Gmail app or mail? - Desire General

Currently im getting 2 notifications for the same email, the mail app lets me download the attachments i get , i cant seem to do that on the gmail app, just lets me preview the music i get sent and not download it for example.
so basically which of the two is better, can i stop getting two notifications at once, if i remember correctly the gmail app seems to always receive the mail 1st, is there away to download attachments from the gmail app?

If you check out my thread here, there are some problems with both the Gmail application and the Mail application.
If you have to pick one or the other to use exclusively, I would use the Mail application. (ie, can save attachments, can click links, can select text to copy to clipboard, can attach files other than photos)
You can stop getting 2 notifications at once. Do one of the below.
To stop Gmail notification:
Open Gmail application - Press Menu key - Tap "Settings" - Toggle "Email notifications"
To stop Mail notification:
Open Mail application - Press Menu key - Tap "More" - Tap "Notification settings" - Toggle "Email notifications"

you do realise that when you tap preview in the google app, it actually downloads the file anyway, right? well, for some files it does. Pictures are downloaded anyway. i would assume music should be the same.
you should then find it in downloads in the browser....

rhedgehog said:
you do realise that when you tap preview in the google app, it actually downloads the file anyway, right? well, for some files it does. Pictures are downloaded anyway. i would assume music should be the same.
you should then find it in downloads in the browser....
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This does not work for all files though. It annoys me that .zip files and basically every "unknown" format is not available for preview/download through the standard Gmail app. I have been using Gmail in the browser to download these earlier, but if it works in the default Mail program, its a godsent.

I moved ovr to the mail app a few minutes ago, seems more comprehensive BUT I am a bit concerned about battery life as the sync logo in the notification is constantly on ...
Also if I use the Mail app with exchange to do calendar as well do I get the colour coded calendars as I like to know what belongs to what calendar ?

O and O said:
I moved ovr to the mail app a few minutes ago, seems more comprehensive BUT I am a bit concerned about battery life as the sync logo in the notification is constantly on ...
Also if I use the Mail app with exchange to do calendar as well do I get the colour coded calendars as I like to know what belongs to what calendar ?
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It is probably still syncing your mail. Let it be for a while.
I am wondering what uses most battery, Exchange Push from Gmail, or regular Gmail push?
Why would you use Exchange to sync you gCal? You get colour coding by default in the standard gCal sync. I have disabled the autosync of Gmail, and am now using Exchange Push instead.

No raeson for using the gCal to be honest, was just trying to extend battery.
Mail app seems quite comprehensive . I like it just need the bloody sync logo to stop!

Don't need to worry about the sync logo if it's not rotating. It's only actively syncing when it's rotating.

Thanks guys ...
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NEW PROBLEM! I don't seem to get notifications yet they are turned on. Ican't check for sound as I am at work but I don't see anything in the notification bar ... not sure of light though ...

whats the advantages of using the xchange server? i just signed in regularly, and seem to get mail fast no issues, ?
also as google mail does not have a widit i have the normall mail program on one of my home screens, but the normal mail program recives mail once every 15 mins, the google one seems to recive instantly, can i set the htc mail program to get mail the same way google mail does?

You have to set it up as an ActiveSync Exchange account instead of a POP3/IMAP account to get push support
You then go in to the Mail settings and choose Push in the interval settings.

oh ok, is that easy to set up lol?

it keeps sayin authentication error, ami ment to write somthing in "Domain" , its a gmail email

TurkzZ said:
it keeps sayin authentication error, ami ment to write somthing in "Domain" , its a gmail email
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If you are using exchange then it is m.google.com

strange its saying my email or password is wrong lol :S

Back to GMail app ... GOOGLE UPDATE THE BLOODY APP!
The mail aoo is comprehensive but somewhat slow and doesn't update for me ...

O and O said:
Back to GMail app ... GOOGLE UPDATE THE BLOODY APP!
The mail aoo is comprehensive but somewhat slow and doesn't update for me ...
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yh hopfully gmail make a widget and update there app, lol, does anybody else have an issue with active sync? or is it just me

TurkzZ said:
yh hopfully gmail make a widget and update there app, lol, does anybody else have an issue with active sync? or is it just me
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It's just you. I've been syncing with Google's Exchange server ever since my Touch Diamond days. Follow the directions in the following link to the letter.
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299

thanks man, the default server name was wrong, changed it to m.google and it worked thanks bro

should i turn off any gmail app settings to save battery or anything now? , on the settings>sync options i have both the same email on active sync and google syncing, can i turn the good one off?

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Mail versus GMail

I want to try using the Mail app instead of the GMail one, but is it actually possible to disable the GMail app without losing all the other functionality you get from logging into your Google account? - there seems to be a unified log in used by GMaps as well, for example. And when I try to remove the account in settings, it says I have to do a factory reset, this seems bonkers to me.
I couldn't manage to get my Google Mail account to sign into the Mail app...
patp said:
I want to try using the Mail app instead of the GMail one, but is it actually possible to disable the GMail app without losing all the other functionality you get from logging into your Google account? - there seems to be a unified log in used by GMaps as well, for example. And when I try to remove the account in settings, it says I have to do a factory reset, this seems bonkers to me.
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Turn off sync for Gmail under Settings->Accounts & sync.
You might also want to switch of notifications in the Gmail app too.
Regards,
Dave
Will the phone sync google mail contacts via imap on the mail app or do I need to stick to the gmail app for that?
foxmeister said:
Turn off sync for Gmail under Settings->Accounts & sync.
You might also want to switch of notifications in the Gmail app too.
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I think you must have a different version from mine. I have
Settings - Accounts& Sync
Background Data (tickbox)
AutoSync (tickbox)
Manage Accounts
Google
Stocks
Weather
If I tick Google I get a new screen:
Sync calendar
Sync contacts
Sync Google Mail
Sync Picassa Web Albums
(These all just trigger a sync)
At the bottom there are 2 buttons, Sync Now and Remove Account.
If I try remove account a box pops up warning that it will delete all the data, I say OK, then another box that says it can't do it, I have to factory reset because it is required by some applications.
I have been using the Google Mail app since I've had my phone, but today came across a problem - I could not copy & paste a tracking # from an email. I then quickly set up my gmail in the Mail app, & was able to perform this action very easily.
So my question is: has anyone used both apps extensively, & could they give me a quick "pro's & cons"?
thebosh said:
So my question is: has anyone used both apps extensively, & could they give me a quick "pro's & cons"?
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Here you go someone has already done that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6175293&postcount=43
The only thing that really annoys me is the fact that your Mail widget does not update the list of emails unless you open the Mail application.
Even if you already updated the email list in your GMail appl.
For example: I receive an email. I get a notification in the notification bar. I open it and it takes me to the Gmail appl (by default). I check my emails, read them, exit the application.
However, my HTCMail Widget (sitting on the desktop) does not show any updates. I have to open the HTCMail manually, sync (again!) and only then can I see the updated list.
Aaaargh!
I've been tempted to move to using the mail application over the gmail one as well.
I think ill setup the mail application with my other gmail account then compare the 2
I much prefer the gmail app. I think its quicker and easier to reply, and it syncs straight away unlike the mail app.
Only downside is the lack of widget, but with the number of apps I have on my homescreens, this isn't an issue.
I always feel it's worth mentioning k9mail at this point, if only because it supports IMAP IDLE.

problem sharing URL with gmail

If you click and hold on the address bar in the browser you get the option to share a URL. choose this and then choose to share via GMAIL. it sends fine. however, the mail never gets delivered. Not until you actually go into your gmail app and refresh. Then the mail gets sent/delivered. If you choose to send a link using the MAIL application (hotmail for example) it sends immediately. Is this a HTC problem or a gmail app issue? anyone notice this? I would prefer to share URLs via gmail, but hotmail works and gmail doesn't. not properly anyway.
I've just tried this and it works fine for me - shared a URL via Gmail and it got delivered fine without having to go into Gmail.
Regards,
Dave
Ok I figured this out.
If you click and hold on the browser address bar to share a page, you can share via peep, facebook, gmail, mail, message, etc.
If you choose HTC MAIL widget (usually set up with exchnage or hotmail) it will send out the mail immediatley.
If you choose to use gmail to share the page it gets sent correctly, but it will just sit in your gmail outbox until you either open the gmail app and refresh, or else turn on the sync. Using the HTC MAIL widget does not require you to turn on sync. It just gets sent. Gmail needs the sync turned on to send the mail.
Not a big deal, but it means I'm more likley to use hotmail to share url links via email now, because its quicker, instant, and does not require me to enable sync which is great. I don't need to pull in weather, friendstream, gmail, and everything else. I can just hit "share via mail" send. done.
I guess its a gmail app problem.
mcgon1979 said:
I guess its a gmail app problem.
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If you have sync turned off, it's a problem with the user, not the app!
Regards,
Dave
haha. fair enough Dave.
yeah I suppose I incorrectly expected it to work without sync turned on becuase the hotmail (htc mail widget) does. No biggy.
cheers for the replies.
mcgon1979 said:
haha. fair enough Dave.
yeah I suppose I incorrectly expected it to work without sync turned on becuase the hotmail (htc mail widget) does. No biggy.
cheers for the replies.
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One question though - why do you have sync disabled? If you don't want to sync everything (e.g. twitter/weather), just switch off those individually or change the schedule of those items to something more appropriate.
Regards,
Dave
I suppose the reason I don't normally have sync on is that I used to just do everything manually. i.e. just refresh the weather manually if I looked at it. Or refresh friendstream manually as I looked at it. Or open gmail if I wanted to check it etc. I suppose its a habit to save battery life, but I'll look into it now that you mention it, and maybe just set these things to update once per day etc. Then I can override that manually for each service as required, plus gmail would send instantly if I do it that way. Cheers, I'll have a look at doing that.

[Q] No GMail Notification on Sense 4.0 lockscreen?

I wonder why there is no GMail Notification on the Productivity Lockscreen? Why is there only a notification for the plain Mail Client, but not for GMail?
Am I just blind and can't find the option to activate it, or is it faulty, that means you other guys have GMail notification?
I appreciate any feedback
Probably deliberately missing as HTC use their own Email client
Blame Google, not HTC. Its been ages now but Google changed the Gmail app to improve security and one of the changes is that other apps are no longer able to query to the number of messages unread in Gmail.
Tiersten said:
Blame Google, not HTC. Its been ages now but Google changed the Gmail app to improve security and one of the changes is that other apps are no longer able to query to the number of messages unread in Gmail.
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I thought that was fixed as of Gmail 2.3.6, I believe.
Others apps are able to use that call function (SMS Unread, MissedIt!, etc)
Has anyone had any luck with this? I would love to have my Gtalk and Gmail notifications on the lock screen when I have new messages...
amswak said:
Has anyone had any luck with this? I would love to have my Gtalk and Gmail notifications on the lock screen when I have new messages...
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Only workaround I can think of, off the top of my head would be to install a Lockscreen replacement (WidgetLocker for example) and use an app such as SMS Unread Count OR Missed It! to get those quick counts in there.
I don't know of any app that can give you a quick preview of your unread emails (subject, etc) that's not to say that it doesn't exist; I'm just not aware of one.
can't you just add google mail as one of the accounts within the native app? open the native app and go to menu/new account. you can choose a mail provider, including gmail. don't know if it will run two accounts at once. haven't tried it, and am not using gmail as my main account. so take what i suggest with a grain of salt. good luck.

Samsung eMail App-> Not notifying for Gmail

I am using the Email app from Samsung. I have it synching to both Gmail, and to a Yahoo account. It notifies me for the Yahoo, but not the Gmail.
Now, I had turned off Gmail notification in the Gmail app, as I had gotten dual notifications: one from Gmail, one from Email. But now I find I am not getting notification from the Email app for Gmail, although I do for Yahoo. So, I have turned Gmail notification back on, and I do get notification from it. But of course then in the notification bar, it takes me to Gmail app, and I prefer to use the Email app.
Any suggestions?
ewingr said:
I am using the Email app from Samsung. I have it synching to both Gmail, and to a Yahoo account. It notifies me for the Yahoo, but not the Gmail.
Now, I had turned off Gmail notification in the Gmail app, as I had gotten dual notifications: one from Gmail, one from Email. But now I find I am not getting notification from the Email app for Gmail, although I do for Yahoo. So, I have turned Gmail notification back on, and I do get notification from it. But of course then in the notification bar, it takes me to Gmail app, and I prefer to use the Email app.
Any suggestions?
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Afraid I don't have any suggestions since I've worked all weekend trying to fix the problem. If it's any consolation the yahoo mobile mail update site has dozens of irate comments. Seems as if the new update (around Dec 12) is the culprit. Don't find anything from Yahoo but surely they'll get it fixed before long.
FishDoc said:
Afraid I don't have any suggestions since I've worked all weekend trying to fix the problem. If it's any consolation the yahoo mobile mail update site has dozens of irate comments. Seems as if the new update (around Dec 12) is the culprit. Don't find anything from Yahoo but surely they'll get it fixed before long.
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Hmmm...maybe I didn't write it up clearly. The Yahoo site is notifying fine (again, in the Samsung Email app). Googlel is not.
ewingr said:
Hmmm...maybe I didn't write it up clearly. The Yahoo site is notifying fine (again, in the Samsung Email app). Googlel is not.
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Here's the link. You might be interested to see if anyone else has your specific problem.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yahoo.mobile.client.android.mail&hl=en
For what it's worth. I found a copy of the old yahoo mail apk, uninstalled the current version, installed the old version and it worked perfectly. Unfortunately, yahoo automatically upgraded in less than an hour. Tried it again with the same results. Found out that you cannot stop upgrades. If you have time, I'd like for you to try the old version just to see if your results are the same.
Turn off automatic upgrades?
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What would trying Yahoo have to do with me not receiving notifications from Gmail in the Samsung email app?
ConeyKiller said:
Turn off automatic upgrades?
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I had just done that and posted a note with results back on the yahoo web site before seeing your post. I wasted many hours this past weekend that could have been spent watching football if I had had your insight. Anyhow I appreciate your advice and the following is the note I sent along for other frustrated yahoo users:
A possible temporary fix for Yahoo Mail
I have at least temporarily fixed my non-notification problem with the new update of Yahoo Mail. First I opened google market, uninstalled yahoo mail, while in market I opened menu and unchecked automatic updating. I then downloaded yahoo mail 1.4.5 apk and installed it. This can be found on numerous sites after googling. After signing in I opened the app went to menu and picked the notification procedures I wanted. I'm on a galaxy s3 and so far so good. Seems to be holding.
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ewingr said:
What would trying Yahoo have to do with me not receiving notifications from Gmail in the Samsung email app?
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Don't know for sure but it seems likely that you're seeing a conflict between similar programs. One is probably establishing precedence. I had a number of similar problems this weekend when I was trying to use light flow along with gmail and stock mail and yahoo. When I would get one working the others wouldn't. Finally had stock mail and yahoo working but notification was a sometime thing. I'll be if you reinstall yahoo apk 1.4.5, yahoo will work as a stand alone program and the others will work as expected. Let me know.
FishDoc said:
I had just done that and posted a note with results back on the yahoo web site before seeing your post. I wasted many hours this past weekend that could have been spent watching football if I had had your insight. Anyhow I appreciate your advice and the following is the note I sent along for other frustrated yahoo users:
A possible temporary fix for Yahoo Mail
I have at least temporarily fixed my non-notification problem with the new update of Yahoo Mail. First I opened google market, uninstalled yahoo mail, while in market I opened menu and unchecked automatic updating. I then downloaded yahoo mail 1.4.5 apk and installed it. This can be found on numerous sites after googling. After signing in I opened the app went to menu and picked the notification procedures I wanted. I'm on a galaxy s3 and so far so good. Seems to be holding.
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Don't know for sure but it seems likely that you're seeing a conflict between similar programs. One is probably establishing precedence. I had a number of similar problems this weekend when I was trying to use light flow along with gmail and stock mail and yahoo. When I would get one working the others wouldn't. Finally had stock mail and yahoo working but notification was a sometime thing. I'll be if you reinstall yahoo apk 1.4.5, yahoo will work as a stand alone program and the others will work as expected. Let me know.
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Interesting.
I have two programs: gMail, and eMail. I don't have Yahoo installed. With that theory, it seems adding a third app would add to the problem.
It is interesting that the email app will notify when I receive messages from Yahoo email, but not Gmail.But I think you may be right about some kind of conflict. It's also interesting that when on ICS, both alerted for Gmail. So I would get double notification. So I had turned off notification in Gmail for the inbox, but left it on for a particular folder (I wish the email program would let me set different notifications for different labels, like Gmail will).
I doubt I can uninstall Gmail, but maybe I can. I might try uninstall it and see if I get notifications from the Email one, and then reinstall and see what happens.
OH, by the way, I too have Lifghtflow installed. ANd while writing this post I had my wife send me a test email to my Gmail account. The light came on for LIgfhtwave, but neither app notified. I may just try turning on sounds, etc, and do it all from Lightwave.
Ugh...but then I may still have issues with the other Gmail folder.
I'll keep status posted here.
ewingr said:
Interesting.
I have two programs: gMail, and eMail. I don't have Yahoo installed. With that theory, it seems adding a third app would add to the problem.
It is interesting that the email app will notify when I receive messages from Yahoo email, but not Gmail.But I think you may be right about some kind of conflict. It's also interesting that when on ICS, both alerted for Gmail. So I would get double notification. So I had turned off notification in Gmail for the inbox, but left it on for a particular folder (I wish the email program would let me set different notifications for different labels, like Gmail will).
I doubt I can uninstall Gmail, but maybe I can. I might try uninstall it and see if I get notifications from the Email one, and then reinstall and see what happens.
OH, by the way, I too have Lifghtflow installed. ANd while writing this post I had my wife send me a test email to my Gmail account. The light came on for LIgfhtwave, but neither app notified. I may just try turning on sounds, etc, and do it all from Lightwave.
Ugh...but then I may still have issues with the other Gmail folder. I'll keep status posted here.
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I don't think you can uninstall gmail. However, what I did was to go to settings, then app manager, highlight gmail, delete data, and then force close. That takes it out of commission for awhile and gives you time to try other things. Don't know what brings it back to life after a FC but I know that a reboot does bring it back. I've been messing around with android devices for a few years and it seems that the S3 is the most unforgiving and most demanding of protocol of any yet. But I really do like it.
ewingr said:
I am using the Email app from Samsung. I have it synching to both Gmail, and to a Yahoo account. It notifies me for the Yahoo, but not the Gmail.
Now, I had turned off Gmail notification in the Gmail app, as I had gotten dual notifications: one from Gmail, one from Email. But now I find I am not getting notification from the Email app for Gmail, although I do for Yahoo. So, I have turned Gmail notification back on, and I do get notification from it. But of course then in the notification bar, it takes me to Gmail app, and I prefer to use the Email app.
Any suggestions?
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I have tested some things. My initial setup was no Gmail account in the Samsung Email app, and no sync for Gmail in my Google account's settings.
So I activated auto-sync of Gmail in my Google account's settings on my phone. Then, I added my Gmail account to Email app. I added my Gmail account as an Exchange ActiveSync type account, so it would use push-email (instead of polling with POP3/IMAP).
On my computer, I opened Gmail webmail and sent myself an email.
- Within seconds, Email app rang and showed me a notification in my notifications bar.
- Waited a couple of minutes, but the Gmail app would not show a notification. I went to my Google account's settings and clicked Sync all. Now, Gmail app synced and rang and added a notification in the notification bar.
I guess I was just too impatient and did not wait long enough before Gmail app sync, but the two apps (Gmail and Email) show me notifications. You might want to try configuring your Gmail account as an Exchange account in Email. (What Are the Gmail Exchange ActiveSync Settings?)

Contacts Sync

Just got my Fire Phone a couple of days ago and I knew exactly what I was getting into when I bought it. First thing I did was install Play Store along with all the apks are are important from Google.
But as the title suggests, I am just curious on if there is a way to sync Google Contacts quickly. My Contacts apps syncs fine with my Gmail, but it takes every bit of hour for them to sync. Whereas as when you add a contact in Gmail on the computer they sync immediately with an Android Phone. We have tried the different syncs options on the Fire Phone but to no avail. Just more curious than anything. If there isnt a way, it really doesnt bother me to much instead of being more a nuisance than anything.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
beeson76 said:
Just got my Fire Phone a couple of days ago and I knew exactly what I was getting into when I bought it. First thing I did was install Play Store along with all the apks are are important from Google.
But as the title suggests, I am just curious on if there is a way to sync Google Contacts quickly. My Contacts apps syncs fine with my Gmail, but it takes every bit of hour for them to sync. Whereas as when you add a contact in Gmail on the computer they sync immediately with an Android Phone. We have tried the different syncs options on the Fire Phone but to no avail. Just more curious than anything. If there isnt a way, it really doesnt bother me to much instead of being more a nuisance than anything.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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How did you get them to sync? My contacts app doesnt show any contacts I have on Google. :/
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How did you get them to sync? My contacts app doesnt show any contacts I have on Google. :/
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I had to set up the Fire Email app with my Gmail address to get the contacts & calendar to sync. I actually like the email app more than I thought I would but can't seem to find two critical things:
-Notify once for emails (not every email)
-Different notification sounds for different accounts
Am I missing a setting somewhere?
rjmohit said:
How did you get them to sync? My contacts app doesnt show any contacts I have on Google. :/
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It was pretty automatic for me. I logged in using my gmail account. I will try to help you though but you prolly already have all the correct settings. When you open your email app from the OS (not some installed app from the store), left swipe to get to your settings. In my email app, the only email I have as an account is Gmail. Go to settings in the menu. Bottom option. On next screen click Contacts Settings. From there you have an option to Synchronize contacts. Make sure that is set to on. Try that and let us know what happens. This is where is may take to up to an hour for it to sync. My original question here was if there is a faster option to get the contacts to sync because many times I need the contact sync immediately.
It prolly just built into the OS to sync at a certain time frame.
ItsDon said:
I had to set up the Fire Email app with my Gmail address to get the contacts & calendar to sync. I actually like the email app more than I thought I would but can't seem to find two critical things:
-Notify once for emails (not every email)
-Different notification sounds for different accounts
Am I missing a setting somewhere?
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beeson76 said:
It was pretty automatic for me. I logged in using my gmail account. I will try to help you though but you prolly already have all the correct settings. When you open your email app from the OS (not some installed app from the store), left swipe to get to your settings. In my email app, the only email I have as an account is Gmail. Go to settings in the menu. Bottom option. On next screen click Contacts Settings. From there you have an option to Synchronize contacts. Make sure that is set to on. Try that and let us know what happens. This is where is may take to up to an hour for it to sync. My original question here was if there is a faster option to get the contacts to sync because many times I need the contact sync immediately.
It prolly just built into the OS to sync at a certain time frame.
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Gotcha!! I basically disabled the built in email app and installed googlecontactssyncadapter.apk in an effort to sync contacts. Unsuccessful, I moved to using CM11 and loving it!! Thanks for the detailed explanations!
I disabled most of the amazon apps as well, and noticed that my contacts stopped syncing. Looked into it a little more and saw that it was tied to the email app. The email app is okay, but it doesn't have any of my gmail labels so that was out, and it was using too much juice as was so I had to find an alternative. This app will connect to google, or a number of other contact sync services, and you can set the sync rate on it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dmfs.carddav.sync

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