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I've never rooted anything but now that I've ditched the EPIC the first question becomes....is there a way to get full root with a new device that has stock FROYO loaded?
I have not yet installed this morning update and figured I'd wait to see about rooting.
What I would like to accomplish is to get rid of all the pre-loaded crap, realize some better battery life and then get the FPS update.
So...assuming I can root, do I then flash a custom rom or?
Seriously....your assistance would be greatly appreciated as the plethora of how to threads gets rather confusing here
I got my Evo a few days after Froyo was released, so the Sprint rep updated it for me. The simple root method is, well, simple. Just use that and then flash any rom you choose and yes you will be able to rid your phone of all the bulk software. Depending on the rom and how you configure your device, battery life will vary.
One of the biggest decisions you'll have to make is choosing between a sense rom or the stock android look. Some roms combine both. Cyanogen my recommendation If you want to try the stock look, it's also the fastest I've used. As for sense roms, I'de suggest you try em' all.
So what made you switch from the Epic? I was thinking about trying it out...
jfenton57 said:
I've never rooted anything but now that I've ditched the EPIC the first question becomes....is there a way to get full root with a new device that has stock FROYO loaded?
I have not yet installed this morning update and figured I'd wait to see about rooting.
What I would like to accomplish is to get rid of all the pre-loaded crap, realize some better battery life and then get the FPS update.
So...assuming I can root, do I then flash a custom rom or?
Seriously....your assistance would be greatly appreciated as the plethora of how to threads gets rather confusing here
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unrevoked seems to do the job... even after applying the ota update u stay with s-off which lets u flash custom recovery and roms.
one thing that does suck with being rooted this way is that the engineering boot gives u much more than what the new one does... but thats for more advanced users.
yea rooted mine today using unrevoked but was on mac so was a little easier to do but is still a simple process from what it was before look around on youtube and on these forums youll find what your looking for just a simple search and your golden
Sooks said:
I got my Evo a few days after Froyo was released, so the Sprint rep updated it for me. The simple root method is, well, simple. Just use that and then flash any rom you choose and yes you will be able to rid your phone of all the bulk software. Depending on the rom and how you configure your device, battery life will vary.
One of the biggest decisions you'll have to make is choosing between a sense rom or the stock android look. Some roms combine both. Cyanogen my recommendation If you want to try the stock look, it's also the fastest I've used. As for sense roms, I'de suggest you try em' all.
So what made you switch from the Epic? I was thinking about trying it out...
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Here you go. Its not the easiest way but youll learn more doing it this way... at the very least read through it before you go the one click route.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
Roms? Just start clicking and reading. Pretty much every rom has a description and instructions on how to flash.
I truly appreciate the replies
One question I have is this....
Is one root method better than others?
Also, can one un root if need be more easily with one root method vs another?
Lastly....do all root methods still allow the camera to work or?
jfenton57 said:
I truly appreciate the replies
One question I have is this....
Is one root method better than others?
Also, can one un root if need be more easily with one root method vs another?
Lastly....do all root methods still allow the camera to work or?
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Camera issues seem all fixed on the all the roms, but that's more of a rom issue not a root issue.
You can un-root, re-root, run a RUU, run a rooted stock rom, etc. there's so many choices I suggest you go to the guides in one of the first posts and start reading.
jfenton57 said:
I truly appreciate the replies
One question I have is this....
Is one root method better than others?
Also, can one un root if need be more easily with one root method vs another?
Lastly....do all root methods still allow the camera to work or?
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Better? Thats a matter of opinion. One click will put you on clockwork recovery which has had a lot of issues as far as not wiping correctly and that can cause problems flashing rom to rom so if you choose that method I'd switch to Amon_Ras recovery. Just run a search to find it.
Unrooting is the same no matter how you root.
A root method wont break your camera.
Again...
The assistance from you folks is much appreciated
Hi, I have the desire, and well I'm board with it, I want to mess around with different roms like miui, gingerbread extra. But I don't understand, please could someone help me with some of my questions? Thank :
1) What are the chances of breaking it through rooting, and what could happen, and would should you do it it does happen?
2) what does bricked mean, and is there away of unbricking?
1) what do you do if a bad rom breaks?
1.5) what are the chances of things going wrong?
2) Can you have more than one rom installed at a time, and switch between them, a bit like you can with launchers, and uses the same apps and data on those roms?
2.5) Is unrevoked the best way to root?
3) I you can have more than one rom, can you have a gingerbread rom, side loaded with a froyo from?
4) How do you switch between the roms?
5)Does rooting affect battery life?
6) Using unrevoked, is there anyway to unroot?
7) where do you find roms, and does the rom manager in the market allow you to install them without flashing?
8)Is there a good htc sense hd or gingerbread rom that works well?
9) With different roms increase the speed of the device, like the n1 is faster than the desire, yet they have the same hardware?
I know that a lot of questions but i am really nervousness about this and I can't seem to find todate answerers to these questions. If someone could help me with these questions I would be very great full, as I want to get more our of my device. Thanks ( I know there are a lot of rooting threads, but I really need to find out as much as i can before I undergo this, I love my desire too much to allow it to break when there was something that i could have done)
There is a remote chance (0.00000001%) of anything going wrong as long as you follow the steps to the rooting process and S-Off. If you become bricked then there is a topic on how to unbrick.
Easiest and best way to root is to using unrevoked 3.32. Make sure you download the HBoot drivers from their website. After rooting, it is also good to make your device S-Off'd. Your able to flash HBoot templates to change partition sizes and also change the splash and remove system apps and so on.
You can only have 1 rom installed at a time. You have to flash roms as well, that's how you install them and other zip files through the recovery. If a rom breaks, you can just flash it again. Installing a rom takes 5 mins, if that really.
You find roms in the Android Dev section. You can use Rom Manager but you have to pay or something.
You can have a fast rom or a "slower" rom. It depends on how it's been built and stuff but also the kernel can help to speed things up. (Speed isn't always the answer). There is no best or crappiest rom either. It's best to test many out for yourself.
Battery life again depends on the rom and the kernel.
Things To Download
To root a device
To S-Off your device
Roms and alsort of other nice things
Hope this helps you out.
Thanks very much , but do you need to install "S-Off" as I don't quite understand what it does, and which one to download and how to install it. Thanks
You don't need to install S-Off after a root. S-Off just allows you to do more things like uninstall system apps, change the splash screen, change the HBoot (not quite sure what else). If your not going to be doing them sort of things then stay away from it.
When you root, the unrevoked utility roots it and changes the recovery to ClockworkMod 2.5.1.8. That recovery allows you to boot into it and install roms through it. It has a menu and you use your optical tracker to navigate through them. That is how you install different roms.
With the roms, you need to see which one you like. I've been through almost all of them and I have one I stick to now. I can't say which is the best, that's for you to decide. The Gingerbread roms are Android 2.3 and I THINK, emphasis on the THINK, that the rest of the roms are Android 2.2.
I think at first your like, oh what if I mess things up and stuff but you won't if you follow instructions. When I first did it, I completely messed up and couldn't even boot into a rom at all and was wondering how to sort it out. I got there in the end but still. I also forgot to mention, if you want the stock rom back, you can install one of the RUU's. It will wipe everything and you will have to root again, but you will have stock.
Thanks very much , when change roms will you lose all of your apps, and data?
Yes. When your changing roms, you have to erase all data. It is a must and everything will go, apps, user data including texts and contacts, EVERYTHING!!!.
Thanks so much for all your help, i'm going to do it now, and use cyanogen mod 7 or 6.x. Thanks again
No worries. If you get stuck, just message me or something.
Completely IGNORE S-OFF if you're a n00b, it shouldn't be recommended to anyone who:
1. Doesn't know what it is
2. Doesn't actually need it
Concentrate on rooting and running a custom ROM first
Not actually true. When I S-Off'd my Desire, I didn't have a bloody clue, other than it disables all security, what it was. You eventually learn things like I did and read a little more. S-Off is a great tool to have on your phone because it gives you all the more freedom to do what ever you want with your device. I will say for all the "n00bs" out there that if you are S-Off'ing then please read it all carefully, unlike me because I could have messed it all up.
You were lucky - better to learn first, do second
I saw recently a wiped imei which made me cautious
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Thanks for all you help, I have rooted and now have a custom rom (cm 6.1). Thanks
EddyOS said:
Completely IGNORE S-OFF if you're a n00b
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I would add that if you're a n00b, don't even try to get your device rooted!
Lothaen said:
I saw recently a wiped imei which made me cautious
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I would ask if that's even possbile. Apparently it is.
Delete the efs storage without a backup... doh
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I had a stock Desire and wouldn't move from it. Then the niggles in the current build just annoyed me enough to actually go down the root route (see what I did there? )
So I rooted and after a few mishaps along the way (make backups of everything, phone and SD card, especially if you partition it!) I am very happy with my Ginger Villain ROM. A few things still niggle (Me avatar in texts blank, phone reboots randomly to name a few), but its not as bad as it used to be. I can live without Sense as well surprisingly enough.
I also did the same for a friend, and stuck them on LeeDroid 2.3d and as they are technically challenged, it works for them sweet as.
stringent said:
I had a stock Desire and wouldn't move from it. Then the niggles in the current build just annoyed me enough to actually go down the root route (see what I did there? )
So I rooted and after a few mishaps along the way (make backups of everything, phone and SD card, especially if you partition it!) I am very happy with my Ginger Villain ROM. A few things still niggle (Me avatar in texts blank, phone reboots randomly to name a few), but its not as bad as it used to be. I can live without Sense as well surprisingly enough.
I also did the same for a friend, and stuck them on LeeDroid 2.3d and as they are technically challenged, it works for them sweet as.
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Haha that made me laugh. As for your contact icon of yourself, you need to add yourself. Your own number and name and then you can add a picture. Yes it is annoying a little because Android natively doesn't have like a "contact card" for yourself.
Rooting and S-Off is the best thing I did by far
GoogleJelly said:
Haha that made me laugh. As for your contact icon of yourself, you need to add yourself. Your own number and name and then you can add a picture. Yes it is annoying a little because Android natively doesn't have like a "contact card" for yourself.
Rooting and S-Off is the best thing I did by far
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bump creates a contact card for yourself...
right at the top of the phonebook called 'My Contact Card'
Lothaen said:
bump creates a contact card for yourself...
right at the top of the phonebook called 'My Contact Card'
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Odd, I don't have that, I had it in the Sense UI, not on the stock Ginger Villain ROM, unless I am missing something ...
Please excuse anything I say that may seem laughable, ridiculous, or wrong, as I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to these things.
I just recently found out that the Droid Incredible 2 is receiving an official Ice Cream Sandwhich update soon, but I'm rooted (used downgrade and revolutionary method), and have clockwork mod recovery flashed. I'm on Android 2.3.3. I want to return my phone to spotless, brick free stock in order to prepare for the ICS update.
Reading up on this, the closest I've come is finding a guide which involves flashing a stock hboot and downgrading to froyo and updating to gingerbread from there (can't post a link as a new user). I just want to know, will doing this remove everything, including CWM Recovery, and return it to stock? I fear that if even if I were to succeed at changing the hboot, I'd be stuck with CWM Recovery or super user or something.
If not, can I get instructions on how to return my phone to stock in preparation for ICS? I don't want to do this, try and update, and brick my phone because remnants of CWM or Revolutionary or Superuser remain on my phone.
Thanks to any reply in advance!
Honoguma said:
Please excuse anything I say that may seem laughable, ridiculous, or wrong, as I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to these things.
I just recently found out that the Droid Incredible 2 is receiving an official Ice Cream Sandwhich update soon, but I'm rooted (used downgrade and revolutionary method), and have clockwork mod recovery flashed. I'm on Android 2.3.3. I want to return my phone to spotless, brick free stock in order to prepare for the ICS update.
Reading up on this, the closest I've come is finding a guide which involves flashing a stock hboot and downgrading to froyo and updating to gingerbread from there (can't post a link as a new user). I just want to know, will doing this remove everything, including CWM Recovery, and return it to stock? I fear that if even if I were to succeed at changing the hboot, I'd be stuck with CWM Recovery or super user or something.
If not, can I get instructions on how to return my phone to stock in preparation for ICS? I don't want to do this, try and update, and brick my phone because remnants of CWM or Revolutionary or Superuser remain on my phone.
Thanks to any reply in advance!
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why not wait till we get the ota and someone makes a rom put of it for us (like the same day) root is always better than stock.
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I was considering that possibility also. An official rom could be flashed with cwm and would work just as well as an official ota update, yes?
Sorry, I'm very clueless when it comes to stuff like this.
Honoguma said:
I was considering that possibility also. An official rom could be flashed with cwm and would work just as well as an official ota update, yes?
Sorry, I'm very clueless when it comes to stuff like this.
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Example: someone wants stock 2.3.3....flash anybonesstock
When you want official ics...flash whatever someone prepared...probably condemned soul or nit
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knipp21 said:
Example: someone wants stock 2.3.3....flash anybonesstock
When you want official ics...flash whatever someone prepared...probably condemned soul or nit
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What exactly is condemned soul and nit?
I'm going to be honest though, the only reason I rooted in the first place was to freeze bloatware (not flash anything), I actually like HTC Sense and would feel much more at ease if I could just get rid of root and go back to the way my phone was right out the box.
Honoguma said:
What exactly is condemned soul and nit?
I'm going to be honest though, the only reason I rooted in the first place was to freeze bloatware (not flash anything), I actually like HTC Sense and would feel much more at ease if I could just get rid of root and go back to the way my phone was right out the box.
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They are two devs that do mostly sense stuff...such as the sense 4 port being done.
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knipp21 said:
They are two devs that do mostly sense stuff...such as the sense 4 port being done.
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Ah, thanks for the info. If I'm unable to find a way to get back to stock to do an ota (I prefer official, I have OCD over these things), I'll definitely check it out. Thanks!
Couple things, first, while the Inc2 will get ICS, it's anyone's guess when that'll happen, and I seriously doubt it'll be in anyone's idea of "soon". As it needs to clear Verizon, and there haven't been any leaks yet, I would be shocked if we got an OTA before fall. Second, an OTA will likely include a new hboot which would almost certainly address the exploit Revolutionary used to gain s-off. That could leave you with HTC's unlock as your only way to get root back, and HTC's unlock means you're forfeiting your warranty. Maybe you're ok with that, maybe not.
Honestly, if it were me, I'd download all the files and instructions from the RootzWiki restore to stock thread and put them somewhere for safe keeping. When the OTA comes out, you could restore then and receive it, or certainly by that time there will be roms available based on leaks of the OTA.
If you don't mind all the bloat, don't need root and are willing to potentially loose root permanently, then go ahead and restore to stock now, but I guarantee you'd be months premature if the sole purpose is the ICS OTA.
As for your concern about the restore leaving a trace of root or Clockwork... It won't. Your phone will be 100% stock - hboot, recovery, kernel and rom.
ChrisDDD said:
Couple things, first, while the Inc2 will get ICS, it's anyone's guess when that'll happen, and I seriously doubt it'll be in anyone's idea of "soon". As it needs to clear Verizon, and there haven't been any leaks yet, I would be shocked if we got an OTA before fall. Second, an OTA will likely include a new hboot which would almost certainly address the exploit Revolutionary used to gain s-off. That could leave you with HTC's unlock as your only way to get root back, and HTC's unlock means you're forfeiting your warranty. Maybe you're ok with that, maybe not.
Honestly, if it were me, I'd download all the files and instructions from the RootzWiki restore to stock thread and put them somewhere for safe keeping. When the OTA comes out, you could restore then and receive it, or certainly by that time there will be roms available based on leaks of the OTA.
If you don't mind all the bloat, don't need root and are willing to potentially loose root permanently, then go ahead and restore to stock now, but I guarantee you'd be months premature if the sole purpose is the ICS OTA.
As for your concern about the restore leaving a trace of root or Clockwork... It won't. Your phone will be 100% stock - hboot, recovery, kernel and rom.
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Thanks. I didn't have the energy to type that all out
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One more thing. From what I've read/heard the Official Dinc II ICS will be Sense 3.6, where as the One V port that is being worked on is Sense 4.0.
I don't know what the differences are, but obviously 4.0 is 0.4 better than 3.6.
ChrisDDD said:
Couple things, first, while the Inc2 will get ICS, it's anyone's guess when that'll happen, and I seriously doubt it'll be in anyone's idea of "soon". As it needs to clear Verizon, and there haven't been any leaks yet, I would be shocked if we got an OTA before fall. Second, an OTA will likely include a new hboot which would almost certainly address the exploit Revolutionary used to gain s-off. That could leave you with HTC's unlock as your only way to get root back, and HTC's unlock means you're forfeiting your warranty. Maybe you're ok with that, maybe not.
Honestly, if it were me, I'd download all the files and instructions from the RootzWiki restore to stock thread and put them somewhere for safe keeping. When the OTA comes out, you could restore then and receive it, or certainly by that time there will be roms available based on leaks of the OTA.
If you don't mind all the bloat, don't need root and are willing to potentially loose root permanently, then go ahead and restore to stock now, but I guarantee you'd be months premature if the sole purpose is the ICS OTA.
As for your concern about the restore leaving a trace of root or Clockwork... It won't. Your phone will be 100% stock - hboot, recovery, kernel and rom.
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Yeah, I don't want to go back to stock now, but rather wait until the update is close to release and restore to stock then. I'd rather not flash a custom from, as I'm kinda OCD about "official" and stuff. I don't mind losing rooting capabilities after the ics update.
As for the rootzwiki restore to stock thread, does it include directions specificially for the Inc 2, or is returning to stock a universal method for all devices? Don't I need specific files, tools, and direction for my phone and its firmware? Can you point me in the direction on where I can find these directions and files? I'm such a noob at this, and I apologize for not knowing anything. I just don't want to stumble across a thread where I download a wrong file and flash something bad and I'm screwed over for good.
Thanks SO much for all the help everyone!
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1579-how-to-restore-to-stock-from-alpharevx-incredible-2-vivow-only/
Is this the thread you were referring to, Chris? It seems sorta risky, but I'm willing to do it if I have a fighting chance. But AlpharevX, I'm assuming they mean Inc2's running 2.3.3 that were most likely rooted using the downgrade method with revolutionary? If so, I'd try it out.
Just a quick question, would there possibly be any roms that are identical to an official OTA update for the Inc2 when it comes out?
Apart from my obsessive desire to have an official firmware, I'm concerned about the camera. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but when I flashed cyanogenmod, the camera didn't seem as good as it was on stock htc sense. Not sure if I was just seeing things or not.
Honoguma said:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1579-how-to-restore-to-stock-from-alpharevx-incredible-2-vivow-only/
Is this the thread you were referring to, Chris? It seems sorta risky, but I'm willing to do it if I have a fighting chance. But AlpharevX, I'm assuming they mean Inc2's running 2.3.3 that were most likely rooted using the downgrade method with revolutionary? If so, I'd try it out.
Just a quick question, would there possibly be any roms that are identical to an official OTA update for the Inc2 when it comes out?
Apart from my obsessive desire to have an official firmware, I'm concerned about the camera. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but when I flashed cyanogenmod, the camera didn't seem as good as it was on stock htc sense. Not sure if I was just seeing things or not.
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Andybonesstock=our current stock rom...100%..someone will do he exact same thing when ics comes out...just trust me..
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Honoguma said:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1579-how-to-restore-to-stock-from-alpharevx-incredible-2-vivow-only/
Is this the thread you were referring to, Chris? It seems sorta risky, but I'm willing to do it if I have a fighting chance. But AlpharevX, I'm assuming they mean Inc2's running 2.3.3 that were most likely rooted using the downgrade method with revolutionary? If so, I'd try it out.
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Yes, that's the thread, and it's specifically for the Inc2. AlpharevX and Revolutionary are the same things, so those instructions will work for both.
And yea, I agree about the camera. I recently flashed AndyBone Stock and the camera is definitely better. A shame because I really like stock CM7. I'm really hoping the CM9 based camera is better.
Thank you all for all the help! I'll try and do it once I sort out another problem of mine...
Restoring to stock can be risky. Who wants to brick there device right before the ics ota? But that's just my opinion. Theres a video showing you how to unroot your device by Nat3mil. Type his name in youtube and go to his channel. The video is one of his first videos so it will be on the bottom. He also has a guide showing you how to root, I used it for my phone. Someone will have an ota rooted ics Rom the first day (FYI)
PS. While your rooted you should at least try different Roms. It can be very enjoyable. I know you will like it.
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Honoguma said:
Please excuse anything I say that may seem laughable, ridiculous, or wrong, as I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to these things.
I just recently found out that the Droid Incredible 2 is receiving an official Ice Cream Sandwhich update soon, but I'm rooted (used downgrade and revolutionary method), and have clockwork mod recovery flashed. I'm on Android 2.3.3. I want to return my phone to spotless, brick free stock in order to prepare for the ICS update.
Reading up on this, the closest I've come is finding a guide which involves flashing a stock hboot and downgrading to froyo and updating to gingerbread from there (can't post a link as a new user). I just want to know, will doing this remove everything, including CWM Recovery, and return it to stock? I fear that if even if I were to succeed at changing the hboot, I'd be stuck with CWM Recovery or super user or something.
If not, can I get instructions on how to return my phone to stock in preparation for ICS? I don't want to do this, try and update, and brick my phone because remnants of CWM or Revolutionary or Superuser remain on my phone.
Thanks to any reply in advance!
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watch?v=tnlnWW8tsvo <<<< this will help
@ChrisDDD: the CM9 camera isn't very good imo. It doesn't seem to focus as well as stock, and when you zoom in on your pictures taken, they are grainy.
Hi,
I had a Wildfire S a few months ago, which I had owned for about 4 months (The Wildfire S was terrible) so I decided to root it.
To say I was happy after I had rooted was an understatement, I flashed CM7 onto the device, which extremely improved the phone.
The problem was, as soon as I flashed it, i started developing problems (not rom caused) such as a constant noise when in calls etc.
Now, my question is I own a HOX, which is an absolute epic phone to say the least.
I really want to use Vipers ROM / PerfectAndroid etc, but am so worried about rooting the HOX.
Is it worth rooting the HOX? What can go wrong and what can I expect to happen if I develop issues? (LIKE LAST TIME )
Thanks in advanced.
Wilks3y said:
Hi,
I had a Wildfire S a few months ago, which I had owned for about 4 months (The Wildfire S was terrible) so I decided to root it.
To say I was happy after I had rooted was an understatement, I flashed CM7 onto the device, which extremely improved the phone.
The problem was, as soon as I flashed it, i started developing problems (not rom caused) such as a constant noise when in calls etc.
Now, my question is I own a HOX, which is an absolute epic phone to say the least.
I really want to use Vipers ROM / PerfectAndroid etc, but am so worried about rooting the HOX.
Is it worth rooting the HOX? What can go wrong and what can I expect to happen if I develop issues? (LIKE LAST TIME )
Thanks in advanced.
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All of the ROMS for the HOX are really good, if you're worried might I suggest ARHD as it's the closest ROM to stock there is, aside from Maximus ROM.
If you follow my guide (in my sig) then the rooting will be okay
It's really not that hard
The-Last-Hylian said:
All of the ROMS for the HOX are really good, if you're worried might I suggest ARHD as it's the closest ROM to stock there is, aside from Maximus ROM.
If you follow my guide (in my sig) then the rooting will be okay
It's really not that hard
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Thanks for your reply mate, I know rooting isnt a huge process in itself. Its just knowing that if (when?) something goes wrong with my phone, im totally screwed for the warranty.
Which may cause me not able to get replacement/fixed under warranty?
Wilks3y said:
Thanks for your reply mate, I know rooting isnt a huge process in itself. Its just knowing that if (when?) something goes wrong with my phone, im totally screwed for the warranty.
Which may cause me not able to get replacement/fixed under warranty?
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unlocking your boot loader will void you warranty, but if you have a fault less hox like i got then go for it
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Is it worth it? Always personal ofcourse. Do you want to make backups? Lots of customizations? Just root to delete some system-apps or to install an add-blocker? Get the bloody fast Jelly Bean?
In my opinion: GO FOR IT
I don't know how old your One X is, but perhaps it's wise to wait a couple of weeks to see you have any faults.
Wait one or two weeks to see if it has any faults.
If it's faultfree then go root it
I tested mine 12 days before unlocking the bootloader.
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It's not actually true that it'll void your warranty. Well not completely anyway, more often than not HTC will honor the warranty if it's a hardware issue, if it's software and it's messed up because you fscked up your HOX then it's on your own head... but it's incredibly hard to do so, it's pretty hard to completely brick a phone if you read and follow the guides and if you manage to brick it then you shouldn't even be holding it!
At least that's the general consensus nowadays...
Huubs said:
Is it worth it? Always personal ofcourse. Do you want to make backups? Lots of customizations? Just root to delete some system-apps or to install an add-blocker? Get the bloody fast Jelly Bean?
In my opinion: GO FOR IT
I don't know how old your One X is, but perhaps it's wise to wait a couple of weeks to see you have any faults.
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My HOX is about 2 months old now, and seen no issues what so ever. I want to be able to customise it to be honest, thats about it. It runs smooth and fast as it is, but I get bored of things so easy and the Sense UI etc is boring me to death now .
And thats another thing putting me off rooting mate, JellyBean is (Should be) just around the corner? So don't know whether to wait, or Root
Flo95 said:
Wait one or two weeks to see if it has any faults.
If it's faultfree then go root it
I tested mine 12 days before unlocking the bootloader.
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I have had my phone longer than that, but still very very worried about rooting.
The-Last-Hylian said:
It's not actually true that it'll void your warranty. Well not completely anyway, more often than not HTC will honor the warranty if it's a hardware issue, if it's software and it's messed up because you fscked up your HOX then it's on your own head... but it's incredibly hard to do so, it's pretty hard to completely brick a phone if you read and follow the guides and if you manage to brick it then you shouldn't even be holding it!
At least that's the general consensus nowadays...
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Ah I see, do you know of any cases where the hardware has gone wrong, and HTC have still honored the warranty even though they were rooted?
Was reading a thread of someone having a convo with HTC, and they adimantly stated that if the bootloader is unlocked you are not covered by warranty, and my understanding is that the bootloader HAS TO BE LOCKED to be rooted?
Thanks all !
It is worth doing it, yes.
I waited tree months staying on stock, but rooted, then i decided to install ARHD 2.3.2. Stock was already very good but a custom rom gives the HOX the rest to be the best phone on market. Battery life increases, the handling is even more fluid and laggless as before.
What can going wrong? Well, the most common failure is to forget flashing boot.img as a separate step, because this is unusual against the procedure done with desire or others.
Also restoring a nandroid backup also requires to flash boot of the backup separately. If you keep the boot images at your PC and the ROM Zips on your device, you are well prepared to do this.
Hi mate,
Yes I will make sure to back EVERYTHING up. I have a couple more questions.
I have seen people saying flash RUU, Flash Kernal, etc.
I don't know what the RUU is and im not very informed about Kernals, I know the ROM is the OS, the Kernal is the Driver? I think (NOT A CLUE ABOUT RUU)
And I have heard of battery life getting drained much quicker etc after root? Or people developing signal problems etc.
Finally, if I do root, and decide I don't like it, can I revert to stock and retain warranty?
Again thanks for all the help so far guys !
had 3 phones...last one had a big gap on the left hand side and had issues with power button. had phone unlocked and rooted...left the phone unlocked but flashed back the stock rom that came with the phone...send it to the repair center and the phone came back brand spanking new and still unlocked and everything was covered by the warranty. as long as you do not fry the motherboard due to overclocking and you are careful what you flash and take time to read and search of what you want to do i say you are good to go mate...and like i said few minutes ago to someone else..if you want to customize and love playing with different themes then Viper is your rom...if you want a clean cut rom but still with the tweaks from Viper then ARHD or Renovate are the great roms and far more faster if you ask me...
plus do not forget there is MIUI based on sense framework which for me is awesome and has so many themes and lockscreens to play with and also JB roms to
Goku80 said:
had 3 phones...last one had a big gap on the left hand side and had issues with power button. had phone unlocked and rooted...left the phone unlocked but flashed back the stock rom that came with the phone...send it to the repair center and the phone came back brand spanking new and still unlocked and everything was covered by the warranty. as long as you do not fry the motherboard due to overclocking and you are careful what you flash and take time to read and search of what you want to do i say you are good to go mate...and like i said few minutes ago to someone else..if you want to customize and love playing with different themes then Viper is your rom...if you want a clean cut rom but still with the tweaks from Viper then ARHD or Renovate are the great roms and far more faster if you ask me...
plus do not forget there is MIUI based on sense framework which for me is awesome and has so many themes and lockscreens to play with and also JB roms to
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Bah everyone is telling me to Root it, like I said yeah I wan't customisation with themes etc, which Viper has really drawn me into, but on the other hand I want a clean and bugless rom, that just WORKS GREAT.
Thanks for your example of warranty, thats sorted my head out a bit.
Will probably take the plunge within the next few days, and give it a go.
Just building my confidence up to do it !!
THANKS SO MUCH EVERYONE !
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Bah everyone is telling me to Root it, like I said yeah I wan't customisation with themes etc, which Viper has really drawn me into, but on the other hand I want a clean and bugless rom, that just WORKS GREAT.
Thanks for your example of warranty, thats sorted my head out a bit.
Will probably take the plunge within the next few days, and give it a go.
Just building my confidence up to do it !!
THANKS SO MUCH EVERYONE !
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no problem my friend. here is a good start up guide for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_One_X
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Bah everyone is telling me to Root it, like I said yeah I wan't customisation with themes etc, which Viper has really drawn me into, but on the other hand I want a clean and bugless rom, that just WORKS GREAT.
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All the roms are great :laugh:. Just pick what suits your needs. And good luck with the flashing!
And if you want bugless, stay away from the Jelly Bean roms. Fast as hell and buttersmooth but not completely bugfree. I'm waiting for the official HTC Jelly Bean-update, i hope the AOSP-rom-developers can bring us some magic than.
Huubs said:
All the roms are great :laugh:. Just pick what suits your needs. And good luck with the flashing!
And if you want bugless, stay away from the Jelly Bean roms. Fast as hell and buttersmooth but not completely bugfree. I'm waiting for the official HTC Jelly Bean-update, i hope the AOSP-rom-developers can bring us some magic than.
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Don't suppose you know what happens when / if they release the official JB Rom,
Can you go back to stock roms, cuz I think when JB is released, I would want to go back to stock.
I've heard rumors in september. I repeat rumors!!!! Could also be december, you never know with HTC
And it's always possible to go back to stock. Only important thing is that you have a nandroid backup of your stock rom without root.
- unlock bootloader
- flash cwm
- do a nandroid backup!!!! and place a copy on your PC
to go back to stock after flashing custom rom:
- extract boot.img from your stock rom nandroid backup on your PC and flash it via fastboot.
- wipe data/cache, factory reset in cwm
- restore stock rom nandroid backup in cwm
- flash corresponding recovery from your stock rom via fastboot
After that you can OTA-update your One X and you're ready to enjoy some wonderful jelly beans
Happy flashing!
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I've heard rumors in september. I repeat rumors!!!! Could also be december, you never know with HTC
And it's always possible to go back to stock. Only important thing is that you have a nandroid backup of your stock rom without root.
- unlock bootloader
- flash cwm
- do a nandroid backup!!!! and place a copy on your PC
to go back to stock after flashing custom rom:
- extract boot.img from your stock rom nandroid backup on your PC and flash it via fastboot.
- wipe data/cache, factory reset in cwm
- restore stock rom nandroid backup in cwm
- flash corresponding recovery from your stock rom via fastboot
After that you can OTA-update your One X and you're ready to enjoy some wonderful jelly beans
Happy flashing!
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Hi mate, might have to save what you just said as a notepad when I get home
Don't know why im finding it such a struggle to take the leap of faith and root it, do I worry too much?
Wilks3y said:
Hi mate, might have to save what you just said as a notepad when I get home
Don't know why im finding it such a struggle to take the leap of faith and root it, do I worry too much?
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I know exactly what you mean. It took me a year before i rooted my desire. You root when you are ready for it.
Here's i.m.o. the best guide for rooting your One X: http://onexroot.com/one-x-root/how-to-root-one-x/
Step 18: go to your location where you put the onexroot-folder
Step 39: Download cwm 5.8.4.0 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594819 and place it in the onexroot-folder and flash it with fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.4.0-endeavoru.img
After flashing cwm, make a nandroid backup from your stock rom. Then you continue with step 40.
If you're ready with the guide and it's not ok, you missed something. This almost can't go wrong.
Goodluck :good:
Go for it
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Go for it
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See, this morning I was all up for it.
I was like "Yeah, what can go wrong, the ROM's look brilliant, you've rooted and flashed a phone before and it was better after flash".
Now I'm like "No DONT DO IT, if something goes wrong then you'll have to pay for repairs, when you've already spent 500£ on the phone".
BAH why does Vipers ROM exist, I would be able to stay away from rooting without that ROM, I just love the red/blue themes where its all black etc.
hi I'm pretty new to the android os and I'm thinking about jailbreaking my HTC one x (tegra) to get jellybean, which im sick of waiting for and to get better performance. the thing is, iv read/watched a lot of guides on how to jailbreak/flash the one x and there is some confusing points and points in which the guides contradicts themselves. so just a few questions:
can you revert back to factory settings at any point? iv read in some guides that its impossible, I can't see why though?
what exactly is a ruu? is it the equivalent to a bios? is hboot a ruu?
I know that it is possible to brick your phone if you delete the ruu (hence why you use clockworkmod) but it seems stupid that the phone won't even know how to charge itself, is it that easy to brick?
iv heard that you can update the kernal, what's the advantage of doing this?
any tips on what to do and avoid when doing this, we all have to start somewhere
iv been using this as a main reference for the Rom I'm wanting to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601543
thanks in advance
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hi I'm pretty new to the android os and I'm thinking about jailbreaking my HTC one x (tegra) to get jellybean, which im sick of waiting for and to get better performance. the thing is, iv read/watched a lot of guides on how to jailbreak/flash the one x and there is some confusing points and points in which the guides contradicts themselves. so just a few questions:
can you revert back to factory settings at any point? iv read in some guides that its impossible, I can't see why though?
what exactly is a ruu? is it the equivalent to a bios? is hboot a ruu?
I know that it is possible to brick your phone if you delete the ruu (hence why you use clockworkmod) but it seems stupid that the phone won't even know how to charge itself, is it that easy to brick?
iv heard that you can update the kernal, what's the advantage of doing this?
any tips on what to do and avoid when doing this, we all have to start somewhere
iv been using this as a main reference for the Rom I'm wanting to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601543
thanks in advance
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a RUU is a leaked official version of an update, it is like a custom rom but it is stock and from HTC... when you buy an HTC phone it has certain RUU installed on it.
jailbreak is for iphones (which everyone here should hate), use the word "root" and "S-OFF" and "unlocked bootloader" when you are using an android phone
you can revert back to stock only if the RUU that you're on it has already been leaked.
the HOX is very very hard to brick! but sometimes i see cases of soft-brick which is easy to solve by the way.
our phone unfortunately doesn't have S-OFF (like almost every HTC phone out there except for the ONE X) so every time you flash a rom you have to flash the corresponding boot.img which contains important file to let your phone run with a certain custom rom.
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a RUU is a leaked official version of an update, it is like a custom rom but it is stock and from HTC... when you buy an HTC phone it has certain RUU installed on it.
jailbreak is for iphones (which everyone here should hate), use the word "root" and "S-OFF" and "unlocked bootloader" when you are using an android phone
you can revert back to stock only if the RUU that you're on it has already been leaked.
the HOX is very very hard to brick! but sometimes i see cases of soft-brick which is easy to solve by the way.
our phone unfortunately doesn't have S-OFF (like almost every HTC phone out there except for the ONE X) so every time you flash a rom you have to flash the corresponding boot.img which contains important file to let your phone run with a certain custom rom.
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Thanks for the swift reply, sorry I called it that, I had a iPhone for years but I ended up hating it(just it as a mp3 player now lol).
Well I currently havent done anything to my one x so its stock, but what I'm saying/asking is, surely I can just load a stock Rom and bootloader and be back to square one?
And as for the rom/boot.IMG I can see why it is a bit more complicated. So what's, in your opinion, the biggest reason to/you've flashed from stock?
Thanks again!
There is no way for 100% back to stock (for now). Unlocking bootloader voids your warranty.
Why unlock and flash cutom rom? - Custom roms are far better than stock, better performance, longer battery life... no limit of customizing your phone.
The downside for me is only loosing warranty.
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Thanks for the swift reply, sorry I called it that, I had a iPhone for years but I ended up hating it(just it as a mp3 player now lol).
Well I currently havent done anything to my one x so its stock, but what I'm saying/asking is, surely I can just load a stock Rom and bootloader and be back to square one?
And as for the rom/boot.IMG I can see why it is a bit more complicated. So what's, in your opinion, the biggest reason to/you've flashed from stock?
Thanks again!
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because every phone i buy (android of course) will get rooted! custom roms are awesome, and nerdy
So once you unlock your bootloader and put a new Rom on you loose your warrenty because you can't revert and hide the fact that's what you did?
Hmm I don't know if I should mess with this then, I would but iv not long got my phone back from warranty because of the hardware WiFi issue.
Can anyone really sell to me why I should flash? I mean I'm interested in doing it.
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So once you unlock your bootloader and put a new Rom on you loose your warrenty because you can't revert and hide the fact that's what you did?
Hmm I don't know if I should mess with this then, I would but iv not long got my phone back from warranty because of the hardware WiFi issue.
Can anyone really sell to me why I should flash? I mean I'm interested in doing it.
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yes, you can't hide, once you have unlocked, that you have voided your warranty... you won't ever have something as stable and fast as custom roms, that's why you should root and unlock your phone
right so better proformace and better battery, is there anything else you root for? i mean what does everyone else root for, for that matter?? i mean i keep looking at my phone and thinking. Hmmm should i, shouldent i? lol