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Will Desire be updated to Android 2.2?

I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?

i think it will but there will be a slight delay as HTC need to update Sense to work with 2.2 whereas the N1 has no overlays so can be updated as soon as the update is released
daming said:
I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?
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daming said:
I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?
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I wouldn't count on that.
HTC Hero used to be the top of the line before the Legend and the Desire came out. I think the Hero was launched in September, but until now the latest """Rumors""" say it will be updated to 2.1 in June.
Not to mention, android 1.5 on the Hero has limitations, which naturally should become a reason for updating, but yet, that wasn't good enough.
So worrying about it is just a waste of callories
But when the Desire gets rooted, we'll have plently of cooked 2.2, 2.5... etc Roms

If 2.2 is when their "Defragmentation Solving" thing comes into effect then probably yes.
Because in theory, HTC wouldn't have to do anything, sense and all the apps would happily run on top of 2.2 as separate apps.

They had better... Flash 10.1, DivX and 720p recording depend on it.

brummiesteven said:
If 2.2 is when their "Defragmentation Solving" thing comes into effect then probably yes.
Because in theory, HTC wouldn't have to do anything, sense and all the apps would happily run on top of 2.2 as separate apps.
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Still, it will take HTC alot of work to migrate to 2.2 in the first place. After which defragmentation concept can be applied.
Anyway, the complexity of it will be clear when that feature is out.

abc27 said:
They had better... Flash 10.1, DivX and 720p recording depend on it.
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Did you read this somewhere?

salahag said:
Did you read this somewhere?
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Flash 10.1 is definitley in FroYo. DivX and 720P recording was something HTC promised to be released in an update after the desire was launched so to me it makes sense that FroYo would be the update.

Look at it this way...HTC supposedly take such a long time because they build Sense to integrate tightly with the underlying OS. It's hooked in. The direction Google is taking is going to mean Sense is a separate self standing app/service...so HTC now have to re-write it probably from the ground up. That's not a trivial task if that's what this means.

abc27 said:
Flash 10.1 is definitley in FroYo. DivX and 720P recording was something HTC promised to be released in an update after the desire was launched so to me it makes sense that FroYo would be the update.
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You're right, all these are promised to be coming to the Desire, and Flash 10.1 is rumored to be coming to Nexus 1 with Froyo.
But that doesn't mean all these features require the update to Froyo, at least I hope so, or the Desire will have to wait for a long time.

salahag said:
I wouldn't count on that.
HTC Hero used to be the top of the line before the Legend and the Desire came out. I think the Hero was launched in September, but until now the latest """Rumors""" say it will be updated to 2.1 in June.
Not to mention, android 1.5 on the Hero has limitations, which naturally should become a reason for updating, but yet, that wasn't good enough.
So worrying about it is just a waste of callories
But when the Desire gets rooted, we'll have plently of cooked 2.2, 2.5... etc Roms
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I agree with you, waiting for 'rooted'.

daming said:
I agree with you, waiting for 'rooted'.
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I can't wait to root mine. Good thing is that it won't affect the warranty unlike the Nexus One.

I REALLY hope that the seperated update stuff will be here sooner than later. I am actually quite surprised since I got the Hero that it's not in Android to start with.
And it's the only way Google can avoid fragmentation, which imho is one of the biggest threat to the platform so far.
Warranty issue also depends on where you live. They can put in as much warranty void thingies in as they want. But when my phone has a hardware issue and they don't want to fix because I changed something in the software they will be in trouble. And then they can try and prove my software change damaged the hardware.

I thought it was the other way around?
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I can't wait to root mine. Good thing is that it won't affect the warranty unlike the Nexus One.
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Also, don't forget that HTC has access to early builds and source of future versions because they are building terminals based on it. Porting Sense is probably being done right now, they don't have to wait like we do.

mtbmtbmtb said:
I thought it was the other way around?
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It's not check the thread I made "Rooting and warranty statement"

My missus works for Vodafone and had a visit from HTC last week promoting the Legend and Desire. They told her that 2.2 would be coming to both but she didn't think to ask when.
So, yes.

Noiz said:
My missus works for Vodafone and had a visit from HTC last week promoting the Legend and Desire. They told her that 2.2 would be coming to both but she didn't think to ask when.
So, yes.
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Your wife has made many people here very happy...
Joking aside that's really good news

root achieved

just saw in Twitter Paul has rooted the phone..... with full permissions.... what a guy.....
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

Yep, he says full instructions coming tomorow. Can't wait!

This is just great

Brilliant! can't wait

It's like Christmas

WOW this guy is good so rom devs coocks chiefs creators here we go

Can't wait to get Market Enabler and Wireless Tether on my Desire.
Also gonna be curious about what the custom ROM's are gonna add to the phone
Go Paul!!

I can't wait to get rid of Sense!
(And before all the bloody "Why didn't you get a Nexus One"-comments it's because it's more expensive, has less ram and isnt available in Norway (like so many other things ))

" PaulOBrien Right, all being well, root coming for all Desire owners tomorrow! (must eat now!)"
Cheers for Paul job well done indeed

Would we able to import CM5 over?
And would that delete sense? Maybe the modaco kitchen could add sense to CM5

Time to get a good divx player ported to the Desire now that root seems to be there.

mockillo said:
I can't wait to get rid of Sense!
(And before all the bloody "Why didn't you get a Nexus One"-comments it's because it's more expensive, has less ram and isnt available in Norway (like so many other things ))
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Just install Helixlauncher or many of the other launcher alternatives and forget about Sense

Just bought 2 desire's yesterday.... (one for the miss ) and I have to say it's the smootest and fastest phone yet!! can wait to root this baby and get the real business going

I'm sooo excited... and I just can't hide it
Let the Flashing commence!

Awesome =)
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Hell yeah!!
I got my Desire just a few days ago (dumped Magic for it) and I already miss MarketAccess.
The phone itself rocks and I love it! I just hope HTC will get their sh** together and keep us up to date with official (drivers!) Android updates.

http://twitpic.com/1iwzwx
Congrats to Paul, he is the Man, I just bought my Desire a few days ago and wasn't expecting it would get done so soon, can't wait to get mine rooted.

cagra said:
Just install Helixlauncher or many of the other launcher alternatives and forget about Sense
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Yeees, because the launcher is the only thing in Sense, huh? =P

Very happy - /hail Paul O'Brien
Paul,
I am forever thankful to you. And not even so much because of Wireless Tether for root users.. Mainly because google is too ****ing stupid atm to quickly solve the app storage problem, and the only way to get apps stored on your SD is apps2sd.. So hope to see some cool ROMs... Thank you so much!

Fantastic news....
Great, looking forward to some great ROMS coming up.

HTC: expect Desire to get Froyo 'beginning in Q3'

Finally a word from HTC!!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/29/htc-expect-desire-legend-and-wildfire-to-get-froyo-beginning/

Ahhh, you beat me! I rushed straight over from Engadget to tell you all the good news aswell!

Afro Az said:
Ahhh, you beat me! I rushed straight over from Engadget to tell you all the good news aswell!
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lolz, better luck when ginger comes out!
anyways, all that matters is the news is here!!

Beat me to it too!!
Great news. Although I wonder what they mean by "beginning IN Q3" (as opposed to "beginning of Q3"). I'm assuming it means that just one of those phones will see Froyo at some point in Q3. In which case, let's hope the Desire is the first. It should need the least work over the N1 compared to the others (I guess). Still, Q3 stretches all the way out to September. But great news nevertheless. Lets just hope they can deliver.

tifosi256 said:
Beat me to it too!!
Great news. Although I wonder what they mean by "beginning IN Q3" (as opposed to "beginning of Q3"). I'm assuming it means that just one of those phones will see Froyo at some point in Q3. In which case, let's hope the Desire is the first. It should need the least work over the N1 compared to the others (I guess). Still, Q3 stretches all the way out to September. But great news nevertheless. Lets just hope they can deliver.
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I guess its either going to be the Evo4G or the Desire, because they are the flagship devices from HTC at the moment, legend and the other ones will be getting it later on.

HTC after Google IO (when froyo was officialy shown to the world):
'Blablabla all 2010 models get froyo. We are STARTING with the Desire and Incredible. Other models as the Evo 4G will get it after.'
Off course they could have changed their strategy. But I am expecting froyo before the Legend and Wildfire.
Great news anyway, starting from a few days we could get froyo. I am sooooooooo F'in tired of the 'low internal memory' notification. I cant even open my SMS messages sometimes for the love of god! I mean, come on. My SMS messages -.-

XDA mark said:
HTC after Google IO (when froyo was officialy shown to the world):
'Blablabla all 2010 models get froyo. We are STARTING with the Desire and Incredible. Other models as the Evo 4G will get it after.'
Off course they could have changed their strategy. But I am expecting froyo before the Legend and Wildfire.
Great news anyway, starting from a few days we could get froyo. I am sooooooooo F'in tired of the 'low internal memory' notification. I cant even open my SMS messages sometimes for the love of god! I mean, come on. My SMS messages -.-
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lmao @ your signature!!

that means any time starting from next week

True that. I'm glad that the speculation can end now with the official statement. Let the waiting begin.

I am not convinced ... Q3 2010 ? or Q3 2011 ?
/jk

This is great news Hope soon and polished

Hoping for July then

I would love it to have in Q3, but we probably will get it as a xmas present ...

dragonithe said:
I would love it to have in Q3, but we probably will get it as a xmas present ...
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Hopefully the HTC team learnt something from the Hero saga (i actually gave my hero back and got desire becuase of 2.1)

Well, technically, Q3 begins in 2 days.

dragonithe said:
I would love it to have in Q3, but we probably will get it as a xmas present ...
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Nee hoor
I think the competition has changed for HTC. Why would somebody pick up a 2.1 Desire when a 2.2 Motorola or Samsung device is right next to it? With the Hero they didn't have any big competition like now.
Btw, I have seen multiple people say that going from 2.1 to 2.2 is not so hard (compared from 1.5 to 2.1 with the Hero's hardware). Is this true?

Rage1ofakind said:
Hopefully the HTC team learnt something from the Hero saga (i actually gave my hero back and got desire becuase of 2.1)
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Yeah, not updating current phones increases our sales

Finally i hope it is soon

Just got my HTC Desire this week. Here's hoping to a quick update, i don't want to root it just yet for the Hebrew support if 2.2 (who has the fonts) is around the corner.

OMG!
I'll pray for this to happen man.
Srsly need the update.
you don't know how crazy it is.
I have never been a like phone freak, phone nerd of whatever you call it.
But since the desire and that froyo 2.2 video update thing
you just want the update badly.
And btw i tasted a real frozen yoghurt. And it just makes you sad.
cause you'll be like. If only this was inside my phone.
Seriously.
2.2 PLEASE!

Official Froyo for HTC Desire possibly in the beginning of August

Hi @ all
I know it wont be a 100% reliable news but I thought it would interest some of you.
A friend of mine ordered a HTC Desire at Sunrise (Swiss Operator). She was told that the delivery will be postponed to the beginning of August due to the fact that the device will be delivered with version 2.2 of Android aka Froyo.
That would mean that we could possibly get the official Froyo by the end of July for unbranded devices.
Hope the staff at Sunrise is reliable and the info is right!!!
We will know more in about one month.
Sorry if the news has already been posted before.
Sinerely,
Ascenca

Interesting

Well, HTC Customer Service reps got the date wrong for this. So I doubt that a network service provider rep has that much information.
I have a feeling your friend couldn't get a Desire because of the same problem that the Droid Incredible is facing. HTC has a shortage of AMOLED screens.
See here. http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/veri...le-shortage-due-to-amoled-production-shortage
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas

ohyeahar said:
Well, HTC Customer Service reps got the date wrong for this. So I doubt that a network service provider rep has that much information.
I have a feeling your friend couldn't get a Desire because of the same problem that the Droid Incredible is facing. HTC has a shortage of AMOLED screens.
See here. http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/veri...le-shortage-due-to-amoled-production-shortage
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas
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Thanks für your reply.
I am aware of the shortage of AMOLED displays and the recent PR statement of HTC. I dont pretend my info is right, only wanted to share what I heard. Nevertheless I think August could be possible. The PR guy said that all newer devices (Desire, Legend, etc.) will get Froyo by Christmas. The HTC Desire being their top end device at the moment in Europe I assume it will get the update first. And I am quite sure that they wont provide the update to all devices at the same time. So lets hope for it to be true .
Ascenca

ohyeahar said:
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas
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There's no timetable there at all - it just says that they'll be finished with Froyo updates before Xmas. Well, August is before Xmas, as is September, October, November and most of December!
What we do know is that HTC have gone on record to say that they are expecting the first updates to roll out in Q3, but we don't know which devices will get it first.
Regards,
Dave

http://phandroid.com/2010/07/06/htc-to-complete-android-2-2-roll-out-by-christmas/
Lets hope it's true and the Desire gets 2.2 in August before the other phones, but i must admit that 2.1 is great and i have no issues with it so am happy to wait whenever it comes out.

It takes time to port all of our applications over to Froyo and then make sure that it is running well on each of our devices. That’s not like a one week kind of project. We need to make sure that our applications are taking advantage of the Froyo features. To make sure that they’re all running properly on the OS now that it’s a new version. And then to make sure that it’s running on our hardware as well as we expect. I would believe that we would be done with our Froyo updates before Christmas.
This was an intervjue with Eric Lin HTC PR dude
Source http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/34139/htc-froyo-update-delays-explained

That's no good. I'm going on holidays at the beginning of August lol
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

It seems alot of the replies in this thread don't take into account the fact that a HTC 2.2 test rom with sense has already been leaked to certain people and was mostly working. So HTC are pretty far along in development already.

Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?

SperVaxjo said:
Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?
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I think this is cos they want to prevent what happened with the 2.1 Update for the HTC Hero (more than a half year between announcement and shipment, at least in europe).
Better to make promises they can hold. So the Christmas announcement makes completly sense to me.
Ascenca

Ascenca83 said:
I think this is cos they want to prevent what happened with the 2.1 Update for the HTC Hero (more than a half year between announcement and shipment, at least in europe).
Better to make promises they can hold. So the Christmas announcement makes completly sense to me.
Ascenca
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Yes thats probably the reason. But it might make people not buying the Desire also and go for another brand like Samsung Galaxy S or even the Iphone 4 =P
Oh well, Im glad we have the Devs who get froyo roms out =)

Roms that dont work
Not trying to offend anyone.. I m pretty new to the HTC Desire (3 days) but VERY happy I forgot I ever had a 3GS.
But as far as roms are concerned, I see it is not worth using them since simple stuff such as video recording do not work.

Man, hope this better be true.
Sorry to sound so retardly geeky but it's been such a deep sadness for not being able to use the sdcard for applications. I'm sure you dudes feel the same!
Sent from my HTC Desire

jastonas said:
Roms that dont work
Not trying to offend anyone.. I m pretty new to the HTC Desire (3 days) but VERY happy I forgot I ever had a 3GS.
But as far as roms are concerned, I see it is not worth using them since simple stuff such as video recording do not work.
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About video recording not working: http://androidheadlines.com/2010/07/android-2-2-is-now-on-the-htc-desire-it-too-can-now-do-720p.html
Looks pretty functional to me

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Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?
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The only thing they have said is that they will be done BEFORE Christmas, that could be any time not precisely Christmas, it just gives them a window to allow for things to go wrong.

Another hint the update is not far of (statement from Eric Lin, global PR and online community Manager of HTC):
"I don't think you're going to see that really long six month, seven month lag, like you saw in the updates from 1.5 to 2.1, simply because it's a less severe change. Switching from 2.1 to 2.2, they made a lot of tweaks, but they didn't make any gigantic changes, so it should be a much swifter process".
Source: the::unwierd
Ascenca

anyone know if we getting 2.3?

does anyone know if we getting 2.3 update for g2??

Yeah, it'll come for sure. But it'll be available in custom ROMs way before HTC get around to releasing it.

but it'll work same as the official 2.3 right?

Haha, stevieweeeeevie dude, your posting frequency is unreal every post I see a reply from you. Your like an xda cyborg... Lol
JD
Sent from my HTC Desire Z Beast

Ya, it'll be the same as official 2.3.
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Alright so we'll see it in a few weeks cheeee heeeeeee!
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Well, this phone has virgin android because it will be between the first phones getting gingerbread, so htc I think won't have anything to do here because we are running pure vanilla, not any htc sence crap
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JupiterDroid said:
Haha, stevieweeeeevie dude, your posting frequency is unreal every post I see a reply from you. Your like an xda cyborg... Lol
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What can I say, I've got too much time on my hands

Its a good thing though dude, its nice to know there are people dedicated to the cause
2.3 will come firstly as a port from the nexus, and then within 1-2 months we will see an updated G2 and sense rom, then at the end of 2020 we will see it drop on the SGS, lol lol ;P
And as soon as the gingerbread source code is released, Cy will get to work on CM7
JD
Sent from my HTC Desire Z Beast

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Alright so we'll see it in a few weeks cheeee heeeeeee!
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Are you posing for a picture and are a bit nervous?

nooo im effing excited dude! lol

This is just a rumor, but Phandroid has a rumor that says 2.3 could be unvieled as early as today (12/6). I don't think it'll happen, but I have my fingers crossed.
I know Moto Droids running vanilla Android and the Nexus 1 always get updates first because they're running vanilla Android. We're running Vanilla Android, so maybe we'll get to be apart of the "hahahaha, we got it before you did, sucker Sense/Motoblur/Touchwiz users!" group?

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That statement is absurd. The N1 has only had ONE UPDATE!!! At least only one MAJOR update... it shipped with 2.1, it is currently 2.2 (2.2.1 is minor, hardly counts.)

dhkr123 said:
That statement is absurd. The N1 has only had ONE UPDATE!!! At least only one MAJOR update... it shipped with 2.1, it is currently 2.2 (2.2.1 is minor, hardly counts.)
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That's only half of the statement, friend. The point I was trying to make was that the phones with vanilla android get the updates sooner than all the other UIs. Since we run vanilla android like the nexus 1 and the moto droids do, we should be getting 2.3 the same time they do which, historically, has been far sooner than everyone else.

dhkr123 said:
That statement is absurd. The N1 has only had ONE UPDATE!!! At least only one MAJOR update... it shipped with 2.1, it is currently 2.2 (2.2.1 is minor, hardly counts.)
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There have only been those 2 updates....
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G2 is not pure Google/Stock/Vanilla/Virgin whatever you want to call it.
While yes, the G2 is the closest thing to Vanilla FroYo available (aside from the Nexus Series of course, which is 100% stock), it isn't entirely pure. There is another thread pertaining to this, anyways the guesstimate is that we will get it a month or two after the Nexus S is released, which is December 16th in the United States.
BTW, I love my G2, I think it's the sickest phone available right now, but at the same time, it isn't fully stock. Read Cyanogen's blog about it.
It's going to take some time to get it just right for the G2. In any event, I can't wait!
I'm guessing Feb. 2011, although after having played with the SDK's Emulator a bit, there aren't any DRASTIC changes in Gingerbread, which means less dev. work, so who knows, maybe even sooner! Definitely after X-mas.

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While yes, the G2 is the closest thing to Vanilla FroYo available (aside from the Nexus Series of course, which is 100% stock), it isn't entirely pure. There is another thread pertaining to this, anyways the guesstimate is that we will get it a month or two after the Nexus S is released, which is December 16th in the United States.
BTW, I love my G2, I think it's the sickest phone available right now, but at the same time, it isn't fully stock. Read Cyanogen's blog about it.
It's going to take some time to get it just right for the G2. In any event, I can't wait!
I'm guessing Feb. 2011, although after having played with the SDK's Emulator a bit, there aren't any DRASTIC changes in Gingerbread, which means less dev. work, so who knows, maybe even sooner! Definitely after X-mas.
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Oh I know we're not running 100% Vanilla, but we are running it without a 3rd party UI put over top so I'm sure we'll get it much sooner than Sense, Motoblur and Touchwiz phones do.
I think it'll be sooner than February (my money is on a January release, as the Nexus S is being released with 2.3, so 2.3's release will be the day the S comes out). It shouldn't take that long to toss together 2.3-compatible versions of the apps that makes ours different from a 100% pure device. Of course, it's all up to Tmo in the end.
I'm waiting until 2.3 update before I root. I was waiting for CM 6 stable but with 2.3 just around the corner, it's worth waiting for. I'd like to see what it's like before I go rooting around in my phone. Pun squarely intended.

dhkr123 said:
That statement is absurd. The N1 has only had ONE UPDATE!!! At least only one MAJOR update... it shipped with 2.1, it is currently 2.2 (2.2.1 is minor, hardly counts.)
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What is the difference between 2.2 and 2.2.1? And why doesn't the G2 have 2.2.1?

I can't wait for 2.3 via CM7! The CM 6.1 stable is bad ass. I'm just ready for voip/sip that's built in. I changed my service plan when I heard that lol
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AbsolutZeroGI said:
Oh I know we're not running 100% Vanilla, but we are running it without a 3rd party UI put over top so I'm sure we'll get it much sooner than Sense, Motoblur and Touchwiz phones do.
I think it'll be sooner than February (my money is on a January release, as the Nexus S is being released with 2.3, so 2.3's release will be the day the S comes out). It shouldn't take that long to toss together 2.3-compatible versions of the apps that makes ours different from a 100% pure device. Of course, it's all up to Tmo in the end.
I'm waiting until 2.3 update before I root. I was waiting for CM 6 stable but with 2.3 just around the corner, it's worth waiting for. I'd like to see what it's like before I go rooting around in my phone. Pun squarely intended.
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I hear you man. Agreed.