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wmp today plugin

extracted from the jasjar 3.2 rom for all non imate users....and something extra...

Thank you very much fallenczar!!! Works great!!! Finally!!!

Another point for Microsoft Media Player
Why doesn't TCPMP come up with a TodayScreen Item.
TCPMP hasn't released a new verion for a long time, maybe they quit.
I also read somewhere that in Media Player, you can view movies full screen finally.
Do we still need TCPMP ?

tcmp
tcmp is releasing a full paid and unpaid (v1) player on 16th of oct.
keep a eye on <http://coreplayer.corecodec.org/>
cheers

Yes, I just upgraded to the AKU 3.2 and the WMP now displays video full screen. I noticed also, the video quality is smoother (I believe, from my experience) than using TCPMP. Since my upgrade to AKU 3.2, I have not find any reason to install TCPMP yet so far.

fallenczar said:
extracted from the jasjar 3.2 rom for all non imate users....and something extra...
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By the way, can we get a screenshot?

sharky48 said:
By the way, can we get a screenshot?
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as strange at is may sound i dont have it installed...

wILL THIS WORK ON AN 8125?

It should work
Heres a screenshot

vbguru613 said:
It should work
Heres a screenshot
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Thnx for the screenshot. It looks great.
I'm not sure if I'll use this one, or the one in SP Pocket Plus.

fallenczar said:
extracted from the jasjar 3.2 rom for all non imate users....and something extra...
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thanks you soooo much.

I had it, and got rid of it, it sucked my ram dry, I literally watched it go from 20mb to 3mb in a matter of minutes. perhaps the installation method.
also i dont find it any more functional at all than the SPB, and SPB takes up less today screen space.
Other experiences? does anybody else find it more functional, useful and more stable than not using it at all, or compared to the SPB plugin.

simon_darley said:
I had it, and got rid of it, it sucked my ram dry, I literally watched it go from 20mb to 3mb in a matter of minutes. perhaps the installation method.
also i dont find it any more functional at all than the SPB, and SPB takes up less today screen space.
Other experiences? does anybody else find it more functional, useful and more stable than not using it at all, or compared to the SPB plugin.
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I tried both, the official WM Plug-in occupies less memory (175KB), SPB plug-in takes 475 KB. Plus, the official plug-in you can use the arrow keys to control the play, stop, fast forward, etc... buttons. SPB does not.

i didnt like spb except for the volume control. i use the official one all the time.

Thank you very much. This plugin work fine on my ASUS P535 WM5
I have tried to install SPBToPlay (freeware) before but it not work on WM5

thank you.......................

Does anyone know if there is a way to enlarge the controls to more 'finger-friendly' size? I would love to, but I don't know which file contains the images to enlarge, or what to open it with.

6.1 Web Browser !!!!!!

I am just looking for the cad of the new wimdows mobile 6.1 internet browser
If anyone has it can they please post it..

I messed with trying to extract it.....but I really don't know what i'm doing yet... It looks like ie and sms should be possible.... Hopefully someone figures it out. I gave up....
Chris

So far I think it might still be buggy though. I've tried 3 different 6.1 Roms (PDAViet, Schaps, Pays) and the IE runs much slower than 6.0, enough to where I'm switching back to 6.0.

irockash said:
So far I think it might still be buggy though. I've tried 3 different 6.1 Roms (PDAViet, Schaps, Pays) and the IE runs much slower than 6.0, enough to where I'm switching back to 6.0.
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can't confirm that :/

irockash said:
So far I think it might still be buggy though. I've tried 3 different 6.1 Roms (PDAViet, Schaps, Pays) and the IE runs much slower than 6.0, enough to where I'm switching back to 6.0.
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I can confirm this. 6.1 is VERY slow. The ONLY added feature is the Zoom feature and it is extremely laggy. Multiple times when zooming out a web page it would take 10-15 seconds... long enough that I thought the phone was frozen.

irockash said:
So far I think it might still be buggy though. I've tried 3 different 6.1 Roms (PDAViet, Schaps, Pays) and the IE runs much slower than 6.0, enough to where I'm switching back to 6.0.
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Have you tried Shadow 2.0 TE? I'm using this rom for the past 48 hours, looks pretty stable and fast!

greatbal said:
Have you tried Shadow 2.0 TE? I'm using this rom for the past 48 hours, looks pretty stable and fast!
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Second that, I am impressed by how much faster IE 6.1 is compared to 6.0. It is actually usable now!

Wow, makes me want to flash again... after going back to 6.0 last night.

I;m using Schaps 6.1 and no problems with the IE here. After I figured out which programs were compatible with 6.1, that is.
Jim

Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
I;m using Schaps 6.1 and no problems with the IE here. After I figured out which programs were compatible with 6.1, that is.
Jim
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What programs did you find were not compatible?

ljinsane said:
What programs did you find were not compatible?
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ePocrates (medical software)--required hard reset d/t looping reset; this blows as I am a paramedic and the database was awesome tool to have;
Mobireader--didn't loop reset but it would hang and needed soft reset and the remove it from programs--also blows as I have several ebooks in mobireader format
quickmenu--locks up the system and slows it down horribly--would have been a cool replacement for the menu though
SPB Phone Suite--hard reset the phone without me having to touch the button ;-)...that was nice; not really losing alot of functionality but the call filter and voice mail counter was nice--most irritating because I paid for it and can't use it now
IM+ -- loads fine but when you try to connect, it closes the window out and you can't connect...not really important as I'm not an IM junkie *anymore*
Might be more but thats all I can remember for now.
Jim

Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
ePocrates (medical software)--required hard reset d/t looping reset; this blows as I am a paramedic and the database was awesome tool to have;
Mobireader--didn't loop reset but it would hang and needed soft reset and the remove it from programs--also blows as I have several ebooks in mobireader format
quickmenu--locks up the system and slows it down horribly--would have been a cool replacement for the menu though
SPB Phone Suite--hard reset the phone without me having to touch the button ;-)...that was nice; not really losing alot of functionality but the call filter and voice mail counter was nice--most irritating because I paid for it and can't use it now
IM+ -- loads fine but when you try to connect, it closes the window out and you can't connect...not really important as I'm not an IM junkie *anymore*
Might be more but thats all I can remember for now.
Jim
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Thanks for the reply

Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
ePocrates (medical software)--required hard reset d/t looping reset; this blows as I am a paramedic and the database was awesome tool to have;
Mobireader--didn't loop reset but it would hang and needed soft reset and the remove it from programs--also blows as I have several ebooks in mobireader format
quickmenu--locks up the system and slows it down horribly--would have been a cool replacement for the menu though
SPB Phone Suite--hard reset the phone without me having to touch the button ;-)...that was nice; not really losing alot of functionality but the call filter and voice mail counter was nice--most irritating because I paid for it and can't use it now
IM+ -- loads fine but when you try to connect, it closes the window out and you can't connect...not really important as I'm not an IM junkie *anymore*
Might be more but thats all I can remember for now.
Jim
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Mobireader works for me on Black Shadow.

Deivy70 said:
I am just looking for the cad of the new wimdows mobile 6.1 internet browser . If anyone has it can they please post it..
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here's a pie6.1 cab over in the General Forum...not sure if it works but check out the thread posts for details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365004

shandar said:
Mobireader works for me on Black Shadow.
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Thanks for letting me know, but we're talking about IE 6.1, in WM 6.1, not 6.0.
Jim

galaxys said:
here's a pie6.1 cab over in the General Forum...not sure if it works but check out the thread posts for details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365004
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worked for me!!!! on my 8525

Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
Thanks for letting me know, but we're talking about IE 6.1, in WM 6.1, not 6.0.
Jim
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That was common with all the 6.1 ROMS, not just that program. I knows PAYs Rom fixed whatever was causing it, haven't flashed back to 6.1.

Is there anything totally new in 6.1 that makes a good reason to update?
At the moment I'm using Schap's 3.54b german ROM... don't like to have to deal with english on the phone...
So the IE got a new feature, zooming? Like the opera-browser rendering the website in the original resolution and zooming in? Or how does it work? I really miss a search function, if I remember right there isn't one in the Opera browser, too. The zooming in Opera is good, though, even if I like the Iphone-browser more, specially with the multitouch-gestures.. but it lacks UMTS and a working keyboard, so I don't give my TyTN out of my hand!
Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
IM+ -- loads fine but when you try to connect, it closes the window out and you can't connect...not really important as I'm not an IM junkie *anymore*
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Anymore? Did you found a better free tool for that? I did like the Uploadfeature for photos (also if I don't know what they do with the uploaded data...) of Agile Messenger. But they suck if they want 50$ for it. For my old nokia 3650 they took only 19EURO for the client...
I did try Fring, IM+ and the old official ICQ-PDA beta, too. But all are not stable or not really userfreandly. AgileMobile was the only one that did fit my needs nearly, but they want too much money.
kind regards
edit: oh and by the way: I installed the cab, it works so far... but where is the zoom-function and how does it work? I only find a "high resolution" in the view-menu, but if I click on it nothing happens...? I installed it to the memorycard and to the devicememory, too. No difference.

Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
ePocrates (medical software)--required hard reset d/t looping reset; this blows as I am a paramedic and the database was awesome tool to have;
IM+ -- loads fine but when you try to connect, it closes the window out and you can't connect...not really important as I'm not an IM junkie *anymore*
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ePocrates seams to run fine on CRCs 6.1 release 6
I am running IM+ 2.4.3 on CRCs wm6.1 release 6 with no problems. I use yahoo and jabber.
I must have gotten lucky

lunchboxrts said:
ePocrates seams to run fine on CRCs 6.1 release 6
I am running IM+ 2.4.3 on CRCs wm6.1 release 6 with no problems. I use yahoo and jabber.
I must have gotten lucky
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me too, running IM+ on CRC WM6.1 r6. no issues at all.

Change from WM6 t WM6.1 - advantages?

Hi everybody
I have the main question - what are the main advantages of WM6.1 comparing to WM6.0.
Is WM6.1 worth enought for change if we says about so many mystakes in it?
Sorry fo my english.
Bigfoot

I'm interested too, and what about Battery usage & Speed (memory usage) ?
thanks

There´s quite a few threads with the same question and the answer is usually the same....Try the roms out.
To me is kind of rude when someone says"this one is better than that one" or stuff like that,because these rom cooks are using their time just for us and they don´t deserve those comparisons.....so like I said give different roms a shot and compare yourself.

bigfoot said:
Hi everybody
I have the main question - what are the main advantages of WM6.1 comparing to WM6.0.
Is WM6.1 worth enought for change if we says about so many mystakes in it?
Sorry fo my english.
Bigfoot
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WM 6.1. can be managed from System Center Mobile Device Center (see http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/mobile/default.mspx). Thta's a big advantage for the large compagnies
The bluetooth pairing doesn't need the password 0000 toggled in.
Memory & battery usage are still the same.

Going back to WM6
bigfoot said:
Hi everybody
I have the main question - what are the main advantages of WM6.1 comparing to WM6.0.
Is WM6.1 worth enought for change if we says about so many mystakes in it?
Sorry fo my english.
Bigfoot
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After many efforts to work with WM6.1 and with my apps I finally gave up: for the indevidual (and not companies) there still many bugs comparing to the stable WM6: annoying soft-reset, many apps are well integraded with WM6.1 etc.
Sorry, but I do not see how WM6.1 is better than WM6.

but are any of the roms real 6.1...or just lookie likey?????

i have been using PDAVIET 3.08.61.29WWE and it is excellent. I have many apps loaded and have not encountered a single problem. This rom is blazing fast and supports everything i have thrown at. 6.1 has been perfect for me i dont have any problems as i read. i literally install 1 to 2 apps per day and not a single issue. before this i was using FInixNOver WM6.1 and same thing not a single problem.

in fact, i was looking for WM6.1 because i wanted a new GUI ... but microsoft appears to be as same as always ... just sells us old **** that hadn't changed since Windows Mobile 2003 ... poorly unacceptable ... like microsoft ... like always ... i'm just fed up with theses poors OSs, i hope the iPhone2 will get out soon, i will sell my trinity as soon as i can and get this really GOOD device !
there will never be improvements on WM from microsoft for a long time, everyone will have to wait until at least 1 year before seeing the first devices coming with WM7, so i prefer going to a brand that do good human-machine interfaces, and the iPhone is doing really good !
why would we have to stay to WM ?! the iPhone do the Exchange Sync ... i just don't understand anymore microsoft ...

Question about pocket excell and word
I red somewhere that WM 6.1 pocket word and excell documents are in PC full format and for WM6.0 this format is only pocket. Is that true?

To Simkand
Hi
Iphone ? ha ha ha ha
It's so buggy and you need itunes to use it .......
If you want another interface, try ifonz or another one available here
I use now WM6.1 on 3 devices : a trinity, a blue angel and a smartphone : so far so good
And I am not a big fan of Bill !

iPhone
I bought two 8 Gig iPhones the first day they came out. One for myself, and one for my wife. The very next day, I returned mine (10% return charge).
My wife loves it because it's VERY simple to use, and you cannot mess things up easily. But for me, you have to HACK the PISS out of it to get it to do ANYTHING! It's network is dog slow, no MMS, no GPS, no SD slot, no programs to install, (untill I hacked it), it crashes more often than my WM6 devices, JOBS Locks it down every chance he gets, iTunes SUCKS and crashes Windows! I will admit, the screen and the multi-touch is impressive! It makes a GREAT iPod, but a usable communications tool, it's not.
Even with all the hacks on it, it still does not compare to WM6. WM has litterally thousands of software programs you can use freely for just about anything. I'm sure in time, the iPhone will get closer, but for now, not for me.
My biggest pet peeve was the fact that my appointments would not show up on the main screen when I first turn it on. That's something I insist on with my WM phone.
If you want a great TOY with a fantastic screen, then it's fine.

i think differences are only little.. part of it is the sms system. 6.1 transform sms system into some kind of a chat window. well this is quite good considering it is easier to read the history messages

simkard said:
in fact, i was looking for WM6.1 because i wanted a new GUI ...
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Why not trying the new SPB Mobile Shell 2.0?
I am very happy with this.

I apologize for getting side tracked.
iPhone does have a great GUI, it's just locked down making it hard to modify, at least for now.
You are right, WM 6.1 GUI is basically the same. Thanks Bill!
WM 6.1 adds the threaded SMS as mentioned before. It IS slower, but I prefer this layout.
The task manager now shows a LOT more information including running processes, memory consumption, & CPU consumption.
I'm not having any of the problems reported by other users (ie: program incompatibilities, crashes, bluetooth, activesync, etc...), so it's MUCH quicker running on my phone.
Bluetooth is Much more reliable, and simple to hook up (0000 is automatic).
Browsing in File Explorer is Much Quicker.
It might just be me, but my speaker phone seems a bit louder.
Managed Programs as mentioned by Stingray66.
Wireless Lan seems to have less trouble for me. Stays connected without having to set it up constantly.
Just my experiences.

6.1 is perfect for my Trinity, RAM memory avalaible about 25 Mb, A2DP is perfect and direct, without password, multitasking in best way.-
I don´t like the easy touch interface, but in fact, with SPB pocket plus interface is working perfect and with your own custom interface.-
I can see youtube and flash videos, no problem with video and audio files and 100% compatible with Corecodec media player.-
In my own opinion is the best OS for my trinity.-
Thanks Landy.-

cecrops said:
i have been using PDAVIET 3.08.61.29WWE and it is excellent. I have many apps loaded and have not encountered a single problem. This rom is blazing fast and supports everything i have thrown at. 6.1 has been perfect for me i dont have any problems as i read. i literally install 1 to 2 apps per day and not a single issue. before this i was using FInixNOver WM6.1 and same thing not a single problem.
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I agree and .NET 3.5 can be added too. With the tool of Modaco (.NET Configuration) it's possible to switch between .NET versions and even configure the version for each application.

simkard said:
in fact, i was looking for WM6.1 because i wanted a new GUI ... but microsoft appears to be as same as always ... just sells us old **** that hadn't changed since Windows Mobile 2003 ... poorly unacceptable ... like microsoft ... like always ... i'm just fed up with theses poors OSs, i hope the iPhone2 will get out soon, i will sell my trinity as soon as i can and get this really GOOD device !
there will never be improvements on WM from microsoft for a long time, everyone will have to wait until at least 1 year before seeing the first devices coming with WM7, so i prefer going to a brand that do good human-machine interfaces, and the iPhone is doing really good !
why would we have to stay to WM ?! the iPhone do the Exchange Sync ... i just don't understand anymore microsoft ...
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Microsoft Mobile NOOB, too much alcohol or just talking bull****?
Ignore this guy ....

bigfoot said:
I red somewhere that WM 6.1 pocket word and excell documents are in PC full format and for WM6.0 this format is only pocket. Is that true?
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No, WM6 can have integrated Office 6.1 too.

mbon said:
i think differences are only little.. part of it is the sms system. 6.1 transform sms system into some kind of a chat window. well this is quite good considering it is easier to read the history messages
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Yep, threaded SMS ... another advantage of WM 6.1

Hi.
What are you all talking about. There is no official WM6.1 for Trinity, all this ROM - is home made. This is just vinaigrette, mess of different ROM, as well as WM6.

TPII with SPB MobileShell

I have to say, I persevered with TouchFlo but after putting the superior MobileShell on it's clear HTC have a long way to go before getting it right.
The front screen is just such a waste of space, if you could at least configure it to display mails, calls and a couple of shortcuts I'd be happier. If I want to know the time, I look at my watch!
So if anyone is new to TouchFlo and new to MobileShell then give it a try just to compare, you don't have to stick with TouchFlo at the end of the day.
Added bonus is that most of the apps and extra skinning still work without the today plugin enabled so it still looks pretty.

i tried and took out the SPB MS 3.0... have iswith my contact mgr.. i am back to touch flow

i switched from touchflo to spb mobile shell and im loving it! so much better than touch flo for me, i can actually get to my messages etc with a few less clicks!

I really like Spb MobileShell. Nomore TouchFlo for me.

i went with spb as well but changed back to touch flo. Touch flo has much mroe information readily available without needing to launch any addition apps. it is very functional. spb isnt bad but lacks some of the data i am looking for. If i didn't have touch flo i would certainly consider spb as a primary interface. defiantly worth a try for those who have yet to give it a go.

I works pretty well on my TP2.
I do prefer Touch Flo 3D2 because i really don't use the functions on Mobile Shell.

I was usin an iphone for the past 2 years.. ( since it came out )
when i saw the Tp2 i was really impressed
and decided to change...
never used a WM device before.. never had a smartphone before
besides the iphone.. so im kinda new on all of this...
when i saw the starting menu.. i was really surprise in a bad way..
being used to have all the app right there ( iphone )
and now having the touch flow... it was pretty awkward
for me, same day of having the TP2 i was lookin for cool apps
and found SPB.. and from there.. i never went back to touchflow!
im so happy usin the SPB

For those of you who are trying the phone with both TouchFlo, and without it, can you tell us how much RAM is available after a soft reset in both cases?
Thanks!

i was not sure wich memory i was supose to
tell you so heres both
Storage Total 277.60mb Free 71.35
and Program Total 187.61mb
free 86.99mb
this is usin SPB shell and after doin softreset.
im guessin the one u want is the second one..
wich is the one that uses the RAM...

Wow! If there's only 87Mb left, out of 288Mb RAM total, something is taking up a whole lot of memory. Could you try it again, after enabling the TouchFlo Today plugin, and disabling SpB?
Of course, none of this is critical if in fact the phone can run a half dozen apps or so, along with your favorite GUI, whether it be TouchFlo, or SpB, or SBSH. My iPaq gets down to about 40Mb free, out of 128Mb, and it doesn't seem to hinder it in any way. I use the SBSH interfaces on it. It runs WinMo 6.0 Classic.
Have you noticed whether or not the phone is as prone to memory leaks as other WinMo devices are? It wouldn't be the phone's fault if it were, it's more about WinMo than the hardware methinks.
Thanks for the reply!

yups, memory leak seems prevalent here. i only have the default programs running and available RAM drops to about 80+MB.

freeway4you said:
i was not sure wich memory i was supose to
tell you so heres both
Storage Total 277.60mb Free 71.35
and Program Total 187.61mb
free 86.99mb
this is usin SPB shell and after doin softreset.
im guessin the one u want is the second one..
wich is the one that uses the RAM...
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Isn't that storage capacity?
Try to soft reset and click on the topright icon and see what percentage it says.

The main issue I had with MS3 was the fact it can't interact with the bluetooth, so I'm sticking with TF3D until SPB can get MS3 fully compatuible with the TP2 (would be unfair to expect them to have it compatible at launch since they haven't had the phone for long enough to iron out the bugs!).

can you please post some SPB Mobile Shell 3 screenshots?

thedudelasse said:
I works pretty well on my TP2.
I do prefer Touch Flo 3D2 because i really don't use the functions on Mobile Shell.
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Hey, your vid-review of the pro 2 is great !!!
I order one and I hope that I get my pro 2 this week I like the touchflow more than the win 6.5 home screen on my kaiser, must test the touchflo on the toch pro 2.
greetings from Berlin

vdKarel said:
Isn't that storage capacity?
Try to soft reset and click on the topright icon and see what percentage it says.
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yea thats what i did..
the second one i gave is the RAM not the Storage capacity.
hehe

hi
i HAVE O2 xda oRBIT, i mafacing a problem with it now, when i start the phone the windows is booting and the volume control come ups and then the phone hangs, i tried reseting and tried by removing batery nothing helped me.
can any one help me on this please.
thanks

baradhan said:
hi
i HAVE O2 xda oRBIT, i mafacing a problem with it now, when i start the phone the windows is booting and the volume control come ups and then the phone hangs, i tried reseting and tried by removing batery nothing helped me.
can any one help me on this please.
thanks
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Did this problem start right after you installed SPB Mobile Shell?

freeway4you said:
yea thats what i did..
the second one i gave is the RAM not the Storage capacity.
hehe
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Oh, lol,
Well, I got just TouchFlo3D and I have just a little more right after softreset.
Total: 188.21 MB
Free: 92.61

Switched to Mobile Shell as well because it offers much more individual editing of the screens, but I really miss the contacts and the SMS/MMS interface from TF3D.
Does anyone have a good recommendation?

T-mobile wm 6.5 memory usage.

Hey everyone.
Earlier today I switched to T-mobiles windows mobile 6.5 rom.
And since then I noticed my used memory slowly went up as I used programs and closed then.
On 6.1 (t-mobile rom) after start up I was at 56% which after a few days of use maybe went up to 60-65% tops.
On 6.5 I start with the same number, however as I use programs and close them, only a part of the used memory seems to clear up.
Right now after using 7 different programs, which I used to use on 6.1 I'm at 74% memory in use.
I've tried the memory cleaner from the rhodium software thread, which does free up some memory, 74% to 71%. However this just seems wrong in my eyes.
So does anyone have a explanation?

Prozzeh said:
Hey everyone.
Earlier today I switched to T-mobiles windows mobile 6.5 rom.
And since then I noticed my used memory slowly went up as I used programs and closed then.
On 6.1 (t-mobile rom) after start up I was at 56% which after a few days of use maybe went up to 60-65% tops.
On 6.5 I start with the same number, however as I use programs and close them, only a part of the used memory seems to clear up.
Right now after using 7 different programs, which I used to use on 6.1 I'm at 74% memory in use.
I've tried the memory cleaner from the rhodium software thread, which does free up some memory, 74% to 71%. However this just seems wrong in my eyes.
So does anyone have a explanation?
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Where did you get a T-Mobile version of WM6.5? Is that the generic HTC-released WM6.5?

The one released by T-mobile, found here.
http://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/htdocs/page/service-contact/software-updates/mda.aspx
It's their official 6.5 release.

so its for T-Mobile Neatherlands & not T-Mobile US. I'm thinking that's what MCbrian thought you had

The explanation is pretty simple
6.5 eats a lot more memory than 6.1
If you are not satisfied with the RAM eating 6.5 go back to 6.1
Or try disable manila or titanium and you´ll get more free RAM

Prozzeh said:
The one released by T-mobile, found here.
http://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/htdocs/page/service-contact/software-updates/mda.aspx
It's their official 6.5 release.
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xnifex said:
so its for T-Mobile Neatherlands & not T-Mobile US. I'm thinking that's what MCbrian thought you had
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Yes, that's what I thought...though I know that TmoUSA is just the poor cousin of Euro-Tmo
It is helpful when posters list their location and carrier in their profile/ID...but that's a personal choice.

You mean Microsoft have released software that hogs as much resource as possible ?
That's got to be a first.

So judging from what Orb3000 and dik23 said, It's perfectly normal for WM6.5 to display more memory used as more programs are used and shut down, while in the same situation 6.1 clears out the memory just fine.
Yeah, sorry, I just don't buy that at all.
Does anyone else have similar issues regarding this?
I mean this looks like some sort of memory leak to me.

Surely a memory leak would result in more and more RAM being used without opening any new application. I think you could mean bad memory management ie the OS not removing closed processes from the RAM when they're finished with. And this would only become a problem if new applications failed to start because of that.
What I was saying it's well known Microsoft like to program operating systems that like to hog as much processor time / RAM / storage space / whatever they can get. Stupid way of doing things me thinks

dik23 said:
What I was saying it's well known Microsoft like to program operating systems that like to hog as much processor time / RAM / storage space / whatever they can get. Stupid way of doing things me thinks
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Seems like general Microsoft-bashing is more appropriate on an iPhone or BB board.
This wasn't helpful information at all because it doesn't explain why the OP is having more memory issues than others using same/similar OS, e.g., me.

from what i've gathered from other threads & whatnot, 6.5 has the Push Internet feature on, & it takes up 10MB+ of memory, while TmoUS has it disabled. With the Push Internet enabled, it also has Opera Mobile running in the background at all times eating up more memory.
Right?

MCbrian said:
Seems like general Microsoft-bashing is more appropriate on an iPhone or BB board.
This wasn't helpful information at all because it doesn't explain why the OP is having more memory issues than others using same/similar OS, e.g., me.
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Sorry mate but it happens to be the truth. And you've not heard my iPhone bashing !
Does the lack of RAM cause any real problems apart from confusion ? I mean are you actually running out of RAM when trying to do anything ? I had a Hermes that ran out all the time and it's very annoying when the phone rings and the SatNav app dies.
If it's not actually causing any issue then ignore it. Otherwise you could get an app to clean the RAM out (like should be done by the OS). I think SKTools is a good example but it means that you have a process running and apparently some clever man decided 32 was the maximum number of processes you're allowed.

dik23 said:
Does the lack of RAM cause any real problems apart from confusion ? I mean are you actually running out of RAM when trying to do anything ? I had a Hermes that ran out all the time and it's very annoying when the phone rings and the SatNav app dies.
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Yes, I haven't gotten any real issues so far, but for instance, the youtube player refused to play movies because of the lack of memory
(It's hovering between 82-84% memory used right now, after running basically every application, which as I'll repeat once again, did not happen in 6.1)
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Otherwise you could get an app to clean the RAM out
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As stated in the opening post, I already did that.
Seeing as no one here has any concrete answers or solutions, I'll contact T-mobile and HTC tomorrow and report back here.

Good luck !

orb3000 said:
The explanation is pretty simple
6.5 eats a lot more memory than 6.1
If you are not satisfied with the RAM eating 6.5 go back to 6.1
Or try disable manila or titanium and you´ll get more free RAM
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Hello MCbrian
I read your reply on WM6.5 using up more memory than WM6.1
Wanted to know how I can switch back to WM6.1 or is there a way to control memory usage in 6.5
Nilesh

Prozzeh said:
Hey everyone.
Earlier today I switched to T-mobiles windows mobile 6.5 rom.
And since then I noticed my used memory slowly went up as I used programs and closed then.
On 6.1 (t-mobile rom) after start up I was at 56% which after a few days of use maybe went up to 60-65% tops.
On 6.5 I start with the same number, however as I use programs and close them, only a part of the used memory seems to clear up.
Right now after using 7 different programs, which I used to use on 6.1 I'm at 74% memory in use.
I've tried the memory cleaner from the rhodium software thread, which does free up some memory, 74% to 71%. However this just seems wrong in my eyes.
So does anyone have a explanation?
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Hey Prozzeh, I am facing the same problem. Did you manage to find out the solution. What you done after that.

Hey, just out of interest can anyone here give an indication of 6.5.1 RAM usage ?
I saw an advert for Windows7 whilst in town the other day. It said "Windows7 - Time to get a new PC". Yeah, because my old one won't be able to run it ! Says it all.

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Hey, just out of interest can anyone here give an indication of 6.5.1 RAM usage ?
I saw an advert for Windows7 whilst in town the other day. It said "Windows7 - Time to get a new PC". Yeah, because my old one won't be able to run it ! Says it all.
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And I thought the marketing droids got drunk after they came up with ideas! Whoops!

http://i37.tinypic.com/wv7uqq.jpg
lol