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Hey guys First post. and i wanted it to be good so here we go. I was looking around on some sites to see if there is any new word on the release date or anything, cause my phone is really outdated. So i stopped by Wmexperts.com and reading some HTC stuff, and came across an article(end) and it said that US Cellular shows rebates and stuff for the Touch Pro 2. Well, only 4 passed the FCC, and thats one sprint verizon tmobile and a ______. Well would this be true if it shows rebates, will AT&T ever get the TP2?
http://www.wmexperts.com/touch-pro-2-snap-headed-us-cellular
Colin I can't see at&t being the only carrier not to have the TP2.
Anyways, here's a post that shows an at&t variant of the TP2 clearing the FCC: http://www.wmexperts.com/touch-pro-2-att-passes-fcc .
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Colin I can't see at&t being the only carrier not to have the TP2.
Anyways, here's a post that shows an at&t variant of the TP2 clearing the FCC: http://www.wmexperts.com/touch-pro-2-att-passes-fcc .
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Just because ATT clears FCC with this phone doesn't mean it'll happen... If memory serves me right, ATT had the Samsung i900 cleared to go last year, also, and that didn't happen
But not saying the TP2 won't happen, either...
ok, i have seen these posts before, but did the FCC say that that specific one would be AT&T's model to be sold on the shelfs?
it doesn't make any sense that ATT would miss out on the TP2. we shouldn't look into this too much. ATT will be getting their variant of the TP2. we just need to be patient [:
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Colin I can't see at&t being the only carrier not to have the TP2.
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really? I can. They are the only ones getting the new iphone and with all their sights set on it, i wouldn't be surprised at all if they ignored the Touch Pro completely. Give how many iPhone users their are, and how many would jump on the upgrade, id say they dont see the TP2 as much of a thing to bother with, while the other carriers Need it just to compete with the iPhone.
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really? I can. They are the only ones getting the new iphone and with all their sights set on it, i wouldn't be surprised at all if they ignored the Touch Pro completely. Give how many iPhone users their are, and how many would jump on the upgrade, id say they dont see the TP2 as much of a thing to bother with, while the other carriers Need it just to compete with the iPhone.
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for most AT&T customers on these forums, I hope you are wrong lyian...
in my eyes, the TP2 will completely overshadow the iPhone, regardless of how fast the 3GS is.
and, knowing ATT, they would be remiss if they didn't pick up the TP2. I mean cmon, they could make much more money with both the TP2 and the iPhone on their store shelves.
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for most AT&T customers on these forums, I hope you are wrong lyian...
in my eyes, the TP2 will completely overshadow the iPhone, regardless of how fast the 3GS is.
and, knowing ATT, they would be remiss if they didn't pick up the TP2. I mean cmon, they could make much more money with both the TP2 and the iPhone on their store shelves.
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Oh i hope im wrong too, but its hard for me to think i can be. But understand all this that ive said is only from my perspective. I live in a college town, and i swear if i had a dollar for every iPhone i saw on campus every single day id be a very rich man. Two of my friends alone have them and they arnt students! iPhones are Every dam where over here. So for atleast the ATT stores here, the iPhone is king, much as i hate that idea.
I will say tho, that when i went into best buy to get a charger, i showed the cellphone guy my phone and he was like "ah HTC, yea, they're about the only phones worth running Windows Mobile on these days" hehe i just smiled
Remember the rumor involving the Barium? Hmm.... I would get the more featured OmniaPro before an ATT phone that doesn't tilt, even w/o 3G!
I have to agree with Lyian on this one. At my college some students doing a statistics project about cell phones found out that over 61% of the campus was using some sort of iPhone (2G-3G) and that another 20% or so were using a LG envy of some sort. I found this to not so surprising. I myself am using the iPhone (I know I know). I gave up on my old HTC 8525 due to the sluggishness of windows mobile. But now that I see the overhaul HTC has done with their Touch Interface, I really want one bad.
I popped into the ATT Shop yesterday and asked all the clerks and even asked to speak to the manager if they had any word on the HTC Touch Pro 2 or code-name ATT Fortress and they hadn't the slightest idea what I was talking about. Instead they kept showing me over to the iPhone 3G S and trying to get me to buy that instead (I told them I was looking to upgrade)
With ATT having the iPhone (and just getting the 3G S) they really is no need for them to push this phone out anytime soon. Maybe the 'changes' they will make to the phone will be there as to not overshadow their signature phone
Maybe I should just get the 2G TP2...
but they have released both the tilt and fuze; both of which were released along side the iphone. why would they stop now? i really believe that at&t markets these phones to two completely different markets; the fun young crowd (iphone) and the more business oriented customers (touch pro2). at&t has released an updated htc device every october/november. i dont see this being any different.
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two reasons.
1. With each iPhone release, the sale of that model phone has been better than the last. Im sure the 3gs will outsell the 3g. At first they were all about the HTC phones, then the iPhone came out, and while they may have been holding on to the HTC phones as a 'just in case', they likely feel pretty secure in their sales of the iPhone and dont have to worry about it not being a good seller.
2. Apple is making more business like apps available to try to merge into that selling market as well. Now they arnt nearly as flexible as something on a Winmo(especially with the limited interface of the iPhone) but thats not the point, and i doubt ATT cares much.
I bet if you look at the HTC phones vs the iPhone sales, their would be a major difference. Perhaps they so much more potential profit from the 3gs release, that they don't see a need to bother with the Pro2
But who knows.. All any of us can do is wait and see what ATT ends up doing.
But I don't understand why at&t would care? Either way they're making money, the data plan is the same price, why not offer both and give more options to their customers? makes no sense for them not to carry it, and I'm almost sure they will carry it. However its probably not gonna hit till october...
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two reasons.
1. With each iPhone release, the sale of that model phone has been better than the last. Im sure the 3gs will outsell the 3g. At first they were all about the HTC phones, then the iPhone came out, and while they may have been holding on to the HTC phones as a 'just in case', they likely feel pretty secure in their sales of the iPhone and dont have to worry about it not being a good seller.
2. Apple is making more business like apps available to try to merge into that selling market as well. Now they arnt nearly as flexible as something on a Winmo(especially with the limited interface of the iPhone) but thats not the point, and i doubt ATT cares much.
I bet if you look at the HTC phones vs the iPhone sales, their would be a major difference. Perhaps they so much more potential profit from the 3gs release, that they don't see a need to bother with the Pro2
But who knows.. All any of us can do is wait and see what ATT ends up doing.
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At least two people from xda have seen it, so I don't think this thread is meaningful anymore.
Besides, the assumption made is questionable, since U.S. Cellular is on CDMA, not GSM
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But I don't understand why at&t would care? Either way they're making money, the data plan is the same price, why not offer both and give more options to their customers? makes no sense for them not to carry it, and I'm almost sure they will carry it. However its probably not gonna hit till october...
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well, they have to buy the phones from HTC.. and if they dont sell, then they lost money...
Is there a CDMA hardspl? Can Verizon phones be flashed?
These phones are now just being released to Carriers
Verizon has the phone for $199
Sprint / ATT are expected to charge $299
Because I am a noob and had a tilt previously CDMA vs GSM wasn't an issue, my 2 year contract expires in a few days.
Will ROMS be cross compatible or GSM only or CDMA only?
Anyone have experience with differences in internet speeds?
Im a UK GSM user. Heres what i can tell you off hand.
Check the Rhodium CDMA forum to see if there is a HardSPL (I dont think so, yet)
$100 dollars is a lot of monies
Not cross compatible, dont do it. Dont think about it, im sure bad things happen.
No idea about internet speeds.
Me personally? GSM Model, $100 is a lot but there are far more GSM users on XDA devs therefore far more things to play about with. This phone is a toy for me, i dont need it but it occupies me. You chose!
Actually $349.99 for Sprint and T-Mobile
AT&T not listed as of yet, I will try to barter it for $199 when it comes out
Verizon actually looks very nice, but knowing them they usually block alot of stuff on their device or charge extra for things that should be free...
ATT is the way to go for me atleast...you get a wider support if its a gsm phone vs. cdma
The reason why verizon's TP2 is cheaper is because they require you to have a data plan for as long as you own the phone. the data plan is $29.99 a month. Thats $360 extra a year. I dont think spring requires a data plan which is why theirs is more expensive.
Verizon & Sprint = CDMA & GSM (first world phone for them cept BB an Nextel) Uses MSA 7601 Chip (Sprint's add on Data is 15 bucks WIN WIN with Sprint)
AT&T = GSM only and poor expensive data Network - Use's MSA7200 Chip < FAIL!
bimori said:
The reason why verizon's TP2 is cheaper is because they require you to have a data plan for as long as you own the phone. the data plan is $29.99 a month. Thats $360 extra a year. I dont think spring requires a data plan which is why theirs is more expensive.
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Sorry, but Sprint also charges you for a data plan for as long as you have the phone. However, I'm not sure whether they lock you into it for the duration of the contract or not, but who gets a smartphone without data these days?
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AT&T = GSM only and poor expensive data Network - Use's MSA7200 Chip < FAIL!
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The AT&T network is consistently the fastest. It only lags slightly behind Verizon in coverage, too.
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Verizon & Sprint = CDMA & GSM (first world phone for them cept BB an Nextel) Uses MSA 7601 Chip (Sprint's add on Data is 15 bucks WIN WIN with Sprint)
AT&T = GSM only and poor expensive data Network - Use's MSA7200 Chip < FAIL!
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I know I should research this but do you know the differences between both chips. I am sure people on this thread are interested as well. Any clock speed differences or is it just the carrier hermaphrodite ability?
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The AT&T network is consistently the fastest. It only lags slightly behind Verizon in coverage, too.
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I'm gonna have to seriously disagree with this. This only applies in big cities. Verizon has better overall coverage and better broadband coverage. At&t also has HORRID customer service. Before At&t took over I would've agreed with this but At&t screwed everything up.
On the note of the one i would buy I would buy the Verizon or Sprint one based on the messed up keyboard design that at&t continues to go with.
I dont know about horrid customer service, It can be bad at times, but I had a tilt and warranty exchanged it twice and got a fuse. I think playing dumb with att will get you where you want to go and more info than you were looking for, Data coverage always varies upon where you live, I have lived in the sticks of upper michigan for a while now, NO 3G but never a dropped call and I mean never When I was in a bigger city with my fuse my data speeds were impressive but every time I went ut of range of a tower and conected to another it dropped my call, which is utter bull. So If your looking to buy a phone check out the internal specs on the device, see what can be unlocked and flashed to your liking and look at the device to see if it is aesthetically pleasing to your eye not someone elses, if you like the way it looks and what its got in it buy it. But just from my point of view dont buy CDMA having a sim card rocks you can put it into any phone and bam! new phone! Well any compatible phone but there are a lot of them. CDMA phones are a carriers way of shoving a cactus up you a** and telling you to like it.
7600 vs 7601
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I know I should research this but do you know the differences between both chips. I am sure people on this thread are interested as well. Any clock speed differences or is it just the carrier hermaphrodite ability?
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Former Qualcommer here, and was involved in this, at least from the finance perspective.
The chips are identical in function. The only difference between the two of them were that the 7601 chips had a power save function disabled to be in compliance with a broadcom ruling on the 686 patent infringement case. This has long since been settled and the two companies are at peace with each other. It was only an issue for chips being imported into the USA from Singapore.
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Former Qualcommer here, and was involved in this, at least from the finance perspective.
The chips are identical in function. The only difference between the two of them were that the 7601 chips had a power save function disabled to be in compliance with a broadcom ruling on the 686 patent infringement case. This has long since been settled and the two companies are at peace with each other. It was only an issue for chips being imported into the USA from Singapore.
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Thank you for the clarification.
I havent seen anyone respond about the Verizon version TP2 being crippled so I will. It IS NOT for the first time, everything is the same as the others except the Verizon version is much sexier
stanglifemike said:
I havent seen anyone respond about the Verizon version TP2 being crippled so I will. It IS NOT for the first time, everything is the same as the others except the Verizon version is much sexier
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THANK YOU!!! I'm considering the leap to Verizon. I would definitely like to know what you think of the device. What the removal of the ctrl key to add another message key. I really thought that was dumb...
Dont forget that if you have AT&T's family plan, you can ditch the data plan for the TP2 and add medianet for the dumb phone for $15 then swap SIM chip. Now you have TP2 with unlimited data plan for only $15.
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THANK YOU!!! I'm considering the leap to Verizon. I would definitely like to know what you think of the device. What the removal of the ctrl key to add another message key. I really thought that was dumb...
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Absolutely wonderful!! The screen on this thing is simply beautiful, and the speed and smoothness of TF3D is quite an improvement of the TP. Overall, the BEST ppc that I have laid eyes on and I enjoy using it everytime I pick it up....enjoy looking at it too. I highly reccomend it!!
how do we even know if weve got the CDMA or GSM version .. ??
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Absolutely wonderful!! The screen on this thing is simply beautiful, and the speed and smoothness of TF3D is quite an improvement of the TP. Overall, the BEST ppc that I have laid eyes on and I enjoy using it everytime I pick it up....enjoy looking at it too. I highly reccomend it!!
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Hmmm I was expecting a comparison to the WWE edition. The comparisons to the TP is what i already know but thanks. I had the TP and the Xperia and no doubt that the TP2 is by far better than those two. It is the greatest winmo device i've ever used and it had the best stock rom i've ever used as well. Thats why i'm thinking about making the switch to cdma. I like to be able to change phones as much as I want thats why i stuck with At&t.
well I'm sure you know about the GSM capabilities and the Verizon sim card already installed in the phone
I'm pretty much at my breaking point with this company. Between empty promises, botched hardware and being the last of the majors to even release the new technology, let's just state what goes without saying: AT&T should rename themselves to iPhoneT&T because they've apparently bet the farm on that overrated piece of crap and in turn have thrown their Windows Mobile business clients under the bus.
No amount of excuse makes sense or matters any more. The iPhone 3GS has been on the market for plenty of time. If someone was gonna buy it, they'd have bought it by now. If they were waiting for WinMo 6.5, they could have released it as an update rather than making their clients wait while every other major phone company released it. Not to mention the fact that the "consortium" of US carriers have kept HTC from releasing unlocked versions for U.S. consumers. God forbid they didn't get their over-charging grubby hands on a few extra shekels. For the love of everything sacred, HTC is already leaking the HTC Leo and I have yet to see a TP2 outside of a T-Mobile showroom!
AT&T has lost it's focus and I'm at the point where waiting for them to get off their sorry butts to release a phone (of which they're going to screw up the hardware, let's be frank) has become a near impossibility and I'm about ready to jump ship.
That leads me to two questions: Who's with me and where the heck should I go?
Hey I feel your pain I am still using the Hermes from 3 years ago. I really want this phone but I can't do Sprint (Not enough custom ROM's etc) and Verizon well they just totally suck!! T-mobile is an option but coverage isn't that great here and there is no 3G and I have heard the sound volume is sucky on that one for some reason.
So I am stuck for now. As far as the whole 6.5 thing it really doesn't matter to me because I would just be using a custom ROM from here anyway but I really have no choice but to wait
While the Leo looks bad as hell I think its the first time I have actually thought hmmm maybe that phone is just too damn big for me lol
They've got the iDud and all the money and glory that goes along with it, do you think they give a crap about the Touch Pro 2?
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Verizon well they just totally suck!! T
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Why do you say that?
californiarailroader said:
Why do you say that?
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Just my personal experience and I told myself long ago I would never give them my money again because of the things they do.
Most of their phones you can't send files like pics and ringtones via bluetooth because that profile is taken out. Alot of phone have GPS locked and WIFI taken out etc.
Again thats just my personal opinion.
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Just my personal experience and I told myself long ago I would never give them my money again because of the things they do.
Most of their phones you can't send files like pics and ringtones via bluetooth because that profile is taken out. Alot of phone have GPS locked and WIFI taken out etc.
Again thats just my personal opinion.
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They used to do those things, that's true, but no more, all their smartphones (and regular phones) come with all features (like GPS, Bluetooth OBEX, etc.) intact and ready for use. They have also released ROM updates for many devices, like the original Touch Pro and Omnia that unlock the GPS on them. They said they'd do it, and they did, I am surprised but pretty happy they have
Thats probably true but at this point its the principle of the matter because I have way too many options in my area. Besides they are also the most expensive.
We've got 5 carriers, AT&T (formerly Edge Wireless here, an AT&T affiliate), Verizon, US Cellular, Metro PCS and as of this summer/fall, T-Mobile, who is just building out in our area. In terms of actual coverage, it goes like this-
1.US Cellular
2.Verizon
3.AT&T
4.Metro PCS
5.T-Mobile (they are just building out, hence the low rating).
Sprint and Nextel have licenses to serve our area as well, but have never built out a network here. Sprint roams on US Cellular, and Nextel phones are just dead paperweights.
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They've got the iDud and all the money and glory that goes along with it, do you think they give a crap about the Touch Pro 2?
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Oh it's obvious that they don't give a crap about it. My problem is that they want to have their cake and eat it too. "We don't give a crap about Windows Mobile users and we'll release the phones we're going to whenever we darn well please, but we want to be sure that HTC doesn't give people the opportunity to buy it before we make it available."
The fact that they keep the manufacturer from releasing an unlocked version that will work here is criminal. It's almost a cellular monopoly but in the sense that the carriers have gotten together as a team in an effort to remove choice from the consumer. They can claim all they want that you can still buy one from the manufacturer but that's like saying you can only buy a Porsche in the US from a Porsche dealer. If you order one from overseas, not only will you pay significantly more, we're also going to replace the engine with one from a 1987 Ford Escort.
Why can't we just buy the phone we want from whoever we choose and let that be that. I still have to pay for service any way you cut it. They can't be making THAT much money of the device itself anyway!
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Who's with me
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Not me.
I'm cruising along just fine on my Kaiser till AT&T gets the Tilt 2 like they want it.
Everything I've read leads me to believe it's a great device and worth the wait. If I get 2 years out of a Tilt 2 like I have my Tilt 1, it's all good.
I'm with you. Hopefully I'll be saying byebye to AT&T today...Once my TP2 arrives..
I don't mean to be a little rough but STOP WHINING AND TAKE ACTION!
I felt exactly as you did and changing carriers wasn’t really an answer. After all, by buying from any carrier you are supporting HTC and the local carriers who arrange/force HTC not to release phones with US 3G bands.
The ONLY way this is going to change is if the customers (YOU) change.
Personally, I have decided I will NOT sign any 2 year commitment and I will NOT be forced to buy a data plan, and I will NOT support HTC who is allowing ATT and others to bully them into not releasing world phones with US 3G bands.
The solution is simple, buy from a company who DOES NOT DO THIS. Personally, I went with the Samsung Omnia 2. If that is not your cup of tea, look at Nokia’s or even the Sony X2 which is due out soon. Support the companies that are releasing phones with US 3G bands.
The only way the local carriers are going to change (or HTC) is if enough of us speak with our money and take our business elsewhere. That is the only way things will change. Whining about it on a forum isn’t going to have any effect.
Good luck to you and I hope you do speak with your wallet by taking your business to other phone manufacturers.
While I'm certainly not enjoying the wait to upgrade my 8525, I don't really see the issue with them waiting for WinMo 6.5. Sucks for me, but then I know the carrier is going to fully support it. Are all the other carriers going to have 6.5 upgrades ready and waiting on Oct 6th?
Also I feel like I'm in the minority, but my experience with AT&T has been great. Their 3G coverage in my area is fantastic. I'm not a big fan of AT&T as a company, but I have a hard time arguing with the service I receive.
My first post.
I've been waiting on ATT for what seems like forever. Think I'm going over to Sprint in a week or two so I can try out both the TP2 and the Hero then decide which one I want. Not to mention the monthly cost will be significantly reduced compared to ATT.
Have a newb question. I know there is a different hardspl for the Sprint version, that isn't out yet as far as I can tell, but once hardspl is out will all the roms, software, etc. for the other versions work on the CDMA version? If not I might be stuck waiting on ATT and paying too much for service.
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I'm pretty much at my breaking point with this company. Between empty promises, botched hardware and being the last of the majors to even release the new technology, let's just state what goes without saying: AT&T should rename themselves to iPhoneT&T because they've apparently bet the farm on that overrated piece of crap and in turn have thrown their Windows Mobile business clients under the bus.
No amount of excuse makes sense or matters any more. The iPhone 3GS has been on the market for plenty of time. If someone was gonna buy it, they'd have bought it by now. If they were waiting for WinMo 6.5, they could have released it as an update rather than making their clients wait while every other major phone company released it. Not to mention the fact that the "consortium" of US carriers have kept HTC from releasing unlocked versions for U.S. consumers. God forbid they didn't get their over-charging grubby hands on a few extra shekels. For the love of everything sacred, HTC is already leaking the HTC Leo and I have yet to see a TP2 outside of a T-Mobile showroom!
AT&T has lost it's focus and I'm at the point where waiting for them to get off their sorry butts to release a phone (of which they're going to screw up the hardware, let's be frank) has become a near impossibility and I'm about ready to jump ship.
That leads me to two questions: Who's with me and where the heck should I go?
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I'm way ahead of you. I left AT&T 3 weeks ago for the TMo TP2.
argoldst said:
I don't mean to be a little rough but STOP WHINING AND TAKE ACTION!
I felt exactly as you did and changing carriers wasn’t really an answer. After all, by buying from any carrier you are supporting HTC and the local carriers who arrange/force HTC not to release phones with US 3G bands.
The ONLY way this is going to change is if the customers (YOU) change.
Personally, I have decided I will NOT sign any 2 year commitment and I will NOT be forced to buy a data plan, and I will NOT support HTC who is allowing ATT and others to bully them into not releasing world phones with US 3G bands.
The solution is simple, buy from a company who DOES NOT DO THIS. Personally, I went with the Samsung Omnia 2. If that is not your cup of tea, look at Nokia’s or even the Sony X2 which is due out soon. Support the companies that are releasing phones with US 3G bands.
The only way the local carriers are going to change (or HTC) is if enough of us speak with our money and take our business elsewhere. That is the only way things will change. Whining about it on a forum isn’t going to have any effect.
Good luck to you and I hope you do speak with your wallet by taking your business to other phone manufacturers.
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Let's see, you don't have a TP2, don't even have an HTC phone, and are advocating that all of us also refuse to buy HTC altogether so WTF are you doing here in a forum dedicated primarily to HTC phones? It seems to me that if you really were serious about your little boycott you would put your money where your mouth is and "take your business elsewhere."
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My first post.
Have a newb question. I know there is a different hardspl for the Sprint version, that isn't out yet as far as I can tell, but once hardspl is out will all the roms, software, etc. for the other versions work on the CDMA version? If not I might be stuck waiting on ATT and paying too much for service.
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I highly doubt it.
i think the main reason att hasnt released the touch pro 2 is that their network isnt ready to handle all the data the will be running on those devices, they have already alot of activity from the 3gs , also they are waiting to release it with windows 6.5 so that will be a plus because it will be definite that it will be fully supported, just my .02
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I'm pretty much at my breaking point with this company. Between empty promises, botched hardware and being the last of the majors to even release the new technology, let's just state what goes without saying: AT&T should rename themselves to iPhoneT&T because they've apparently bet the farm on that overrated piece of crap and in turn have thrown their Windows Mobile business clients under the bus.
No amount of excuse makes sense or matters any more. The iPhone 3GS has been on the market for plenty of time. If someone was gonna buy it, they'd have bought it by now. If they were waiting for WinMo 6.5, they could have released it as an update rather than making their clients wait while every other major phone company released it. Not to mention the fact that the "consortium" of US carriers have kept HTC from releasing unlocked versions for U.S. consumers. God forbid they didn't get their over-charging grubby hands on a few extra shekels. For the love of everything sacred, HTC is already leaking the HTC Leo and I have yet to see a TP2 outside of a T-Mobile showroom!
AT&T has lost it's focus and I'm at the point where waiting for them to get off their sorry butts to release a phone (of which they're going to screw up the hardware, let's be frank) has become a near impossibility and I'm about ready to jump ship.
That leads me to two questions: Who's with me and where the heck should I go?
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Ditto, Verizon (coverage and unlocked GSM sim card), sprint if they have good coverage in your area (4G),
I would have jumped ship if not for the fact that it would cost me a minimum of $30/month more on any other carrier compared to my grandfathered plan.
So in the meantime my Tilt is enough to keep me going, though my patience is very thin at this point. I just want to know a release date (price too would be nice). That would at least make the waiting more bearable knowing when it would end.
Leave AT&T cause they release a phone 2 months after others? Doubly a solid reason.
I like AT&T, I like their prices (I pay $20 for unlim internet, + $70 for 2 phones (700 mins)). Plus their rollover feature is cool, I got like 4.8K minutes accumulated (way too much I know).
Plus their customer service is awesome, they've repeatedly forgiven me $200-$300 on my account when I went way out of limit (about 4 years ago). My friend with Verizon was so jealous.
Just hang tight, AT&T's tilt 2 will be out in Nov '09.
I got this from a good friend ex-coworker at ATT. Says they will be able to sell it on 10/5 I don't know any codenames or such but, I will let you guys know soon.
Being that WM6.5 will be launching the next day, I find this to be very unlikely. Will they launch it with WM6.1 and then offer an upgrade the following day? Me thinks not.
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Being that WM6.5 will be launching the next day, I find this to be very unlikely. Will they launch it with WM6.1 and then offer an upgrade the following day? Me thinks not.
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So they release a phone with 6.5 one day before the official release. I dont think the would really mind. They will make money by selling the phone anyway.
Hey jsut informing on the text I got
"ATT update it should be able to sell on 10/5" so I don't make the rules but we will see.
I agree that it wont be until the 6th due to the windows 6.5 release. However we are splitting hairs. We have waited a couple of months now so a few more days wont make a whole lot of difference to me.
The fact that it actually is being released by ATT is great news for me as Rogers here in Canada is still flogging Tytn's for $350 with a contract. At least they have stopped offering the two tin cans with a string between them.
1 day early
I have to say who cares just release the thing...I have had my Telstra HD for a month and I must say I miss the hardware keyboard. I know when I bought my fuze last year I was able to get it 1 day early so they might do that again.
According to boygeniusreport.com, the date was originally to be October 6th, but was apparently delayed until the 18th because of some severe ROM bug that needed to be fixed. Though I'm sure you can get it early, that's what I did with my Tilt.
Considering how att has handled the tilt 2, this would not be out of their realm of possablity. Their specialty is the iphone and not windows moble.
buffalosolja42 said:
I got this from a good friend ex-coworker at ATT. Says they will be able to sell it on 10/5 I don't know any codenames or such but, I will let you guys know soon.
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I doubt it... That's way too far before the Oct 18th release date that BGR reported.
Your friend was probably looking at out-dated info. when the date was set for the 6th, this may have been true, but it was pushed back 2 weeks. Maybe we can get it on the 17th though.
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which means that should have it in at that time, now wireless carriers don't sell phones as soon as they come in. They usually go to a centralized place in the area and then are distributed accordingly, and the SME (Subject Matter Experts) generally have the phones for trial before then.
I'm so hesitant to go for the AT&T TP2 when the Leo is soo close
RTbar said:
I'm so hesitant to go for the AT&T TP2 when the Leo is soo close
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Kind of what I'm thinking BUT...is the Leo really close? I don't recall anyone mentioning it going through the FCC approval. I would prefer an unlocked non-branded phone anyway but we're not seeing them come through in Europe or Asia with the right bands for U.S. use. My guess is we won't see a usable Leo in the states for quite a while.
For me, it's probably an ATT TP2, use it for a year and then check out the new WM7 machines with the newer hardware specs.
A year from not it's going to be a whole new ballgame.
mspingeld said:
Kind of what I'm thinking BUT...is the Leo really close? I don't recall anyone mentioning it going through the FCC approval. I would prefer an unlocked non-branded phone anyway but we're not seeing them come through in Europe or Asia with the right bands for U.S. use. My guess is we won't see a usable Leo in the states for quite a while.
For me, it's probably an ATT TP2, use it for a year and then check out the new WM7 machines with the newer hardware specs.
A year from not it's going to be a whole new ballgame.
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Thats true, I guess I could just put a good protector on and sell when the time comes, but I thought I heard somewhere there would be a Telestra version with AT&T bands coming out this year
RTbar said:
Thats true, I guess I could just put a good protector on and sell when the time comes, but I thought I heard somewhere there would be a Telestra version with AT&T bands coming out this year
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Keep in mind that in November last year the TP 2 was announced and also was in the same stages as the Leo is NOW. This was Nov last year!
Check out this post from the HTC LEO thread in general.
darkblak said:
I spoke to O2 this morning and they said October 19th and they have it listed as HTC HD2.
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sdlopez83 said:
Check out this post from the HTC LEO thread in general.
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If O2 releases the phone and it's unlocked, will it work on U.S. 3G?
HTC Leo would be a nice upgrade but 800+ USD for a phone is beyond insane. Touch Pro 2 without contract would be 500 on ATT i dont think i can make that jump to Leo and not even havent USA 3G support.
Leo looks like the only winmo phone thats capable of updating to WINMO 7 though...multi-touch and snap dragon...thats pretty much the requirement for Winmo7....
maybe someone will come out with multi-touch, snap dragon, and tegra chip set...that would be quite a beast.
patiently waiting for touch pro 2 for ATT upgrade not due till late November maybe ill hear other annoucement for ATT
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If O2 releases the phone and it's unlocked, will it work on U.S. 3G?
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Doubt it. Same situation as using a euro TP2 in the US...different 3G frequencies.
Leo = no kb and cap screen = not interested
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Thats true, I guess I could just put a good protector on and sell when the time comes, but I thought I heard somewhere there would be a Telestra version with AT&T bands coming out this year
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You can already get the Telstra on eBay for around 800$.
It has 850mhz band but not 1900 for 3G which is still suitable for most people in the states/canada
i just got off the fone with one of the reps and she said it is coming out THURSDAY!!!!!FINALLY!
I'm going to be at the store when they open on Thursday
I wonder if this is only being launched in some areas because I called a few stores today and they had no idea when it was going to be released. Or maybe the reps at AT&T stores around here just haven't got the word yet.
yoo mee too im takin this pure back tomorrow! and ordering my td2(HTC IMAGIO) from verizon tomorrow!
You guys seen the keyboard on the Tilt 2? Ewwww!!!!
The number keys should be on the top row like on the rest of the Rhodiums
Good thing there is a program to remap them...
http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/10/06/att-tilt2-coming-to-play-october-8/
headshok said:
You guys seen the keyboard on the Tilt 2? Ewwww!!!!
The number keys should be on the top row like on the rest of the Rhodiums
Good thing there is a program to remap them...
http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/10/06/att-tilt2-coming-to-play-october-8/
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This has been known for a couple months now, and it is the same layout as the Tilt and Fuze essentially. Unfortunate, but those of us who want a Rhodium with 3G on AT&T don't have a choice.
I can't believe the Tilt 2 is finally almost here, I was totally expecting the 18th, and not such a stealthy launch like this.
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You guys seen the keyboard on the Tilt 2? Ewwww!!!!
The number keys should be on the top row like on the rest of the Rhodiums
Good thing there is a program to remap them...
http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/10/06/att-tilt2-coming-to-play-october-8/
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I like the number keys the way they are, MUCH faster to type for me.
I posted in a few other threads that October 8th was the release day, where were you guys??
Here is what my business ATT rep sent me that came from ATT corporate:
"Hello Eric,
I figured that I would make your evening!! See below: I have put in Bold the information that will make you happy! Looks like we will be ordering in a couple of days.
Have a great evening!
Channels: Consumer Care, COR, Local Dealer, National Retail, DMDR, and Small Business
Roles: Representative and Above
Markets: All Markets
Contacts: Your Manager
AT&T will launch the HTC Tilt 2 to all channels of distribution on October 8, 2009.
The HTC Tilt 2 has a large, vivid, tilting touch screen that enables easy navigation via the Touch FLO™ 3D interface. The HTC Tilt 2 has an extra-large physical QWERTY keyboard, plus on-screen touch virtual keyboard that works in horizontal or vertical orientation. The HTC Tilt 2 provides a quality speakerphone experience with dual speakers, dual microphones and advanced noise cancellation with StraightTalk™ technology.
The HTC Tilt 2 from AT&T arranges conversations by people, not by the application that used. Users can now see a history of conversations, in whatever form it took place, directly from the contacts list. The HTC Tilt 2 comes loaded with AT&T applications, but users can also download more applications through AT&T’s Appcenter, or from the Windows MarketPlace Mobile store. The HTC Tilt 2 supports quad-band GSM, bi-band HSDPA/UMTS, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth."
I'm gonna go bug our business rep tomorrow for a new TP2 2 days early
Check this out
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/HTC-Tilt-2/index.jsp
nemets said:
Check this out
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/HTC-Tilt-2/index.jsp
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Still no price listed. Why is AT&T making it so hard to find a no commit price on this thing?
SaltyDawg said:
Still no price listed. Why is AT&T making it so hard to find a no commit price on this thing?
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i think i read somewhere that it'll be 299.00 after a $50 rebate with 2 year contract. not completely sure though.
imabored said:
i think i read somewhere that it'll be 299.00 after a $50 rebate with 2 year contract. not completely sure though.
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really hoping for this. I read somewhere (i think wmexperts) that it could go for $349.99 after $50 rebate. I hope ATT doesn't go the T-MO/sprint route, n leans more toward the verizon route. Either way, im gonna try to bargain with the workers to lower the price a little. Maybe 250? haha
poppinpengawen said:
really hoping for this. I read somewhere (i think wmexperts) that it could go for $349.99 after $50 rebate. I hope ATT doesn't go the T-MO/sprint route, n leans more toward the verizon route. Either way, im gonna try to bargain with the workers to lower the price a little. Maybe 250? haha
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yeah. im hoping that 49.99 deal that people have gotten the past couple weeks. haha i doubt it though.
yea i want to get this the first day but tmobile and sprint had their tp2 on sale a week or two after it release for a day or two...i dont want to buy it and see a deal like 200 or lower show up that would hurt...
I don't care about the discounts, rebates, etc. I am planning on paying full retail for mine. But I need to know the full retail price because I have to withdraw the money like a week in advance from my brokerage account...
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I don't care about the discounts, rebates, etc. I am planning on paying full retail for mine. But I need to know the full retail price because I have to withdraw the money like a week in advance from my brokerage account...
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The subsidy price is usually $150 less than full retail before MIR. I suspect that the full retail price is $349.99 + $150.00 = $499.99
Keyboard is UGH
headshok said:
You guys seen the keyboard on the Tilt 2? Ewwww!!!!
The number keys should be on the top row like on the rest of the Rhodiums
Good thing there is a program to remap them...
http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/10/06/att-tilt2-coming-to-play-october-8/
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I can't agree more. If you want to dial it like a normal phone, use the touch screen. I don't want to have to hold Fn every time I want to TYPE a number. I wish I could swap the keyboard out somehow...
sleze said:
I can't agree more. If you want to dial it like a normal phone, use the touch screen. I don't want to have to hold Fn every time I want to TYPE a number. I wish I could swap the keyboard out somehow...
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Well I don't want to hold fn every time I use punctuation, which is far more often than numbers.
I've got the sprint TP2 which needs to go back because sprint coverage is horrible in my area.
Looking at the photos and the couple seconds in that video in the other thread I have to say the AT&T version looks really chincy compared to the sprint version. Is that what took so long for At&t to come out is excessive value engineering?
Either way I'm going with the cheap ugly at&t version because I don't have a choice.
SoapDoctor said:
Looking at the photos and the couple seconds in that video in the other thread I have to say the AT&T version looks really chincy compared to the sprint version. Is that what took so long for At&t to come out is excessive value engineering?
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Really? It seems to me that among the US carriers, AT&T has the one that looks closest to the original HTC version, which I kinda get the idea that everyone likes best. AT&T messed with the keyboard but it looks like they had sense enough to leave the rest alone.