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Dash Randomly Shutting off

Semi-Random shut off
I've been experiencing some random shut off with my TMo Dash. What happens is when I'm just doing random things or whatever, the whole phone shuts off like I pulled out the battery. There seems to be some correlation to when I use the wifi too. The rom has been changed from the original TMo rom > 1.33 > Rogers > 6.1. Anyone think they can offer some insight as to what is wrong and how to fix it?

I flashed from TMo official 6.0 straight to Kavana's 6.1 0307. This rom is rock solid, much smoother operation and better signal. I guess your issue is a isolated case. Maybe you can try to flash to TMo 6.0, then to Kavana's 6.1?

I had those problem since the 1.33 upgrade.
I learned that this happens when power consumption is high, like when I'm downloadind e-mail, during wi-fi session.
It doesn't happen if the phone is connected to a power source.
May be the problem is the battery (hardware), or may be is the power management section.
I am waiting a new battery and I am trying in the mean time to have it fully charged (and discharged) for a couple of cycles with this (kavana's) new rom

yea i kinda noticed the whole high power consumption/wifi thing. Hopefully its "just" that or "just" a battery. If it turns out to be the phone thats bad, time to upgrade to a touch or an iphone or something.

quick update. I just downloaded 1.22 which is the latest rom available from Tmobile. Install went perfect. Working within it seemed fine. Got online found Google Maps Mobile, and was able to download it and install it. Went back online to try to get the surreal unlock and thats when it died again. Quite depressing this is as I do like this phone.

yea this is happening to me since i flashed my phone like a couple of times ago, i dont remember which version tho. it would b sweet if someone figured out what the problem is...

From what I am reading on board posts, and talking to people personally, it sounds like a bad battery issue. Something along the lines of overcharging. In anycase, a new battery off ebay or your favorite retailer for $10-20 bucks is a small price to pay to trouble shoot a $100-200 dollar phone.

The Stig said:
From what I am reading on board posts, and talking to people personally, it sounds like a bad battery issue. Something along the lines of overcharging. In anycase, a new battery off ebay or your favorite retailer for $10-20 bucks is a small price to pay to trouble shoot a $100-200 dollar phone.
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Thats what i found out last night, my friend also has an excalibur and i used his battery and i dont have any problems whatsoever with it. The most common occurrence of the phone randomly shutting off was when i was using EDGE, because i rarely use wifi but it did do it then as well...

The Stig said:
From what I am reading on board posts, and talking to people personally, it sounds like a bad battery issue. Something along the lines of overcharging. In anycase, a new battery off ebay or your favorite retailer for $10-20 bucks is a small price to pay to trouble shoot a $100-200 dollar phone.
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I think that's it. I had the same problem with my battery. I couldn't even answer myphone without it going off. I sent my phone in to T-Mobile and they sent me a new one and I was having the same problem. I paid $110 for no reason (they said my phone had water damage). Don't pay for it unless you have to. Go to a T-Mobile cooperate location and ask them if they can exchange your battery for you. They should bring you out a free one. If not then I guess you can order one for $30 through customer service. It's probably just a batter problem. If you can get a free one then take it. And you have to use a T-Mobile approved charger. None of that third party stuff Don't do anything new to your phone yet.

I had this issue also until I bit the bullet and upgraded the battery from a 750 mAh to a 2400 mAh from AccessoryOne.com (BTW that company was sketchy, made me wait 2 weeks before I got the battery; made me pretty nervous.)
The new battery came with a new back door for the phone bc it is 3x as thick.
Works like a charm, runs for days and days without a charge.

MulderFox said:
I had this issue also until I bit the bullet and upgraded the battery from a 750 mAh to a 2400 mAh from AccessoryOne.com (BTW that company was sketchy, made me wait 2 weeks before I got the battery; made me pretty nervous.)
The new battery came with a new back door for the phone bc it is 3x as thick.
Works like a charm, runs for days and days without a charge.
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...and we are back to the suck. Now it shuts down with what I know is a full charge doing all kinds of stuff. Checking email on the exchange server, surfing the web, checking voicemail, etc.
This is REALLY starting to piss me off.

MulderFox said:
...and we are back to the suck. Now it shuts down with what I know is a full charge doing all kinds of stuff. Checking email on the exchange server, surfing the web, checking voicemail, etc.
This is REALLY starting to piss me off.
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Glad it's not just me. I posted about this after the 1.33 update and everyone made me feel stupid, like I couldn't tell my battery life had been cripled recently. My symptoms are the same, phone shutting off randomly, especially on wifi. Its now at the point that my battery is not holding a charge more than 5 minutes after being plugged in all night. I have actually noticed a bulging of the battery and the back cover will not sit flush any longer. Today I went to a tmobile store and they replaced the battery with a brand new unit, but it still shuts off when wifi is powered on.
I really like this phone, help?

It's a battery issue.. I had Tmo send a replacement phone, I swapped my battery over and beat on the new one for 30 seconds with the Tmo ROM and it shuts off..
Theres someone on ebay selling OEM batteries for something like $0.99 + $5.60 shipping. I got one on the way now.

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Glad it's not just me. I posted about this after the 1.33 update and everyone made me feel stupid, like I couldn't tell my battery life had been cripled recently. My symptoms are the same, phone shutting off randomly, especially on wifi. Its now at the point that my battery is not holding a charge more than 5 minutes after being plugged in all night. I have actually noticed a bulging of the battery and the back cover will not sit flush any longer. Today I went to a tmobile store and they replaced the battery with a brand new unit, but it still shuts off when wifi is powered on.
I really like this phone, help?
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Tmo told me to eat s*** when I asked them to replace my battery and threw me off to HTC who also told me to pound sand because HTC doesn't have a contract with Tmo.

-RotorDemon- said:
Tmo told me to eat s*** when I asked them to replace my battery and threw me off to HTC who also told me to pound sand because HTC doesn't have a contract with Tmo.
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I went to an actual tmo store and showed them the obviously bulged battery, dude ran to the back and grabbed me another =)

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I went to an actual tmo store and showed them the obviously bulged battery, dude ran to the back and grabbed me another =)[/QUOTE
I really hope that works for you but I think I am done with this phone. It started after about a year with the old T-Mobile Windows 6 system. Wouldn't haold a charge anymore, shut off randomly. Thought it was the battery. Bought a new big fat battery 2400 mAh, changed to WM 6.1 Kavana and the issues are still there.
Sorry HTC, this is a piece of crap. With all the bells and whistles and internet crap it really doesn't matter much if I can't make a F**KING PHONE CALL!!!!
I am going back to Nokia and as long as it supports Exchange server so I can work I am good because first and foremost I need the PHONE to work so I can TALK to people!!!
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Just jumping on the battery bandwagon ... I had similar problems that were resolved by replacing the battery. A new battery + new 6.1 ROM = new phone!

I've had this issue. For me, I was draining the battery by checking for new emails every 15 minutes. Wi-Fi can also be a power hog.

Dash intermittent powers off??
Here's the situation, my original ROM was T-Mo wm 6.0. While using this ROM, the phone would occasionally lock up...I had to remove the battery to clear it up, but after that all was fine. Then I upgraded to wm 6.1 kavana...initially, all worked well, ran it for 3 months no issues. Lately it just powers off, when I power back on, it will look like it's regular bootup, but just as it registers to the t-mo network, it will power off again. Even after removing the battery for a few minutes, I might get the same results...eventually, it will work again. So I thought maybe all the apps I have running in the background could be causing this. So I upgraded to rickywyatt v21. Even without installing and running my normal set of apps ("Don't Forget", "Keylock") it still powers off intermittently and behaves the same way. What is causing this and what is a fix?

Battery or Omap Clock ?
If you are using the overclock (omap clock) feature of rickys rom first disable that and if the problem still occurs get a new battery. I had the same problem and doing that I now have no random shut down issues. Im pretty sure my battery was shot.

Best ROM for battery life

Okie, heres the thing, my poor little old Orbit is about to pack it in, im getting faulty pixcels, the scroll wheel only goes down, the jog wheel only turns left and the USB socket feels like its about to fall off, but still the little beast soldiers on so ive been thinking of a new use for it....
Firstly as an Emergancy cell phone, but not every day stuff, texting GRPS EDGE etc, but more importantly as a GPS tracker, mostly for me walking about the hills, using the Orbit to track my movments in my bag.
So im hoping you guys can help me find the ROM with the least bagage, IE virtually nothing installed, with a very low footprint on RAM usage and a cracking good Radio ROM to match, not at all bothered by looks, since i wont be looking at it, but i want every last available ounce of power to go to GPS tracking, the Phone will be off at this stage and only switched on backlight an everything else wont matter neither will camera, bluetooth wifi etc
any ideas at all or directions to look at?

yue extraclean - see sig.

I'm having good experiences with Touch 3.01 vanilla by meschle. Sure it's wm6.0 but its very fast and serves me well and getting good battery times, today I've used it to surf the web for a few hours over wifi, used GPS for some time and it was only at 80% tonight.
You could try and extract it and take everything out then rebuild the ROM without wifi and bluetooth stuff, but I dont think it matters if you switch those functions off. You can search/google for Artemis_Touch_3.01_vanilla to find it.
In addition to that you can get a cheap (6.99+2.99 pounds) extended battery, that packs a whopping 2400 mAh: You can find that here.
Happy hiking

Battery and GPRS connection queston

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Turns out it was a bad battery.
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SO, I have an sx66 that will connect with little to no problem when the battery is above %50... but as soon as the battery hits that %50 (or below) mark, all bets are off, and it keeps telling me that the answering modem keeps disconnecting, or is unavailable. But, as soon as I plug it into a charger, viola, I can connect and keep going.
I'm assuming there is a setting somewhere in the registry that has to do something with something. I could understand the battery being wayyyy down, and the phone just not having the juice to connect, but this is very consistent. I also can't find any relevant posts concerning this issue.
please help.

do you have a voltage multimeter? because this sounds alot like the problems my BA have that nobody gave me any input on.
when the phone was on hte charger, i couold make calls and **** noproblem. however, when i took it off? dead. instantly, it dropped all cell reception.
i figured it was the battery, so iswapped it out. and it SEEMS to have resovled itself.
so my opinion is, swap out the battery and give that a shot. its very likely thats the problem.
if it doesnt help, try flashing it with WM5 and setting it up. that may give us some insight as to if its hardware or software.

I'm gonna go with it's a bad(ish) battery. I noticed the other evening, and again tonight (paying attention) that the battery was registering %49, but the whole unit kept cutting off as follows: do some stuff, close all with pocket nav, turn off the screen, and into my pocket. Pull it out, 5 minutes later and turn it on - to the boot screen. do whatever, turn off the screen, back in my pocket. 5 minutes later, same problem. I think the battery is registering it's capacity wrong? I'll look to see how to re calibrate.

boot screen being what, the screen alignment or what?
btu yeah. it sounds like the battery. that or the blueangels have really inconsistent radios.

tmo splash screen with the rom radio and ext rom numbers....

ass i thought this was hte otherthread lmfao.
and yeah. that same **** happend to me when i first got my imate. it's the battery.

Tried to recalibrate. not good.
I tried to cover that pin like it says in the wiki (universal's battery problem) and put the battery back in... the device wouldn't power on, so i pulled the battery and tape, and now the unit boots and all, but won't find service. at all.
Gonna try the newest radio stack, and see if that helps.

Upgrade to 1.15 saved the radio. It works now.

ohgood., you had me worried, i think its sad i care about your ba almost as much as mine.
butyeha. you should do a SD backup, theres a section in the wiki wiht the commands. then dump it with dd as an image to your pc, so incase you do **** something up you can flash from SD. of course if its a actual brick, it wont help but its a decent insurance policy.

Gotta say, God has smiled upon my cell phone situation(s).
I had to use a ****ty frankenrazr (built from parts of others) for like 2 years, and it was a phone/txtr, and that's it.
I guess for my patience, I have been rewarded with bounty... A BA, now with a camera, aluminum case, sync cables, new speaker, an a pen stylus, for about $45, and just two days ago I got a universal for some old fujitsu touchsceen computers and a little cash - about $150 in all.... Awsome

i have same problem with my MDA III from tmobile
i dont have any SD but i"ll buy 2GB
i have orginal microsoft 2003 softwere installed and i got the phone like gift
when is it charging everything works fine (wifi,gprs) but when i put out phone from USB CHARGER and go to wifi,gprs,night mode for camera or similar
IT JUST FLASHES-BLACK AND IT TURNS OFF

YEah, got a new battery, and it still cuts off at 42%. Eh...

Can one Gadget (AKA The Desire) do it all?

Hey People, the more I use this excellent phone the more I wonder can it really replace all of my gadgets on a day to day basis?
I wrote a piece on my blog about this in detail, but what do you think?
Gadgets I use the most on a day to day basis are:
Laptop - Internet and E-mail
Camera
Sat Nav
Phone
PMP - Music and Video's
My verdict was 99% a yes, and close to 100%.
Any thoughts!

It can do VOIP/SIP over HSDPA extremely well with a little help from SipDroid which I just set-up. Yay, for the Desire. ^_^ And for cheap calls!!
As for the laptop replacement it's quite adequate for my morning commute to work but when I need to do something fiddly like setup my PBX I prefer to tether my laptop.
As for replacing everything else, yeah pretty much, although whether it can replace one's girlfriend/boyfriend/significant other is a matter for debate.

LOL since when has ones, Girlfriend/Boyfriend etc, been a gadget? (why do I feel like that will spawn innuendo?)

I bought because if this!
Finally AIO device
Internet and E-mail
Camera(before used camera)
Sat Nav
Phone
Music and Video's(before used MP4)

It could, if the battery technology was at a point where the phone could last a decent amount of time when playing videos, music, making calls and surfing. If you do everything on your phone it zaps the battery. That's why I'm keeping my cowon s9 for video/music use.

RXP said:
It could, if the battery technology was at a point where the phone could last a decent amount of time when playing videos, music, making calls and surfing. If you do everything on your phone it zaps the battery. That's why I'm keeping my cowon s9 for video/music use.
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That's a valid point. I spend a lot of time on the road in my car, so a car charger helps with that!

yes i think that HTC DESIRE is the AIO device anyone needs. but the concern and main problem is here too....if i use all the features all day i only get up to the evening max...then charger is on

So would you compromise the look to interoperate a bigger battery? That's the question here?

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So would you compromise the look to interoperate a bigger battery? That's the question here?
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I think I don't need extra battery, it can last for one day if I use all it's features

I couldn't compromise on the shape, I'm hoping that a 2000mah + extended battery that is the same size will be released. I've actually been using my laptop to charge my desire on the go, lol.

i must say that its replaced a my ipod touch and n97 (email client on n97 was poor, video playback wasn't great and music player could have been better and sat nav was far too buggy) but i have to say i've been really taken with it, picks up emails faster than my outlook does for gmail, screen is fantastic, battery life is roughly the same as my itouch after a day's usage and since google maps navigation has come along its become even better! hopefully a bigger battery will be released soon as mentioned above

I have been a big PC user for most of my life and found I spent many hours on it each day catching up with whatever is happening online, etc.
Since getting this phone, I've actually found I spend half the time on the computer as I used to. I can happily be elsewhere and be able to catch up on forums through my phone with no discomfort
Technology is meant to make life easier and more efficient. The desire has certainly done that for me.

Battery , for me, is the biggest issue.
If we can get a better battery, it would be superb.
I use the phone a lot. (I haven't made a single call with it yet either as my number has still to transfer over).
But, I don't manage to last the whole day without needing a charge early evening.
I think once the novelty of the phone has worn off it will be better, but even then, it's not as if I've been using it so heavily.
Small amount of Satnav to test it out.
Fair amount of internet during the day (switching between mobile data and wireless depending on proximity of wifi network).
Screen more often than not turned almost all the way down, unless light doesn't permit.
I never get through a full day without a charge...
Is there something I'm doing wrong?
Are there any apps which export the phone's current settings, so that the set-up can be analysed by others (like the nice people on here) in order to work out a more power efficient set up?

subharmonic said:
Battery , for me, is the biggest issue.
If we can get a better battery, it would be superb.
I use the phone a lot. (I haven't made a single call with it yet either as my number has still to transfer over).
But, I don't manage to last the whole day without needing a charge early evening.
I think once the novelty of the phone has worn off it will be better, but even then, it's not as if I've been using it so heavily.
Small amount of Satnav to test it out.
Fair amount of internet during the day (switching between mobile data and wireless depending on proximity of wifi network).
Screen more often than not turned almost all the way down, unless light doesn't permit.
I never get through a full day without a charge...
Is there something I'm doing wrong?
Are there any apps which export the phone's current settings, so that the set-up can be analysed by others (like the nice people on here) in order to work out a more power efficient set up?
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You will see looking around these forums there is a lot of discussion an battery life! Personally I find that there are certain Apps that seem to drain my battery very quickly. One culprit for some reason seemed to be the 'Sky News' app? I dont have a list of apps that cause it but like I said read a few of the battery threads and it will give you some idea. The Sat Nav is a huge drain on the battery, and even when connected to my current car charger it drains quicker than it charges. I know why, its because my car charger is only kicking out .5a unlike the required 1a that the device needs (needless to say a better car charger is on its way).
But normally I can get a day out of it no problem. And If I use the Sat Nav its gonna be plugged in to a charger anyway...

I am happier with my Desire than than any other gadget I'be owned. The only problem is memory for apps. I'v havent got that many but I'm still short on space. what's the point in having a superphone if you can't show it off? I have 8 gig memory card but can't use any that space for apps! Madness!
Apps are limited un production by this and won't be a real co.tender to the iPhone appstore until it's solved.
If anyone know how to get apps on to SD on the desire please let me know. Would make this thing pretty perfect.
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

Desire can replace a lot of gadgets but it's definitely not a replacement for a laptop or a camera.

IMHO, no. I've used it for a few weeks now, and at one point considered replacing my current phone with it but...
1. Appalling battery life, maybe a working day of usage, and if I'm having to put it on charge in the evening, I'm not using it.
2. Lack of stability - applications crash out at random, shutdowns frequently hang. If I have to take the battery out to reset it, a real pain if I'm out walking, it's not ready for frontline use. While I've been typing this, the browser has completely locked up.
3. Flash memory shortage; when it's rooted, or the OS supports install-to-card, this won't be a problem, but I'm not prepared to spend a lot of time managing memory. If I need to spend a lot of time maintaining the device, I might as well use WM.
4. Odd Calendar syncing - I've mentioned it elsewhere, but I want control of how my calendars are synced to the device; Android doesn't give me that. If I want to look back a few months and check the last time I took a leave day, it may not have synced. Shabby.
5. GPS - I imagine Copilot works well on this, but a few hours testing Google Maps Navigation at the weekend really brought out serious flaws, particularly when passing through areas with no cellular data coverage. A SatNav system has to sit in the dashboard mount and just work reliably for the whole trip or it's worthless, GMN didn't.
It's a nice device to play with, and there are some good, useful applications, but I need a reliable phone, and this isn't it. Hopefully the Evo will be.

[Q] Some very queer power down sounds...

I just purchased a Defy, on Vodafone, my first android phone. After noticing a few of my friends' phones, I soon realised I was well up for it, and after stumbling upon a website that compares specs, price, allsorts of things, decided the Defy was a nice entry point to the ever expanding world of android.
As soon as I got it, I plugged it straight in and hustled about for how to get Froyo on it, I'd seen it running and played about with it a couple of times and for some reason Eclair seems a bit of a lemon to me. Lucky enough, not long ago the official 2.2 was released for UK Defy.
And that is what I am still running now, after installing cyanogenmod 5 on my mate's G1 (thrown right in at the deep end there, especially when 6 runs so huffy) and doing a few other daft jobs like frankensteining two old Sony Ericsson C902's to sell as one, I've found myself with not a lot of time spare with the internet and a data cable. However, I have had a bit of a fiddle, including root, ADW launcher, overclocking to 1ghz @ 50mv and a nice selection of lovely apps and gadgets.
After a few days though I noticed that when you muck around with your phone all the time your battery takes a hammering. I took a bit of a gamble here and purchased a 2430mAh battery off ebay for like 13 quid or something. Yeah, cheap chinese goods. While I was at it I picked up a 16gb sd card, class 10 apparently for another £12 (I don't know whether to believe the class 10, I could never remember what app I used to rumble the '32gb' micro sd I got for cheap last year - turned out to be a 2gb. That's ebay...), both came two days later and i fitted them.
Now, at first, I thought the battery was a full on con, it lasted no longer than my stock one before it was telling me i had 1% charge, and I duly slomp over to the charger (I'm using circle battery widget, is this known for its accuracy?). But then I started noticing that my battery was running down to 1% round about half three, four o' clock, and it was staying at 1% until i got home at 5. Then I forgot to charge it overnight and it was knocking on 1% at mid day, so I put it into ultra power saving mode (not an actual mode, obvious face) and, weird, it was still chugging along by 5.
Something very fishy indeed, I thought, though not for the worst...
2 o' clock today, it was saying 1%. I didn't care, Friday afternoons mean sit about in the yard and check out sickipedia and ebay for an hour or two so I kept on using it - full brightness for the sun (hot today wasn't it?), wifi on and browsing internet while skipping back and forth to youtube, sent and received the odd text too...
By 4 o' clock I had mentioned it to the fellas at work and it was starting to become a bit of a novelty. I did think as well, that I'd maybe not yet fully decharged the battery (what with rushing to the charger at the slightest hint of 1%, 'cos let's face it, that ****'s scary to look at when you got 5 browser windows open and you can't work out how to check your history after a reboot), and maybe it would be a good idea to discharge that, to reset the battery meter to my new battery.
So I left the brightness all the way up and intermittently until ten o' clock, surfed the web, played some games, fiddled with ethereal dialpad and generally gave it a bit of nuisance. By ten o' clock, I was really getting sick - this was about eight hours since it had first told me it only had indeed 1% of battery life left - so I started going nuts. I opened the market and just kept scrolling down the top free list, loading the content off my wifi (and downloading a few, but man I just hate ads..), plugged my hifi into it and played the only album I have at top 'media volume' (in connected music player, although I want something sleeker. Blacker. Quicker), got another 3 or 4 tabs up in browser, turned off all the low battery measures in setvsel, and rocked out a few minutes of the latest QI on iplayer. And this carried on for hours, At around twelve I decided to get the flashlight on too but after a while you realise you're having no fun (I haven't found a standalone flash light for the defy so I have been using video recorder mode and that's a chew on).
And finally, at 20 past 1, it died. But it was what happened during the power down that had me amazed...
You know those circuit bent gameboys and chiptune machines that create all sorts of 8 and 16 bit glitches and woops, this little beast started doing that - about half as loud as the music it pushed out of the way, and lasting for the whole blurry, dim shut down screen.
I don't know if this happens often, or if it was because I was halfway through downloading Cars and Guns (still didn't run that fresh on this) and a few other tasks, but it sounded awesome, I half thought it would bust out into a filthy beat.
I'm gonna charge this crazy fiend up and when it eventually does run out again, I'm gonna try and catch that effect and record it.
Has anyone else noticed this before or was it just a one-time glitch? I'd love to hear it mixed into some dirty beats (the breakdown in the android orchestra)
And hell, what a device, all my 'with it' buds show me their iPhones and how they can 'change their themes' and 'shoot in hdr' and 'turn it on its side, see?'
I laugh in their direction and stroke my Defy.