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Whats the best non sense rom for Desire?

Im tired of not being abled to use my wiimote to play emulator games etc.
So im asking what in your opinion is the best Rom for the desire without Sense activated?
1+ for link to the latest version download

IMHO AdamG's OpenDesire 3.0.1 is the best right now until the official FROYO is released.

Cyanogen Mod 6 RC1.

nycfrankduran said:
IMHO AdamG's OpenDesire 3.0.1 is the best right now until the official FROYO is released.
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Doesnt that come with sense?

He got both vanilla and sense flavoured roms

Sajhe said:
Doesnt that come with sense?
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It don't look like it comes with sense to me or would have flashed it to my phone

Sajhe said:
Doesnt that come with sense?
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Nope, as a matter of fact when you first install it, it says welcome to Nexus One! I've been using it since he uploaded it and it is awesome, blazing fast and you can OC.

I personally like the Defrost rom by Richardtrip. very fast and clean.
Is IMHO very good with launcherpro. I hear that the cyanogen is bundled with fantastic features, but I dont plan to change from DeFrost until a OCUV comes out for the 2.2 sense

nycfrankduran said:
Nope, as a matter of fact when you first install it, it says welcome to Nexus One! I've been using it since he uploaded it and it is awesome, blazing fast and you can OC.
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Sounds pretty ****ing awsome .
As i havent rooted my phone before and you seem like a helping guy (no i know where the guide is, i dont need help with that) How does uppdating the root work? do i need to reflash the new image every time a new uppdate comes?

Just download rom manager from the market once you root and it has a feature to check for updates on the rom your using. Does eveything automatic, easy as pie

Try set rom. If I want to leave Sense i'll use it without thinking.

I think I´m gonna ditch Sense. I´m fed up with it´s stupid dialer, the contacts widget and the slopoke SMS app.
Plus it´s kind of laggy. The only thing I like is the weather widget.
Any weather widgets out there? Nice ones I mean.
Thanks
P.S. I quite like the OpenDesire one.

The prettiest weather widget is fancy widget, do a search on here for the APK as its not on the market. It's exactly like the sense one, and opendesire 301 is by far the most complete vanilla android in my opinion

OpenDesire 3.0.2 just went live!

I'm on 3.0.2 now, the best just got better
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alstrike said:
I think I´m gonna ditch Sense. I´m fed up with it´s stupid dialer, the contacts widget and the slopoke SMS app.
Plus it´s kind of laggy. The only thing I like is the weather widget.
Any weather widgets out there? Nice ones I mean.
Thanks
P.S. I quite like the OpenDesire one.
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OpenDesire and DeFrost are the best ROMs Imo.
For the weather buy beautiful weather widget. It's more customizable and even prettier than HTC weather.
Sent from my HTC Desire

rdy2go said:
OpenDesire and DeFrost are the best ROMs Imo.
For the weather buy beautiful weather widget. It's more customizable and even prettier than HTC weather.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Are you using the "Beatiful Widgets"?
A lot of people are complaining about FC since the last update.

The best non-sense ROM is CyanogenMod 6.0.0 RC1 . It has so many functions that make the user experience so much better.

I thought OpenDesire was HTC Sense enabled?

Warpyau said:
I thought OpenDesire was HTC Sense enabled?
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There are two editions: one compiled from sources without sense and one with sense. Two separate threads here on xda.
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[Q] What would you like the Chefs to make??

As a developer myself, just no in the tech field, I find it helpful to know what other want so that I can produce the best. I'm sure that most of you do this because it's something that YOU personally want and or like. I deeply appreciate the work that has gone into such wonderful ROM's and I can't wait to see more.
As for me, I've tried out RR, CM, SR, Frank, Jager, ASOP, and a few other odds and ends.
It seems to me there should be a blend. A blend between Sense and well....nonsense.
Currently, I'm on the Ultimate ASOP. This ROM has been amazing because of the ability to customize. Like every ROM, there are quirks or just small things that bother me, but it's SOOOO close to greatness, IMHO. I like a lot about a lot of ROMS but if they're lacking Sense then I miss that. If they have Sense, I miss the customizing of the Non Sense. My question is, can the two be made to be CommonSense?
What I'm talking about is a ROM that combines a little bit of the HTC Sense side with the applications and setting and customization of the Non HTC Sense ROMs. For instance, the email application in the Driod root IMHO opinion is much better then the Sense one. You can easily check multiple emails and the default background is back. What if you could have Sense, but change the lock screen to something different and be able to add different themes easily? There are several instances where the two could be combined to make CommonSense. And, if you have some ideas please share!
I guess i'm just looking for ideas from others that I can take a pitch to a Chef along with a few $$$ to make a ROM that'll do just that. Is there anyone else that thinks the same or I am the only one riding the HellaNoSense boat?

check out IncDoes AOSP. but you should have posted in q/a or general for future reference

This incredible forums is in desperate need for vanailla Roms AND ASOP kernels
DESPERATE NEED
VANILLA ROMS ARE THE BEST performing and give the most memory
we have great phones and we havent taken full advantage imo from what i have seen so far

i prefer a sense based rom with virtually every sense component gutted aside from dialer and contacts (and other key vital stuff). most users use launcher pro, yet most devs seem to focus their [sense] work around modified rosie. Which doesnt seem to make a ton of sense to me. im sure the launcher pro dev would allow the use of his work cooked into roms with his permission right?

SLOflatlander said:
i prefer a sense based rom with virtually every sense component gutted aside from dialer and contacts (and other key vital stuff). most users use launcher pro, yet most devs seem to focus their [sense] work around modified rosie. Which doesnt seem to make a ton of sense to me. im sure the launcher pro dev would allow the use of his work cooked into roms with his permission right?
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actually no. LP isnt open source. thats also whay CM uses ADW rather than LP

How about a JD froyo MASH-UP! That wud b hot! You know, cause a phone that won't boot gets the best battery life
Edit: I LOVED SR vanilla, but it's a little long in the tooth... at least for now. I still have issues with AOSP stability. But I haven't flashed anything new in a month so maybe I'm full of it.

DS36 said:
This incredible forums is in desperate need for vanailla Roms AND ASOP kernels
DESPERATE NEED
VANILLA ROMS ARE THE BEST performing and give the most memory
we have great phones and we havent taken full advantage imo from what i have seen so far
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Yeap. This.

Minimalism.
Bare bones, minimal special effects, no clutter.
Basically a tiling WM or Openbox layout with basic text menus or no menus with touch commands.
Hopefully I'll be able to get into cooking whenever I get my machine in order. I've been wanting to actually contribute to some coding/hacking projects but I've never found anything of interest that would motivate me... until now :3

BigTSetter said:
... For instance, the email application in the Driod root IMHO opinion is much better then the Sense one. You can easily check multiple emails and the default background is back......
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FYI: the new Sense lets you multi select in the mail widget...Desire HD/Z

I love sense but need a landscape homescreen! I wish rosie could do this because adw and LP drive me nuts! Currently ruining SR. 3.3.3 but will make the switch when I find something that suits my needs...the reason...I frequently use a car dock and I'm on the road for at least2 hours a day
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All I would like is someone to modify the bluetooth stack to support bluetooth keyboards (I have an old iGo keyboard).

I'm still hoping for a webOS port even though that's probably not gonna happen ever
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lexdad86 said:
I'm still hoping for a webOS port even though that's probably not gonna happen ever
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Want. I just wish android took more looks from webOS. It is so beautiful!

The look & feel of the new Sense UI (The Desire Z ROM specifically), the fastest and most optimized speed possible, working camera w/ 720p video (only thing wrong with Desire Z ROM, imo), lots of free memory, clear of all the bloatware apps, aaaaaaaaaaaaand.... Ability to quickly change theme settings (transparency, selection colors, etc).
Oh, and great dev support.

ToyTank said:
How about a JD froyo MASH-UP! That wud b hot! You know, cause a phone that won't boot gets the best battery life
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Bahahaha!!

DS36 said:
This incredible forums is in desperate need for vanailla Roms AND ASOP kernels
DESPERATE NEED
VANILLA ROMS ARE THE BEST performing and give the most memory
we have great phones and we havent taken full advantage imo from what i have seen so far
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http://www.droidforums.net/forum/lithiummod/89559-lithium-mod-returns-more-devices.html
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My perfect rom would be:
Sense based Vanilla rom
htc keyboard
htc camera
htc gallery
htc contacts
either HTC facebook or contacts syncable with market facebook.
emmc working properly
adw built in
customizations avalable in cyanogen's latest rom
power widget built in to notification pull down.
figure out how to change the answer/silence to tabs
reboot option in power menu
6 signal bars
htc battery icon with %
keep the colored sense settings menu icons.
tab or rotary music controls (hidden when not in use)
thats all i can think of.

Having tried just about every ROM out there (and a couple of them a number of times) I think the problem I run into is there are little things here and there that I like about each.
All of our tastes are different, thus we like different things. Some people like the circle battery mod, some people like the rotary lock screen, etc etc...
What would be really cool is if there were a way to easily choose the specific mods you wanted... kinda like picking out options on a new car.
Ultimately, I think the answer is a dev that is willing to build you a custom ROM to your exact specifications. Of course, this would come with a price tag, but hey, it's exactly what you wanted (and it would be worth it IMO... any takers LOL).
In the meantime, I'm trying to figure out how to get what it is that I want and experiment. It's been fun, frustrating at times, and I still don't have everything I like, but at least we have lots of options to choose from, and I'm learning something new in the process

Is it not possible to build a Rom with a bunch of on off switches that allow you to select sense or no sense , or give you the option for circle battery vs stock ....
IMO.... this would be the ULTIMATE Rom .....
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@ The OP: Maybe you should initiate a poll.

[Q] A few questions about this MIUI rom?

im a sense lover but i been looking around and it seems like MIUI roms have more speed than sense roms.
also i was looking at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915527 this rom in particular.
so my questions are...
1. is Miui roms faster than sense.
2. does this Miui rom have the weather animation like sense does when u turn your screen on.
3.is there a better Miui rom than this one. I've seen a few around but this one seems to have the most votes
4.what are the pros and cons between MIUI and Sense roms.

kyhassen said:
im a sense lover but i been looking around and it seems like MIUI roms have more speed than sense roms.
also i was looking at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915527 this rom in particular.
so my questions are...
1. is Miui roms faster than sense.
2. does this Miui rom have the weather animation like sense does when u turn your screen on.
3.is there a better Miui rom than this one. I've seen a few around but this one seems to have the most votes
4.what are the pros and cons between MIUI and Sense roms.
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For the most part it is faster than most sense based ROMs out there.
There is no native weather animations, but you can accomplish this by purchasing Beautiful Widgets and selecting the option to have weather animation
There is only one version of MIUI ROM, and the link you posted is the 'official' EVO version
In my opinion there are a lot of Pros and only one Con - being there is no 4G for it....yet.
Here are my favorite things:
The lockscreen
the music app
the drop down notification - and the fact that it scrolls
the menu settings
the dialer
contacts mod
built in screen capture
file explore to connect to my CPU over WiFi
The folders
The way you can put widgets on the homescreens
etc, etc
Make a Nand of your current set up and give MIUI a whirl. After a few days if it isn't for you go back to what you had before - it's a win/win for you!
Let me know if you need any help!

JasonK75 said:
For the most part it is faster than most sense based ROMs out there.
There is no native weather animations, but you can accomplish this by purchasing Beautiful Widgets and selecting the option to have weather animation
There is only one version of MIUI ROM, and the link you posted is the 'official' EVO version
In my opinion there are a lot of Pros and only one Con - being there is no 4G for it....yet.
Here are my favorite things:
The lockscreen
the music app
the drop down notification - and the fact that it scrolls
the menu settings
the dialer
contacts mod
built in screen capture
file explore to connect to my CPU over WiFi
The folders
The way you can put widgets on the homescreens
etc, etc
Make a Nand of your current set up and give MIUI a whirl. After a few days if it isn't for you go back to what you had before - it's a win/win for you!
Let me know if you need any help!
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+ great battery life
- no hdmi yet
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Gandroid said:
+ great battery life
- no hdmi yet
Cant believe I forgot about the battery life!
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kyhassen said:
im a sense lover but i been looking around and it seems like MIUI roms have more speed than sense roms.
also i was looking at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915527 this rom in particular.
so my questions are...
1. is Miui roms faster than sense.
2. does this Miui rom have the weather animation like sense does when u turn your screen on.
3.is there a better Miui rom than this one. I've seen a few around but this one seems to have the most votes
4.what are the pros and cons between MIUI and Sense roms.
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I suggest just nand backup your current setup and flash it yourself. If you don't like it, just restore your previous setup.

Does anyone know how to keep the stock browser from going back to mobile web pages?

As for stock web staying off mobile. I have no clue. But I personally use skyfire 3.0 u can set it to 3 different sets. Desktop android and somethinf else I think. Found this program to be faster than anything else.
Also thank you for the tips. I will be sure to test it tonight. If I nand backup would it restore my apps and do I have to wipe before I do nand back up.
Is there certian kernal thats better for the miui or is the zen kernal that comes with it good?
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kyhassen said:
As for stock web staying off mobile. I have no clue. But I personally use skyfire 3.0 u can set it to 3 different sets. Desktop android and somethinf else I think. Found this program to be faster than anything else.
Also thank you for the tips. I will be sure to test it tonight. If I nand backup would it restore my apps and do I have to wipe before I do nand back up.
Is there certian kernal thats better for the miui or is the zen kernal that comes with it good?
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The Nand will make a back up of your apps, it I'd like a snap shot in time. After you do the backup then you would want to wipe everything.
As far as the kernel the stock one ids good, but feel free to try any other ASOP kernel. The thread for MIUI has a lot of good advice.
Swyped from my EVO (MIUI) using XDA App

ok cool, all sounds good and thank you. i will be testing is very shortly. just for some reason out of no where my download speed went down. i normally download anythign higher than 100mb in like 1-2mins. this is taking 30 mins.

Does anyone know if there is a new release for Miui that includes 4g now??
Please let me know.
Thanks

All you need to know. But I think the answer is no.

the answer is NO

adria25 said:
Does anyone know if there is a new release for Miui that includes 4g now??
Please let me know.
Thanks
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Not yet

[Q] CM7 vrs Stock on the DHD

Hey guys,
So I'm getting a little impatient with waiting for Gingerbread on my DHD and was thinking of going to CM7 now that its Final. Previous Custom ROMS so far havn't really done it for me. I kinda like the reliablility and battery life etc of the stock build.
Has anyone tried CM7 on the DHD who could maybe give a little account of how it worked out (battery life etc)?
Thanks

jamieboy88 said:
Hey guys,
So I'm getting a little impatient with waiting for Gingerbread on my DHD and was thinking of going to CM7 now that its Final. Previous Custom ROMS so far havn't really done it for me. I kinda like the reliablility and battery life etc of the stock build.
Has anyone tried CM7 on the DHD who could maybe give a little account of how it worked out (battery life etc)?
Thanks
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Battery life is superb on CM7 and much better than the Gingerbread Sense ROMs. I take it you have tried the latest Desire S builds? I recommend RCMix if you haven't. If you are wanting the pure Google experience though, you have nothing to fear with CM7.
Regards.

Stock rom offers a better connection between all the social networks, better stock widgets and htc sense camera app. hmmm i did have CM7 for while and i loved it but its just the camera app that did it for me, i guess im just too used to HTC sense !

I had no problems with CM7 either. Very nice rom. Camera App is nice. Audio is great. Having or not having HTC Sense is a big decision maker. Once or if you get bored of Sense, then you will really enjoy a rom like CM7 for all its other differences. If it could have the Sense Weather animations and clock, Touch Input keyboard and HTC Reader 2.0 - it could be my ideal rom at this point.
Although I'm a relative noob with trying the many Android roms.

Grant Barker said:
I had no problems with CM7 either. Very nice rom. Camera App is nice. Audio is great. Having or not having HTC Sense is a big decision maker. Once or if you get bored of Sense, then you will really enjoy a rom like CM7 for all its other differences. If it could have the Sense Weather animations and clock, Touch Input keyboard and HTC Reader 2.0 - it could be my ideal rom at this point.
Although I'm a relative noob with trying the many Android roms.
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The clock, albeit not with the flip function, can be found all over the internet. Search for Fancy Widget (Sense Clock) to find it. If you can't and desperately need it, I will pm you the apk upon request, although will have to dig it out first. Keyboard? I'm confused as to exactly what you mean, but you can use the HTC keyboard on CM7 as well as numerous other replacements. HTC Reader??!! No way! Aldiko and Laputa both make HTC's attempt look poor. Not to mention Kindle.
Personally, the slight nuances of pure Android are what I find hard to resist. The transition animations, which were present on the Donut Sense UI but inexplicably left out since 2.1, are a big one. I know you can find ROMs which include the different animations or use Launcher Pro, but they never operate 100% and stutter/glitch at random moments. Even the way the keyboard bounces onto the screen rather than just "appearing" gives a more polished feel. The clean simple UI, which lacks the clutter and plethora of menu's that Sense incorporates is a dream to navigate, and the overall speed of the OS is unrivalled. I guess for the "average user", Sense is a comfortable, intuitive blanket which makes Android accessible for the masses. In the Windows Mobile days and arguably when Cupcake/Donut were still in use, it was a necessity. Since 2.1 however, I feel it is no longer needed as the Android UI has evolved to a point where it should appeal to anyone.
Regards.
EDIT: Just seen your website Grant! Forgive the app recommendations, I see you are already well versed in alternatives.

Thanks guys!!
Im still not sure! I wasn't the interface i was worried about! I've given the customs a whirl and its been more the reliability and performance that have brought me back to the stock ROM. I've downloaded the CM7 zip! might give it a chance over the weekend before the week starts over! Ill always have my back-up for when HTC decide to give us an official release of 2.3.3.
Maybe ill never go back once i try CM7!
cheers

if your a gameloft gamer, i suggest sticking with a sense 2.2 rom. if your a audiophile, cm7.

So using it now! Love the look and feel except I find that its a big sticky when swiping between homescreens. Any suggestions?
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jamieboy88 said:
So using it now! Love the look and feel except I find that its a big sticky when swiping between homescreens. Any suggestions?
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Try a different launcher. Launcher Pro is one of the smoothest.
Regards.

The Regina 3D Launcher is one I've only just heard of - thanks to Pocketnow.com.
For anyone who hasn't tried CyanogenMod 7 - there are some screenshots here.
I've only tried 3 Roms so far on Android. It would be nice to have an ongoing poll based on member's records or vote or something to see which ones are the most popular.

Grant Barker said:
For anyone who hasn't tried CyanogenMod 7 - there are some screenshots here.
I've only tried 3 Roms so far on Android. It would be nice to have an ongoing poll based on member's records or vote or something to see which ones are the most popular.
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One thing I found missing is the ability to hide certain albums within the gallery. A nice feature when you've lots of crap on you SD card! Also having the GPS issue that seems pretty widespread.
Other than that, battery life = more awesome than Stock!

What you want from a ROM ?

Hey guys i just curious about what people want from a rom.Devs welcome
in my opinion : im good with 3.0 sense without bloatware i want cyanogen high brightness flashlight (i couldnt find any sense roms got this why? ) and an rom addon to overclock and to change governor(like an app or under settings )
that's my thoughts about a dream rom
i think its very important to participate cuz devs can understand what people want from a rom
Thank you !
And im using virtous unity 2.39

The answers to this post will be as different as what people think the best ROM actually is. The best answer is variety. We need some of each.

For me:
Simple but pleasing transitions. (I like 3D cube in MIUI)
All important apps accessible with as few button clicks as possible.
A decent keyboard. (I'll be reviewing my favorite soon) (I did like the HTC one when I used Sense.)
I'm happy with stock speed.
I'm happy with Camera/video camera app. (MIUI)
Easy to change theme for when I fancy a change.
It must include a file manager.
I prefer not to have Sense. I enjoyed it but prefer not to have it at the moment.
As few as possible included apps. (We can install them separately if necessary.)
As soon as you show it to a female - she gives you her number.

A nice and classic boot animation. No fancy stuff.
I enjoy Sense, both 3.0 and 3.5 so any will do. Classic themes.
Classic sounds. I actually like stock very much, but with tweaks and oc.
Both ARHD and Runny1.4 fullfill this, except Runny's boot screen. Although awesome, it's not what i'm looking for.

A Rom for me must be uncluttered, stable, quick, and customisable. ARHD springs to mind lol.
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It really is not gonna matter to be honest. As stated above you will get a different answer from everyone. Also I hate to tell you this but these rims are not built for the user. They are built for the Dev and then he decides to share. For far too long people have forgoten what is done here on XDA. This is not a place to come and get a cool 100%working Rom. These roms will always have beta tags as they are all hacked software to see if the Dev can get it to work and then they share for others to learn. This is not a place to make your phone cool. This is a place where you get a Rom you like and then dig in to help fix any problems that come up. And no that doesn't mean by posting "this doesn't work" it means by digging in and finding the bug with all the tools XDA gives you. With the entry of android I think a lot of people have forgotten why we are here and what this site is about.
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