet opera is the only exception. Is there anything i can do to improve performance? I have tried the new beta from the opera mobile website and whilst it is a considerable improvement in terms of how fluid it is, there is no zoom slider and no support for landscape. I am using Dutty's V3 final ROM. thanks

Anyone have any ideas

Does no one have a solution or atleast a way with which one could improve this?

I have the same problem. Please helped us ;D

There are no solution for this yet. The only one I can consider is browsing in portrait mode. Loading of the pages is faster than landscape.

rotating to portrait doesnt really help me...
are there any other internet browsers which offer more fluid browsing?

have you tried this? It's the same processor so it should work: http://www.fuzemobility.com/accelerate-your-kaiser-tilttouch-pro-fuze/

for me, the improvements arent so great.
you are supposed to run it and then press the home button to leave it running, right?

Try the Iris browser. I'm using it right now as my standard browser and it's working out pretty good. Rendering of pages is better then in 9.5 for me and it'll do till Opera Mobile 9.7 comes out.

ASK768 said:
for me, the improvements arent so great.
you are supposed to run it and then press the home button to leave it running, right?
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yes- run it, press 'enable' and it should say 'active' when you do that and hit home so it runs in the background (they're working on making it a system file so it always runs in the background but for now you need to just hit home).

i didnt find that the iris browser was any smoother. i found a new build of opera which has improved things somewhat, but i guess i just wait for opera 9.7 (like most) which will have open GL acceleration

Waiting for WinMo 6.5
I can't use none of the current browsers, Iris, Opera, etc. - they all work slow and sluggish...
I'm waiting for Windows Mobile 6.5...

WinMo 6,5 doesn't concern internet browsing. May be Opera 9,7 will be the Browser, that is the comments until now, but I'm not so sure about that. Probably will be there some improvements and optimizations, I hope at least.

Does Opera Mini web browser work with tmobile tp2????

Wondering if anyone has been able to install and successfully operate opera mini. This is one of my favorite browsers. When I installed the cab file it didnt load. I then went to the site and tried to download it and it would not open. If anyone has been able to do this or if you are able to find a solution I would be very grateful if you posted a working cab of the browser here in this thread. Thanks in advance!

Yes. it's my browser of choice, although the Jblend java manager sucks. hold on while i find the cab for you
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download the Opera Mini - large fonts (VGA) cab and put on your phone. You don't need the opera mini tweaks.
This will install Jbed java manager & install Opera Mini for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398567

Thanks for the quick response. I went to the link and attempted downloading the cab. The cab file says its 2.90mb but for some reason my tp2 is only dling 1.37mb. So the cab is not working. Anyway you can post the cab file here so I can download it direct? I need another source cause that site isnt cooperating with my phone.

Try Opera Mobile Beta 9.7. It has Turbo. The thing is FAST!!!

I have Opera Mobile. I would like Opera Mini. I just cant seem to download the entire cab from that site

unfortunately the cab is too big to upload. download it from that thread on to your computer & then move it to your phone

wow that sucks. i am going to try downloading it with my Kaiser then. My computer is currently down and awaiting repair so I am screwed for the moment. I cant even flash a new rom :-(

dkb218 said:
Try Opera Mobile Beta 9.7. It has Turbo. The thing is FAST!!!
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+1 for this!
mini is for smaller and simpler smartphones

dkb218 said:
Try Opera Mobile Beta 9.7. It has Turbo. The thing is FAST!!!
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but the zoom bar does not work. Any other way to zoom in?

leckig said:
but the zoom bar does not work. Any other way to zoom in?
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that's why i went with Mini, since the scroll bar doesn't work. Plus i love the syncing bookmarks feature.

I just gave 9.7 beta a try and to be honest I didn' notice a speed boost over the Opera browser that already comes packaged with the tp2. Even with turbo on i noticed nothing. Also its a very glitchy beta version. I miss mini :-( I will probably try the 9.7 once its finished but I still believe mini is the fastest.

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I just gave 9.7 beta a try and to be honest I didn' notice a speed boost over the Opera browser that already comes packaged with the tp2. Even with turbo on i noticed nothing. Also its a very glitchy beta version. I miss mini :-( I will probably try the 9.7 once its finished but I still believe mini is the fastest.
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I agree, the one that is installed is perfectly fine and you dont have to worry about all these bugs

Just wanted to thank you again for posting the cab. I was finally able to download it using internet exploer and its working great. Just my 2 cents, 3g plus opera mini equals fastest mobile internet experience ever only to be rivaled by wifi which is not so mobile.

You're welcome. I hear ya buddy, I like Opera Mini more than any of the other mobile browsers except Safari. I still use it even though I have full 3G & could Opera Mobile, but Mobile just sucks, right along with IE.

xnifex said:
Yes. it's my browser of choice, although the Jblend java manager sucks.
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What are the trade-offs between using Jblend vs. Jbed?
It's been a while since I've used Jbed. I remember it had a background mode, which Jblend still doesn't have. And I'm not crazy about how Jblend throws a wobbly when I change screen orientation.
But, beyond that I don't know how the Jblend version on the TP2 compares with the current Jbed. I haven't found any good comparisons that were less than a year or two old. Even the MIDlet Bible is out of date now.
I don't have a particular attachment to Jblend, but saying it "sucks" isn't a real compelling argument against it. Are there any real performance comparisons you're aware of between Jblend and other JVMs?

I base my statement off the fact that if you open/close the keyboard, the whole thing crashes/resets/whatever... That right there was the deal breaker.

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+1 for this!
mini is for smaller and simpler smartphones
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I use mini instead of 9.7b w/ turbo.
Why:
Mini is an order of magnitude faster in real life.
9.7b is still buggy as hell, often crashing.
Scrolling on 9.7b is painfully slow and redraws take a long time compared to Mini Opera.
Granted, one must install the above linked JBED+signed Opera Mini+associated quick link to get anywhere near usable installation of Opera Mini, and even after that one has to tweak the font size.
But once this is done, there's no contenst - at least for me. Mini Opera is waaaay faster than Opera 9.7b with turbo enabled.

Faster is not always better
both mini and mobile are great versions of the browser
what I like more from mobile is that is more complete more similar to a laptop browser, yes mini is faster but I still prefer opera mobile!
I have plenty of free memory and RAM to run it smoothly
And let´s wait to have the final stable release! that would be great!
just my opinion,

Mini is not just a little bit faster, its a lot faster. At least for me it is. Sure Mobile has more of a desktop look and feel and offers a more complete webpage experience. Thing is I dont need all the fancy flash animations and things of that nature when I am just trying to quickly check a website like this forum. I have both mini and mobile in case I have a problem with a certain site and even mobile gave me problems which made me resort to IE just to download a cab file.
I do have one problem though. Anyway to make the images larger on mini? I dled the hi res version as suggested and now all pics and certain buttons are very tiny. I tried settings and changed the image quality but this did nothing for the image size. Any solution?

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I base my statement off the fact that if you open/close the keyboard, the whole thing crashes/resets/whatever... That right there was the deal breaker.
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Yeah, that's definitely a nuisance, but so far it hasn't been a deal breaker for me. I use TouchPal as an on-screen keyboard most of the time, although I wouldn't give up the TP2 keyboard...when I feel the need for it, it's great. I still don't know if I'd label Jblend with "sucks", since I don't know how its performance compares overall, but if I changed orientations a lot when browsing and had to keep re-running Opera Mini, I'd be switching JVMs too!

[new !!!!] opera mobile 10

Opera has just released Opera Mini 10 for WindowsPhones (cab).
[WWE :] http://get.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/1000b1/Opera_Mobile_10_WM_beta_1.cab
[RU :] http://get.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/1000b1/Opera_Mobile_10_WM_beta_1_ru.cab

This is Opera Mini not Opera Mobile like in the Thread

AxlR said:
This is Opera Mini not Opera Mobile like in the Thread
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When i loaded it, the screen shows opera mobile 10. Not opera mini.

Anyone tried this yet? Does zooming work with the TP2 slider?

Pardon my ignorance, what's the difference between WWE and RU?

WWE - World Wide English
RU - Russian (I think?)

More info here: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/11/18/opera-10-beta-for-windows-mobile-released/

Some observations:
-page load times are impressive
-interface looks clean and modern (has a Safari feel to it)
-quickdial page is a good idea, but not intuitive to customize.
-tabs management is pretty and works well
-zoombar doesn't work natively
-screen rotates only on keyboard slideout, not with g-sensor.(I suppose this can be solved with g-sensor utility programs)
-no precise zooming. You're either zoomed in or out. No in between. And you can't zoom further in.
-no more realtime text reflow. Text are formatted into columns so they can be read zoomed in.
-vertical scrolling is not locked. That is, when you scroll vertically to read a column of text, sometimes your scrolling may be off to one side. In v9.5 and 9.7, this slight horizontal movement is ignored intelligently. This isn't the case for v10
-can't disable java-script
-the browser occupies the whole screen. You won't even have access to your Start Menu and taskbar.

I like the feel of the new browser
personally its more finger friendly for me and just looks better,

buffalosolja42 said:
personally its more finger friendly for me and just looks better,
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I must say i agree, one question. How to stop it going to mobile websites. The Configpera trick does not work on the 10. Drives me nuts when going to mobile view for example google or youtube.

I second that call. How do we change the Browser String ID?

It crashed twice on me within the first 10 minutes! So I then un-installed it, only to realise I no longer had Opera 9.7!!! I Hard-reset to get it back, but is there a cab for 9.7 and will it still link to the internet tab on TF3d?
I liked the look, but still didn't find it as fast as Opera Mini, even with the Turbo mode....

it is not work on my LG KS20, WM6.0

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It crashed twice on me within the first 10 minutes! So I then un-installed it, only to realise I no longer had Opera 9.7!!! I Hard-reset to get it back, but is there a cab for 9.7 and will it still link to the internet tab on TF3d?
I liked the look, but still didn't find it as fast as Opera Mini, even with the Turbo mode....
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Same problem...
When opera mobile 10 uninstalled it breaks the link in the TF3D to opera mobile 9.5. I now have it linked to IE...
Not sure how to get it back to opera mobile 9.5

anyone got flash working yet? movies?
no flash love here VZW TP2 running stock 6.1ROM

The officials *.cab for Opera Mobile 9.5 & Opera Mobile 9.7 are on official Opera's website. (www.opera.com)

Can someone tell me how to bring-in/import my current Opera bookmarks?
In 9.x versions I could copy "opera6.adr" (which I keep archived on my sd card) to the Opera9 folder under Windows, but copying that file to anywhere in the Opera10 folder under Programs didn't seem to work.

it's a BETA, stop expecting full version stability and features. . .

Zylograth said:
it's a BETA, stop expecting full version stability and features. . .
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Isn't it OK to at least mention bugs? Or is not not permitted?
Since when is "just-use-it-or-not-but-just-keep-quiet" the XDA policy?

MCbrian, you're welcome sharing with us your point of view about Opera and what you liked and what you liked less.

Best Browser for X1?

I've used both IE and Opera, and it seems that IE is a lot faster (I always thought opera was supposed to be the fastest).
The browsing speed of my xperia, combined with the horrible keyboard doublepressing letters makes it a useless piece of junk to me for internet uses!
I had a better time using my X1 as a wi-fi router and reading manga on my iPod touch using its opera, it was amazingly fast (pages load within 1 second), however on the X1 itself, it would take FOREVER.

My top 3:
1. Opera
2. Skyfire
3. Internet Explorer.

Opera 10 for me. As a 'bit on the side' I also keep Picsel, it's a convenient browser and all-rounder for opening all sorts. At the time of me getting it a few years back, it was a semi-legal Samsung port that was protected better than White House. I loathe IE and never ever use it.

opera 10 is far better than IE, , much faster too... i wont mind having that IE that's faster than opera

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Hi there, I have experimented with many browsers, and the one browser i have found to work the best is Skyfire. I couldn't log into my banking webite due to many javascript and all sorts of funny things, and skyfire was the solution. I also use the others, as I have found that some work better than other. I don't think there is a master solution, but a question of experimenting and finding "horses for courses"... my 2 cents worth ....
Anton

There are many threads like that here. Use search little and you will see.
Also there is no clear solution to this answer. Everyone have different best browser.
For me, that is Opera 10.

spikegotti said:
opera 10 is far better than IE, , much faster too... i wont mind having that IE that's faster than opera
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I have Opera 10 on my X1 and its not bad, however I was just wondering if anyone has managed to get www.tvcatchup.com working on their phone yet ? The browser keeps telling me that it needs flash so I installed flash light for windows mobile and it still come up with the message that it needs flash..

You won't get full flash on WM. Your best bet is to wait if they release Android 2.2 for X1, but flash would still be super slow and choppy.

My vote goes for Opera Mini (the .cab, not the .jar). MUCH faster than the std. browsers

paul c said:
My vote goes for Opera Mini (the .cab, not the .jar). MUCH faster than the std. browsers
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I know that one.

I am currently using Opera Mobile 9.5 but it sometimes crashes my phone when you first launch it or close the program.
So what is the best lite Internet browser for the X1?

opera 3.0 mini hand down !!!

paul c said:
My vote goes for Opera Mini (the .cab, not the .jar). MUCH faster than the std. browsers
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can i get the cab that's free?? i feel opera is better!!!

i am using the one called UC browser , its very good , fast and reduces GPRS traffic , i used to install opera mini with my p1i and p990i before , and it was better than UC and much more effective with the traffic reducing , but with my X1 , the only opera mini wich can be installed is the Opera mini 5 beta , which unfortunately doesnt support Arabic symbols ....
the opera mobile browser ( not mini ) consumes GPRS data like a monster , and is not economic at all

UC Web - Wonderful browser open 10 or more tabs!
UC Web is a wonderful browser I have been using. Both on the PPC and WinMo Standard. Can open lots of tabs (have often opened about 10!) and not restricted to 3, as in Opera 10.
Has proxy based compression to reduce data usage, if needed. Unlike most, have prefered it over Opera, Opera Mini, Teashark, IE, Skyfire etc. Though for some specific uses one may want to use other browsers, UC Web has been my default browser for a long time.
Also very suitable in downloading stuff.

I'm using Opera mini beta 5. It's really thumb friendly, fast and snappy.

My favourite browser for everyday use is opera 10. It's fast, displays most sites correctly and I like it's user interface.
For all sort of flash based sites I use Skyfire but I cannot use it as my standard browser because of the lack of tabbed browsing and the chessboard issue.
My default browser is Internet Explorer since I frequently use programs that rely on the default browser and I experienced some problems when I changed the default browser to Opera.

In china we use UCweb

Opera mini 5 is the fastest one then opera mobile or IE.

Which internet browser should be used?!

Hey guys, so as far as I know, most people use the Opera browser and that the IE browser is really slow. But I also found the Skyfire browser, but I have also seen mixed reviews on that. On my PC I used Google Chrome (which I love!), anyone know if Google is going to come out with a WinMo browser? (Yeah, I know that they have their own OS but thats not the point). Thanks!

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Hey guys, so as far as I know, most people use the Opera browser and that the IE browser is really slow.
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They seem about the same to me. Though I can't get opera to work when on wifi.
But I also found the Skyfire browser, but I have also seen mixed reviews on that.
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Yeah, It used to work great for me about a year ago on my BlackJack II, But over the last year it seems to have been getting slower and slower, and buggier to boot. I thought maybe it would work like a breeze on the tilt2 having a faster processor etc... but seem to be the same old mess. Sometimes it loads up really fast, others it times out, tells me no connection, or just forgets its loading a page. Seems to be pretty hit or miss if people still have a good experience with it.
On my PC I used Google Chrome (which I love!), anyone know if Google is going to come out with a WinMo browser? (Yeah, I know that they have their own OS but thats not the point). Thanks!
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No, they are not. They only did that for windows desktop to pull people into the google experience on the desktop so they will be more willing to switch to chromium OS. It's the same "marketing" strategy that apple uses when they force safari and quicktime on you when you install itunes. But Google plays nice and doesn't install itself behind your back.

I pretty much just use Opera 9.7. Seems to work as well as anything. If you're looking for something like Skyfire (compressed proxy based browser) Opera Mini works pretty well, standalone version linked.

Opera 9.7 for me too. I prefer the scalable zoom over the 2 fixed zoom levels of Opera 10.
Once in a while, I will use Skyfire. A few sites seem to render better on Skyfire then Opera. But its Opera most of the time for me. Opera seems to be faster, and has a better zoom control.
IE is amazingly slow on my phone.

Skyfire FTW!!!

Opera 10 is working awesomely for me

Opera Mini 5 with the embedded Java package that someone here on XDA put together.
Mini is SO MUCH faster that Opera Mobile. Not even close IMO. It also seems to render most webpages better.
Skyfire is ok, but I tried an older version which was a bit buggy, not sure if their latest releases are better.

If you want to see flash then Skyfire for sure. For other things I use Opera 10.

@ those using Opera 10: anyone successfully got the zoombar working. I thought I read somewhere about people working on this? I find 10 faster but as previously mentioned, control over zoom is needed.

I've been using SkyFire for about 6 months and I have loved it, BUT!!! the past couple days it has been total crap. They say they are fixing it on their forums... We will see... Opera it is for now.

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@ those using Opera 10: anyone successfully got the zoombar working. I thought I read somewhere about people working on this? I find 10 faster but as previously mentioned, control over zoom is needed.
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Opera 10 only have 2 zoom levels built-in (no scalable zoom), so the zoombar isn't going to work. I don't believe a hack is possible, since there is nothing there to hack (no scalable zoom to link the zoombar with).

Thanks for all of your opinions. I might try Opera Mini out when I get back home. But ill probably just play it safe for a while, in regards to Skyfire.

opera is a nice browser but it's pretty slow in my opinion. I have yet to try opera mini so I may give it a try. So far my fav is skyfire because it's the fastest that I have ever used. I think MS should just buy skyfire and put it in their windows mobile. It may help them to sell their windows mobile phone>
anyone know if our zoom bar can work with opera mini? One of my problem with skyfire is the zoom bar not working with it.