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Is there any way that contrast,saturation,sharpness and brightness settings can be adjusted in 0.1, 0.2,1.5, 1.9 etc. Instead of just +1, 2,3 etc.
If this can be achieved in thinking the camera would take care better pics.
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doinbox said:
Is there any way that contrast,saturation,sharpness and brightness settings can be adjusted in 0.1, 0.2,1.5, 1.9 etc. Instead of just +1, 2,3 etc.
If this can be achieved in thinking the camera would take care better pics.
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Yes, as well as brightness there is contrast, sharpness, saturation. Also you have white balance settings, (usual choices), ISO 100 to 800 ( I've not tried low light situations yet with different iso's), not tried them all yet. from small up to 5mp 2592x1552 in quality settings + Normal fine and high (which I always keep it on) Metering modes, spot , centre and Average. self timer, geo tag, auto focus choice face detection,.
So there is plenty of manual options to experiment with. Remember it doesn't really matter how many megapixels you have or top of the range phone, at the end of the day it is still JUST a mobile phone. Pics will only be as good quality wise as the lens will allow and some photos obviously not as good as a proper camera.
Also found that it its worth having something like picsay pro installed. Can adjust pictures exposure, brightness, contrast etc to the Nth degree.
The pictures on my desire tend to be under exposed and washed out colors regardless of camera settings. Picsay pro is fantastic at fixing them. Has some good fun features too.
Give the lite version a go. Not sue what its limitations are though.
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auldreekie said:
Yes, as well as brightness there is contrast, sharpness, saturation. Also you have white balance settings, (usual choices), ISO 100 to 800 ( I've not tried low light situations yet with different iso's), not tried them all yet. from small up to 5mp 2592x1552 in quality settings + Normal fine and high (which I always keep it on) Metering modes, spot , centre and Average. self timer, geo tag, auto focus choice face detection.
So there is plenty of manual options to experiment with. Remember it doesn't really matter how many megapixels you have or top of the range phone, at the end of the day it is still JUST a mobile phone. Pics will only be as good quality wise as the lens will allow and some photos obviously not as good as a proper camera.
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I don't think you understand my question mate.
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auldreekie said:
Remember it doesn't really matter how many megapixels you have or top of the range phone, at the end of the day it is still JUST a mobile phone. Pics will only be as good quality wise as the lens will allow and some photos obviously not as good as a proper camera.
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I agree about the mega pixels. 5 is plenty unless you want to do large prints/posters. I don't agree that you say it's JUST a mobile phone. I see people use this a lot as an excuse for a deficient camera on a phone. Nokia and Sony seem to manage to put decent camera's and lenses in their top end phones, so there is no excuse IMO.
Personally like Photoshop .com Mobile...Free on Marketplace. Maybe I favour it because I use full Photoshop CS3 on the PC to touch up photos from my dslr etc.
Mobile version has crop, straighten, change exposure values and quite a bit more. Dead easy to use too.
spen2 said:
I agree about the mega pixels. 5 is plenty unless you want to do large prints/posters. I don't agree that you say it's JUST a mobile phone. I see people use this a lot as an excuse for a deficient camera on a phone. Nokia and Sony seem to manage to put decent camera's and lenses in their top end phones, so there is no excuse IMO.
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Maybe I could have worded it a little better, I don't mean to say it's a crap phone, I chose this one myself and I love it. It's great in all dep'ts even the camera is reasonable but in quality terms (not composing) it's never going to beat my £1000.00 lens on my slr is it.
On my Touch HD , it was advised to use normal mode as opposed to wide screen mode.
The reason was you have tegh same number of pixels but in wide mode they are stretched out.
Is this true on the Desire??
One thing I have notice with the pictures/movies taken with G3 is that they are way oversaturated, the picture isnt natural in color.
Are there any app/kernel which makes it possible to adjust the saturation in the camera?
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One thing I have notice with the pictures/movies taken with G3 is that they are way oversaturated, the picture isnt natural in color.
Are there any app/kernel which makes it possible to adjust the saturation in the camera?
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Not really experienced this high level of saturation you speak of, i have paid for LGCam though which does let you change some extra settings
sofir786 said:
Not really experienced this high level of saturation you speak of, i have paid for LGCam though which does let you change some extra settings
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What settings are available in LGCam? White balance, color, light...?
These are the following settings available
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These are the following settings available
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Thans, sad that there where no settings for the other things I mention. I realy hop LG fix their camera, G3 isnt the only model that takes pictures which is oversaturated in colors.
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Thans, sad that there where no settings for the other things I mention. I realy hop LG fix their camera, G3 isnt the only model that takes pictures which is oversaturated in colors.
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I think you have a handset specific issue tbh, none of my photos are and even reviewers said it has very accurate colours
Not one single image taken on my G3 is oversaturated, the colours are actually very natural, and look great.
The poster above me is probably correct, you may have some fault with your G3.
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One thing I have notice with the pictures/movies taken with G3 is that they are way oversaturated, the picture isnt natural in color.
Are there any app/kernel which makes it possible to adjust the saturation in the camera?
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What app are you using to take pictures with?
Are you viewing the photos on your computer, tv or on G3 itself?
If on PC or TV, their color saturation and balance will affect what you think is the photos themselves, but infact the colours are pretty good.
hippo2s said:
Are you viewing the photos on your computer, tv or on G3 itself?
If on PC or TV, their color saturation and balance will affect what you think is the photos themselves, but infact the colours are pretty good.
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No, the color arent that natural. I am a photographer and its pretty easy to see the oversaturation.
Lg G3
http://cnet3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r...66c5bd67ea733bc373fcc97/outdoorcolorslgg3.jpg
Iphone 6 Plus
http://cnet2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/2...974cf3236fd8ed31/outdoorcolorsiphone6plus.jpg
To me it is clear that the Lg G3 have more unnatural colors:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSxUQQr33Qk
Also one thing that I see on almost every picture on faces is that the skin dosent look natural, unsharp. Zoom in on those faces to see what I mean:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/topknotpl/16252293220/in/photostream/lightbox/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/14988811254
Did some comparisons between the Moto G5 plus and my old ASUS Zenfone 2. As soon as I started using it the colors seemed off, everything had this weird olive greenish hue and It didn't make any sense because launcher/homes seemed fine. But I'd browse a website, play pokemon go, or look at instagram and things were just washed out and dull while at the same time parts looked fine.
Finally found a test that explains what I was seeing and it's not good news. I was running the latest firmware with the volte fix. The app i used is called "DIsplay Tester" by "Brainntrapp" and open the test was "Banding, Contrast, Saturation" test. There are so many colors just missing on the G5 Plus the gradient looks horrible. The banding you see on the G5 plus was not visible in real life but the missing colors and hardness of the gradient was. Photos were taken with a Nikon D90 and Tamron 17-50 2.8.
The screen was driving me nuts so I didn't mess around with getting a replacement or sending to Moto to fix because I couldn't live with it if it didn't get resolved. I'll just have to keep looking/waiting for a replacement to my old zenfone.
Figured if any of you were having issues you could see if yours is similar, also curious to hear if you're _not_ having this issue as well which means it may make sense to buy once production issues are fixed.
I can't really tell any difference between Vibrant and Standard, but don't see any banding as in yours and think they look pretty decent imo.
The screen is on the less vibrant side than some others, but colors appear very accurate/realistic and the sharpness of detail is very good. My Moto X Pure screen is 1440p with more color depth but it has a yellowish tint to the whites in comparison. Coming from the Pure at first I thought the G5+ screen was going to be too bland, but after using it awhile I like its softer look which seems easier on the old eyes while still being very viewable.
I agree there's a really minimal difference between vibrant and standard. However, you took screenshots which will not show any issues as the actual data being sent is correct so we can't know if your screen does or doesn't have this issue. I had to take a picture of the screen with my DSLR and included my ASUS for comparison as a way to demonstrate the issue.
In the pictures I took, the hard breaks you see between the colors in the G5 are supposed to be smooth gradients and there is a ton of blue missing from the panel as well. This isn't just an issue of the screen being generally desaturated this is an uneven distribution of missing/desaturated colors. If it doesn't bother you that's certainly fine but it's very much an issue with the screen that should be addressed as it means that it is incapable of accurately reproducing colors even if the reproduction is pleasing to some. The banding I'm referring to is in the green section on my pictures and was not visible in real life and some form of artifact from taking the photo.
Sorry, I misread and thought you were referring to the banding as the main issue. I do see the more distinct color separation or breaks when looking at it directly in the app in either color mode. Just ran Display Tester on my Moto X Pure which shows the much more gradual blending (like on your ASUS) when looking at both phones side by side, although it should costing $150 more.
So it does indicate the G5+ lacks in color depth, something I noticed right away but which hasn't seemed like a minus after using it. The sharpness and wide viewing angles still seem like good quality, perhaps because it's IPS. But now I'm wondering if the KCAL features included in the latest extended stock kernel might help adjust things to look better.
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The sharpness and wide viewing angles still seem like good quality, perhaps because it's IPS. But now I'm wondering if the KCAL features included in the latest extended stock kernel might help adjust things to look better.
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That's part of why this confuses me so much. The sharpness and viewing angles are amazing for an IPS panel I'm not sure if IPS has anything to do with the colors (the ASUS is also IPS). I'd be very curious if KCAL helps as it seems like it should be able to, it could also be as simple as a bad color mode on the panel driver? I'd love to see a comparison from a custom rom to stock. I'm very split on thinking it's a software issue or it's a hardware issue. I don't have enough knowledge or experience to really do anything useful, but I'm hoping that providing the info gives others an ability/info to understand and look into it.
KCAL greatly improves the 'banding, contrast, saturation' result in Display Tester, which now looks as good as your ASUS or my MXPE once I found a good range of settings. Even on KCAL's initial settings the color gradients looked drastically better, so whatever was causing the lousy color depth definitely seems to be corrected by it as the screen looks excellent now.
I'm running on stock using the extended kernel btw. Maybe someone using a custom ROM can post on whether the colors are noticeably better than on stock and also test it in DT for comparison. Seems it'd be more of a driver or configuration error or bug than something hardware related, so maybe Lenovorola will be able to fix it with an update.
Dahenjo said:
KCAL greatly improves the 'banding, contrast, saturation' result in Display Tester, which now looks as good as your ASUS or my MXPE once I found a good range of settings. .
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Please share your current Kcal config .
How can I activate srgb mode on Moto G5 Plus
kaushal4595 said:
How can I activate srgb mode on Moto G5 Plus
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What we have to help with the washed-out screen is KCAL support available in both custom kernels (ElementalX and Extended Stock) on this forum. After installing either kernel you'll need to use either EX Kernel Manager app or Kernel Adiutor app (both at Playstore) to access the color control settings. I also found the Display Tester app mentioned above useful for checking how the settings I made looked. My screen looks terrific now.
I found that setting Saturation to 45 brings the best improvement, while setting Value to 135 brings another slight improvement.
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I found that setting Saturation to 45 brings the best improvement, while setting Value to 135 brings another slight improvement.
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That's indeed a very good setting. Thanks!
Saturation 50
Value 115
Contrast 140
Is what I've been using lately
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I found that setting Saturation to 45 brings the best improvement, while setting Value to 135 brings another slight improvement.
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I tried that and looks pretty good. Going to tweak contrast and see too. We should start a thread sharing tweaks
There is no way to fix this without root or Custom Kernel?
So if I'm getting it right I have to run kcal v1.2 on my moto g5 plus and from there I have access to color controls, is that correct?
Unfortunately, I have this same issue, although I didn't realize it, because my wife used the phone on the wifi to talk on Facebook so I ran out of time to return it.
What makes it worse is that it's the amazon-ads version so I can't even root it.
I put this phone right next to 3 other phones (with all LCD screens to be fair) and the difference is kinda shocking. The G5plus looks like it's been bleached, all the colors are faded, like I pulled some sliders to make it less vibrant and more black/white.
My wife didn't notice it, since she was using a basic phone until she got herself a new phone and told me, that "how come this looks more colorful?" That's when I took a better look at the G5plus.
After using it as my daily driver for a week, this phone got some serious color issues. Interestingly the pictures I took looked awful on this phone, but when I looked at the same pics (uploaded to google photos) on my PC, they look ok, not missing any colors.
Another issue I noticed. I turned off auto screen brightness OFF, because it just doesn't work.
I walk out to sunshine and the screen won't brighten and when I walked inside it won't darken so I ended up manually changing the brightness.
Here is the interesting (or rather annoying) part: When I turn the brightness up, it seems like it makes the whites more glowing, while the dark /black (let's say a shadow of a tree) just either stays too dark or turns more grey, instead of brighter. It's like the brightness control is controlling the exposure and contrast only.
Despite I see youtube videos talking about its 4K video capability, I think this phone makes terrible videos, especially how the camera applies too much contrasts and the HDR doesn't help it.
I also believe, that it's not all and every single device have this problem, because I'm sure I'd seen more complaints. It's just horrible quality control, and that's Lenovo for you.
I tried color tuning apps, but nothing seem to work. It probably requires a root but since it's an Amazon phone, it won't help it. So the phone works great as a phone, it just have an awful screen and a mediocre camera
This phone may have been enough in 2016 and 17 with these weaknesses as a budget, but seeing all the new budget Chinese phones coming out this year, I would not recommend this phone unless you can pick it up for $100 or less.
This phone is going into my drawer as soon as my new LG G6 arrives and the G5plus will be only used as a backup phone. There is no way I would keep using this as a daily driver unless I have no other choice.
Hey, iv got my S20 today. Been playing around with the camera and can honestly say I'm truly disappointed. The quality is awful. It finds it really hard to focus on things and the image quality is pants.
Iv just come from a p20 pro which I think was brilliant, I actually rate the camera on the p20 (a 2 yr old phone) 100x better than the S20.
Am I missing something or doing something wrong?
Waiting to fix focus with some updates... The quality is not awful, I think... Not so good as I expected too, but I have a hope that with some next updates, things will get better at some point... maybe
It's bad... Gutted iv got 10 days to return it. Guessing it ain't going to be fixed within that time
On wich software is your phone running? Samsung did fixed the issue with software updates on my phone.
Newest I think, iv got April 1st security updates.
today I cannot focus on my ID , driving license (to send it to my bank) , all photos was blurry in daytime condition shame
I noticed the same camera issues with my S20
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I noticed the same camera issues with my S20
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Got an s20 plus and the same situation in here, Can even focus anything, or any text on the main camera, as the front camera too. Disappointed, came from the mi9 with Gcam that took awesome pics.
Glad its not just me then, now I don't know if I should keep it or not. The main thing I use is the camera
For my s20+ samdung improved the Camera, esp the autofocus in the past 3 updates.. But still fail to fix the white balance in low light.
Photos taken esp food is always too warm or with red tint. Had to manually adjust white balance with adobe lightroom or snapseed.
I just wish samsung will fix the white balance as it is very obvious it's a firmware bug.
Autofocus is still bad but it improved woth firmware updates. Doesnt really bug me as i always press on the location to focus though..
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Well I've got 28 days now as the return centre has closed lol let's see how it goes
I have noticed several things that really annoy me and are making me think about selling it after 2 weeks. Does anyone else notice:
1. Extreme saturation of the colors on picture. Contrast is way too high. I have not been able to fix this.
2. Autofocus is really poor
3. In bright light outside, people almost are orange when using video. Gras is extremely green, it is so ugly.
4. When sending video on Whatsapp, quality decreases extreme. Meaning color is almost gone, quality very low. (I mean way more than the usual decreae because of dropping)
Really dissapoimted given the price of this device.
bucksbunny said:
I have noticed several things that really annoy me and are making me think about selling it after 2 weeks. Does anyone else notice:
1. Extreme saturation of the colors on picture. Contrast is way too high. I have not been able to fix this.
2. Autofocus is really poor
3. In bright light outside, people almost are orange when using video. Gras is extremely green, it is so ugly.
4. When sending video on Whatsapp, quality decreases extreme. Meaning color is almost gone, quality very low. (I mean way more than the usual decreae because of dropping)
Really dissapoimted given the price of this device.
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Grass is Extremely Green?: It was doing that to me too but it wasn't the Camera. It was because in Display I had Screen mode set to Vivid and not Natural. If you have Vivid on ever Picture is going to look oversaturated. It's the screen doing that not the Camera.
bucksbunny said:
I have noticed several things that really annoy me and are making me think about selling it after 2 weeks. Does anyone else notice:
1. Extreme saturation of the colors on picture. Contrast is way too high. I have not been able to fix this.
2. Autofocus is really poor
3. In bright light outside, people almost are orange when using video. Gras is extremely green, it is so ugly.
4. When sending video on Whatsapp, quality decreases extreme. Meaning color is almost gone, quality very low. (I mean way more than the usual decreae because of dropping)
Really dissapoimted given the price of this device.
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Try turn off scene optimization, this will boost collars also.
Or HDR and see if u like it better.
WhatsApp always decrease picture and video quality, if u want it 100% than u should select document and search for your photo or video.
apieschapie said:
Try turn off scene optimization, this will boost collars also.
Or HDR and see if u like it better.
WhatsApp always decrease picture and video quality, if u want it 100% than u should select document and search for your photo or video.
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I know this.
Tried the adjustment of the screen but problem remains.
And as I stated in my post; i know quality decreases on whatsapp video messaging (wich makes sense). But in this case the video's go to totally different to no colour, lighting changes, etc. etc.
I know you can expect some quality decrease, but this is absurd.
I keep trying new things but I'm still shocked at the camera, every photo looks blury. I'm not getting a crisp photo no matter what i do.
Iv given up with the 64mp mode as they are the worse pictures! So one of the phones biggest selling points rite there is useless.
10mp does auto focus faster but the lag between pressing the shutter button and it actually taking causes photo blur
Its pretty ok i think
bucksbunny said:
I have noticed several things that really annoy me and are making me think about selling it after 2 weeks. Does anyone else notice:
1. Extreme saturation of the colors on picture. Contrast is way too high. I have not been able to fix this.
2. Autofocus is really poor
3. In bright light outside, people almost are orange when using video. Gras is extremely green, it is so ugly.
4. When sending video on Whatsapp, quality decreases extreme. Meaning color is almost gone, quality very low. (I mean way more than the usual decreae because of dropping)
Really dissapoimted given the price of this device.
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Try to send the photos taken with extreme contrast. If it's still appears on other ppls phone with extreme contrast.
I had this issue.. I noticed photo abnormally warm and over saturated. Then after I transfer the photo to pc, it looks just fine.
Then i saw somewhere on xda, try changing the display setting from vivid to natural. It's much better.
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vash_h said:
Try to send the photos taken with extreme contrast. If it's still appears on other ppls phone with extreme contrast.
I had this issue.. I noticed photo abnormally warm and over saturated. Then after I transfer the photo to pc, it looks just fine.
Then i saw somewhere on xda, try changing the display setting from vivid to natural. It's much better.
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I can't anymore. After three weeks I sold mine. Dissapointed in Samsung. Looking for a K30 Pro now or even an Iphone 11.
bucksbunny said:
I can't anymore. After three weeks I sold mine. Dissapointed in Samsung. Looking for a K30 Pro now or even an Iphone 11.
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Same here, got rid of mine, got a p30 pro... amazing.
I read on sammobile that they don't think they can fix some of the issues with the exynos chip. Some of the side by side comparison tests with the Snapdragon may as well be a different phone
Is it me or does the colours on the photos taken form the rear camera is more punchier after the 11.2.4.4 update.
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Is it me or does the colours on the photos taken form the rear camera is more punchier after the 11.2.4.4 update.
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I've just updated mine I'll try out the camera shortly. I think it was lacking in that department so if they've addressed it happy days.
I think so too and I can't say I like it more.. Oversharpening got better but it's still a bit much and the photos are still too contrasty, I really hope they reduce the contrast in a future update. Darker colors get too crushed and it doesn't look realistic.
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I think so too and I can't say I like it more.. Oversharpening got better but it's still a bit much and the photos are still too contrasty, I really hope they reduce the contrast in a future update. Darker colors get too crushed and it doesn't look realistic.
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I have the same feelings even with the latest update I think it still captures over contrasty photo's some time.
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I've just updated mine I'll try out the camera shortly. I think it was lacking in that department so if they've addressed it happy days.
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As per I am noticing it seems like the colours are punchier in photo's than before.
Check what you have your screen calibration set to before you judge your photos, having it set to Vivid or Amoled Wide Gamut or P3 will give the illusion of very colourful photos when they're not. I keep my display at either Natural or sRGB since they are the two flattest profiles.
/ Magnus