I know that many people will already know the answers, but starting to cook my own rom has raised a few questions, and I was wondering if anyone could provide some more definitive answers
I saw comments somewhere that suggested that the amount of files in the windows folder was a direct contributor to ROM responsiveness - is this true?
If so, why am I bothering to cook a rom when I should take the lightest one around and install everything via cabs into a different location.
Take Phone Alarm, that installs into the root program folder from a cab, but if I cook it in, it goes in windows as well.
Would anyone have any other advice as to the factors that contribute to the speed of the ROM? (I have seen the Page Pool tests that were done a while ago)
In my opinion, a rom filled with cooked apps seems to give better responsiveness than a rom filled with cab installed apps. After noticing a difference in this, I to starting cooking regularly used apps into my rom! trust me it does make a diff.
Hi, although I probably don't have the best answer for you, I have chime in a bit here, I kinda like this question.
I can't speak for everyone, but in all instances I have noticed, the more files in the Windows directory does affect ROM responsiveness to an extent, Im not saying that making it bare minimum will give you the fastest ROM when it comes to useability, I do think there is a point of removing files, where the extra little bit you remove really isn't going to be noticed when it comes to speed and usage.
If you cook in Phone Alarm, it might not actually give you any noticeable slowdown, but you're also wasting space in Storage, because you are having to duplicate the files to Program files, which you already knew, the only way to go around that would be to use your ext ROM, run your device low on storage in general, and I wouldn't be surprised if that alone didn't slow it down, no matter where the files are.
Im sure there are a few things you could cook in, registry edits, small apps that work in Windows, if you use a different dialer, you could cook it in, and remove/replace the default images, even I have noticed that some ROM's are a bit messy, parts of stripped stuff left in, you could even remove all of the help files, and change the default PIE page to Google..etc, and delete the files it pointed to.
Do I know for sure that will make the fastest ROM...no, I don't even find it worth the time to cook my own, I just run a old mostly clean big storage lvsw release, that runs sweet, and personalize it with cabs I create.
As far as page pools, I've ran a 4 and 6, I will say I did like the extra 2mb showing, but I can't say for sure myself if it really made a difference, this ROM is a 6.
I don't know if there are any really definitive answers, cause user results usually do vary, and Im sure there are even others that know better about it than I do.
Hmm slightly conflicting views. Anyone else got any thoughts....
Hi,
I've just bought a TP2 and reading through the forum I've picked up that the TP2 is customisable.
My questions are basically
-how customisable is the TP2?? i.e. is it only themes n ringtones that can be changed or can anything be changed on the phone??
Also ive read that applications like radio dont come standard on the TP2 need to be added manually.
-how hard is it to do this and does anybody have any tutorials on how to add apps and where can i get them from??
thanks
ustahir_1 said:
Hi,
I've just bought a TP2 and reading through the forum I've picked up that the TP2 is customisable.
My questions are basically
-how customisable is the TP2?? i.e. is it only themes n ringtones that can be changed or can anything be changed on the phone??
Also ive read that applications like radio dont come standard on the TP2 need to be added manually.
-how hard is it to do this and does anybody have any tutorials on how to add apps and where can i get them from??
thanks
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the device isnt the variable in customization, virtually every aspect of the TP2 is customizable and as the days go by and the devs create more things the options just become greater.
the radio add is simply installing the radio cab file, takes all of 10 seconds. All you really need to do (for the most part) for different app installs is to read if they support your resolution (480x800).
mallman said:
the device isnt the variable in customization, virtually every aspect of the TP2 is customizable and as the days go by and the devs create more things the options just become greater.
the radio add is simply installing the radio cab file, takes all of 10 seconds. All you really need to do (for the most part) for different app installs is to read if they support your resolution (480x800).
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so regarding customising to confirm basically got to wait for the realse of items for the phone.
is there a tutorial on how to add a cab file as this is my 1st HTC phone,,,
also where can i get these apps from pls??
thanks
O btw got another Q
the customisation of the TP2 isnt customising the phone but the windows OS is that right??
so if i find a good thing for windows OS and its for the right version and correct resolution it should work??
thanks for your help btw
there doesnt seem to be a thanks button
thanks again
Hi,
Welcome to forums.
Yes there are literaly millions of apps out there for WinMo from any category you can think of, productivity, media players / streamers, games, tools etc etc.
Most apps come in two forms, .cab file extension which can be copied to the memory on the device and run from the file manager, or .exe (the windows normally executable) these are installed on your desktop and the app is then installed to the device the next time you sync it with active sync.
Before getting too in depth, I advise you to read the Wiki, and the first post at the top of this forum. Familiarise yourself with the devices basic functions and where everything in the OS, that way you'll pick things up a lot quicker when reading through posts on the forum.
The entire OS is customisable, skins, pre-installed apps, added functionality (patching missing or poor functionality (NFFP issues) and anything else you can think. What we do here is port newer builds from newer devices to get the latest OS builds and optimisations for our current devices.
Have a good read, you'll understand a lot better.
Cheers,
Beasty
ustahir_1 said:
thanks for your help btw
there doesnt seem to be a thanks button
thanks again
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You can thank us all by donating to the site mate (not mandatory at all) but it helps keeps this place going.
Cheers,
Beasty
Indeed welcome to the forums.
It seems this is your first windows mobile phone? you can compare it with your windows pc a bit, only it's a bit less complex, though it still is.
On windows you can install every application that is ment for windows. As long as your system meets the system requirements of the software. It's the same with your Touch pro 2.
A lot of software has diffrent versions of their applications, each for a diffrent screen size. This reduces the size of the application (instead of installing the application for all sizes).
There are . CAB files. These are the regular installation files for you phone. Copy them to your phone and run it. (you can upload by bluetooth, but active sync is easier and faster) Then there are .exe files for mobile apps. These you install on you pc while you phone is connected via active sync. Your computer will then install it on your phone.
Now for the customisation part. This is indeed customising the OS. In the (near?) future, there will be a lot of selfmade (cooked) roms available. This goes with a lot of testing, it's the trial and error way of working.
As this is your first WM mobile?, I suggest you wait a while before customizing anything and installing custom roms. I would wait untill there are some stable roms available. Also you need to install HardSPL to make flashing (installing new Roms, and thus new OS versions) less risky. Because flashing and customizing isn't without risk.
I've been doing it quite a while (flashing) and it never went wrong, but there are also people where it did went wrong.
first off thanks beast & quarin when i get paid ill try to donate something to the site.
I'll definatly have a read into the wiki before doing anything to the phone and yes this is my 1st windows mobile so I will just it for a while to get used to it then possible start customising it.
In regards to the apps i can get apart from in this forum are there any other sites where i can download them from??
Also i do have 1 more question but its a just in case kind of question.
Ive bought the HTC sim free, 1 of my main worries is that with my Three(3) network contract SIM. I know I should be able to make calls and send text messages my query is in regards to the internet settings will they automatically be picked up via the SIM card coz when i had my iphone i had to manually put in the address for the APN and im just wondering will i have to do the same??
Thanks
beast0898 said:
Hi,
Welcome to forums.
Yes there are literaly millions of apps out there for WinMo from any category you can think of, productivity, media players / streamers, games, tools etc etc.
Most apps come in two forms, .cab file extension which can be copied to the memory on the device and run from the file manager, or .exe (the windows normally executable) these are installed on your desktop and the app is then installed to the device the next time you sync it with active sync.
Before getting too in depth, I advise you to read the Wiki, and the first post at the top of this forum. Familiarise yourself with the devices basic functions and where everything in the OS, that way you'll pick things up a lot quicker when reading through posts on the forum.
The entire OS is customisable, skins, pre-installed apps, added functionality (patching missing or poor functionality (NFFP issues) and anything else you can think. What we do here is port newer builds from newer devices to get the latest OS builds and optimisations for our current devices.
Have a good read, you'll understand a lot better.
Cheers,
Beasty
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That´s what I call a fantastic explanation!!
I wish I had one of those when first step in here
Cheers Beasty!
ustahir_1 said:
first off thanks beast & quarin when i get paid ill try to donate something to the site.
I'll definatly have a read into the wiki before doing anything to the phone and yes this is my 1st windows mobile so I will just it for a while to get used to it then possible start customising it.
In regards to the apps i can get apart from in this forum are there any other sites where i can download them from??
Also i do have 1 more question but its a just in case kind of question.
Ive bought the HTC sim free, 1 of my main worries is that with my Three(3) network contract SIM. I know I should be able to make calls and send text messages my query is in regards to the internet settings will they automatically be picked up via the SIM card coz when i had my iphone i had to manually put in the address for the APN and im just wondering will i have to do the same??
Thanks
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Most likely, the settings will be set automaticly. If not you can set them via Settings (also automaticly). But if you have pre-paid, be carefull when the settings are set. at the moment you open a browser, youtube or other apps that use internet, internet connection will automatic establish. (sorryfor my bad language)
orb3000 said:
That´s what I call a fantastic explanation!!
I wish I had one of those when first step in here
Cheers Beasty!
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yea it is the wiki helped me alot,,,
just a question where can i find these apps except from in this forum??
quarintus said:
Most likely, the settings will be set automaticly. If not you can set them via Settings (also automaticly). But if you have pre-paid, be carefull when the settings are set. at the moment you open a browser, youtube or other apps that use internet, internet connection will automatic establish. (sorryfor my bad language)
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no problem quarin i understand what your saying,,,
where you've said if i have pre-paid be careful can you please elaborate (tell my why) this??
thanks
ustahir_1 said:
no problem quarin i understand what your saying,,,
where you've said if i have pre-paid be careful can you please elaborate (tell my why) this??
thanks
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I was targetting the internet costs. They can add up. Don't know you country, but here you can't have internet prepaid without paying a lot of money. So you have too look out (in that case) not to use internet. And it uses internet automaticaly when using a program that's internet related.
quarintus said:
I was targetting the internet costs. They can add up. Don't know you country, but here you can't have internet prepaid without paying a lot of money. So you have too look out (in that case) not to use internet. And it uses internet automaticaly when using a program that's internet related.
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O ok i understand now
no with my pre-paid Three(3) Sim i have an internet allowance thanks for the tip though
After using x amounts of hours searching so many threads for different ROMs, themes etc i finally got to a point where im like "okay thats enough"
And now after im finished with my "style my phone" project im kinda thinking that there should be a "my phone tread" where everyone who wanted could post pics of their phone with links to all the apps/stuff they feel makes their phone rock. (also add a short install guide for less advanced phonebrains)
So here is My Blackstone:
Whats on it:
-EnergyROM i love this ROM. its Fast, nice and smooth
(for those who are not familiar with installing ROMs, its very easy. Just sync your phone and start the instalation from your pc)
-HDwall Ive used this to enable wallpapers on all tabs.
(it creates a cab. file. Transfer that to your phone and install it through file explorer)
here are mine backgrounds (Girl WP.png - View attachment 207188)
-Fingerkeyboard comes with lots of skins and language packs. You need the WVGA cab.
To make this app start after every soft reset you need "sip change" (install it - set delay to 50sec)
-Clock I love this one.
install the clockfix if you get the pixel error.
this clock also removes the calendar function on home page
-Tabs. The one i use is "TesalatMulticolorIcons"
thanks to those who make all these great Roms/themes/apps! I was actually about to sell my phone because of how it looked but now i love it
Please feel free to post your phone with a "whats on it" list so we can all compare apps and discover new stuff. I think this would make things so much easier for all those NPG (NonPhoneGeeks) who stumble into this site looking for ways to improve their blackstone.
OR maybe not.......
So I just bought my TP2 yesterday and right away cleared up my clock on the home screen, installed smartphone tracker, google maps.. whole bunch of stuff. A lot of the ROMs on here seem really cool and a lot better than the default phone. However, will installing this and changing registry items void a warranty and/or when I go to update my phone will it corrupt if I don't return it to default before I update? If not I'd really like to get rid of the black top and bottoms bars, change the icons to a colored option, make my own pictures I set as my wallpaper show up when landscaped.. lots of things I'd like to do. I really do apprieciate all the things everyone has contributed to this site and making the TP2 better for all of us!
Quick side question..
Which is best web browser to use? I bounce between opera and skyfire (for flash)
edit: Also, is the 2.5 update out yet for us att?
Welcome to the forum.
Before considering re flashing. you should read the sticky posts at the top of each forum,
Technically yes, re flashing with unofficial roms may cause warranty issues, however, if done correctly I personally feel the benefits outweigh the other issues.
changing settings on your current rom and not reverting before flashing shouldn't cause you any problems.
Cheers
Steve
I fail miserably at creating apps for Windows Mobile, but I'm willing to suggest concepts and whatnot.
That's where this thread comes in.
With some Windows Mobile devices, you only have the choice of either showing the battery life, or showing the clock. I think it's a bit of a hassle to have to navigate through a whole bunch of menus just to see how much life you have left in your battery. So, if a developer could create a program that could allow you to switch from either the battery meter or the time by tapping the icon, or even periodically changing on it's own, it would greatly help out other's with this concern.
If a thread similar to this already exists, by all means, trash it or point me in the right direction.
Hi Tremayne024
Here's one of the many themes that give you both, please search for more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578468