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Touch Pro2 is OUT today

Hi Guys,
Clove now have stock of the TP2 and are starting shipping them today
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=C64E151D-03FE-49D1-8412-C266A9D3D48B
Jas

Best news EVER (well, this month then)

Yer too right!
Cant wait to get one!! Ive emailed asking about the FM radio to see if it has one or not

THis is the news message they have on their site:
Tuesday 26th May 2009
So we have been waiting since February for the HTC Touch Pro2, but today the wait is over.
The first units have arrived into stock and are available to BUY.
This Touch Phone runs Windows Mobile 6.1 and has the features that you could require when away from your home or office.
The 3.6" WVGA display offers the richest images and most pleasurable viewing experience, much better than many alternative products.
The 5 line QWERRTY keyboard makes text and data entry simple. Whether you are writing a report, texting your best friend or replying to the boss, it is simple and effortless on the Touch Pro2.
Lightweight, considering the facilities, the Pro2 feels solid, but very usable in the palm of your hand.
HTC have pushed the boundaries for Windows Devices once again, the HTC Touch Pro2 is a must for a gadget fan, personal or business user

I've just bought one

Extremely Jelious! lol
Im gonna ring T-Mobile and find out if they have any news on one arriving

Spoke to Orange (UK) yesterday, and a really helpful lady said she doesn't know the exact date but it will be out within the next two weeks and that as soon as she gets information she will text me.
I'll post anything of use.

Just Rang T-Mobile (UK) and they said i can get one Next week
Was due to be released this week but its been pushed back to next week

I wish Orange would just put it under 'coming soon' on their website, gah.
I wonder how much they'll list it for, I'll try and get it for free either way. I usually seem to be quite good at getting free phones from Orange.

Chap i spoke to said on my contract which is £45/month give or take with WnW and what not should be free.

I've found Orange's phones in the past tend to be cheaper on the cheaper contracts so I'm hopeful. Bleh, hurry up Orange I'm dying here

jaso2005 said:
Just Rang T-Mobile (UK) and they said i can get one Next week
Was due to be released this week but its been pushed back to next week
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My upgrade is due with t mobile so is good news. You sure they didn't think it compact v as it is unlike t mobile bring out a new phone so quickly.

billu said:
My upgrade is due with t mobile so is good news. You sure they didn't think it compact v as it is unlike t mobile bring out a new phone so quickly.
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Perhaps they're releasing them simultaneously to replace Compact/Vario IV. Would make sense I reckon, but they took ages to release vario IV so I'm not that confident.

Tomo said:
I've just bought one
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Congratulations, what phone do you currently have? I ask for comparison purposes.

I have an Athena which I use mainly for using office PC in client's premises via RDP. it's a bit clunky for a phone. I had a Touch Cruise which I gave to the wife when her PDA packed up. that had everything except video out, which I find useful, currently gone back to the Universal as an interim. I voted it as 'best ever' in the poll, but it's a little old and light on memory these days (so am I probably, now that I think about it!).
I think the Pro2 will suit me for a year or so. It's mainly business use, but I like the flashy stuff as well

I just rang t mobile and although they confirmed it will come out on their network, they wouldn't commit to a time frame.

T-Mobile hasnt set a date for UK launch, the guy in my local shop has my number the day he finds out a date, and i go in there once a week to pester him (im near it ever saturday)
but i did read this
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/04/22/htc-touch-pro2-spotted-as-t-mobile-wing-ii-in-the-wild.html
which says Germany some time in June with America 22 July (all on T-Mobile network) both under thename Wing II

Does this model work with ATT bands in the US. Man, I'm really hype about this phone.

I just got off the phone with sprint in the US. They said the TP2 is releasing for the first week of June in the states and its a 100% go. They already have the tech support in place. Some Sprint stores have them in stock but are not allowed to sell any yet.

Chap i spoke to from T-Mobile (UK) said they will almost definately have them in this time next week.
Also had a reply back from Clove, it DOES have FM radio in it

Unofficial T-Mobile UK Vario 5

Well, as Zero hour is fast approaching on what i have been told by business cs at T-Mobile (UK) that the TP2 aka Vario 5 will be out on Tuesday (Subject to anymore push backs) i thought id start a thread so we can discuss our findings etc.
I will be giving them a call on Tuesday to see if i can get my grubby little hands on it and will let you all know if i get any success!
Those of you that know me from the Kaiser Section of this board will know I did the same with the Vario 3 and ended up with a huge mass of "Im calling now, cmooooon" and it was rather funny to read!
Jas

I am interested in a vario 5 too. I wonder what the price and contract will be.

Well i spoke to a chap at T-Mobile on Tuesday last week and i asked about pricing and as it wasnt out he couldnt be sure etc but said he thought that it would be free on my account which is a Business Flext 35 + WnW Pro which comes to ~£45/month.
I'll give them a call today and see what they say.

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Well i spoke to a chap at T-Mobile on Tuesday last week and i asked about pricing and as it wasnt out he couldnt be sure etc but said he thought that it would be free on my account which is a Business Flext 35 + WnW Pro which comes to ~£45/month.
I'll give them a call today and see what they say.
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I think it ought to be free for £45 a month. I currently pay half that for the basic package (including the basic webn'walk) which is OK for me.

keep us updated mate, im interested as to when they'll be getting stock, contract runs out on wednesday and mpd have been messing me about a bit!
id imagine it'll be free on a £35/month contract...

Gah, you got a date!
When I rang Orange last week I got 'within the next two weeks'.

Blimey! That would be quick... i remember when we used to wait months from a HTC release to a branded version.
I currently have a pre-order paid for and waiting for an Acer M900 and (diferences aside) I will possibly get which ever I can first .... and as i'm already on TMob, this could be the deciding factor!
Although, after my TD I swore I would never get another HTC device .....

Surely this cannot be true!!!!
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No FM Radio, but I never used it on the Touch Pro
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No FM Radio? Then its a no-buy for me. I need my Absolute Radio going around the M25 in the mornings.

I don't get why everyone trips over the missing radio. If you use the radio a lot, why not buy a portable one (they are cheap) with a 3,5 mm headphone jack.

because i'd then need to carry ANOTHER device in my very small motorbike jacket pockets - so, a converged device (Read, contains FM radio) is exactly what i need.

I just called T-Mobile UK to enquire about the availablility of this phone as I too am due an upgrade and they say it is NOT on there list for release this week
John

hardly surprising that the left hand and right hand dont know what they are doing.
Your best bet, unless your in a REAL rush, is to wait. Wasn't it supposed to be tomorrow? Surley you can wait for that

yah tmob telling me nada to tomorrow

Well an update for you all:
Ive basicly spent the entire day on the phone to T-Mobile (reorganising contracts - not just pestering them about a release date!) and ended up getting quite high up the ladder and they have started playing the "Well it is coming soon but it could be another couple of months yet" card.
To be honest and sorry to let everyone down from an update point of view, ive just ordered one sim free from work so i wont be getting any more updates from them, Although i am on the "High Priority First Call" list so they will call me as soon as it comes out.... apparently, no doubt we shall know here before they ring anyway though.
Mine should be arriving tomorrow and ill try and do a nice review of it but to be honest theres already a few in detail reviews and i doubt mine would cover anything that they havent already done.
I am looking forward to it though i must say!
Jas

i've landed myself an unbranded touchpro2/mda vario v from mobilephones direct on t-mobile uk. yep they are offering the touch pro 2 free on a 18 month contract at 39.15gbp monthly. no need for CID or security unlocks when hardspl get released etc. next delivery on all items so i think thats a smashing deal!

i also signed up with mobilesphonesdirect for the pro2 after i've been told the vario5 should be out by the end of June which i don't want to wait. i prefer the phone unlocked and in it's original design.

mobilephones direct
Can I ask how you guys are getting the phone for free. When I rang up they told me to ring tmobile and find out what my upgrade value was (it was £200). I gave mobilephones direct this and they said the phone would cost me £250 to upgrade. Have you all got higher upgrade status or was I just unlucky and spoke to the wrong person!

silverwings2008 said:
Can I ask how you guys are getting the phone for free. When I rang up they told me to ring tmobile and find out what my upgrade value was (it was £200). I gave mobilephones direct this and they said the phone would cost me £250 to upgrade. Have you all got higher upgrade status or was I just unlucky and spoke to the wrong person!
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It's free on certain NEW contracts.

shingers5 said:
i've landed myself an unbranded touchpro2/mda vario v from mobilephones direct on t-mobile uk. yep they are offering the touch pro 2 free on a 18 month contract at 39.15gbp monthly. no need for CID or security unlocks when hardspl get released etc. next delivery on all items so i think thats a smashing deal!
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You will need CID / Sec Unlock unless you got a pre-release version.
Even then most pre-rel devices are CID locked (by that I mean need Hard SPL to flash unsigned custom ROMs) still. You can check sec unlock status in the bootloader. Does it say Security unlocked at the top?
Dave

how did you get your upgrade value? I've tried and nobody from tmob will give it to me.
Neil.

Verizon TP2 release date

does anybody know the release day for the touch pro 2 for verizon?

please dont tell me you guys dont know this is sad..

it will be late...november dec

jtoyz2 said:
it will be late...november dec
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isnt the release day on Sept the 3rd? or is it just rumour?

Why not call Verizon and ask them?

dkb218 said:
Why not call Verizon and ask them?
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because they don't even know?

Release date
From the numerous information that I have obtained over many many forums and insiders and reps, my guess right now is around Sept. 15th.
Again this is just my opinion. It has to be before Oct. which is why VZW's and Sprints have WinMo 6.1. 6.5 is to release in Oct. and neither wanted to wait that long so they are gonna release it before then and I am sure there will be a ROM update to convert to 6.5
I hope this helps a little. The VZW Rep list for "Coming Soon" devices only goes up to Sept. 8th for now.

Im really hoping its early Sept, i dont see why if it was gonna be around mid Sept they wouldnt just push it back till Oct and release it with Wm6.5 instead of doing an upgrade after its released.

HTC Touch Pro2 graces Verizon on September 11
As reported in Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/04/htc-touch-pro2-graces-verizon-on-september-11/

Verizon Touch Pro 2 9/11/09
Here's another one from engadget. Not sure if I should order it tomorrow or hold off a while with my TP1.
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...touch-pro2-prices-it-right-at-200-on-contrac/

Well, since I have AT&T and they are sitting on their ass I wish i could buy the VZ version, unlock it for AT&T. And we know for sure the VZ version has a 3.5mm jack.
What is interesting is that on the VZ website it shows GSM and CDMA radios.
http://news.vzw.com/news/2009/09/pr2009-09-10.html
Wonder if it would work on both networks.

I thought I'd be able to pick up my phone today before leaving on a birthday cruise for my wife, but was disappointed to find out the TP2 was available on line only.
I attempted to order on line twice, having the system hang up on the "accessories" tab, and had to call customer service to place my order. At least my phone will be waiting when I return next week. Now I can dream about my new toy "at sea"!

Another AT&T TouchPro2 release date "leak" - November 2009

Was talking to an AT&T cancellation rep, and after 5 mins of "research" and a thoughtful sigh, she unofficially hinted at a AT&T's TP2 release date in November 2009.
I'm packing hot pockets and diapers, will be waiting for November.
For those of us that don't have to be the first kid on the block to get some new toy, it shouldn't be too much of a wait.
EDIT: Another nail in that coffin would be the release date of Fuze, November 11, 2007. Would make sense if TP2 would also be released in the same timeframe.

November 9th??!! That's ridiculous! I hope that its JUST another rumor.

darcity said:
November 9th??!! That's ridiculous! I hope that its JUST another rumor.
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Not November 9, November '09 (2009). Besides, it's what AT&T's customer service rep said, doubt she'd spread rumors.. she'd just say "no info availble bla bla bla"...
Reason she hinted the release date was (I think) because she was a cancellation rep (they got more stuff available to them), I told her that that phone is THE reason I want to switch to Verizon, and to sign another 2yr contract I NEED AT&T to have that phone.
The way she said it made it clear to me that "We have the info, it will be released come November, but I can't tell you that.". Also she repeated 3-4 times: "It will be released... in the _VERY_ near future.. VERY NEAR... say 2 months time"

The reps hardly ever know any real information far in advance. Often times people hear 10 different things from 10 different reps. If you were to go back to previous launch threads you would see how often reps give out false information, because they generally don't know.
October 2009 still makes more sense with launch of WinMo 6.5 imo.

If it's November, then AT&T better beat Verizon's up front price for the phone.
Like I'm talking the TP2 needs to cost under $250, and have at least a $50 MIR, and come with an 8GB microSD card, and an audio jack.
Seriously. It's enough to make me get an iPhone instead and just jailbreak it.

tduck said:
If it's November, then AT&T better beat Verizon's up front price for the phone.
Like I'm talking the TP2 needs to cost under $250, and have at least a $50 MIR, and come with an 8GB microSD card, and an audio jack.
Seriously. It's enough to make me get an iPhone instead and just jailbreak it.
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No way will they throw in a 8GB mircoSD. But I really hope Verizon's price forces AT&T to keep it under $299 before any possible rebate.

that's freaken ridiculous. AT&T better release the Tilt 2 in October. it doesn't make sense that they have to keep all their release dates lined up EXACTLY. they should just release it in October, it's only a month off of the Fuze's release date. I'm seriously thinking about giving up on this phone and getting an unlocked Hero. I'm getting tired of WinMo anyway. Android JUST came out, and I already like it better than WinMo.
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Like I'm talking the TP2 needs to cost under $250, and have at least a $50 MIR, and come with an 8GB microSD card, and an audio jack.
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I wouldn't hold your breath. this is another flagship phone from HTC, so it definitely won't be under 250, we're looking at something more along the lines of 300+ (look at how much the tilt and the fuze costed) AT&T will never give out a 8gb micro sd like that.

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No way will they throw in a 8GB mircoSD. But I really hope Verizon's price forces AT&T to keep it under $299 before any possible rebate.
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That $16 will KILL them.

khaytsus said:
That $16 will KILL them.
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Its not that, its just not in AT&T's nature to give things to its customers for free, with the exception of the cheap dumbphones.

October 2009 still makes more sense with launch of WinMo 6.5 imo.[/QUOTE said:
I think so too, check this oout http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...n-all-signed-up-for-winmo-6-5-launches-on-oc/
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this also makes me think that they possibly will release it on the 6th to coincide with winmo 6.5. If so then i will be ok with that. if the tp2 isn't released on that day than i'm going to another carrier. i just know i'm going to have a touch pro 2 that week.

C'mon guys, do you really think AT&T is smart enough to coincide the relase of their phone with WM6.5?! No f'ing way. I guarantee it will come out AFTER october 6th, AND it will probably have WM6.1 on it. They're going to need months and months to test their bloatware on 6.5 before they even try to release it. I'm so god damn fed up with AT&T!

well phones are getting released on the 6th and there's no doubt that they will come with bloatware. i'm sure att has already been testing there software on 6.5 builds. the question is will at&t open their iphone corrupted eyes and notice that there is a high demand for this phone in time

I believe there are leaked AT&T TP2 roms based on 6.5, been out there for a while. WinMo 6.5 was finished in May and in release to manufacturer state (http://twitter.com/wmdev/status/1797927736). So AT&T, and other carriers have had over 4 months to install their bloatware. Also the spyshot of the AT&T Tilt 2 was running WinMo 6.5
Again nothing conclusive, but lots of possible supporting evidence it will launch with WinMo 6.5.

noggind614 said:
this also makes me think that they possibly will release it on the 6th to coincide with winmo 6.5. If so then i will be ok with that. if the tp2 isn't released on that day than i'm going to another carrier. i just know i'm going to have a touch pro 2 that week.
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Microsoft claims that WM6.5 phones will be widely available, IN STORES on Oct 6th. What phones might Microsoft be talking about, exactly, do you think?

Omnia Pro? jk Tp is def coming out on Oct. Dont think nov is realistic

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Dont think nov is realistic
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Yeah, I'd be pretty surprised if AT&T was THAT far behind the other carriers (esp T-MO). I'd guess it's ready right now, and only waiting for the WM6.5 official launch, or it'd be out already.
Of course, now that I've said that, AT&T will push it back to December and drop it back to WM6.1

*cough* *cough*

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AND ALL MY SECRET AT&T BETA TEST DEVICES
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So wait... you're saying you're beta testing a new WM6.5 version of the Fuze that's coming out instead of a TP2?

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Microsoft claims that WM6.5 phones will be widely available, IN STORES on Oct 6th. What phones might Microsoft be talking about, exactly, do you think?
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one phone that is confirmed for a release on the 6th is the htc touch2(not touch pro).
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/htc-touch2-launching-october-6th-with-windows-mobile-6-5/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/windows-mobile-6-5-cellphones-coming-october-6th/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/atandt-sprint-verizon-all-signed-up-for-winmo-6-5-launches-on-oc/
any other phone is unconfirmed. i'm just hoping that the at&t touch pro 2 will be one of them.

Order / Pre-order thread

Just pre-ordered the white Lumia 900 from Negri Electronics! W00t!

lucky you, i will use my att upgrade to get one

Same here. It was crazy spontaneous, but I am in LOVE with the hardware, and have wanted a white phone (but not an iPhone) forever, LOL. I've been only iphone (couple years ago), and since then only android. Not sure I'm ready for the WP7 switch, but willing to give it a go!

Do you guys think these will be LTE capable? It says so on the Negri Electronics order page, BUT I'm reading articles that say it's the international white version that won't be LTE capable...
http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/02/15/phone.most.likely.3g.vbut.not.lte.4g.capable/

Interesting. Personally, I don't live in an LTE area, so it won't bother me if it is only HSPA. I'm hoping the white lumia is released earlier than the locked ATT version.
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Do you guys think these will be LTE capable? It says so on the Negri Electronics order page, BUT I'm reading articles that say it's the international white version that won't be LTE capable...
http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/02/15/phone.most.likely.3g.vbut.not.lte.4g.capable/
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I just want nokia to release to damm phone already.

lovenokia said:
I just want nokia to release to damm phone already.
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Indeed, sir. Indeed. Looking for a black one myself.

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Interesting. Personally, I don't live in an LTE area, so it won't bother me if it is only HSPA. I'm hoping the white lumia is released earlier than the locked ATT version.
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Well, now that LTE is available in STL, I'm going to wait for the Cyan AT&T version. HURRY UP!

I'm also considering the white lumia 900. I have the Titan now but the locked internet sharing by ATT is pissing me off (especially since I'm using it unlocked on a Canadian carrier) and the fact I have one of the early models with defective ram is enough for me to want to switch phones.
BUT I will miss the bigger screen size, loud speaker and HTC apps.. Also interested in comparing the LTE speeds to 4G. I've heard that the external speaker on the lumia 800 sucks. As well I heard the battery life is significantly worse than the Titan. I'm curious if these "cons" will be translated over to the lumia 900 as well.. These are all possible deal breakers for me.
Can anyone confirm that when the unlocked model does become available if this model will support the ATT bands 100%? I really need the unlocked tethering this time around.

I pre-ordered it the first day of availability from the MS Store in Costa Mesa. They seemed to know all about it, and said yes it would be 4G/LTE on att. Can't wait to get my hands on it, but why wait so long after CES to release? Especially when you lose all the positive press and with the Ipad3 release comming the same time. I would have thought they would have released it quickly.

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I pre-ordered it the first day of availability from the MS Store in Costa Mesa. They seemed to know all about it, and said yes it would be 4G/LTE on att. Can't wait to get my hands on it, but why wait so long after CES to release? Especially when you lose all the positive press and with the Ipad3 release comming the same time. I would have thought they would have released it quickly.
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I'm just as anxious as you to get it. My guess is they will announce the date come MWC next week, which should get quite a bit of press. Hopefully the date will be sometime early march!

I was never this excited about the Iphone. I used to have a HTC 3125 that was windows based, and I really loved using it. I don't mind the Iphone, and I love the fact that just works, but I have had to fix it 3 times, (broken screen, water damage, etc) and now to upgrade to a 4S or 5 and have to pay 400+ dollars, thats too much for a phone. If the rumours are true and the 900 comes in at $100 bucks, I'm thinking this could spell a lot of trouble for Android phones.
I also saw a rumour that Instagram may have the an WP7 app before they get an android app out. Give me that and a Pandora App, and Words with Friends, and I would be completely happy.

This is the WP7 device I'm interested in. I've been interested in it ever since they made it official. Nokia makes the best hardware IMO, and their reception and call quality is top notch.
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This YT's out of MWC are fantastically tantalizing. I'm concerned about the lack of LTE in my neck of the woods killing the battery, but, Dear God:
Just Release It Already!
It's killing me...

Release Date
April 8th in the US.

alodar1 said:
April 8th in the US.
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April 8th in the UK for the 900 World Edition. Nothing official on the US release date except for the March 18th rumor.

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April 8th in the UK for the 900 World Edition. Nothing official on the US release date except for the March 18th rumor.
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I was in an at&t store yesterday, when the nokia rep came in with the 900. He said an April 8th launch for AT&T. Grain of salt.

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I was in an at&t store yesterday, when the nokia rep came in with the 900. He said an April 8th launch for AT&T. Grain of salt.
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AT&T has a habit of releasing new phones on Sundays, so April 8th part of the rumor lines up nicely.

AT&T's releases though are usually on the 1st and 3rd Sundays according to the manager of my local corporate store. I still have my fingers crossed for March 18th if we could get that lucky.

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AT&T's releases though are usually on the 1st and 3rd Sundays according to the manager of my local corporate store. I still have my fingers crossed for March 18th if we could get that lucky.
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Well, 18th is a third Sunday of the month so maybe we will see it even sooner then rumored April 8th date.