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BATTERY DRAIN ON WM6 vs. WM5

Hi - experiencing battery drain on wm6. Anyone experiencing similar problems?

Change radio version
I must change radio version, i tried 1.38 same problem, now i'm using 1.40.30.00, problem solved.

AvinashDhaniraj said:
Hi - experiencing battery drain on wm6. Anyone experiencing similar problems?
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First it depends on the Rom you are using and on the software running in the background.
And of course it depends on the radio. I'm running Black3 with Radio 1.41.00.10 and think the battery is lasting longer then before.
Short example:
Thursday morning at about eight I turned my Tytn on after charging the whole night. Then I used it during the day for a lot of phonecalls, downloading some emails and playing solitair. At about 09.00pm I switched to flight mode until friday 08.00am. Again I used it during the day for some phone calls, friday evening the battery was at 20% and I had to charge it. I think this is a respectable battery life.

i am getting very similar battery life. at the present time (8pm sunday) i am on 30% i have not charged it since saturday morning.
i was on the phone for about an hour today and about an hour and a half on the saturday, as well as lots of messages, bluetooth/gps occassionally and never switched it to flight mode.
i am using radio 1.41.00.10 and LVSW 3.30.00.9 05/07

Battery Tips
My battery life is pretty similar. Its more down to what you use on your phone and how your radio rom acts than differences between WM5 and WM6.
Things you can do to improve it are:
1) Turn off receive all incoming beams under settings>connections>beam.
2) Set your band to GSM by pressing the 3g/H/U/Whatever icon at the top of the screen then choosing settings>band and change select your network type from auto to GSM. If you receive an error saying the data call already exists, you may need to turn on flight mode first. I find gprs fine for mail and web browsing and mms stuff, I only really need 3G for video calls. Search for Daniel Herrero's Bandswitch if you have difficulties.
3) Turn down your screen brightness, if you need a light that badly, buy a torch.
4) For those that use an underground mass transit system, switch to flight mode when you are underground, otherwise your phone will continue polling for a signal.
I can usually get 3-4 days battery life with my phone with direct push on between 7am and 7pm moderate phone use and a bit of browsing.

Radio Upgrade
Thanks 4 da replies guys. I'm currently using radio 1.38 - Where can I download the radio that would give me better general performance & battery - which would be better 1.40 or 1.41 - where can I download it from?

Radio Download
Oops.....& my ROM is Pro Black 3.0.1 (on HTC TyTN)- which radio would be great?

I'm satisfied with 1.41, but its the best if you try both for some days to see which one is working in your area best.
Here you can find the radios:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms

Help on Installation
Thank u so much. As I am a new user please can u help me. do I just run the exe file on my laptop - will it affect rom? will anything on my rom change? can I reflash to a previous version? I heard a member say in a thread that flashing the radio could be dangerous and one could break the phone - please advise me on this. Many thanks

hi, just my two pennorth. Having tried 1.41 with Black v3, I found my battery draining very quick, went back to 1.38 which I have found gives better life. Although I do use it mainly for calls, not data. This is on UK Orange.

DATA Switcher on today screen
Hi guys, Daniel Herrero has done an amazing job! Thank you Daniel! You can now have an icon on your today screen that switches between GSM, GPRS, 3G in 1/2 simple clicks!
go to http://commmgrpro.com/_wsn/page3.html

Hmmm, Daniel Herrero's Bandswitch, now where have I heard that name before......?

Chrisjasper
THANKS CHRISJASPER for telling me about Daniel's Bandswitch. Works like a bomb!

De Nada, its nice to see some enthusiasm.

I have to say that I read some advice on another thread regarding battery drain and someone suggested unchecking the box for incoming beams in the connections for the IR. I think it cut the drain by 25% for me.

hy all. ive tried the following:
black 3.01, radio 1.38 ==> fast battery drain << 1 day
lastest lvsw, radio 1.38 ==> fast battery drain << 1 day
htc latest wm5 wwe rom, radio 1.38 ==> long battery life >> 1 day
black 3.01, radio 1.40 ==> fast battery drain << 1 day
lastest lvsw, radio 1.40 ==> fast battery drain << 1 day
htc latest wm5 wwe rom, radio 1.40 ==> long battery life >> 1 day
black 3.01, radio 1.41 ==> fast battery drain << 1 day
lastest lvsw, radio 1.41 ==> fast battery drain << 1 day
htc latest wm5 wwe rom, radio 1.41 ==> long battery life >> 1 day
so you can see, its not the radio (at all)!!! and there is a real big difference between wm5 and wm6. after a few hours you can see, that wm6 drains the battery very fast.
mfg chief

Battery life ok, but dropped calls
When I switched to 1.41.00.10, I had good battery life, but I couldn't answer calls before they would dump.
I rolled back to 1.40.30.00, and that seemed to solve the call dropping issue. Battery life is still good also.
YMMV, depending on what signal strength you have, +1 for turning off incoming beams.

Chiefcooker said:
so you can see, its not the radio (at all)!!! and there is a real big difference between wm5 and wm6. after a few hours you can see, that wm6 drains the battery very fast.
mfg chief
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Thanks for this information. That's pretty conclusive and reflects my own experience (that WM6 drains the battery much more quickly than WM5).
But it shouldn't put people off upgrading. WM6 is so much nicer (and faster) than WM5 that it's worth the shorter battery life. And most people will easily get one days use out of WM6 (unless you're online all of the time).
I recommend two things to improve battery life - switch off the phone and remove and replace the battery before doing a full overnight recharge (do this once to recalibrate the battery). And download the bandswitch utility to force GPRS for routine data connections (although WM6's seamless transfer from HSDPA to 3G to GPRS is wonderful and you will lose this).
I switched on my phone at 9am this morning (I switch it off every night - good for the device, good for the battery, good for my health and who the [email protected] wants a phone call at 3am?) and I've made a couple of calls and a few texts this morning - and it's still at 100%.

I am not sure whether part of the battery drain problem might be with the latest WM6.0 kernel that the ROM cookers are using? I was using an older LSVW version (I think his second version) for several weeks and was noticing far superior battery life than I had on the stock Cingular WM5.0 ROM that was on the device when I bought it. When I upgraded to the latest version, I noticed that battery life was quite a bit worse (same apps). I tried both the 1.38 and 1.41 radio ROMs and it doesn't seem to make any difference.

I've been experiencing poorer than usual battery perforamance since upgrading to Custel's WM6 ROM. I verified the settings that Chrisjasper suggested but Custel's ROM comes pretty much configured that way from teh start, I made a minor adjustment to my screen brightness but that was all that I could do.
I would typically be able to get several days out of heavy phone usage and moderate data usage on WM5 with plenty of apps loaded. With Custel's ROM I've not loaded any additional apps as of yet and still have crummy battery performance. I've been hitting the 10% warning marker almost daily for the last week.
I'm looking into other fixes for it on the forum as well, I'm not going to jump ship back to WM5 I love WM6.

battery drain / downgrade but keep hardspl

hello,
i used original WM6.0 ROM until 2 weeks ago. my battery kept 3 days back then (only 2G, no WLAN, no 3G).
now i upgraded to the actual 6.5.x ROMs (23xxx and 28xxx quePPC and TAI).
the battery drains extremely.
i recharged 100% - left the phone unused for 7h - and have only 80% left. That's way to much - for a unused phone.
My question is:
- what ROM can you recommend, that saves battery life almost as good as the original 6.0 ?
- i still have the original 6.0 ROM Upgrade-Setup-Exe.
Wow can i downgrade to original ROM - only the WM, i want to keep
the installed HardSPL - and want to keep the installed RadioRom.
My technical data:
- herm100
- radio 1.47.00.00 ( i never used another one!)
- all "DisablePowerManagement"-Registry Settings are = 0
- Beam is off
- background light is lowest level
- 3G is off

Adjust your background lighting. Take it from full brightness to about half and your battery life will increase alot. Also adjust how long before the screen turns itself off. This helps a lot also. All this can be done in settings.

I recomend you... WM6.0 or feed back your questions on the right thread please Three days? WOW i always need to recharge my hermes everyday and i tho it was normal... jijijiji
Yes you can downgrade to WM6.0 again and the Hardspl remains

LOL! I charge my phone nightly also. I never even got 3 days of battery on my wizard. Heck my wife doesn't get 3 days on her sidekick!

@queppc: what exactly do i have to do to flash back to original rom - to keep hardspl (i have the original setup package) .
i need to change Romupdateutility.exe somehow - or take of the bootloader of the setup-package - don't i ?
@addicus/all: yes, 3 days is possible. and about the wizard. my wife has a wizard. she charged it last monday - then yesterday (friday).
that's even 4 days! - but i have to admit, she hardly uses it. only once a day email check (via WLAN), 1-2 SMS - that's it.
(by the way: i already turned my backlight to lowest level)

ok - I use my phone constantly - phone calls, internet browsing, texting, picture viewing. I'm a freaking junkie. I get a day out of mine (with extended battery) and make sure I charge while driving because bluetooth headset and speaking drain the battery a lot!

Not to mention using Tomtom......

hello,
i didn't downgrade to 6.0 yet (since i still don't know what's exactyl to do - to downgrade, but keep hardspl?)
but it looks like my problem is gone:
all i changed is
- i reformated my SDHC card (i assume this is not the reason)
- i changed my band settings to GSM / GSM 900+1800 + UMTS 2100
-> before i only switched of 3g with the wireless manager - i thought it's the same, but maybe not.
both changes does not really sound like the solution to my battery problem - but it is.
now i have good battery life again! ok, my PDA has never 100%, after taking it of the charger it immediately goes to 97%. then in the beginning it drains a litte faster - it does not take long to around 86% or even 81%.
But then the battery indicator decreases very, very slow.
maybe that battery-indicator with single 1% steps is not that accurate (?)
now my hermes battery drain is ok again. it rests for more than 2 days - depends on usage of course.
i assume if i don't use it it rests for 3 days (i never had the chance to not use it for 3 days ;-)
AFTER THIS - i also did another update. i use TAI V4 now (28205 build). battery life is still ok.

I recharge my phone every night and it is enough for using one day, BUT if I am listening audio book via Bluetooth the battery is empty in two - three hours!

Most of wm6.5 roms have the infrared beam automatically turned on. It drains battery! If it doesn't appear on comm. manager you have to do this:
Open "Advanced Config", then click Menu -> More Settings -> Comm Manager. There select Beam. If you want to choose among more than 6 comm you have to choose on the top Button style: Default
Then soft reset
When turned on again, go to connections and check if Beam is turned on or off.

hystrix65 said:
Most of wm6.5 roms have the infrared beam automatically turned on. It drains battery! If it doesn't appear on comm. manager you have to do this:
Open "Advanced Config", then click Menu -> More Settings -> Comm Manager. There select Beam. If you want to choose among more than 6 comm you have to choose on the top Button style: Default
Then soft reset
When turned on again, go to connections and check if Beam is turned on or off.
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Great information right there. Also to the OP - if you want a WM 6.0 rom and keep HardSpl - just flash the rom. That's what you're doing when you flash the base AT&T rom before flashing a custom rom anyways. If I were you I'd go no lower than 6.1 though. In fact, you may want to try one of CRC's roms as they are very stable.

Battery Problem: On Leedroid

Installed Leedroid froyo over stock rom.
Replaced the radio with recommended one.
Installed the kernel.
SET CPU= Smartass
Problem: 8-9 hours standby time. No wifi. Phone on 3g network.
New problem: Phone's screen is not getting off automatically since i updated the kernel.
Please help. It is driving me nuts. If I use gtalk for about 2 hours, battery is drained off in 5 hours.
Its a brand new phone and battery had a days back up on stock rom with conservative usage.

Was your battery at 100% when you flashed the radio? I had to recalibrate my battery after flashing a radio on my standard Desire when the battery was at about 50% as I was only getting about 6 hours standby. See here for recal method: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/calibrate-your-htc-desire-battery/

rory1980 said:
Was your battery at 100% when you flashed the radio? I had to recalibrate my battery after flashing a radio on my standard Desire when the battery was at about 50% as I was only getting about 6 hours standby. See here for recal method: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/calibrate-your-htc-desire-battery/
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Did that. The only problem am facing in this is when I achieve a green light and 100% with the phone switched on, the moment I shutdown/power off the phone to charge further, the CWM recovery console comes up with a backlight and the orange battery indicator never turns green (even after 1-2 hours).
So at orange indication only I wiped battery stats, and thereafter there was no improvement in battery life.

I would advice to wipe all (backup first of course), install the ROM again, monitor the drain with nothing installed (except battery monitor widget).
I usually do a test in flight mode (target=2mA)
then with phone ON (data ON/OFF doesn't change a lot for me) (target 3-4mA)
!!! disable all autosync !!!
If you have the same values I will say that it's ok.
Then add one by one your kernel, account sync, appli an monitor the drain (at each step).
You will find what is draining your phone.
Do not forget that the drain is subjectif. In GPS I have often more than 300mA drain!

Where do I download the battery monitor widget?

you can download it at HTC widgets for battery monitoring.

Current drain is at 250-300. That too in standby. Gps off. Wifi off. Don't know what is happening

Airplane mode it is 134

[Q] [ROM] Revolution HD: Dialer drains battery, same fix as in CM7 possible?

Hi,
i have changed from stock to Revolution HD today, because the dialer of the stock rom (since the GB update) drains my battery up to 50%.
But the problem is not fixed with Rev HD. My Dialer is still the top 1.
Is it possible to fix this bug in the same way as the cyanogen rom has fixed it?
Here is the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929054
And here the changeset:
http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,3904
Or is this option available in Rev HD?
Home Screen > Menu > Settings > Call Settings> Turn over silence
I could not find it in the specified settings.
I have no apps installed. It is a fresh image of Rev HD.
I have read the linked battery threads too, but i think it looks like the same problem as in the CM7 rom.
Many thanks.
Kase
edit: I am using it on the Desire HD

There's been some discussion around this and in my opinion (which means it could well be wrong) it's not an actual issue.
I don't experience any more battery drain when Dialler is listed than when it isn't, and the details for Dialler in the list typically show it as only being awake for a couple of seconds over a full day.
Personally I think either HTC (or google or whoever) have combined several system processes and listed them together as "Dialler" making it show higher up the list, or it's a bug in how they calculate battery use in Gingerbread.
It might well be that it's continually using the sensor as was presumed in cm7 but I would expect to see more evidence of reduced battery life that were the case.
As I say, I might be wrong
//sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk; all errors entirely intentional.

Hi hopscotchjunkie,
thx 4 your reply.
I am very sure that it really drains the battery. I have tested it a few times with the stock GB rom.
If i reboot my phone and never do a phone call, the dialer is not in the list. My battery time increases from 2 days to at least 3 days on low usage (only 3g on, but auto sync off). With Froyo, i always had up to 2.5 days (and no dialer problem).
Maybe you can test it too (i know it is hard to reach 2 or more days without phone call )?
I will install CM7 the next weeks (if i have some free time), and test the battery usage with this rom. But comparing 2 completely different roms is very inaccurate i think. But i will give it a try anyway.

I know whilst the problem may sound related but just to be on the safe side of things, ensure that you have the recommended Radio and the compatible RIL installed on the phone. The Radio and the RIL will vary depending on the ROM that you use, and as far as I know both AR and CM7 all have listed their recommended Radio. The RIL you will have to match depending on the version of the Radio. Both Radio and RIL library is avaliable in this forum.
As others have mentioned possible bug, once the phone has been fully charged, go into CWM and clear the Battery Statistics. This will allow a sort of "restart" for the battery life articulation.
I am using CM7 (with custom kernel) and generally speaking, from what you have described, I havent had such issues before with either ROMs, although the last AR I used was prior to the 2.3 releases but have since been with CM7, noticably higher benchmarks, possibly better battery life, but definitely free up more RAM, which I suppose = better battery life?

Try This!
KaseDesire said:
Or is this option available in Rev HD?
Home Screen > Menu > Settings > Call Settings> Turn over silence
I could not find it in the specified settings.
Kase
edit: I am using it on the Desire HD
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Its listed under Settings > Sound > Incoming Calls. (Gingerbread)
Disable all the three, worked for me! - Im getting about 3 mA in standby = 2 % Usage over night.
BTW: I`m running a DHD with Revolution HD 5.1.9 (No-sense++) with the ADW Launcher EX - Recommended!

I'm running ARHD 5.1.9 with nosense++ and launcher pro Plus and i don't experience the problem.
Edit: I don't have the three options disabled.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App

KaseDesire said:
Hi hopscotchjunkie,
thx 4 your reply.
I am very sure that it really drains the battery. I have tested it a few times with the stock GB rom.
If i reboot my phone and never do a phone call, the dialer is not in the list. My battery time increases from 2 days to at least 3 days on low usage (only 3g on, but auto sync off). With Froyo, i always had up to 2.5 days (and no dialer problem).
Maybe you can test it too (i know it is hard to reach 2 or more days without phone call )?
I will install CM7 the next weeks (if i have some free time), and test the battery usage with this rom. But comparing 2 completely different roms is very inaccurate i think. But i will give it a try anyway.
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Wow, you battery is a beast if it can last up to three days, no matter how little you use the device. Back to the topic, it may be worth backing up your settings and try a factory reset, although you probably did in first place when you installed Revo HD. You may want to look at uninstalling Sense dialer and get a replacement and see how it goes. There are a few good ones out there.
I hope it helps.

Hi all, thanks for your replies!!!
I have done some tests now with the AR 5.19 ROM.
If i reboot my device and do not start the dialer, the phone drains my battery 15% in 10 hours. No usage, only 3g on with whatsapp and icq, but no messages written at all. I have tested it many times with different battery charge levels, its always about 15%.
=> Battery usage: 50% phone standby, 50% phone inactive (i dont know the exact english words).
If i reboot my phone, start the dialer, but still no usage, same conditions, the phone drains the battery about 30% in 10 hours. Also tested many times with different battery charge levels.
=> Battery usage: 50% dialer, 25% phone standy, 25% phone inactive.
With the dialer, my battery is <10% after 2 days of low usage. If i reboot the phone and never start it, my battery is ~40% after 2 days, same usage.
I am very sure, the dialer drains the battery with the exact amount displayed in the battery stats. It matches 100% for me.
@0semaj0: I use the recommend RIL and Radio for AR 5.1.9, i have done a full wipe before and cleared my battery stats.
@HeiDuDer: I also tested this, deactivating the 3 options you have described does not change anything, the dialer is still in my battery stats after i used it at least once. Even after reboot.
@fdelosriossanchez: I will give it a try. If i use the nosense script, do i have the stock dialer??? Maybe i will test AR 5.1.9 with nosense.
I will post an update in a few days. Thanks to all!

KaseDesire said:
Hi all, thanks for your replies!!!
I have done some tests now with the AR 5.19 ROM.
If i reboot my device and do not start the dialer, the phone drains my battery 15% in 10 hours. No usage, only 3g on with whatsapp and icq, but no messages written at all. I have tested it many times with different battery charge levels, its always about 15%.
=> Battery usage: 50% phone standby, 50% phone inactive (i dont know the exact english words).
If i reboot my phone, start the dialer, but still no usage, same conditions, the phone drains the battery about 30% in 10 hours. Also tested many times with different battery charge levels.
=> Battery usage: 50% dialer, 25% phone standy, 25% phone inactive.
With the dialer, my battery is <10% after 2 days of low usage. If i reboot the phone and never start it, my battery is ~40% after 2 days, same usage.
I am very sure, the dialer drains the battery with the exact amount displayed in the battery stats. It matches 100% for me.
@0semaj0: I use the recommend RIL and Radio for AR 5.1.9, i have done a full wipe before and cleared my battery stats.
@HeiDuDer: I also tested this, deactivating the 3 options you have described does not change anything, the dialer is still in my battery stats after i used it at least once. Even after reboot.
@fdelosriossanchez: I will give it a try. If i use the nosense script, do i have the stock dialer??? Maybe i will test AR 5.1.9 with nosense.
I will post an update in a few days. Thanks to all!
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Bumping this with my own observations, deactivating the 3 options doesen't have an effect on the battery life, and the battery drains far faster after a reboot if I make a single phonecall to start the proximity sensor polling bug

[Q] HTC DHD 4.2.2R8 drain battery so much

Hi everyone!
I'm using JellyTime 4.2.2R8 on my DHD.
It's working fast but battery drain so much.
Ex: I only view screen, scroll something. Everage 1 minute, battery degree 1-2%
Who can help optimize this problem?, thanks!

banghn said:
Hi everyone!
I'm using JellyTime 4.2.2R8 on my DHD.
It's working fast but battery drain so much.
Ex: I only view screen, scroll something. Everage 1 minute, battery degree 1-2%
Who can help optimize this problem?, thanks!
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Hi,
I installed JellyTime R8 on Monday evening, and I haven't experienced such a battery drain so far, it goes down a bit faster than my stock Gingerbread+Sense ROM. I might have other stats issues (wrong "on battery" duration, charge stuck at 90%...), but no drain so far.
I am not well experienced in flashing ROMs and how to solve problems, but I have seen lots of people advising to flash the battery stats and recalibrate. But you need a few complete charge/discharge cycles to make it work properly. (But according to a few other people, it's a kind of religious belief too...)
You can also install a more precise battery stats app. I saw a more detailed message in Jellytime Dev thread (in one of the last pages). If I find it again, I let you know.

BetterBatteryStats
banghn said:
Hi everyone!
I'm using JellyTime 4.2.2R8 on my DHD.
It's working fast but battery drain so much.
Ex: I only view screen, scroll something. Everage 1 minute, battery degree 1-2%
Who can help optimize this problem?, thanks!
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I cannot find again the thread/post where I saw this information, but the application some people advise to use is BetterBatteryStats.
To give you a counter example: since I flashed JellyTime R8 (Monday 20th Mai, 23h GMT+1), I fully charged my phone only twice.
The first discharge took almost a day (but I used it a lot, configuring and playing with the new features).
The second discharge started 33 hours ago and I still have 50% as we speak. Maybe the stats are wrong, but the phone is still ON after 33hours. I'll let you know how long it lasts.
I am on GSM roaming all day long, but my phone stays most of the time in standby mode.
A few things that I've done to optimize the battery life:
- remove the constant location-tracking, both GPS and 3G (especially as GPS is not working since I flashed JT R8);
- remove permanent/auto 3G connection, as I am spending all the day abroad, it is useless to keep 3G activated, without data roaming on.
Go in Settings/location and switch the toggle off.
Go in Settings, expand Wireless and Networks (Plus), then Mobile Networks and untick the first box (my ROM is in french so I am not 100% sure of the translation, it might be something like Activate Data)

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Thanks Matth59 !
I toggled off some setting in phone (GPS, MobileData, effect screen, animation, turn off notification some app...)
But but it does not improve the problem of battery.
I charged full battery, after 24minutes
Saw status of battery on 24m19s, (95%)
Screen 70% (I set bright of screen about 20-30%)
Cell standby 6%
Android system 5%
Phone idle 5%
Wifi 3%
Facebook 3%
Android OS 2%
Media server 2%

banghn said:
Thanks Matth59 !
I toggled off some setting in phone (GPS, MobileData, effect screen, animation, turn off notification some app...)
But but it does not improve the problem of battery.
I charged full battery, after 24minutes
Saw status of battery on 24m19s, (95%)
Screen 70% (I set bright of screen about 20-30%)
Cell standby 6%
Android system 5%
Phone idle 5%
Wifi 3%
Facebook 3%
Android OS 2%
Media server 2%
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And how long does it usually take for it to be discharged?
The second time I charged it, it said that charge was complete and stopped charging at 90%, and I got the impression that it reached that level quite fast. But the device is still on, after 38 hours.
I hope somebody with more experience in that field can give you a better advice or more information, than just flashing the battery stats and recalibrate it.

After one week of using R8, this is how battery is going for me.
On standby, it can last as long as it used to with the stock Sense + Gingerbread ROM (or even a bit more, but maybe because I haven't reinstalled all my apps).
When using the phone, battery life is going down quite fast, and I am not sure if it can last more than 1 day of normal use (3g, mails, messages, calls...).
The most battery consuming task is the screen. It makes me wonder if it could be related to the feature that was introduced by Google since JellyBean 4.1: Project Butter, which makes everything smooth in Android.