So I've noticed on the evo that lots of apps like to run in the background and some of them keep a constant network connection causing horrible battery drain. anyone else notice this? no im not on 4g because its not available in los angeles yet. but i do know that the phones idle time sucks. So far I noticed the htc widget downloader likes to keep running
i reread this a couple times and have yet to figure out what you're asking. are you asking something? either way, you really didn't say much.
haha this is a redundant thread.
im just trying to figure out whats causing it to keep a constant network connection...when i go into spare parts it shows network usage at 100% for some app called "0" just seeing if anyone else has noticed this. there was a question you probably missed.
I don't have the phone yet. But it might be a processes that is watching, talking to, or protecting ring 0 which is the highest level of the security state in processor and operating system. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_(computer_security)
ChrisDos said:
I don't have the phone yet. But it might be a processes that is watching, talking to, or protecting ring 0 which is the highest level of the security state in processor and operating system. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_(computer_security)
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according to the app spare parts there is a process called "0" that takes up all of the network usage but I can not figure out where it is or what it is, maybe this is it but why would it take network usage? i mean i constantly see my 3g signal working non-stop
shakuyi said:
according to the app spare parts there is a process called "0" that takes up all of the network usage but I can not figure out where it is or what it is, maybe this is it but why would it take network usage? i mean i constantly see my 3g signal working non-stop
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Install a network usage monitor and check it out
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Install a network usage monitor and check it out
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hmm whats a good one that shows me the actual apps being used? i do see that something is downloading like 35kb/s consistently
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May be shooting in the dark here, but does anyone know if there is an app available that monitors your 3gp mobile internet usage. i.e Shows your internet usage(MB) that has been used over 3gp, not what you have used over wireless.
Thanks
I use Data Counter Widget, allows me to set it to show monthly statistics too from a set start point each month, so when your bill is paid & allowances are reset
Counts Wifi and 3g/GPRS/Cell data
PaulW21781 said:
I use Data Counter Widget, allows me to set it to show monthly statistics too from a set start point each month, so when your bill is paid & allowances are reset
Counts Wifi and 3g/GPRS/Cell data
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Sounds perfect, cheers!
PaulW21781 said:
I use Data Counter Widget, allows me to set it to show monthly statistics too from a set start point each month, so when your bill is paid & allowances are reset
Counts Wifi and 3g/GPRS/Cell data
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I used to use this too, until I discovered it stopped my phone from sleeping.
Moved onto 3G Watchdog which is pretty decent.
I can vouch for 3G Watchdog as well.
+1 for watchdog
can it distinguish between two sims?
i am having a dualsim adapter. and i only care for one of them.
Rusty! said:
I used to use this too, until I discovered it stopped my phone from sleeping.
Moved onto 3G Watchdog which is pretty decent.
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Can't say I've had the issue with the phone stopping sleeping, everything works perfectly!
try 'call meter ng'. monitors data as well as calls and messages. advantage with 3gwatchdog is the home screen widget, but both are equally accurate.
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Can't say I've had the issue with the phone stopping sleeping, everything works perfectly!
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Easy to check, dial *#*#4636#*#* and go into Battery history.
My running figure was at 100%, and looking in the Partial wake usage menu showed DCW to the be culprit
PaulW21781 said:
I use Data Counter Widget, allows me to set it to show monthly statistics too from a set start point each month, so when your bill is paid & allowances are reset
Counts Wifi and 3g/GPRS/Cell data
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I use this, and have had no issues with it sleeping properly.
Rusty! said:
Easy to check, dial *#*#4636#*#* and go into Battery history.
My running figure was at 100%, and looking in the Partial wake usage menu showed DCW to the be culprit
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I did what you said and see no Data counter widget. They just update a new version 4 days ago, maybe it's fixed?
Perhaps... hope so, as I kinda liked it, other than the battery drain
same, i like how it auto reset itself every month.
3G Watchdog does that too, and even predicts how much you will use upto a given point (in my case, the billing date)
3G Watchdog for me
Can you de-activate "3G Watchdog" ?
I plan to use it only when roaming.
Thanks for the advice chaps, ill give the 3g watchdog a go.
gogol said:
Can you de-activate "3G Watchdog" ?
I plan to use it only when roaming.
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You can hide the notification icon, and not use the widget but that's about it.
Rusty! said:
Easy to check, dial *#*#4636#*#* and go into Battery history.
My running figure was at 100%, and looking in the Partial wake usage menu showed DCW to the be culprit
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Total time for Data Counter Widget - 2m 40s (since all time) and the app was installed after the phone was rooted the day Paul(modaco) posted up the r1 method.
Only have one window open and my internet seems to be draining alot of memory and cpu usage and setting of my watchdog. How do i stop it? Recently cleared all the cache and cookies.
I would also like to know if I find anything out I'll let you know but in the mean time I think it depends on what you are viewing like facebook is an extremely large site with a lot of traffic.
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Only have one window open and my internet seems to be draining alot of memory and cpu usage and setting of my watchdog. How do i stop it? Recently cleared all the cache and cookies.
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Swyped from Eva running Myn's RLS4!
are you positive it is your internet. many process and apss run in the background so just because you only have internet open at the moment does not mean it is the internet for sure causing the problem.
what watchdog message is comign up when it goes off?
What browser are you using
are you using 3g or 4g
do you always have mobile data (3g or 4g depending on what you are using when the drain is happening) on?
Do yo have a process monitering app such as system panel?
I am going to assume you ahvent gone to that detail yet. I highly recommend getting the paid verion of system moniter if you are having this kind of issue as it lets you run a history of the top apps using cpu/power. it also lets you see a nice battey graph and shows you all process running wether they are active or inactive and how much cpu time they are using.
It makes diagnosing these kinds of problems much easier.
Stop using the internet. This should solve the problem.
Seriously though. Browsing the web with your EVO does all the things that suck the most battery. Graphics, 3G, 4G, Wifi.
omegasun18 said:
are you positive it is your internet. many process and apss run in the background so just because you only have internet open at the moment does not mean it is the internet for sure causing the problem.
what watchdog message is comign up when it goes off?
What browser are you using
are you using 3g or 4g
do you always have mobile data (3g or 4g depending on what you are using when the drain is happening) on?
Do yo have a process monitering app such as system panel?
I am going to assume you ahvent gone to that detail yet. I highly recommend getting the paid verion of system moniter if you are having this kind of issue as it lets you run a history of the top apps using cpu/power. it also lets you see a nice battey graph and shows you all process running wether they are active or inactive and how much cpu time they are using.
It makes diagnosing these kinds of problems much easier.
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It happens in both 3g and 4g. Watch dog pops up and says internet usage is at 71% would u like to close it? I say yes.
I have systsm panel lite...sometimes it works but alot of time it doesnt. Your most common apps just reopen up it seems like. Thank you for your help.
mitchellvii said:
Stop using the internet. This should solve the problem.
Seriously though. Browsing the web with your EVO does all the things that suck the most battery. Graphics, 3G, 4G, Wifi.
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Ahhh this is the answer i was looking for ( fart noise ). Pay$ 40 extra a month for internet usage and to be told not to use it. Thats like buying toilet paper and never wiping your ass.
Is anyone still working on fixing the "0" network bug (as seen in Spare Parts) that is draining some of us of our precious battery?
That bug was in the Moment also, no one ever fixed it or could tell what it really was, there was another one also, either 0 would be there or the other...
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Is anyone still working on fixing the "0" network bug (as seen in Spare Parts) that is draining some of us of our precious battery?
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It's not a bug. A bunch of smaller services are all grouped into that. Pretty much anytime your phone uses 3G it gets grouped into that service. That is why if you try to view it in Spare Parts you get an FC. Most services have stopped running and it can't make a proper list. If you have Wifi available, switch it on and watch 0 drop.
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That bug was in the Moment also, no one ever fixed it or could tell what it really was, there was another one also, either 0 would be there or the other...
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The bug has already been marked as something along the lines of being any root app or setting being grouped into that single UID. Im not sure if that goes the same for the Moment but thats the best someone has described it as for the Epic.
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It's not a bug. A bunch of smaller services are all grouped into that. Pretty much anytime your phone uses 3G it gets grouped into that service. That is why if you try to view it in Spare Parts you get an FC. Most services have stopped running and it can't make a proper list. If you have Wifi available, switch it on and watch 0 drop.
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I know it has been described as that but it IS a bug if its draining battery using the Network when it shouldnt AND its not happening to everyone. The smaller services are any root apps or settings you may have, which shouldnt be taking up more Network time than something that is more of a data user such as Facebook or YouTube.
Oh, and Ive had Wifi on for hours day after day and its still there.
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The bug has already been marked as something along the lines of being any root app or setting being grouped into that single UID. Im not sure if that goes the same for the Moment but thats the best someone has described it as for the Epic.
I know it has been described as that but it IS a bug if its draining battery using the Network when it shouldnt AND its not happening to everyone. The smaller services are any root apps or settings you may have, which shouldnt be taking up more Network time than something that is more of a data user such as Facebook or YouTube.
Oh, and Ive had Wifi on for hours day after day and its still there.
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What makes you think it is draining the battery? There is no way to tell how long it runs for and what services are in it? It is highest in my network usage until I ran email for a few minutes and that was higher. My battery is amazing, so it is not a battery drainer. It is just a bunch of unknown services that are not named.
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What makes you think it is draining the battery? There is no way to tell how long it runs for and what services are in it? It is highest in my network usage until I ran email for a few minutes and that was higher. My battery is amazing, so it is not a battery drainer. It is just a bunch of unknown services that are not named.
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All those services are using a bit of battery which amounts to a total of more than any other app that uses data that I have. If it wasnt draining battery it wouldnt be at the top and reduce the battery of whoever is affected by it from what Ive seen. It may not be affecting you but it IS a known case out there from what Ive seen in EVERY ROM thread.
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All those services are using a bit of battery which amounts to a total of more than any other app that uses data that I have. If it wasnt draining battery it wouldnt be at the top and reduce the battery of whoever is affected by it from what Ive seen. It may not be affecting you but it IS a known case out there from what Ive seen in EVERY ROM thread.
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If it's at the top of the list under "Network usage", that is not an issue. Pretty much any rooted kernel will display this process "0'" as the highest network user. Now if the bar is solid red, and your "Running" percentage is near or at 100%, then you have a problem. As long as it's not causing a wakelock, there is no cause for alarm.
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All those services are using a bit of battery which amounts to a total of more than any other app that uses data that I have. If it wasnt draining battery it wouldnt be at the top and reduce the battery of whoever is affected by it from what Ive seen. It may not be affecting you but it IS a known case out there from what Ive seen in EVERY ROM thread.
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Again, you have NO IDEA how long they are running...it could be 2 minutes. It is just the most used of your network. Lots of things on your Epic use network services but are not listed...because they are lumped into the 0 service. As Matt pointed out, if it is not red, it is not running constantly. Just because you don't know what something is doesn't make it a bug. This is doing exactly what Google meant for it to do, lump unknown (to the OS) network calls into a single UID. TWS was a real bug because it didn't matter whether you had signal or not, it was always 50%. Kswapd0 is a real bug because it is using CPU.
EDIT: The issue was the carrier's fault and not the OS
I found out yesterday that I breached the 5 GB limit of data usage for the month when the carrier completely cut my data connections.
I went to check the reported usage in the system settings and it just shows 687 MB used for the month, the highest usage app is facebook with just a little over 100 MB used.
Now here's some facts:
Running Ditto Note 3 v 3.2 (android 4.3) (based on XXUEMK9) (Baseband: N7100XXUEMJ9)
Never used tethering this month
I always keep 3G off at night and when I'm on WIFI
How do I find out what could have caused all this data usage?
The detailed connections report from the carrier will come in 2 months so I can't know anything yet from that, I'd like to try and figure out something now.
I will be getting a data plan upgrade that will allow me 500 more MB for the month but I'm afraid that if I don't do something fast I might end up wasting all the data again, for now I'm planning of clean flashing the newest release of the rom but I'd like to know if there is some app that will let me monitor data usage in a more detailed way as it seems the built-in android graph doesn't record this hidden data that was used.
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I found out yesterday that I breached the 5 GB limit of data usage for the month when the carrier completely cut my data connections.
I went to check the reported usage in the system settings and it just shows 687 MB used for the month, the highest usage app is facebook with just a little over 100 MB used.
Now here's some facts:
Running Ditto Note 3 v 3.2 (android 4.3) (based on XXUEMK9) (Baseband: N7100XXUEMJ9)
Never used tethering this month
I always keep 3G off at night and when I'm on WIFI
How do I find out what could have caused all this data usage?
The detailed connections report from the carrier will come in 2 months so I can't know anything yet from that, I'd like to try and figure out something now.
I will be getting a data plan upgrade that will allow me 500 more MB for the month but I'm afraid that if I don't do something fast I might end up wasting all the data again, for now I'm planning of clean flashing the newest release of the rom but I'd like to know if there is some app that will let me monitor data usage in a more detailed way as it seems the built-in android graph doesn't record this hidden data that was used.
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Go to settings > general > accounts then turn of auto sync.
Mufrad said:
Go to settings > general > accounts then turn of auto sync.
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Auto sync is already off actually, I always do it manually (actually forget to do it manually), it should show up in the graph if it the culprit were auto sync
Check to see if photo syncing is enabled, google photo's, picassa etc.
I would also do a malware scan with a decent scanner like ESET.
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Check to see if photo syncing is enabled, google photo's, picassa etc.
I would also do a malware scan with a decent scanner like ESET.
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Photo syncinc is disabled, ESET found nothing.
try another SIM card if the same happen again. if not, there is something with operator.
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try another SIM card if the same happen again. if not, there is something with operator.
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The operator confirmed that the 5 GB have been used, I must wait 2 months to obtain detailed reports though.
Still, something has to have happened on the phone, if it's the operator I have no way of proving it.
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The operator confirmed that the 5 GB have been used, I must wait 2 months to obtain detailed reports though.
Still, something has to have happened on the phone, if it's the operator I have no way of proving it.
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Maybe they have to prove the data is consumed by you.
Try to shut off the phone and remove the battery all night for a few days.
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Photo syncinc is disabled, ESET found nothing.
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Install a network monitoring app so you know exactly what is using what.
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Install a network monitoring app so you know exactly what is using what.
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Would they pick what the system graph wouldn't though?
I don't know how they are made, what if they just use the same data?
Can anyone confirm this?
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Would they pick what the system graph wouldn't though?
I don't know how they are made, what if they just use the same data?
Can anyone confirm this?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobidia.android.mdm this app will tell you how much data you've used each day and whether it was wifi or mobile plan also give a detailed usage of each app data consumption and this doesn't register the same as what our phone does,it works independently,i've used this app when i was on ICS when detailed data consumption wasn't availble in ICS and then checking my carrier's consumption bill there were only 4-5 mb differences between what the app had registered and what the carrier had. install this for the time being till your month renews and starting the next billing cycle you'll have a better idea about your monthly usage
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobidia.android.mdm this app will tell you how much data you've used each day and whether it was wifi or mobile plan also give a detailed usage of each app data consumption and this doesn't register the same as what our phone does,it works independently,i've used this app when i was on ICS when detailed data consumption wasn't availble in ICS and then checking my carrier's consumption bill there were only 4-5 mb differences between what the app had registered and what the carrier had. install this for the time being till your month renews and starting the next billing cycle you'll have a better idea about your monthly usage
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Thanks for the suggestion!
Turns out that it was all the carrier's fault because it happened to several people at the same time, I was just the first to report it so they didn't know about it.
In the end there was nothing with the ROM, the data the system reported was exactly what I used, no more no less.
Not sure if anyone else is experiencing this or not.... But I am experiencing two major problems with my phone:
1) It periodically just drops wifi. I have great signal strength and none of my other devices (and I have a lot) ever behave this way. And I have seen it happen on other wifi spots as well.
2) This one is even worse. I am not able to get more than about 9-10 hours on a charge. Not using the phone *at all*. When I checked what was using the battery power all I saw was normal google stuff, no app itself directly consuming
Mine is a brand new verizon phone.
anyone else experience these? Worth seeing if I can get verizon (or LG) to replace the phone?
Factory reset and if that doesn't work, exchange for sure.
tourbound129 said:
Factory reset and if that doesn't work, exchange for sure.
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Thanks. Seems better after doing that.
I left it overnight for 12 hours, down only 14%
RedBullet said:
Thanks. Seems better after doing that.
I left it overnight for 12 hours, down only 14%
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I disabled all the Verizon apps, including DT Ignite. I have not activated the phone yet (waiting for root or Helium to work), and now the battery usage graph has almost flatlined when not in use.
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I disabled all the Verizon apps, including DT Ignite. I have not activated the phone yet (waiting for root or Helium to work), and now the battery usage graph has almost flatlined when not in use.
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Yea, I haven't touched any of the VZW apps. That's the first thing I will be looking for is a debloated ROM (no VZW stuff and a lot less LG stuff)
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Yea, I haven't touched any of the VZW apps. That's the first thing I will be looking for is a debloated ROM (no VZW stuff and a lot less LG stuff)
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Just an update after disabling VZW apps, 22 hours, 17% battery drain. This is on a non activated phone, WIFI on, minimal use). Not a great metric, but much better than with them enabled.
icecold23 said:
Just an update after disabling VZW apps, 22 hours, 17% battery drain. This is on a non activated phone, WIFI on, minimal use). Not a great metric, but much better than with them enabled.
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Out of curiosity how did you "disable" verizon apps?
I'm on AT&T, and I'm also having similar WiFi issues.
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Out of curiosity how did you "disable" verizon apps?
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Application Manager. Scroll over to "ALL" tab. Click on the individual apps. It should have the option to Disable near the top. Those apps will be moved to the Disabled tab if you should ever want to enable them in the future.
I always factory reset after leaving a store because their first priority is to get the phone into a usable state and they bypass the Google login to start syncing my information.
The first thing I install is Nova Launcher. To disable Apps, I just click and drag to the desktop for "system info" then uncheck "Show Notification", click "Force Stop", then "Disable".
I just clear out the crap out the App launcher. I haven't gone in through Settings > App Manager and disabled any services or background apps.
I've also had (and still have WiFi issues). Just got my phone replaced today from T-Mobile and my WiFi has intermittently cut out a couple times today already. Perhaps its something that will require a software update to fix.
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I disabled all the Verizon apps, including DT Ignite. I have not activated the phone yet (waiting for root or Helium to work), and now the battery usage graph has almost flatlined when not in use.
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What is "DT Ignite" anyway???
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What is "DT Ignite" anyway???
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If I'm understanding the articles, it is an app so carriers can install Bloatware after your purchase. Even after a factory reset. The good, the bloatware doesn't have to be installed and part of the factory ROM. The bad, everything else...
According to a post on Reddit, the small update on ATT was to fix 5ghz Wi-Fi issues. Hopefully all carriers push it.
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According to a post on Reddit, the small update on ATT was to fix 5ghz Wi-Fi issues. Hopefully all carriers push it.
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It didn't. Not for me, anyway.
Eric618 said:
It didn't. Not for me, anyway.
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Did it fix anything? Lol
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Did it fix anything? Lol
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I noticed no changes to anything following the update. I have no idea what it did! Lol
On VZW I do not have any issue with WiFi, I do however have not so great battery life. I did disable all the useless items I can. I get about 9-10 hours with 1-1.5 hours SOT. Guess it's OK, but would have liked to get more of what others are reporting (3+ hours SOT).
Coming from the G3 on 23C, I did notice that my battery time did drop a bit, so it's not far off of what I had, not going to return the device, just going to deal with it for now.
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On VZW I do not have any issue with WiFi, I do however have not so great battery life. I did disable all the useless items I can. I get about 9-10 hours with 1-1.5 hours SOT. Guess it's OK, but would have liked to get more of what others are reporting (3+ hours SOT).
Coming from the G3 on 23C, I did notice that my battery time did drop a bit, so it's not far off of what I had, not going to return the device, just going to deal with it for now.
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Yea, I'm in the same boat. Not sure exactly what to do. I can return it and get an S6 which I hear is faster and has much better battery life. Or I can stick with it and hope a patch fixes or that it gets unlocked and we can run something else...
Oh and another thing, has anyone tried to recondition the battery?