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application to setup hotmail as push mail

i successfully set up my hotmail in my X1, set the sync frequency to As Items Arrive, intending to activate push mail.
but now everytime i have new mail, i am not notified at all, not even showing of the numbers of new mails in the Today Screen.
i still need to manually go Menu > Send/Receive to update my mailbox.
any1 got solution or what application i need install?
thanks

yes: GMAIL lol
This would be a workaround, but it would work.
1. Create a Gmail account.
2. Forward your Hotmail to Gmail.
3. Set up your Gmail so that you can reply using your Hotmail account. (yeah you can do that...nifty eh?)
4. Go to your Outlook on your phone and set up "gmail-sync" as your push mail account to retrieve from. It's in beta right now but is working 100% perfectly on my Kaiser. (I'm in here because I'm getting a SEX1 in a couple days ) I frickin' LOVE IT - it pushes IMMEDIATELY as soon as the mail comes in. Instructions here:
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo
5. Now all your e-mails will be stored to your phone permanently too, instead of the inbox getting wiped every time you send receive, or whenever you have your timing set up for that.
6. Forget about Hotmail and start using Gmail lol. Just kidding...but if you set it up that way, you can still use your Hotmail completely, Gmail will be practically invisible to you. (Or is it the other way around? lol)
Seriously, Google's free push e-mail service is amaaazing. I am LOVING it.

ohhh pls tell me how to fwd mails
in aol /hotmail pls

Syncing frequency to As Items Arrive works perfectly for me.

I confirm that both hotmail and gmail works as a push mail on my XPERIA.
For hotmail, you can just use windows live connection setup and choose/set "as items arrive" and set the time as "always". For gmail, you can use the activesync feature on outlook mobile as have been told by deezy7 above.
Or else, you can use the feature from Emoze service.

hi all.
thanks for ur advices.
i did add my hotmail using the Windows Live program, did set to "as items arrive" and did set for "always"
but nothing ever appear in my pjone for new mail unless i do it manually using "send/receive"
i prefer to use my hotmail acc ley.
any1 pls help mi.
thanks

deezy7 said:
yes: GMAIL lol
This would be a workaround, but it would work.
1. Create a Gmail account.
2. Forward your Hotmail to Gmail.
3. Set up your Gmail so that you can reply using your Hotmail account. (yeah you can do that...nifty eh?)
4. Go to your Outlook on your phone and set up "gmail-sync" as your push mail account to retrieve from. It's in beta right now but is working 100% perfectly on my Kaiser. (I'm in here because I'm getting a SEX1 in a couple days ) I frickin' LOVE IT - it pushes IMMEDIATELY as soon as the mail comes in. Instructions here:
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo
5. Now all your e-mails will be stored to your phone permanently too, instead of the inbox getting wiped every time you send receive, or whenever you have your timing set up for that.
6. Forget about Hotmail and start using Gmail lol. Just kidding...but if you set it up that way, you can still use your Hotmail completely, Gmail will be practically invisible to you. (Or is it the other way around? lol)
Seriously, Google's free push e-mail service is amaaazing. I am LOVING it.
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I just set this up and it works Thank u for an explanation
But I have a question. Now only one of my mail accounts deliver mail. Is there an option to set more e-mail accounts to use push mail feature ?
If so how to do it ?

icbicb said:
Is there an option to set more e-mail accounts to use push mail feature ?
If so how to do it ?
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If you would like to have a free account for push mail service you should try Emoze. I have been playing with Emoze and honestly it helps me much to get my XPERIA have numerous mail account which works as a push mail ....

Ok, I did some workaround, created another gmail account and forwarded all my accounts to that one, and I receiving only that one.
Maybe not the best solution , but I prefer not to use online services like mobipush and such where u leave them your user name and password for each account u have...

As an alternative to Emoze i use Seven Beta. It provides near realtime push on most types of account.

icbicb said:
Ok, I did some workaround, created another gmail account and forwarded all my accounts to that one, and I receiving only that one.
Maybe not the best solution , but I prefer not to use online services like mobipush and such where u leave them your user name and password for each account u have...
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Hey icbicb, in response to your other question as well, my suggestion would have been to do what you already did, which is create another gmail acccount I also prefer not to use any other online services, and was very happy when Google came out with Gmail Sync, since I've already been using my gmail account for five years, and don't have to give out sensitive information to yet another company
To those here using other services, I'd suggest you give Gmail Sync a try. Deedee, I noticed you said that Seven Beta provides you with near realtime push. I've noticed with Gmail Sync, and having my Gmail open at the same time on my pc at work, that Gmail Sync pushes in actual realtime! I'll hear the notification on my phone first before my page refreshes to show me my new e-mail! Also, I should mention that I am using gmail plug-ins to autoupdate the screen when new e-mails come in, and the Gmail sync sends them to my phone simultaneously or even before my page refreshes, thus, I know that it is actual real-time. Just like blackberry's service! I'm in love with it right now
icbicb, I'm glad it's working out for you , loyjwe I hope you are able to give this a try...

it's a good solution, but if i transfert the mail from hotmail to gmail they will be of the hotmail box...
And it's a probleme for me...
do you have a solution for that
(excus me for my bad english)

Big advantage of Seven Beta is that it works for almost all POP3/IMAP email systems and it keeps all the accounts separate so that replies from your PPC keep the correct return address.
I have it working on Gmail x 2, Hotmail and a POP3 account and all four accounts are independant of each other.
I said near real time sync as i didn't want to claim real time in case it wasn't. I rarely use the web interface since starting Seven so haven't been in a position to check. As i tell the BB users at work if you have time to compare the two delivery times then maybe you don't need a BB.

titeloo said:
it's a good solution, but if i transfert the mail from hotmail to gmail they will be of the hotmail box...
And it's a probleme for me...
do you have a solution for that
(excus me for my bad english)
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Hi titeloo...bad english is okay lol, but, I don't really understand what you mean by "they will be of the hotmail box..." need further explanation!!
@Deedee, gmail does that also....so... for example, when you get mail forwarded to your gmail account, if it was originally sent to your hotmail account, when you reply on the phone, it will reply from the hotmail account. Gmail's set up pretty good that way. I believe right now though they have a limit on the number of accounts you can send mail from, not sure if it is 3 or 4. So it's pretty neat that Seven Beta keeps all accounts separate ...btw very nice avatar

Seven is only restricted by the number of accounts that can be set up in WM, think it's 8 in total, that includes your ActiveSync/Exchange and SMS accounts.
Thanks for the compliment. Always prefer to use real piccies for avatars where practical.

Synchronizing

Hello
Tomorrow i'm getting my HTC desire.
I actually want to know what are good programs to synchronize.
I only need an agenda and my hotmail.
Any idea's?
Thanks

It is very good, coming from WinMo, it is really awesome.
I added my Gmail (Calendar, Email, Contacts), and Facebook, plus it syncs weather, stocks etc. with the click of a button

Yea I know but you can't use your hotmail account in Gmail right?
Or am I wrong?

you can set up your gmail to receive your hotmail, create a gmail account then go to settings>accounts, itll receive your hotmail but gets it about 15 minutes later.
Or, you can go onto the normal mail account on the desire which is very good, insert your email address and password and itll configure everything, you can set it how often to check for new emails. Takes 2 seconds

aah sorry, Steve is right. I find it easier to have them all linked through my gmail personally.
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

OK Steve but can I still check my mail on my normal pc?
And what about an agenda?

OK Steve but can I still check my mail on my normal pc?
And what about an agenda?
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It depends how you set it up for which account they go to, but yes you will.
And yes there is an agenda view, its pretty cool cause you get a widget as well as the view in the actual calendar app.
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

you can use either method for your email, i use gmail to read my personal hotmail account because i prefer the web version. You can log onto the standard hotmail or your gmail account and view the emails, so thats down to preference.
For the agenda, i find google calendar to be the best, however, if you are using outlook, you can download google sync, (just search it), it will upload all your calendar details to google calendar and keep it in sync, that way, you have the best calendar application on your android phone, and it will work with your sense agenda widgets.
hope all that makes sense, its all seemless once set up

Finally got my Desire..
It's a really nice phone..
I don't use outlook, just go to hotmail.com and check my mails..
I just used the normal mail account on the Desire and it works great but now I still need an agenda. When I try to use HTC Synch it always says that I need to use Outlook..
Is that correct or are there other sollutions?
What is the best agenda, the 1 of HTC or the 1 of Android?

Gmail app or mail?

Currently im getting 2 notifications for the same email, the mail app lets me download the attachments i get , i cant seem to do that on the gmail app, just lets me preview the music i get sent and not download it for example.
so basically which of the two is better, can i stop getting two notifications at once, if i remember correctly the gmail app seems to always receive the mail 1st, is there away to download attachments from the gmail app?

If you check out my thread here, there are some problems with both the Gmail application and the Mail application.
If you have to pick one or the other to use exclusively, I would use the Mail application. (ie, can save attachments, can click links, can select text to copy to clipboard, can attach files other than photos)
You can stop getting 2 notifications at once. Do one of the below.
To stop Gmail notification:
Open Gmail application - Press Menu key - Tap "Settings" - Toggle "Email notifications"
To stop Mail notification:
Open Mail application - Press Menu key - Tap "More" - Tap "Notification settings" - Toggle "Email notifications"

you do realise that when you tap preview in the google app, it actually downloads the file anyway, right? well, for some files it does. Pictures are downloaded anyway. i would assume music should be the same.
you should then find it in downloads in the browser....

rhedgehog said:
you do realise that when you tap preview in the google app, it actually downloads the file anyway, right? well, for some files it does. Pictures are downloaded anyway. i would assume music should be the same.
you should then find it in downloads in the browser....
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This does not work for all files though. It annoys me that .zip files and basically every "unknown" format is not available for preview/download through the standard Gmail app. I have been using Gmail in the browser to download these earlier, but if it works in the default Mail program, its a godsent.

I moved ovr to the mail app a few minutes ago, seems more comprehensive BUT I am a bit concerned about battery life as the sync logo in the notification is constantly on ...
Also if I use the Mail app with exchange to do calendar as well do I get the colour coded calendars as I like to know what belongs to what calendar ?

O and O said:
I moved ovr to the mail app a few minutes ago, seems more comprehensive BUT I am a bit concerned about battery life as the sync logo in the notification is constantly on ...
Also if I use the Mail app with exchange to do calendar as well do I get the colour coded calendars as I like to know what belongs to what calendar ?
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It is probably still syncing your mail. Let it be for a while.
I am wondering what uses most battery, Exchange Push from Gmail, or regular Gmail push?
Why would you use Exchange to sync you gCal? You get colour coding by default in the standard gCal sync. I have disabled the autosync of Gmail, and am now using Exchange Push instead.

No raeson for using the gCal to be honest, was just trying to extend battery.
Mail app seems quite comprehensive . I like it just need the bloody sync logo to stop!

Don't need to worry about the sync logo if it's not rotating. It's only actively syncing when it's rotating.

Thanks guys ...
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NEW PROBLEM! I don't seem to get notifications yet they are turned on. Ican't check for sound as I am at work but I don't see anything in the notification bar ... not sure of light though ...

whats the advantages of using the xchange server? i just signed in regularly, and seem to get mail fast no issues, ?
also as google mail does not have a widit i have the normall mail program on one of my home screens, but the normal mail program recives mail once every 15 mins, the google one seems to recive instantly, can i set the htc mail program to get mail the same way google mail does?

You have to set it up as an ActiveSync Exchange account instead of a POP3/IMAP account to get push support
You then go in to the Mail settings and choose Push in the interval settings.

oh ok, is that easy to set up lol?

it keeps sayin authentication error, ami ment to write somthing in "Domain" , its a gmail email

TurkzZ said:
it keeps sayin authentication error, ami ment to write somthing in "Domain" , its a gmail email
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If you are using exchange then it is m.google.com

strange its saying my email or password is wrong lol :S

Back to GMail app ... GOOGLE UPDATE THE BLOODY APP!
The mail aoo is comprehensive but somewhat slow and doesn't update for me ...

O and O said:
Back to GMail app ... GOOGLE UPDATE THE BLOODY APP!
The mail aoo is comprehensive but somewhat slow and doesn't update for me ...
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yh hopfully gmail make a widget and update there app, lol, does anybody else have an issue with active sync? or is it just me

TurkzZ said:
yh hopfully gmail make a widget and update there app, lol, does anybody else have an issue with active sync? or is it just me
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It's just you. I've been syncing with Google's Exchange server ever since my Touch Diamond days. Follow the directions in the following link to the letter.
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299

thanks man, the default server name was wrong, changed it to m.google and it worked thanks bro

should i turn off any gmail app settings to save battery or anything now? , on the settings>sync options i have both the same email on active sync and google syncing, can i turn the good one off?

Mail versus GMail

I want to try using the Mail app instead of the GMail one, but is it actually possible to disable the GMail app without losing all the other functionality you get from logging into your Google account? - there seems to be a unified log in used by GMaps as well, for example. And when I try to remove the account in settings, it says I have to do a factory reset, this seems bonkers to me.

I couldn't manage to get my Google Mail account to sign into the Mail app...

patp said:
I want to try using the Mail app instead of the GMail one, but is it actually possible to disable the GMail app without losing all the other functionality you get from logging into your Google account? - there seems to be a unified log in used by GMaps as well, for example. And when I try to remove the account in settings, it says I have to do a factory reset, this seems bonkers to me.
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Turn off sync for Gmail under Settings->Accounts & sync.
You might also want to switch of notifications in the Gmail app too.
Regards,
Dave

Will the phone sync google mail contacts via imap on the mail app or do I need to stick to the gmail app for that?

foxmeister said:
Turn off sync for Gmail under Settings->Accounts & sync.
You might also want to switch of notifications in the Gmail app too.
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I think you must have a different version from mine. I have
Settings - Accounts& Sync
Background Data (tickbox)
AutoSync (tickbox)
Manage Accounts
Google
Stocks
Weather
If I tick Google I get a new screen:
Sync calendar
Sync contacts
Sync Google Mail
Sync Picassa Web Albums
(These all just trigger a sync)
At the bottom there are 2 buttons, Sync Now and Remove Account.
If I try remove account a box pops up warning that it will delete all the data, I say OK, then another box that says it can't do it, I have to factory reset because it is required by some applications.

I have been using the Google Mail app since I've had my phone, but today came across a problem - I could not copy & paste a tracking # from an email. I then quickly set up my gmail in the Mail app, & was able to perform this action very easily.
So my question is: has anyone used both apps extensively, & could they give me a quick "pro's & cons"?

thebosh said:
So my question is: has anyone used both apps extensively, & could they give me a quick "pro's & cons"?
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Here you go someone has already done that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6175293&postcount=43
The only thing that really annoys me is the fact that your Mail widget does not update the list of emails unless you open the Mail application.
Even if you already updated the email list in your GMail appl.
For example: I receive an email. I get a notification in the notification bar. I open it and it takes me to the Gmail appl (by default). I check my emails, read them, exit the application.
However, my HTCMail Widget (sitting on the desktop) does not show any updates. I have to open the HTCMail manually, sync (again!) and only then can I see the updated list.
Aaaargh!

I've been tempted to move to using the mail application over the gmail one as well.
I think ill setup the mail application with my other gmail account then compare the 2

I much prefer the gmail app. I think its quicker and easier to reply, and it syncs straight away unlike the mail app.
Only downside is the lack of widget, but with the number of apps I have on my homescreens, this isn't an issue.

I always feel it's worth mentioning k9mail at this point, if only because it supports IMAP IDLE.

What do you use, Gmail or HTC Mail?

Well, what do you use?
I use HTC Mail simple because of the home screen widget(hey, its a reason at least) even for my Gmail account(Note, my only account). I have set it as an Exchange mail "As mail arrives(Push)". Hopefully it'll be light at my battery(Theoretically it should, since it won't be repeatedly checking for mails).
What about you?

Somehow I always get 2 notifications (one gmail and one from the htc widget) eventhough I only want the htc one

I use HTC Mail because I think it's much better... especially since I have my hotmail & yahoo mail accounts configured in HTC mail... Another thing I like with HTC mail is that I can go back and read mails offline when I'm not connected to wifi since I don't have an unlimited data plan atm.
Some other things that makes HTC mail better is pinch to zoom, choose between regular or threaded email and much better handling copy / paste / stuff, even though it's implemented in gmail now it's nowhere as good as in HTC mail where selecting text works like a dream.

I use HTC Mail. I like the fact that I can read emails offline. Gmail used to have issues with opening attachments when it was on Eclair but the latest OTA seems to have addressed this issue.

Gmail app for me lol couldn't get on with HTCs mail app

really depends if you prefer pushmail or imap with scheduled retrieve...
I use gmail app as i use gmail as email provider. (but google really does need to stop ****ing around with attachment access, it's kinda ridiculous...)

i use k-9 to have push mail for all accounts.

Dragooon123 said:
Well, what do you use?
I use HTC Mail simple because of the home screen widget(hey, its a reason at least) even for my Gmail account(Note, my only account). I have set it as an Exchange mail "As mail arrives(Push)". Hopefully it'll be light at my battery(Theoretically it should, since it won't be repeatedly checking for mails).
What about you?
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Then try to open an attachment twice its not possible via googlemail+exchange+htcmail... I hate that but its sadly true...

I use HTC Mail for my gmail account using exchange active sync and push, also pretty much just because of the widget. I have noticed that bug with attachments but it doesn't really affect me much.

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k-9 - i think the best , because it is a advancement of g-mail

meo said:
k-9 - i think the best , because it is a advancement of g-mail
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Maybe yes, also ProfiMail seems to be very popular under the "Pro-Users". But i wonder if there will ever be a MailClient with proper GMail/Exchange support AND a usable UI that doesnt look like Windows CE...

Htc mail app. There is widget and push that is all in need.... Somehow attachments are fine for me now could this be latest update?
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Yahoo mail for android, only for yahoo obviously but messages are pushed instantly & when i delete mail its actually deleted, i found with htc mail it would only delete it from my phone, when i signed in online mail was still there.
Sent from my HTC Desire runing Android 2.2 via the XDA App

I had problems with HTC mail, and it used to send 2 mails everytime I send one.
So switched to Gmail app and Yahoo mail for Android app as they both push the mails. Also any deleted mails will be synchronised and removed from the actual accounts.
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HTC Desire still on 2.1

I have disabled Gmail because HTC mail can integrate any mail accounts I use. These include, but aren't limited to Gmail, Exchange and my service provider's primary mail account.
I used to have the Gmail App active as well, but I got really annoyed by the notifications that would pop up two times for my Gmail account. Last but not least I simply like HTC's interface choices, they fit much better into the big picture.

elburna said:
Then try to open an attachment twice its not possible via googlemail+exchange+htcmail... I hate that but its sadly true...
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Attachments work fine for me.

phentex said:
really depends if you prefer pushmail or imap with scheduled retrieve...
I use gmail app as i use gmail as email provider. (but google really does need to stop ****ing around with attachment access, it's kinda ridiculous...)
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Doesn't both got push mail? The HTC Mail does and when I used Gmail it behaved as if it had push mail(Which I believe it does).

Ive been using Both together. Gmail for my personal account and HTC Mail to manage my Exchange Server account for work. Both push and I only get individual notifications, each with their own icon. It works perfectly so I am a bit confused as to what may be causing others issues.

Gmail app for Gmail and HTC Mail for the MS Exchange server. I like the labels support in the Google app but the HTC app is much prettier and more fun to use.
The Gmail interface is very efficient for dealing with lots of email. Faster than the webpage on a desktop, dare I say

Dragooon123 said:
Attachments work fine for me.
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Hmm thats strange. Have been searching for a solution for this for ever. But the second time i try to open attachements the App always says it's corrupt... and many other Users are reporting this... would you mind posting your settings...?
Thx