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Timeout-Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device

I have a couple of POP3 accounts on my O2 XDAIIs. I used to be able to download my email from ISP without problems.
Lately, when there is any email waiting, it will connect and try to download and pop up the following message "Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device. Make sure you are connected and that your e-mail account settings are correct. Then, try to download messages again."
The other POP3 accounts work fine, even with the same ISP, and this POP3 account used to work when I first got the unit. The POP3 account in question works fine from my Treo using the same SIM card (I have Cingular).
I searched all over the web and forums, I see many have the problem and some have not been able to resolve it. I tried:
1) Soft and Hard Reset
2) Deleting and reentering the account
3) Used the Sprite Mail cleanup utility (which basically cleans all emails and attachments)
4) Tried a registry key that had worked for some: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox, create new DWORD ForceOffSSL and give it a value of 1.
5) Checked with my ISP – they could not see any problem with the account and works with anything else but my O2 XDA IIs.
6) I tried the Flemail 2006 program (formerly WebIS) and it worled for email. But the program is so buggy and slow that I had to delete it. This tells me the problem is with the native pocket outlook.
If there is NO email, it will connect, check and disconnect with no error.
There is a timeout somewhere. The other accounts can connect and download without problems.
Has anybody else had this problem and does anybody have any suggestions?
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No one else has had this problem? Any suggestions?
I know it is device specific as it works on the same GSM account on a Treo.

PPC6700 with same problem
I just purchased the PPC 6700 and I love the device itself, but I have had many problems with it after owning it for only 4 days.
1. Sprint failed to let me know that my phone had to be updated. Thanks! I only found out about this update after 1 hour of phone tech support trying to find out why my phone randomly went into flight mode. What a pain in the ***.
2. I have my own servers and cannot download my mail from them or my home isp. Sprint by the way repeatedly told me this must be an issue with you server. I told him after being on the phone for 3 hours (I could tell he wasn't happy) "You must be right! Microsoft has always developed software much more then anything ever put out in the Unix world".
So the only help I guess I can offer to you is "Yes, I have the same problem with the native outlook that comes with WM5.0

likegadgets said:
No one else has had this problem? Any suggestions?
I know it is device specific as it works on the same GSM account on a Treo.
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Whenever I see this (and I see it a alot) on mt XDA IIs, I just select Accounts|Clear <account>
If it doesnt work immediately then I restart the Outlook Inbox app and/or disconnect/reconnect.
Been through searching registry/deleting this & that database file / re/installing accounts. Havent had to do that for ages.
I access 5-6 pop accounts from various servers, several are my wife's. My bet is that it has something to do with whether the current status of the emails downloaded in your device matches the server etc - due to the function that you can delete the emails from the server by downloading, deleting and then deleting from the 'deleted items' folder and re-sycning
HTH

ME TOO! Any resolution??
I am having the SAME EXACT PROBLEM with my new 6700...did you ever find a resolution?
THanks,

I am having the same problem on a Hermes / TyTN.
My first TyTN was fine. I have 3 email accounts. 1 uses SSL and the other 2 don't. There were no problems using either account.
Having replaced my 1st TyTN with a new one (due to poor wifi on first device) I now get the message 'Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device. Make sure you are connected and that your e-mail account settings are correct. Then, try to download messages again'.
The only solution is to use the ForceOffSSL setting for my 2 none-SSL POP3 accounts. Then I have to reboot the TyTN without the ForceOffSSL settings to use my SSL POP3 account.
Continually changing the ForceOffSSL setting and rebooting is annoying, so for the time being I'm using nPOP email client for my non-SSL accounts.

getting an email timed out on cingular 8525
I am getting the same message 'Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device. Make sure you are connected and that your e-mail account settings are correct. Then, try to download messages again'. I am having the same problem intermittently with Htc Tytn with a pop account yahoo. I seem to connect without a problem on the internet but i do get this error intermittently. any solution?

Same here ... cannot send mail via OptOnline Account
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OK...I got a resolution to this last night on the Cingular forum.
Quick answer is that OOL's SMTP Server is locked down. I needed to change the outgoing server to Cingular's (CWMX.com).
Thanks to anyone who took the time to click-in on this thread.
Happy New Year, all!
-pvs
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Hi all, OK, this marks my first post on this board. I've been a lurker for a few months, and have settled into a Cingular 8525 as my first Pocket PC Phone.
I noticed a few days ago that I could not send mail via my OptOnline Account, unless I was using WiFi or the 8525 was tethered to my home PC via ActiveSync. I was thnking all along that it was probably due to some piece of third party software that I installed over the past few weeks (a hearty thanks to all on these forums who develop and/or market their wonderful wares, btw).
But today, for a lack of anything else to do, I hard reset and tried simply setting up that one account to try my machine out in its pure form. Lo and behold, I still get the same error, 'Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device. Make sure you are connected and that your e-mail account settings are correct. Then, try to download messages again.'
As a matter of fact, it seems this message itself is in error, since it happens when I try to SEND a message, not when I try to receive them. I have even received emails in this account at the same time this error message appears, but at any rate, messages in my outbox do not get sent.
As far as I can tell, all the settings are correct. I have played with them, and tried all the permutations I can think of, but this baby will not send mail via this account. My XpressMail and Hotmail accounts work fine, both sending and receiving, and I can browse the web fine via My ISP or WiFi.
I have spent a lot of time searching the web for an answer to this problem, but it seems it's been quite prevalent with WM5.0 devices for well over a year, and still does not have an answer.
So ... my first post ... which should have been a thank you all, and Happy New Year, has turned into a request for the talents of you folk who know so much more than I regarding these devices.
Can anyone please lend a hand? Also ... is it "legal" to cross-post this message onto other forums on this board?
Thanks so much to anyone who can provide a solution.
-Paul Slabowski (a.k.a. pvs)

I got it working
Like others in this thread I was getting the "unable to download messages to device" error when sending. My solution is:
Try leaving the 'domain' field blank.
It's on the Server Information page, and also on the Outgoing Settings if you 'Use separate settings' for your outgoing server.
Hope this helps you.
Rich

Domian Blank
My Domain is blank and frankly im just getting very agrivated by this. Does anybody eles have other advice to give towards this "cannot download message"?

I've got WM6, I've tried clearing and deleting the account, soft resetting the phone, making sure the domain field is empty, etc. It still gives this error for my POP account while my IMAP account is fine. Anyone find a solution?

Yes, deleting the domain really works in some cases (f.e. Gmail), but the same error occurs in my other account although I delete the domain. And funny thing is that it occurs only when there are some emails in outbox, receiving emails seems to work normnally :S

I'm still encountering this problem after trying everything on this post...
any other ideas?

Just had the same problem tonight. My mail server recently changed IP addresses, so I suspect DNS issues were the cause of my problem. I tried using the new IP address in place of the host name, but that didn't work for me. The account settings didn't seem fixable. Deleting the email account entirely and adding it back did the trick.

Mail seems to randomly dissappear!

Hi,
I seem to be having an issue with the new stock 6.5 rom (Also had issue with other rom). I have an outlook account that uses an exchange server and that works fine with approx 7 days retention.
But I have another pop3/smtp account that although it retrieves and sends OK. It seems to be randomly dropping the emials. I build up 1-2 days of email, only 7-10items after deleting the usual spam. but then they all dissapear.
I would like to have a rolling 7 days of emails on this personal account.
Anyone else have this issue or do you know the solution to extend the number of days mail you keep on an email?
Ta

Same Problem
I am having the same problem with my Gmail emails being randomly deleted. For me it seems to be a time limit, after too many days of the same emails it deletes them. Originally I had this problem when I was archiving incoming mail. Everything was fine for about a week after I set gmail to not instantly archive mail. I have installed htc addicts clear ram, could that be deleting my emails from the inbox? Any help is appreciated.

Not sure if this is your problem or not - but...
Go to MESSAGING, highlight the account you are having issues with, click MENU, OPTIONS, click the account you are having issues with, click SEND/RECEIVE SCHEDULE, and change the DOWNLOAD MESSAGES: to the value you want...
Also - if you click ADVANCED from that screen you can select what you want for DELETING MESSAGES (keep/delete from server)

I finally solved it by changing over to IMAP rather than pop3. Also changed to a custom rom!!!

see what happens
Thanks nayr1482, I have tried that and it didnt blow up and so far nothing has been deleted. We will see what happens.

Exchange sync not working

Had the Desire for about a week and like it a lot but will have to return it because Exchange sync doesn't work and that's a key feature for me.
1. Set up account and set 1 home screen to the mail widget and for a couple of days it worked perfectly until I saw new emails on the home screen widget that didn't appear in the mail app itself! How can the widget apparently be more up to date than the source of the data - the mail app?
2. After this could no longer sync e-mail - it appears that contacts and calendar sync but e-mail shows "sync protocol error"
3. Removed account and set it up again and it worked perfectly for about 24 hours and then exactly the same thing happened. Removed account, removed battery, reset account and its working again....for about a day before I get the same result (home screen widget showing e-mails that aren't showing on the mail app itself and I get sync error).
4. Removed all apps and reset to factory settings and set up account again but the same thing has happened again after about a day. It seems that if it tries to sync and can't connect because there's no signal eg I'm on underground then it locks and can no longer sync
It's Microsoft Exchange server 2003 SP2 and colleagues have no problem with i phones or blackberries and I've been using WM phones for years without any problems. Unfortunately phone is useless to me if this doesn't work and disappointed that HTC claiming feature that in my case clearly doesnt work

More information on above
Forgot to say that although I wasn't getting any e-mail update I was able to send e-mails all the time that this was going on! So I could send but not receive.

apart from a similar issue the first few days in, my Desire sync's fine with my exchange 2007 server. although I've not used the mail widget
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fredfox_uk said:
apart from a similar issue the first few days in, my Desire sync's fine with my exchange 2007 server. although I've not used the mail widget
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After posting the above, I had this happen again this evening. If occurred when the connection changed from "H" to "G" I'm missing 55 mails
I'll have to try and figure out what's happening

I've had exchange working great for the last 3 weeks. Then it decided to stop working. I've deleted the account and re created it and no joy. Just won't sync. I'm gonna try with moxier now and see if that works.
Sent from my HTC Desire

Identical problem here with my Desire.
It is not just a simple receive problem because I can delete emails from the main "Inbox" folder, than switch to the "Deleted Items" folder, sync and retreive the emails I've just deleted.
But syncing the main "Inbox" folder is not working anymore.
Seems like internal index data for that folder is broken.
This is not a server problem because just deleting the sync account and re-creating it magically fixes it until something screws up again.
This is clearly a case of bad application coding. Damn try-catch statements

Had the same problem myself on 2 different phones, I found that going into account settings and doing a save without changing anything (it says it is checking your password) fixes it.
Seems to happen if you make a lot of changes via outlook and the phone looses its place.
LM

MufDvr said:
Had the same problem myself on 2 different phones, I found that going into account settings and doing a save without changing anything (it says it is checking your password) fixes it.
Seems to happen if you make a lot of changes via outlook and the phone looses its place.
LM
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Tried, but does not work for me.

I wonder if the application event logs on the Exchange server will give more information on the failure? Is SSL set up correctly? Some people have been having problems with self-issued certificates.

fredfox_uk said:
After posting the above, I had this happen again this evening. If occurred when the connection changed from "H" to "G" I'm missing 55 mails
I'll have to try and figure out what's happening
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Funny you mention about it breaking when going from "H" to "G". I thought I had seen bandwidth related success with my exchange syncing. On WIFI, I could sync the whole inbox, but I would get failures when trying on 3G. I then reduced the inbox to "last 7 days only" and it worked. Going back to higher bandwidth, suddenly I could have the whole inbox without sync errors.

Deleting & recreating Exchange sync account works
For me, deleting and recreating the Exchange sync account workedto get rid of "Sync protocol error". Not funny, but at least there's a way out.

So far so good...
Suspecting some local index file is broken if the sync task is suddenly aborted, I have avoided killing any task and guess what ? So far so good...
Will keep you informed.
P.S. Even if this is the real issue, the sync code is BROKEN.

Hi,
Has anybody gotten to the bottom of this? I've found several threads about the same error across several HTC phones on several different forums.
Deleting and re-adding the account seems like a last resort?
All my contacts are synched via Exchange so if i delete it i assume i lose all of them? And then would i lose corresponding text messages? Anything else? Do all my links to Facebook, Flickr etc get lost? I can see some weird strings of code in my contacts on Outlook now so is the Desire clever enough to pick these up and link everything back together again?
If i can get everything back by just re-adding the account then I'll give it a go but it really does seem far from ideal.

Hi all,
Sorry to bump but i've still not taken the step of deleting my exchange account through fear of losing information.
Obviously it will delete my contacts but will it also delete corresponding SMSs, links to facebook, twitter etc (in Outlook I can see some funny code strings in each contact which i think may be the links)?
Basically, will anything be permanently lost or will i simply need to re-add the account to get everything back as it was?
Is there a way to back up my contacts first? HTC Sync?
Thanks

When I removed an Exchange account from the stock mail app it didn't remove the linking data (which appears in the notes field of your contacts). And there would be no reason for it to delete SMSes, although with the contacts gone, it may not be able to link the phone numbers to names.
HTC Sync could sync your contacts to a separate Outlook installation, or you could use one of the many backup apps (search around here for reviews).

I've only had my Desire for 24 hours but I elected to go with Touchdown right from the get-go after advice from a colleague. So far, it's working a treat (fingers crossed it stays that way). Is anyone here using TD and experiencing these issues, or is it just with the native mail app?

I have a simular issue where Exchange mail stops receiving and sending emails. I only pick up that there is an issue, when attempting to send a email.
This happens regularly, and I have reported this issue to HTC.
My fix when this occurs is to untick and retick SSL option and save.

Well i've removed and re-added the exchange account and so far everything seems to be working ok. Will keep you folks posted - hopefully it doesn't happen again!

Chaps,
Just joined, but I think I have your answer... Task Killer. If you run any of the task killer apps, they can kill the exchange as it is happening, leaving the inbox status in a corrupt state, and the only way to fix this is to delete the account and start over. But then, if the task killer kills the sync, you will have to do it oveer, and over again. Task Killers are great for killing the main apps, but use them on the desire in manual mode only, and only kill the main apps, not the background processes.
Regards
Jaffa

I don't believe it is caused by task killers - I use Advanced Task Killer but it doesn't even list email as open even though it is. I noticed my inbox started having issues after changing sync from 7 days to 14 - it kept re-downloading the last few messages, then after 1 day simply stopped updating the inbox. All other folders fine. I suspect it's a space/size issue - some reports from POP users sound similar. HTC / Android really need to address this. Slowly getting sick of my HTC Legend...(Legendary failure!)

No Push email after 1.21 update?

I have a de-branded Orange Desire and I applied the OTA update with a goldcard in. Everything seems to be working ok except for push email.
I have tried deleting all the stored details (cache etc) of google mail, HTC mail etc which is recommended when others have had problems with push email.
So anyone else noticed any issues? Is there a problem with gmail which happens to have co-incided with when I did the update or is this a problem with the update?

OK I have done some more playing and I am fairly sure that update has broken this.
on 1.15 I was getting push notifications from my gmail account (I think anyway...) in the HTC mail app. Now I am not
I have just re-enabled notifications in the google mail app and this now pops up as soon as I send a message from my PC. No matter what I do the HTC app does not seem to want to play.
Even when set to sync every 15 minutes this did not seem to want to pick up any email (it did work sometimes but not consistently).
I much prefer the HTC mail app (and widget) to the google one but as it stands I can only get notifications from google. I did think I could just leave google app for notifications and mail app for checking but the google notifications do not get cleared when you open HTC app which is a tad annoying.
Anyone else suffering from similar issues or have some ideas about what the best solution might be?

I had the same problem. I am on a debranded and updated rom but using the Orange network.
I found that my email was not being pulled down from two POP accounts. Everytime I adjusted settings I recieved messages about not connected to server etc or host cannot be found etc.
about 24 hours later it all works great... emails come in properly and I can send. It might be worth setting it up. checking that you have a network connection to Orange and that you have set your auto download times. Then leave it to get on with it for a while.

GMail has continued to push mail to my phone fine since the update, however my other two email accounts (one IMAP and one Exchange ActiveSync) which are polled often stop sync'ing until I do it manually. The same also appears to be true of my other sync accounts... Facebook and Twitter. I haven't been able to work out what causes them to stop sync'ing, and what later then enables them to randomly start sync'ing again. It's annoying, it makes sync and notifications for these services totally worthless because you can't just assume it's working, you always have to manually check.
Another way in which HTC has let itself down with poor s/w quality, IMHO

No problems for me here in my debranded Orange black Desire
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Gmail still working fine, FB and Twitter (official app) both update as expected every hour...don't use any other email as my phone is setup for my DJ work

I'm getting the same issue, GMail is fine but push email through Exchange isn't happening.
Presumably it's one of the reasons TMobile has now pulled the update. Hopefully a fix will be out soon

HTC Exchange Mail Sending Issue

I have set up Exchange on my EVO and I am having an issue sending emails. Every time I try to send a new email, I got an error on the phone "Unable to send mail" and the email goes into the Outbox.
This is where it gets weird. The email does actually get sent, but it's sent 5 times. The really strange thing is that if I reply to an email I already have, it works fine with no errors. Everything else works perfect (Contacts, Calendar,polling, etc..)
I downloaded Moxier Mail to test that. Moixer mail sent the new emails with no issues so I think this has something to do with the HTC Mail app.
When I first got the phone this seemed to to work fine. I noticed this issue after I installed LockPicker. I uninstalled Lockpicker, but was still having a problem. With no other option, I did a hard reset and just setup exchange, but still got the error so I don't think lockpicker is the issue.
Any help would be awesome!
(By the way, I work for a company with 13,000 employees and they don't support Android so I can't do anything on that side)

Have you tried deleting the account from the HTC Mail App and then re-adding it? I've found every once in a while (when I was trying out the Eris) that it gets flaky and the easy fix is just to delete the account and re-add it.

Thank you for the suggestion, but I have tried that a couple times with no luck. As I mentioned, I even tried a hard reset and still got the error.

Is the email server actually an exchange server? Mine is a zimbra server and has a known issue with HTC exchange mail. This is being fixed in the 6.07 server update that rolls out in a couple weeks. Till then I've disabled email sync on the zimbra/exchange account and am using IMAP for email.
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