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Travel charger

I had a question about a charger - I'm interested in getting a second charger for the Vibrant. I see that the charger that comes with the Vibrant says it has an output of 5.0V and 0.7A.
If I have an old LG charger that has an output of 5.1V and 0.7A, would that work. Could it damage the battery in my Vibrant, in anyway.
Thanks.

Not sure about your old charger, but it should work. Try it out at your own risk though.
I did want to comment on the chargers for the Vibrant. The phone seems to want a lot of current to charge properly. I was using an older 5V 500mA charger that served me well with my G1 and older BB Pearl. I had the Vibrant on it and it wouldn't charge fully. I also noticed the same thing when I would hook-up the vibrant to my notebook (typically 500mA max per port).
The good news is that there are a lot of cheap 5V 1A chargers on eBay. Just make sure to check a charger's spec before buying one.
$1.75 wall charger - http://cgi.ebay.com/US-AC-Power-USB...er_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item4aa03f4b9a
I also bought 5V 1A car chargers and mini USB to micro USB adapters so that I can use my old USB to mini USB cables when I am on the go.
$2.40 car charger - http://cgi.ebay.com/1000mA-1A-USB-C...er_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item4399e189d1
Charge only $1 - http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?LH_BIN=...r&_dmpt=PDA_Accessories&_trksid=p3286.c0.m301
Charge + Data $2 - http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=mi...adapter&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

I have used my iphone charger a couple times. Very small letters on the back but I think it says it is 1.0A. Worked fine bit I went back to my vibrant charger. I also found a car charger at a circle K for $9.99. Probably could of got one a little cheaper on ebay but it was there and i needed a charge...lol
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Vegastouch said:
I have used my iphone charger a couple times. Very small letters on the back but I think it says it is 1.0A. Worked fine bit I went back to my vibrant charger. I also found a car charger at a circle K for $9.99. Probably could of got one a little cheaper on ebay but it was there and i needed a charge...lol
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Tried my old charger .. it works but is really slow compared to the one that came with the Vibrant. Probably going to end up purchasing an extra one for when I travel.

Personally I don't mind something charging slower when I travel as long as I'm getting more power to the phone than I'm using of course.

Monoprice has 1000mA
Anyone has experience with this wall charger from monoprice? (can't link, please look up Product ID: 6767)
It's rated at 1000mA. The stock charger that came with the vibrant is 700(I think). Will extra 300mA damage my phone?

sonnyg95 said:
Anyone has experience with this wall charger from monoprice? (can't link, please look up Product ID: 6767)
It's rated at 1000mA. The stock charger that came with the vibrant is 700(I think). Will extra 300mA damage my phone?
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The extra 300mA will not damage the phone. Most smart phones require 700mA-1A to charge properly. But be careful, cheapo charger has potential to fry your phone. Anytime I buy a charger from ebay or cheap vendor, I plug it in to my old MP3 player for a week before I use it with my newer devices.
I have the same one that you see on monoprice. I've been using it for almost 2 years with no problem at all, YMMV tho.
I'd recommend this one. Looks identical to the charger that comes with my 3GS. Works well, I use it every day at work for more than 6 months now. Again, YMMV.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26446#open full view

sonnyg95 said:
Anyone has experience with this wall charger from monoprice? (can't link, please look up Product ID: 6767)
It's rated at 1000mA. The stock charger that came with the vibrant is 700(I think). Will extra 300mA damage my phone?
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the max charge rate for a Li-ion battery is 1C. So you could charge at up to 1500mA.
I ordered that exact charger a few days ago.

sonnyg95 said:
Anyone has experience with this wall charger from monoprice? (can't link, please look up Product ID: 6767)
It's rated at 1000mA. The stock charger that came with the vibrant is 700(I think). Will extra 300mA damage my phone?
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The amperage rating only tells you the *maximum* possible output. The device (your phone) controls the current draw. As long as the voltage matches (5v), you can use a charger with any amperage rating which is 700mA (0.7A) or higher.
(Note that this only applies to chargers that your phone plugs into. You have to be more careful with the self-contained spare-battery chargers (where you remove the battery from the phone and put it into the charger). But those are normally battery-specific anyway.)
Also, you *might* risk damaging the battery through long-term usage of a charger that can't supply at least the minimum amperage (such as the sfsilicon's 500mA transformer). The end of a charge cycle draws the most power which is probably why sfsilicon couldn't fully charge his battery.

MV10 said:
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. The end of a charge cycle draws the most power which is probably why sfsilicon couldn't fully charge his battery.
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that might explain why my laptop wouldn't always charge to 100% - first few times it did, and i'd find the notification msg when i'd close the laptop, but last few times it didn't
learn something every day
as i use the vibrant tethered every nite while browsing (which is when it was charging), any problem with finishing the charge with the samsung wall charger? ie interrupting the charge when i take it off the laptop?

2A vs. 1A charger

In the meantime I got inspired by some threads in which people claimed that 2A (amp) charger will make it faster to charge up my note then original 1A charger. I bought original Samsung 2A charger for Samsung galaxy tab and tried that out and I must say that during the first week or two the charging time decreased from around 2.5 - 3 hours into something around 1h 40-50 min.
Later on everything returned to standard 3 hours though, charging with 2A charger is almost identical to 1A charger so from my experience there is no added value with this approach (unless ICS will make a change, or some custom rom).
For anyone interested I enclosed picture where in the top row you may see charging with 1A charger after 1h50min, 2h40min (both just random pics), then when this app (https://market.android.com/details?id=net.whph.android.battery) said it is 100% and the last picture is when galaxy note (Android) system said it is 100% (green battery icon). In the bottom row there is the same scenario with 2A charger. I am on the stock rom 2.6.35.7-N7000XXKKA.

Im not sure but I think you need a kernel that allows more than 1A charging for the 2A charger to work.

EarlZ said:
Im not sure but I think you need a kernel that allows more than 1A charging for the 2A charger to work.
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I guess so, what makes me slightly uncertain is that initially, charging time was around 2 hours ...

This is an interesting thread. I'd like to get more information about 2A chargers and whether they really make a difference.
Also I heard that when plugged to a TV (using the MHL cable) the phone may actually consume the battery more, even when plugged to the charger simultaneously. therefore if 2A chargers charge faster, it may also solve this problem.

Qvp said:
This is an interesting thread. I'd like to get more information about 2A chargers and whether they really make a difference.
Also I heard that when plugged to a TV (using the MHL cable) the phone may actually consume the battery more, even when plugged to the charger simultaneously. therefore if 2A chargers charge faster, it may also solve this problem.
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I actually have both, micro USB to USB and micro USB to MHL cables. Wasn't able to test them for a longer time as they sometimes work and sometimes don't, especially mhl cable shows videos for like 30 seconds and then there is a lost signal message on my TV, then it wakes up, then it is gone again ... I could fiddle wit it, but will rather wait for ICS upgrade and then will return to it again.
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Iphone charger
I am using the iPhone charger. It is a 2A and so far I see an improvement in the battery life. With the original charger (and BB one) the battery reading was 2100mAh . Now is 2600mAh. I don't know why or how.
Also I see a sightly improvement in how the battery lasts for normal use. I get around 18hours

antonioeram said:
I am using the iPhone charger. It is a 2A and so far I see an improvement in the battery life. With the original charger (and BB one) the battery reading was 2100mAh . Now is 2600mAh. I don't know why or how.
Also I see a sightly improvement in how the battery lasts for normal use. I get around 18hours
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the iPhone charger is 1a... Only the ipad charger is 2a
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What we need is someone with 2 notes with dead batteries and plug the original charger 1a on one and a 2a charger on the other and see which one gets fully charged first! Maybe its me but I can definitely see a difference between the original and the one I'm using (playbook charger 1.8a)
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big samm said:
What we need is someone with 2 notes with dead batteries and plug the original charger 1a on one and a 2a charger on the other and see which one gets fully charged first! Maybe its me but I can definitely see a difference between the original and the one I'm using (playbook charger 1.8a)
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I did it, and while not with 2 notes side by side, you can have a look at the pictures at the 1st post, the time and charging rate shows its pretty same on the stock rom whether you use 1A or 2A charger. (Although it was very different first one or two weeks, after that battery get used to 2A charger and charging is as slow as with 1A ...)

antonioeram said:
I am using the iPhone charger. It is a 2A and so far I see an improvement in the battery life. With the original charger (and BB one) the battery reading was 2100mAh . Now is 2600mAh. I don't know why or how.
Also I see a sightly improvement in how the battery lasts for normal use. I get around 18hours
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How did you measure the current in mAh or what app did you use? Thanks.

My bad. I am using the iPad chargers. not iPhone . Those are 2A. To verify I am using battery pro monitor.
Here is a screenshot.
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SGN stock batt with ipad charger?
Hi, I see some of you are using 2A/ipad charger to charge you SGN. My question is, will there be any side effects on that could harm the stock batt in short or long run?
FYI, atm, I have an ipad charger for home and car and i intend to just use the same charger to charge all devices including my SGN. Im not looking for a fast charging option, but just a hassle free and conveniences.
I appreciate if you could give suggestion on a dual port charger (for home and car) where I can charge my devices simultaneously at one time.

No harm as long as the volatage output from your charger is 5v. This is what pushes the current to ur device. Higher it goes more it pushes.
However the current that the charger provides decides how fast it can charge. This will also depend on the device. If the device is manufactured to charge at 1 amp and u use a 2 amp charger then it will only use 1amp. If however u use a 750mah charger it can only use 750mah and charge slowly.
@Taptalk-GalaxyNote

Hyperion dual dock with extra dock for extra batteries! 19.99 - 24.99 eBay MANY PICS!

So as promised, here's a review of the Hyperion desktop dock. Just trying to help the community!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1635558
Hyperion dual dock with extra dock for extra batteries! 19.99-24.99 eBay.* MANY PICS!
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This is a DECENT dock, if you don't mind the SLOW charging.
When I charge my Note on this dock by itself (NO 2nd BATTERY charging), the dock only charge via USB mode, compared to AC mode. You can see this using Battery Monitor Widget or via Settings --> About.
It is by design since I have TWO (2) of these, ordered in the span of 4 weeks as replacement, and both exhibit the same problem.
I also test this by comparing the charging time via the Dock (USB mode) and then via Samsung original charger and the Dock charge twice as long.
Looking at the dock power supply, it only output 1.5mA. Given that the dock have the ability to charge BOTH the Note and 2nd battery, that's about 0.750mA for each charging circuit. The power supply should output at least 2mA and split that between the Note circuit and 2nd battery circuit in the dock. Samsung original charger output 1mA by itself.

Well if you have this then charging one while using one.... You should never worry. I know I charge mine overnight then if need be, swap. I've got a total of 3 batteries but can only use 1 at a time so for me, it works.
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lanwarrior said:
This is a DECENT dock, if you don't mind the SLOW charging.
When I charge my Note on this dock by itself (NO 2nd BATTERY charging), the dock only charge via USB mode, compared to AC mode. You can see this using Battery Monitor Widget or via Settings --> About.
It is by design since I have TWO (2) of these, ordered in the span of 4 weeks as replacement, and both exhibit the same problem.
I also test this by comparing the charging time via the Dock (USB mode) and then via Samsung original charger and the Dock charge twice as long.
Looking at the dock power supply, it only output 1.5mA. Given that the dock have the ability to charge BOTH the Note and 2nd battery, that's about 0.750mA for each charging circuit. The power supply should output at least 2mA and split that between the Note circuit and 2nd battery circuit in the dock. Samsung original charger output 1mA by itself.
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Funny, I just checked the charging status and it shows AC on mine, not USB. My charged from %1 to full in just over 4 hours. This was in the dock, in the phone on an Anker battery. Not sure why yours may be different.
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Nice. Just what I've been looking for

lanwarrior said:
This is a DECENT dock, if you don't mind the SLOW charging.
When I charge my Note on this dock by itself (NO 2nd BATTERY charging), the dock only charge via USB mode, compared to AC mode. You can see this using Battery Monitor Widget or via Settings --> About.
It is by design since I have TWO (2) of these, ordered in the span of 4 weeks as replacement, and both exhibit the same problem.
I also test this by comparing the charging time via the Dock (USB mode) and then via Samsung original charger and the Dock charge twice as long.
Looking at the dock power supply, it only output 1.5mA. Given that the dock have the ability to charge BOTH the Note and 2nd battery, that's about 0.750mA for each charging circuit. The power supply should output at least 2mA and split that between the Note circuit and 2nd battery circuit in the dock. Samsung original charger output 1mA by itself.
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the device will not draw 1A if it is not a samsung charger
it is a safety protocol that the device will draw less power through non-samsung chargers
even if the dock was 2A, the device wouldnt charge at 1A -> that would mean you would damage the second battery because it is charging with >1A

dakleenupman said:
Funny, I just checked the charging status and it shows AC on mine, not USB. My charged from %1 to full in just over 4 hours. This was in the dock, in the phone on an Anker battery. Not sure why yours may be different.
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You probably have the "re-designed" version?
As I mentioned above, I have 2 of these and was emailing the manufacturer and seller back and forth about this issue. The seller tested the unit that they have and it exhibit the same problem. So it could be the version I have have different circuitry or something. I bought this a while ago, so I gave up pursuing it since it took a long time to resolve the issue that time.
The dock is working (charging that is), so its not that it is defective. But I just want to share my experiences for those who need "fast" charging (4 hours with AC v.s. 8 hours with USB) and don't have 3 batteries either.
PS: I am sure it is not my Note, because when I plug the phone with Samsung original charger, and even a NewTrent battery pack, I got "AC" charge and not USB.

lanwarrior said:
You probably have the "re-designed" version?
As I mentioned above, I have 2 of these and was emailing the manufacturer and seller back and forth about this issue. The seller tested the unit that they have and it exhibit the same problem. So it could be the version I have have different circuitry or something. I bought this a while ago, so I gave up pursuing it since it took a long time to resolve the issue that time.
The dock is working (charging that is), so its not that it is defective. But I just want to share my experiences for those who need "fast" charging (4 hours with AC v.s. 8 hours with USB) and don't have 3 batteries either.
PS: I am sure it is not my Note, because when I plug the phone with Samsung original charger, and even a NewTrent battery pack, I got "AC" charge and not USB.
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Oh. I had no idea there were different versions. I just bought this and wanted to share my experience as well.
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Slow Charging

I am travelling at the moment overseas (for work). At home my 10.1 usually charges every night in a docking station. I bought a spare lead and my trusty multi pined (world Wide) USB charger that I use for my phone etc when I travel. When I plug the Pad into the charger it only charges at about 5% per hour so from dead flat it takes a whole day. At home its recharged in a few hours. What gives?? The charger is plenty big enough and doesn't even get warm. I tried a different charger (Not a Samsung Charger) and I get the same charge rate. Any body know if there is something special about the charger and if so how can I get around this problem in the short term.
Next time Ill just bring the Samsung charger

Darkfibre50 said:
I am travelling at the moment overseas (for work). At home my 10.1 usually charges every night in a docking station. I bought a spare lead and my trusty multi pined (world Wide) USB charger that I use for my phone etc when I travel. When I plug the Pad into the charger it only charges at about 5% per hour so from dead flat it takes a whole day. At home its recharged in a few hours. What gives?? The charger is plenty big enough and doesn't even get warm. I tried a different charger (Not a Samsung Charger) and I get the same charge rate. Any body know if there is something special about the charger and if so how can I get around this problem in the short term.
Next time Ill just bring the Samsung charger
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You need a 2 amp charger. Most normal USB chargers are only 0.5 amps.

DanielNTX is right. Our toy has a 7000mAh Battery. The normal charger provides us with 2A per hour which - by using maths - makes the tab charge from 0-100 in about 3.5 hours (slightly more as you have to calculate efficiency loss and also the tab uses power during that time (Wifi, 3G, whatever's turned on)
Phone chargers usualy only deliver 500mA (or 0.5A) per hour, some more (The Blackberry charger provides 700mA for instance). Depending on how much Amp your phone charger provides, it can take longer, in the case of a 500mA charger it takes 4 times as long. (14 hours+).
It is really hard to find a good wallcharger that provides 2A that is not either flimsy as hell or pricy. HP had a firesale a few days ago where they sold their Touchpad charger (5.3V, 2A) for a cheap 5€ (including shipping) unfortunatelly my order got cancelled due to the high demand, but you should definatelly search for a charger with a higher amperage.

Yes yoar are correct the Charger I am using although physically large is only one amp.
Looks like I am in the market for a 2 amp charger

When you are charging, is there a red cross through the battery symbol in the bottom right of the screen?
If so, then the problem is that your charger does not signal to the tab that it is a charger and so the tab will only trickle charge (as it would from a regular USB port).
The solution is:
a) to buy a tab compatible charger which sends this signal
b) buy an adapter to send the signal, search for somethig like "Samsung Galaxy Tab P1000 New PC Charging Power USB Cable Adaptor" on eBay
c) if you have electronics skills make up a little circuit to fool the tab. It involves soldering a couple of surface mount resistors between the +5, D+, D- & 0v. Several pages around on it. Here's one I found in a hurry, sorry, can't post links yet... h t t p : / / forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad-accessories/314741-how-get-full-power-charge-mobile-battery-car-hp-touchpad.html

I can't find my original wallcharger anymore
I use the original usb-cable and the charge unit from my SIII but it's slow as hell. And when the tab is on most of the time there is a red cross on the battery. It's very sucky

Just go find any old wallcharger that provides 2 Amps then. I bought a second original charger off of amazon for "just" 15€. It's not the cheapest I could find, but easily the one I trust most not to burst up in flames
I would recommend staying away from cheap, flimsy adapters.
http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-ETA-P10E-Reiseladegerät-inkl-USB-Kabel/dp/B0044EAVB6/ref=pd_cp_ce_1
EDIT: I suspect the SIII charger does not output 2A, really. Such a poweradapter is very uncommon for phones (I have not seen one with such an amperage yet) and only common for "high power devices".
EDIT2: If it is this one you have (http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-ETA0U8...D2LC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1345112597&sr=8-4), then yes, this does not provide enough power for the Galaxy Tab. This has an output of only 1A.
EDIT3: For you, my belgian friend: http://www.amazon.fr/Samsung-ETA-P1...AVB6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1345112860&sr=8-2
a bit more expensive than in germany, but you have free shipping to belgium

Buying a 2A charger won't do because the tab is limiting the current it draws from the charger unless it detects the original charger. This is to comply with the USB standard maximum current of 0.5A. If the tab drew more current from a standard charger, chances are good that the charger either shuts off due to overload or simply goes defect.
To use a 2A standard charger using the full current, you need to buy/build an adaptor cable to fool the tab into thinking it's hooked up to the original charger.
Regards
Achim

I use the original charger and I get the red cross. Damn Samsung QC...

Darkfibre50 said:
I am travelling at the moment overseas (for work). At home my 10.1 usually charges every night in a docking station. I bought a spare lead and my trusty multi pined (world Wide) USB charger that I use for my phone etc when I travel. When I plug the Pad into the charger it only charges at about 5% per hour so from dead flat it takes a whole day. At home its recharged in a few hours. What gives?? The charger is plenty big enough and doesn't even get warm. I tried a different charger (Not a Samsung Charger) and I get the same charge rate. Any body know if there is something special about the charger and if so how can I get around this problem in the short term.
Next time Ill just bring the Samsung charger
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Completely turn off the tablets. Im pretty sure it'll work
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slow charging WITH samsung charger?
I've been using the samsung wall charger from the box with my galaxy tab 10.1 and a few days ago it started to only trickle charge when plugged in with it. It charges like 3-5% per hour, and says its "discharging" in the battery menu while its plugged in. Thing is, the charger I have is frayed a bit at the male-to-tab (not male-to-block) side of the cord. Could this be causing my problem? I don't want to buy another charger for no reason, but I also don't want to send in my tab for weeks on end to find out it was the charger...any advice?

Better 1.0AMP Rapid Charger recommendations

Has anyone had any success with after market rapid charging solutions? I see the OEM model number of the charger that came with the phone is ETA0U61JBEGSTA.
Has anyone found a generic equivalent for this charger? The last 2 amazon ones I bought were really slow charging & took over 4hrs to fully charge.

I use the monoprice 2.1 amp charger it works great. It may damage your battery but to me it doesn't matter I'll buy a new battery in a year for $15 if I have too.
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Pro...Id=108&categoryId=10851&subCategoryId=1085102
It has 4 ports 2 of them are 2.1amp and the others are 500mah I believe so I can plug in my ipod as well
Also bought their 2.1 amp car charger

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B00822J004?c=n&qid=1365830047&sr=8-2
Got it for $6.50 from Planet Mobile and fulfilled by Amazon. Looks and works perfectly.

Razorblood said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B00822J004?c=n&qid=1365830047&sr=8-2
Got it for $6.50 from Planet Mobile and fulfilled by Amazon. Looks and works perfectly.
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6.50? very cheap

After seeing this article http://www.androidcentral.com/acces...mium-charger-rapid-charges-android-phones-too last year, I picked up a couple for $10ea. from an online source that was going out of business. They are available for ~$15 today. This is the only thing BB offers that rocks.
For an inexpensive but quality solution, try Monoprice.
Edit: If I forget to plug in at night, in the time it takes me to get ready to leave for work, I am at 90% or better.

Just FYI, for those commenting about using chargers higher than 1A (1000 mAh), the stock kernel will only allow 1A of current to reach the battery regardless if the charger is of a higher capacity. However there are custom kernels (such as Perseus) that allow this value to be overridden, so that the battery can be charged with more than 1000 mAh of current. It is recommended to not charge the battery with a value higher than 0.7 of the battery's total capacity. For the stock 2100 mAh battery, you will want to set the charging value to 1470 mAh or less.

n023b said:
I use the monoprice 2.1 amp charger it works great. It may damage your battery but to me it doesn't matter I'll buy a new battery in a year for $15 if I have too.
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Pro...Id=108&categoryId=10851&subCategoryId=1085102
It has 4 ports 2 of them are 2.1amp and the others are 500mah I believe so I can plug in my ipod as well
Also bought their 2.1 amp car charger
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It wont damage your device. If you havent altered stock parameters than it wont draw more power than 1 amp
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I seem to remember seeing there was a cable mod to make the S3 charge faster? actually pull in more juice quicker? As I recall you had to modify the USB cable with a resistor in the right place?
I have plugged my S3 in a 2.1amp charger and I don't see it charging any faster than the 1.0amp charger. My wife's iPhone 4S however charges MUCH faster on the 2.1amp charger vs the 1.0amp charger
I'd like to figure out a way to make the S3 charger more quickly using a 2.1amp (or 1.0amp) charger if that's possible.... but I didn't book mark the thread when I saw it and can't find it again