Rhodium Android features poll - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development

Hey all,
I'm a very new user to Android, but the last few days I've been trying it out from the XDAndroid build and I love it.. I know what my next Mobile OS is going to be now. Which device is another question.
As I've used it and read some of the threads it occurred to me that it could be valuable feedback to users and developers to get a poll of several aspects of the XDAndroid build. Missing features, importance of existing features, how often you use the OS, etc.
This is my first time using this Survey Monkey tool, so forgive me if the questions aren't perfect. I've fiddled with it over the last few hours and I think it reflects most of what I've thought and from existing posts on the forum from other users.
Click here to take the survey: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GFD2QKG
As I start getting responses I'll post the results periodically. A free account doesn't appear to have the ability to publicly post the results so I'll do it periodically manually.
Thanks for taking the poll, and a huge thanks to all of the people who have worked on it and facilitated making it this easy to use Android on our devices!

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I'll post results every few days.. I have yet to figure out a decent way to scrape them. The HTML below looks the best but you can't see the free-form input. PDF you can see it.
Results as of May 05:
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May042010.pdf

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Cool.
I just took the survery.
I think I am the first one.
Hopefully, we will get a good poll on what people want the most out the features of the Andriod, which is already amazing as it is right now.

Great idea man, just took the survey ill say it was pretty nice taking it

Thanks for the poll. I've completed it although I did have to be creative with some of the answers because they didn't allow for a "none of the above" answer - I haven't used Android yet but want to as soon as GPS is working on the TP2. (Wishing I hadn't given my mum my TYTN2, otherwise I'd be playing with it already.)

lindsaysnow said:
Thanks for the poll. I've completed it although I did have to be creative with some of the answers because they didn't allow for a "none of the above" answer - I haven't used Android yet but want to as soon as GPS is working on the TP2. (Wishing I hadn't given my mum my TYTN2, otherwise I'd be playing with it already.)
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Hmm, what do you think I could modify in that regard? I'm not sure I can edit it now that it's active but I'll take any suggestions.

your answers to the "how often do you use the MJG upgrade util" or whatever it said will be null bc you cant select "never" and there are quite a few of us that update through glemsons autobuilds and have never touched the cab version. I had to select weekly for it to let me finish.
Thanks though!

Sorry about missing "Never" on a few options, first time I've created one of these polls..
Results as of right now I've just posted. I'll post every 3-4 days as it makes sense to do so.

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BRLE Vogue Kitchen AKU.0.7.0 [001]

This is my second attempt at making a Vogue Kitchen. The first was released on HowardForums for cricKet users.
This kitchen is based off of XIP Ported CE OS 5.2.1933 Build 18533.0.7.0. It can be used to build ROMs for the following carriers: Alltel, cricKet, Sprint, Generic.
I tried to find a happy medium for the pagepool and set it at 12MB. You can change the pagepool before you flash if you'd like. Raising the pagepool to say 16MB would increase the speed of the phone but would cause you to have less program memory. Just use the tool included in the RUU folder.
What is included:
Upgrade drivers and XIP to 1.17 ship rom
Upgrade base to CE OS 5.2.1933 Build 18533.0.7.0
Adobe Flash Player 7
Adobe FlashLite
Adobe Reader 2.00.288531
Arcsoft MMS 3.0.24.10c Verizon
Arcsoft MMS 3.0.26.11c Alltel
Carrier configurations for Alltel, Sprint, Cricket, and Generic (have not slimmed down the Alltel and Sprint files yet)
Set default Contact's Area Code
HTC Cube Icons (Blue - need to fix top two icon links in blue cube)
HTC Cube Icons (Yellow - Sprint)
Custom HTC Home Plugin Icons
HTC Home Plugin 1.0.824711.0 - (Sprint)
HTC Home Plugin 2.1.1005.722 (Touch Dual)
HTC Home Plugin 4-tab 2.0.907717.0 (Vogue)
HTC Home Plugin 6-tab 1.5.620.722
Auto config X-Cricket-MDN for Cricket users as well as WAP and MMS
Numerous Themes
Numerous Registry Edits/Tweaks - better performance, battery, etc.
Clear Temp
Cyberon Voice Commander 1.1
Cyberon Voice Commander 2.0
DictEditor
Registry - Disable Connection Bubble
dotFred Task Manager
Registry - Enable Server Edit (Arcsoft MMS)
Flash Video Bundle
Numerous Games
GSFinder
HTC Action Screen (Contacts button doesn't work yet)
HTC Audio Manager
HTC Camera 5.07.28555.00 (no flash)
HTC Camera 5.07.28987.00 (no flash)
HTC CommManager 6-button
HTC CommManager 8-button
HTC CommManager 10-button
HTC Home Plug (Titan)
HTC Startup Animation
HTC Streaming Media 2.10
HTC SymbolPAD SIP
HTC Vogue Keyboard SIP
HTC Voice Recorder 1.10
HTC WMP Today Plugin 1.0.227.714
HTC IA Zip
BigJ UI Tweaker .41
Jbed Java Sprint 200709017.4.1
Mobi Reader
PHM Notepad
PHM Reset
Phone ## Codes
PIEPlus
Pocket IRC
Pocket RAR
Pcket XPDF
PPCPimBackup
QuickMenu
RC Mod
RegSvr
Running Programs
s2u2 0.85
Samsung Time Today Plugin
SIP Change
SoftKey Applet
StartClean
TCPMP 0.72RC1
Today Agenda
Total Commander
TouchPal SIP
Vibrating Dial Pad Tweak
WM5 New Menu
Live Search w/Voice for Sprint users
Some big THANK YOUs to:
- Amoamare for his work on the Apache's cricKet extended ROM and for working to get cricKet customizations added to the Apache kitchen
- DogGuy at PPCGeeks for his work on the 6800 kitchen and answering my questions as I worked on the Vogue Kitchen based on 1.12.651.1 Sprint ROM
- Everyone DogGuy thanked for helping him get his kitchen up and running
- Sfaure at PPCGeeks for his work on the Bluetooth stack
- dcd1182 at xda-developers for his excellent work on XIP Porting of the updated CE OS and bearing with all my questions
- to0 at HowardForums for his excellent input/support and work on the serial program and his two ROMs
- jammis, berry_lthird, and jimska78 at HowardForums for helping me test the Vogue ROMs/Kitchen when I didn’t even own a Vogue which gave me a much better overall understanding of ROM/Kitchen development
-my wife's poor phone and all the abuse it took (i kept "borrowing" it from her at night)
-everyone else on these forums for your input and support
DISCLAIMER: As with any other custom ROM/Kitchen, there is a risk of damaging your device. I offer no warranties in the event this happens. Please do realize, however, that there haven't been any permanent casualties reported. So far, the worst that has been reported is getting stuck in bootloader mode (multi-color screen). If this happens to you, don't freak out. Head over to PPCGeeks, and read this: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9229. If you're unable to get past a specific splash screen, you may need to manually put your device into bootloader mode and install a different ROM.
A Stock Sprint Ship ROM can be found here:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_WWE_1.12.651.1_2.13.00_SPC_NV133_Ship.exe
Your phone will need to be unlocked using the Vogue Unlocker by ImCoKeMaN of PPCGeeks. This will allow you to flash custom ROMs. Please don't PM me asking how to use this. If you don't know, you probably shouldn't be doing this.
ftp://ppcgeeks:[email protected]/Vogue/Users/ImCoKeMaN/Vogue_unlocker.exe
Now that that's out of the way... here's the link; you'll need WinRAR:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BRLE_Vogue_Kitchen_AKU_0_7_0_01212008.zip
IMPORTANT INSTALLATION NOTE: You will be prompted for a serial once you install and boot into any ROM made from this kitchen. You will not be able to do anything without a serial (aside from flash a new ROM).
Here's how the serial process works: You'll be shown a code when you first boot. Send that code to the email displayed on your phone screen and I'll send you a corresponding serial to unlock the ROM.
I will give out one free serial per ROM per username on HowardForums, XDA-dev, or PPCGeeks. This is more a test of something to0 and I have been playing with rather than anything for profit as well as preventing people from selling our work. In order to obtain a serial, you must have at least 15 posts, with the majority of them being at least a little bit constructive. Serials will not change as long as you keep the same phone number so write them down for future use.
I seem to have broken the ##3424 code in some aspects of this build but not for all carriers. I will work on it and hopefully post an update in a couple days. In the meantime, make sure you change your SPC and configure your MDN MIN and all other EPST settings before flashing if you haven't done so already. ##778 and all other codes work.
I will be around if you need a code. PLEASE NO PMs. Only email the address displayed on your phone screen or use the contact info below. Or you can contact to0 (aka mooingrhinocero in the cricKet section of HowardForums for a Vogue code)
AIM: mrfluffball
AIM: to0g
Hofo: mooingrhinocero
If you choose a carrier autorun, your serial may try to run at the same time. Don't worry about it. Just let your autorun finish and it will auto soft-reset for you. If you don't have an autorun, just tap the "OK" and the device will reset.
Make sure to use ReadMe.pdf and Enjoy Flashing with the Vogue Kitchen!! If you change your pagepool, please leave feedback in a couple days so we can compare results. Amoamare, I'd love to include your cricKet theme if it's finished and you are willing to share. Please let me know. dcd1182 and sd_matto, if you have any suggestions or feedback I would be grateful for them. Please post any bugs and if you have an OEM you would like me to test and include in the next build please let me know. I will be working on cleaning up the Sprint and Alltel junk this week and at some point creating support for Bell and Telus ROMs. If anyone who is well versed in ROM building wishes to assist me, I would welcome the help.
I can't wait for this!!!
Verizon just released their phone with GPS... with that included this would be a perfect ROM ( already is )
Thanks!!
fecht
sounds like a good list, blee.
thx, we'll give it a try a send feedback on it
fecht said:
I can't wait for this!!!
Verizon just released their phone with GPS... with that included this would be a perfect ROM ( already is )
Thanks!!
fecht
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Do you happen to have confirmation or just hallway talk.....?
mbote said:
sounds like a good list, blee.
thx, we'll give it a try a send feedback on it
Do you happen to have confirmation or just hallway talk.....?
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THX..PLEASE THANK DCD FOR HIS GREAT WORK ON THE PORT. VzW is releasing the Vogue but not for a couple more months. It will be in white. Its been on Endagaget and other sites already and validated by VzW employees at PPCG.
blee0125 said:
In order to obtain a serial, you must have at least 15 posts, with the majority of them being at least a little bit constructive.
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I appreciate all the work that you guys put into these ROMs but I feel compelled to point out that, at the time of my post, you only have 14 posts on this forum. To me that is a bit hypocritical. True, it is your ROM and therefore your rules, but that just does not jive with me.
Though I only have 4 measly posts (until this one) I think that you shouldn't have to have a minimum post amount just to try a kitchen. But again, it is your work, so you get to make the rules...
And I would be frustrated more if I wanted to try your work out. But I am happy with my Touch modded the way it is, so I gues sI am just speaking out for other people who are in a similar post position as me but did want to try out your kitchen.
rainfreak said:
I appreciate all the work that you guys put into these ROMs but I feel compelled to point out that, at the time of my post, you only have 14 posts on this forum. To me that is a bit hypocritical. True, it is your ROM and therefore your rules, but that just does not jive with me.
Though I only have 4 measly posts (until this one) I think that you shouldn't have to have a minimum post amount just to try a kitchen. But again, it is your work, so you get to make the rules...
And I would be frustrated more if I wanted to try your work out. But I am happy with my Touch modded the way it is, so I gues sI am just speaking out for other people who are in a similar post position as me but did want to try out your kitchen.
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I can appreciate where you are coming from. I tend to post more at Howard Forums and occasionally PPCGeeks. Like I said in the first post, the serial thing is more a test than anything else. I'm not looking to make a profit off of it. If you have very few posts but think you are a legitimate contributor to the forums and want to try my kitchen then by all means email me or catch me on AIM and let's get you a serial. This is mainly geared to weed out the people who were selling ROMs other people had made and posted over at Howard Forums. dcd1182 does this out of enjoyment as do I. I just don't think its fair (not to mention copyright issues) for someone to go out selling beta material.
Thanks for including Bell/Telus config in your kitchen?
It will allow us to customise our "own".
SL said:
Thanks for including Bell/Telus config in your kitchen?
It will allow us to customise our "own".
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Sorry...I have the Bell stuff, just haven't looked at it enough.
If anyone has a Telus ROM and settings I can include it. I don't have it.
edit: ya know what nevermind, f'it
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exactly, how come someone with only 15 posts can copy a senior members (with over 300 posts) work and take credit for it
its not like that, my kitchen uses the great work of other people and if i didnt want others using my stuff i wouldnt post it. i just dont think the thanks section here is exactly proportionate.
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exactly, how come someone with only 15 posts can copy a senior members (with over 300 posts) work and take credit for it
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And just how would you know that...seeing how you have 2 posts.
I'm not looking to steal anyone's work. DCD did an excellent job porting. That was something I didn't even know how to do three weeks ago and am just beginning to understand.
But that being said, I've given credit numerous times through this thread for his work. Maybe you guys can break apart OEMs and separate out the parts of a ROM in a matter of hours but I know how much time I took (since December 1, 2007 when I did a very shabby cricKet kitchen COMPLETELY BY MYSELF based on 1.12.651.1) to learn rather than just try to leech.
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its not like that, my kitchen uses the great work of other people and if i didnt want others using my stuff i wouldnt post it. i just dont think the thanks section here is exactly proportionate.
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I personally broke down the OEM folders and a few of the SYS folders in this ROM. I went through and made numerous registry changes, wrote provxml files, and a few OEMs. Not to mention the hours/weeks I spent testing the ROMs and correcting errors and duplicate files. To say that I've completely stolen someone's work is unfair. If you feel more credit is due to you or to DCD then by all means take it. I sure appreciate your input, support, and feedback and respect your advice a great deal. Probably more than you realize. This is a hobby for me. I just figured others could enjoy it even if it's not as great a release as DCD's final release will be. I'm not looking for it to be. He provided a base and I'm learning and taking on the challenge of knowing the in's and out's of XIP Porting so I can do it myself in the future. But if you're going to complain of not giving credit where its due then please at least respect the time I've put into it.
I'm proud of the small role I've played in this kitchen especially the personal knowledge I gained but DCD if you'd rather I pull this kitchen down, I'll gladly do it. I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes. Just trying to give back what little I can/have learned with help to/from everyone in these online phone forum communities. Please don't take this the wrong way.
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dcd,
This is exactly why I didn't take much of a look at this kitchen. It just seemed like something wasn't quite on the level here. I was worried about using anything that that didn't have your stamp of approval. Then when I saw a post in your ROM thread annoucing the kitchen I really got concerned.
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I'm not even going to waste my time saying a whole lot except that you and I both know all the times I've helped you out before when you PMed so please don't sit there and unnecessarily flame me. If you don't like the thread and it "concerns" you then move on and don't use it. Wait for his release if it makes you more comfortable. But don't go just to say something is not on level when you haven't even used it much less read all the thank you's I made in the ReadMe talking about BUILDING UPON OTHER'S WORK.
blee,
I may have distorted what I was saying. First, I don't want to take credit from what you have done. You obviously know way more about ROM development than what I do. It is also obvious that you spent much time working on this kitchen. For that I commend you.
This is just kind of a touchy thing. You get into an issue of intellectual content intrusion. Unfortunity you kind of walk a fine line. I have seen this happen before in other forums where good people leave the forum because of stupid arguments. I would much rather see you two work together and share the brain trust as opposed to losing either one of your developments. It appears to me that we lack large levels of cooperation because of what ever reason. It would great to see big group colabratives. I bet we could really so some major developments with talented people who contribute to this site.
So, in closing my comments made earlier were only to say from looking from the outside in, I knew we were running into a situation where two knowledgable people were not going to see eye to eye. I honestly don't know either one of you, but I hope both of you will be open enough to discuss this, work together, and continue to be contributing members of this community.
Good luck to all!
blee0125 said:
I'm not even going to waste my time saying a whole lot except that you and I both know all the times I've helped you out before when you PMed so please don't sit there and unnecessarily flame me. If you don't like the thread and it "concerns" you then move on and don't use it. Wait for his release if it makes you more comfortable. But don't go just to say something is not on level when you haven't even used it much less read all the thank you's I made in the ReadMe talking about BUILDING UPON OTHER'S WORK.
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Yes I agree blee has help me on more than one occasion. My comments were not thought out before typing in my first post. My only concern is for the good of the forum. I am removing my original post as it was typed unfairly. I really just want everyone who comes to this forum to continue to grow from eachothers experiences and findings. I have always thought that's the point of the forum in the first place is to share knowledge. So blee, I apologize to you for over reacting or reacting at all. It's really none of my business.
I hope all contributors keep up their great work in this forum so dopes like me can continue to learn.
yeh i think everyone needs to relax a little its jsut a kitchen/ROM its not life or death here. Its great we have a kitchen and if DCD wants to release his own and do different things cool, we have 2 choices! Its all for the good of the community. As long as no ones making money off eachother than i think everyone needs to take a chill and relax IMO
and i think the serial from the developer is a great idea be it a little bit of a pain (maybe one day can be an automated email or such). But thats what you have to do when theres dishonest people in the world who want to make a buck off your work. I think its a good idea to explore to keep it from being sold on ebay by scammers.
No hard feelings. I stand by my post. If dcd wishes that I remove the kitchen from this forum then I will do so. If I don't hear anything then please let's get this thread back on track so we can make it better as a community. I need your help and feedback which doesn't happen unless you actually try the ROMs.
One thing that's already been mentioned is that AL_Bkgd.brn is in each of the following three folders. If you select a home plugin and the action screen together you will have a conflict running BuildOS.
OEM_brle_Cube_Icons_Blue
OEM_brle_Cube_Icons_Yellow
OEM_HTC_Action_Screen
This is resolved by:
Just manually delete that file from one of the folders either Blue/Screen or Yellow/Screen before you flash or delete it from all three and place it in OEMAPPS. I'll move it back to the OEMAPPS folder for next time.
360discgolf said:
blee,
I may have distorted what I was saying. First, I don't want to take credit from what you have done. You obviously know way more about ROM development than what I do. It is also obvious that you spent much time working on this kitchen. For that I commend you.
This is just kind of a touchy thing. You get into an issue of intellectual content intrusion. Unfortunity you kind of walk a fine line. I have seen this happen before in other forums where good people leave the forum because of stupid arguments. I would much rather see you two work together and share the brain trust as opposed to losing either one of your developments. It appears to me that we lack large levels of cooperation because of what ever reason. It would great to see big group colabratives. I bet we could really so some major developments with talented people who contribute to this site.
So, in closing my comments made earlier were only to say from looking from the outside in, I knew we were running into a situation where two knowledgable people were not going to see eye to eye. I honestly don't know either one of you, but I hope both of you will be open enough to discuss this, work together, and continue to be contributing members of this community.
Good luck to all!
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I will tell you right now why there is not that much cooperation here... The Touch is not a cheap phone in any sense and not many people are willing to accept the risks when it comes to flashing a custom ROM to their device so there goes your testers and there goes your potential users.
On another Note...
You know it's almost kinda funny how a bunch of grown men and women are arguing over this. I know a lot of work goes into creating a kitchen and to be perfectly honest, I wouldn't know the first thing about it but to argue over this is pointless, just work together and make an even better kitchen for EVERYONE to use.
So what if some jackass is trying to sell custom ROMs that they made using this kitchen... That's ignorant and disrespectful to the author in many ways but it is their business. They're going to do what they're going to do one way or another so why make the honest people have to pay for the idiots doing this? Right now you have it set up so that you need a serial just to use the ROM they build using your kitchen. As a veteran, I can tell you that this is almost like basic training... Everybody is getting punished because of a couple, or just one, idiot doing something stupid.
I spent A LONG TIME over in the Wizard forum here on Xda-Developers and once I used a kitchen to build my own ROM, I've never had to wait for a reply to an email I had no other choice but to send to use MY custom work just because I used someone else's as a base to start. I take no credit for anything you have done but why should I be penalized because I want to try your work? And to make it even worse... It sometimes takes several attempts to get a custom ROM to be just the way you want it and if I have to pay for each serial I need after the first one, there's only one other ROM I will be flashing and that is the original OEM ROM from Sprint and HTC. I work 80 hours a week and now I can't even do the one thing I enjoy doing in my free time because some guy thinks its a cool idea to pick and choose who gets to use his kitchen and who doesn't using a serial number... Ridiculous...
Last time I checked, the OEM ROM is free... The unlocker is free... There has never been a serial for anything I have ever flashed or used unless it was SHAREWARE and I DAMN sure will not pay for a custom OS when I can use the one provided on my phone for free.
I think you are in over your head trying to restrict usage of this kitchen to only people approved by yourself. If you are going to post this here and make it public, remove the restrictions so people can use it as they please and start posting custom ROMs to the forum. Yes there are going to be dishonest people who use your kitchen to try to make a few dollars but then again I have seen that over in the Wizard forum as well and not one of the people over there who have ever created a kitchen have done this... If you are not going to make this public and free to 100% of the people here who might want to use it, then you should take it down and request the thread be removed because that is not how things are done in this forum. Just look around... You'll see... Just look at your feedback to this thread and that should be enough...
Having said that, Have a nice day.
Dan.
But whatever... It's your work.
blee0125 said:
I'm proud of the small role I've played in this kitchen especially the personal knowledge I gained but DCD if you'd rather I pull this kitchen down, I'll gladly do it.
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nah, i think my point was completely missed, and i removed my comment because i knew it would just provoke a stupid argument. theres really no reason why i would want you to remove a working kitchen you provided the vogue community.
blee0125 said:
I can appreciate where you are coming from. I tend to post more at Howard Forums and occasionally PPCGeeks. Like I said in the first post, the serial thing is more a test than anything else. I'm not looking to make a profit off of it. If you have very few posts but think you are a legitimate contributor to the forums and want to try my kitchen then by all means email me or catch me on AIM and let's get you a serial. This is mainly geared to weed out the people who were selling ROMs other people had made and posted over at Howard Forums. dcd1182 does this out of enjoyment as do I. I just don't think its fair (not to mention copyright issues) for someone to go out selling beta material.
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Blee, I have to agree with RainFreak... The minimum post thing is not in the spirit of cooperation. I TOTALLY agree with you about someone taking your work and selling it! Those guys should be ferreted out and banned. Most of the good people on this site and others are here to collaborate and learn. Placing artificial hoops to jump through is counter-productive to the spirit of this forum...
With tremendous respect, but I thought you would like to know.
DJ

X1 Panles from MODACO: Working Almost PERFECT!

Hi all,
Firstly, Posting this in a seperate thread, as SINGH here is getting a bit annoyed seeing me write about someone else doing similar project, in his thread. People have to have a open mind too, when it comes to developing, and should appreciate other people's work and not be insecure about their project.
This is just like different members here developing great roms for us. But we all know every rom here, suits some, doesnt suit some. And most of us here keep switching from ROM to ROM, just to try out new stuff, and i see the ROM developers here are very open to people using other roms and reporting in their thread about it, discussing out the goods of other ROM, in another ROM's thread. Rom Builders i have seen, in this forum, have been very open to this and are taking up good bits from others. Only when this is there, we have a neat and healthy run going on with new roms coming up.
Enough of this for now,
This is to present you the work of PAUL, the ADMIN at MODACO, and he has compiled these in a very good manner and is working great.
I have been using the Panels by MODACO from past 2 days nonstop now, and its working SUPERB, without any hangups at all, and i have been switching from the Fish Panel to X1 Panel to Mobile Shell Panel and they are all working just perfect. No extra Battery Drain, no big jump in memory usage, no Slowing of device, No Hangups either.
Only problem, to say if, i see is that changing between panels, is taking a few seconds, and is not instant. And it can't be assigned to a hardware button.
Please have a look here to download and know more of it.
http://www.modaco.com/content/blackstone-blackstone-modaco-com/276540/panels-on-touch-hd-installer/
Please install it at your own risk, as Paul clearly states it as EARLY BETA!, for me, It works Perfect. might not for you. But if u are game enough, then go ahead, try it out, i hope it will work just perfect for you too!
Thanks again to PAUL @ MODACO.
PS: Singh's cab when it comes out, surely must be much better than this as he is working on it in depth, and sorting out these delay problems too, i dont deny this, but as of now, to play around, Modaco has something for you. I highly respect SINGH's work on the Panels, and wish him best of luck.
For clarity, Modaco's version does not work perfectly and has all the constraints and issues that have prevented !SINGH! from releasing a CAB.
Many of insane devil's comments are valid but please don't be misled into thinking that this is a fully functional solution. Use with caution and in the expectation of lots of soft resets.
If you are desperate to have something to show to your mates, go for it, otherwise read all the stuff in !SINGH!'s thread about why it's not currently working and accept that this is a real challenge, technically.
Fraser, have u used the Modaco's cab?
Personally, still going on good with the panels at 2.5 days, i have not had to make any resets till now, and memory hasn't gone up above 58% usage,(for me, without panels, usually its around 55-56%). And best part is, i havn't even disabled the TF3D! so i have both working perfectly well. and i just hope it goes on like that for a long time! Even if i have a reset right now, its still good score having to reset it once in 2.5 days. Singh will be able to package it better and do away the flaws that i mention below, for sure, no doubt in that. But for now, this works as near perfect.
I just dont understand why everyone is making such a big deal of it, while it is working just fine. As i did say, the only problem is that the Panel's choice menu, takes a few seconds to load (takes 8-9 Seconds on mine), which is ok as of now, to think it is something new, but once u are on a panel, and dont intend to change it every few minutes, this shouldnt be a problem at all.
Another Flaw is that when the HOME button is pressed (having TF3D enabled) it goes to TF3D, and the Panels shut down. So again have to open Panels and select the one u want.
Lastly, it cant be mapped to a button. Best way is to have that to show on ur start menu. And then select from there. OR Have it as a "favourite" app on the X1 Panel / SPB Mobile Shell panel, and select it right from your screen, close to your finger.
You are right, working really good! Personally I do not notice any particular slowness even in switching between them (2-3 secs). As you said not perfect but usable.
Still have to fully test stability though.
I also installed it.
Basically it is OK.
It is not so slow as I think.
I encountered 2 episodes of hanging.
1) switching to TF3D without closing panel, then open and close communication panel.
2) switching to TF3D without closing panel, then soft reset.
It then hanged upon the green window mobile screen.
Otherwise, it is good.
Probably, complete closing of panel is essential.
So can you:
Use the Media Panel? No
Use the Facebook Panel? No
Use the Radio Panel? No
Switch between panels more than 5-10 times without a soft reset? Probably not
So it's not working perfectly then. Even the posts over on Modaco say that.
At the moment this remains no more than a toy and again, to the inexperienced and unwary I would say by all means try this, but please do so in full awareness of the issues it may cause.
I've been using the xperia panel from this morning and I had no soft resets till now. Actually I really like this panel because it's really comprehensive. No problems not having media, facebook and radio because I can have shortcuts on the panel itself for those. As for the switching I did played a lot the first hour without any issue but I don't think that you will switch tons of times a day in any case.
That said I think it's only a good thing if many people work on the same thing you know, competition just gives you one more reason to work harder...
really perfect
nice work madaco
Hey.. just installed. It is running good, no issues as yet. Will update if any... Thanks for sharing this with us.
iain.fraser said:
So can you:
Use the Media Panel? No
Use the Facebook Panel? No
Use the Radio Panel? No
Switch between panels more than 5-10 times without a soft reset? Probably not
So it's not working perfectly then. Even the posts over on Modaco say that.
At the moment this remains no more than a toy and again, to the inexperienced and unwary I would say by all means try this, but please do so in full awareness of the issues it may cause.
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Really sad to see that u dont like it one bit, Fraser, but then, its ok. Afterall, people are slowly staring to use it now, and they are also having great experience. Maybe you should give it a go again, you might have a problem with the rom that u are using, which is popping troubles while using the Panels.
About the Media Facebook and Radio panels, frankly fraser, we gotta be less picky when it comes to stuff not meant for our phones. And anyway, the best panels are the X1 panel, SPB Mobile shell panel and the Today screen panel (have pocketplus today plugin+inesoft addressbook plugin+messages+calendar+tasks). And for the Fancy use, the Fish panel is the best. All these three panels are working superb!
to All:
I haven't had resets at all till now, but in next five minutes my phone will get reset as my battery is on 1% now, and i am waiting it to switch off completely, and then put it to recharge, as am using a new high capacity battery, which needs to be charged only after being discharged compeltely for first 2-3 cycles.
Till now, i didnt have any hangups with using TF3D together. And i am switching to TF3D once for 2-3 minutes once every half hour to see the stock update on the "stocks" page in TF3D, very useful for me!
Just keep playing around, maybe it will get set in a few days once it gets used to your rom.
Anyone here knows where we can get more panels, which are made by developers other than SE themselves? i had read somewhere that there is a site which has them, but not getting it now.
Well a bit disappointing. I follow the thread on Modaco and i was happy to see this posting, but old news. Still no update and the first release was last year.
Well for something not designed for our device it runs rather well.
Actually I really like the way the default x1 panel was designed since it has almost all the essential features of tf3d in one single screen and also the way that rss feeds work that from my point of view, tf3d lacks on this matter.
I strongly recommend to all of you to test it just for the experience since in the worst case scenario you will just soft reset your device and you can uninstall it at any time.
Have fun...
i also installed it a few weeks ago. it's working perfectly on my device. sometimes it will freeze and i have to softreset but everything works fine to me.
Is there any chance this might work on a vogue?
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Really sad to see that u dont like it one bit, Fraser, but then, its ok.
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Just keep playing around, maybe it will get set in a few days once it gets used to your rom.
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To be clear, it's not in the least bit about what I like and don't like, it's about the fact that this is imperfect and people, especially the many noobs on this site need to be aware of that fact.
I'm delighted for you that your version seems to be working, if highly sceptical. But please do some reading on the various Panels threads already in existence dating back to November and you will find abundant evidence of proper testing that confirms this is the exception rather than the norm. You have uncovered nothing new, merely Modaco's cruder version of the work !SINGH! produced for beta testing back at the end of November. Neither work properly for most people, irrespective of the amount of time you allow for it to get 'used to your rom'...!!
The reason !SINGH! did not release his version is because the many people on the site who treat it as a helpdesk would have inundated him with 'you broke my phone...' nonsense. Frankly I'm not in the least bit interested whether people install it or not, I just think sweeping and inaccurate statements like 'it works perfectly' are dangerous and need to be balanced out by the weight of evidence.
So to all: please do as you wish, just do so in full knowledge of all the facts - I hope it works for you
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I just think sweeping and inaccurate statements like 'it works perfectly' are dangerous and need to be balanced out by the weight of evidence.
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never have I agreed more with a statement on this board. Absolutely well said Iain!!
I think that if you read the 1st post (and not just the title) it is VERY clear that it's a beta and you install it at your own risk (like anything you can download from here, developed by highly skilled people but nonetheless without ANY guarantee). This is again stated at Modaco's. I really don't understand why you repeat the same (obvious) alerts many times. That said I'm suggesting something new here, why not start a poll to state the usefullness/stability of this panel version. That could help the common user to decide wether to give it a try or not.
Firstly.. Why create a new thread????????????
modaco created one long ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=453624
It's been dead a month.. with not a single post, but it is exactly the same as this thread.! Take the hint. It's no longer being worked on!
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never have I agreed more with a statement on this board. Absolutely well said Iain!!
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I was weary on saying anything.. then I saw this post, and I too agree with what Iain & Mallman said.
I made a comment on the other thread at the start of Dec2008
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2996255&postcount=350
In that post.. I actually told them how to re-create exactly what Paul had.
Just that sweeping statements that said Perfectly.. and Brilliantly,.. for noobs with a new HD in their hands..
Perfectly = I have to have it and it won't break my phone.
and it is far far far from stable or perfect. You will learn in due time. This I know as there is no way your HD was manufactured more stable at running modaco's panels cab than any other HD on the planet.
It is flaky... and if you had read the other thread (which i know you were posting in in Nov last year)...you would know there are those way before yourself that said exactly the same.. then stated later on..' Ok.. it is bad'.. or 'it's caused hang ups... and i have de-installed it'.... have you forgotten?
Some of those are ones that made me furious and made me question why I would even bother continuing..
anyways.. I leave you to your thread...
Iain... Nice to see you mate!
Mallman.. You gets everywhere!
Have a great 2009 to you both.
PS.. I agree with the never a more correct statement ever made on here than Iains
PPS.. And If you want to advance it some.. Work on what i put on that post above.. and you can see clearly what you need to do to get to Pauls stage..and then work forward to giving everyone on here a stable version...for me too
PPPS .. You got the Title wrong... ITS X1 Panels not Panles!
I hope someone somewhere gets a working version soon, my 1 year old daughter loves the fish and I love anything that gives daddy some peace and quiet
to add what singh has already explained, i also has already tried and install the panels from modaco almost a month now.
yes it seems work alright for couple days... but eventually u will experience hangs more then b4 trust me... those panels are still inside my hd. but i never touch it anymore... do it only to show off that the hd can play the x1 panels... and show kids the fish... ofcourse after that i must reset as it create freeze.
so for you who wanted to try.. try it... but no 1 to blame hereee install the cab try the panels. and stop using it. it will give you screen freeze more day by day!!
singh i hope u still developing the x1 panel for our beloved hd bro!!!!

Key Files Chart

A few changes:
Alright so first off after seeing that this actually got some response, I'm opening it up for other people to edit as well. Hopefully we can figure out a way to do this responsibly... But I figure a community effort on this is much more valuable (especially because my theming is a bit rusty)
Key Files Chart
I am also gonna start modelling this off of a Cyanogen build because those builds seem to be the most poplar now. Keep in mind that much of what works in one theme translates well to most others.
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Original Post:
Hey guys so here is what I've been working on.
(Use new Link Above)
Its pretty much a simple list of locations of files that are essential to theming and what they control. This is definitely meant to be simple and geared more towards beginners. I think the thing that was hardest thing for me to learn theming was finding out where specific files were. So hopefully this might help bring down the learning curve.
Plan is to keep on updating this as long as there is interest and questions that people raise. Most of this is from my, relatively, limited knowledge of theming so if anyone else wants to jump in on this, I would be more than happy to add you as a collaborator (thats right, YOU!).
Also, I have this written according to how I know Haykuro's Builds work (because thats the version I use). If things are similar enough to other builds, it shouldn't be too hard to compile a master list across all three 1.5 builds. Let me know. : )
what a great idea! I wish this would have been available to me when I started my first theme! good work
Haha thanks. I been lax bout it lately cuz it really doesnt seem to be catching on at all. Ill wait and see if anymore interest builds up before continuing to update.
Hi!
I would be interested in an update I have been wading through a ton of information, I want to make a theme myself and I have just finished setting everything up properly on my system. I have seen how many image files there are to sort through and the names would be a great help, and I think, a good idea for others too
RainCrow said:
Hey guys so here is what I've been working on.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=r_ua-t_U23ci5_oxwQ4mGrg
Its pretty much a simple list of locations of files that are essential to theming and what they control. This is definitely meant to be simple and geared more towards beginners. I think the thing that was hardest thing for me to learn theming was finding out where specific files were. So hopefully this might help bring down the learning curve.
Plan is to keep on updating this as long as there is interest and questions that people raise. Most of this is from my, relatively, limited knowledge of theming so if anyone else wants to jump in on this, I would be more than happy to add you as a collaborator (thats right, YOU!).
Also, I have this written according to how I know Haykuro's Builds work (because thats the version I use). If things are similar enough to other builds, it shouldn't be too hard to compile a master list across all three 1.5 builds. Let me know. : )
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This is great; although I am new to Android themes, I have extensive experience with BB themes, although that is the "apples to oranges" scenario. Plazmic of course does the grunt work in those, but I have written svg's for animation, hidden docks etc. Hopefully that will help me catch on at a faster rate compared to never having done that sort of thing. So any info you can pass along is much appreciated!- Chris aka riffman
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Awesome work. You just simplified SO much of what I was not looking forward to.
I would like an update as well. I am lost sometimes. lol
I'm good on what most of the .png files control, but if you could make one for the .xml files in framework-res.apk/res/layout that would be killer.
Haha wow. Five months later I'm seeing this thread actually got some feedback (And linked on the "Helpful Threads" sticky to boot). I was considering making the document an open project and just working on maintaining the structure if that sounds helpful to people because there are plenty of things that I would like to know as well (like .xmls)
EDIT: Alright I just changed it to open system so that anyone can edit it. I should probably also change the name off from Haykuro seeing as how hes out of the running now...

(REQ) One hundred push ups app

Hello guys. I would like to request a one hundred push ups app.
This is the website: hundredpushups.com/index.html
And there is already an iphone app for it. Maybe someone is able to make the same thing? So a little stopwatch + reminder when you need to push up and the weeks etcetera.
Great thanks!
I could probably make something like this. But it would have to be on my backburners until i finish up FFP_LockScreen (which shouldn't be too much longer). And put in the time that VisualGVoice deserves (*sigh*). If there were incentive to make such an app, I could push it up my To-Do list, but realize that my other apps have incentives as well (both monetary and challenges to my coding abilities).
It wouldn't be too hard to make, in fact. If someone wants to dev it, but needs the concepts on how to code it, I would be more than glad to help that way.
Cyclonezephyrxz7 said:
I could probably make something like this. But it would have to be on my backburners until i finish up FFP_LockScreen (which shouldn't be too much longer). And put in the time that VisualGVoice deserves (*sigh*). If there were incentive to make such an app, I could push it up my To-Do list, but realize that my other apps have incentives as well (both monetary and challenges to my coding abilities).
It wouldn't be too hard to make, in fact. If someone wants to dev it, but needs the concepts on how to code it, I would be more than glad to help that way.
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I don't suppose you'd have time to modify imgresize to report back the image dimensions? I love the app, but I would love it even more if I fed it an argument like "-find res" - and it returned the x and y dimensions, so that I can determine whether an image needs resizing or not. Sorry for the ot.
Cyclonezephyrxz7 said:
I could probably make something like this. But it would have to be on my backburners until i finish up FFP_LockScreen (which shouldn't be too much longer). And put in the time that VisualGVoice deserves (*sigh*). If there were incentive to make such an app, I could push it up my To-Do list, but realize that my other apps have incentives as well (both monetary and challenges to my coding abilities).
It wouldn't be too hard to make, in fact. If someone wants to dev it, but needs the concepts on how to code it, I would be more than glad to help that way.
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Thanks for you help man! I really appreciate it
Hopefully more developers will help to get this app ready and working!
bump, anyone?
igi0n said:
bump, anyone?
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I will consider this after I release the next version of LateReader.
By the time can somebody post the screenshots from the iphone application. The screenshots really help a lot when developing a GUI intensive application.
Here are all the images you need:
itunes.apple.com/nl/app/hundred-pushups/id301174591?mt=8
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And if someone is developing it, could you please bring out a Qvga version first? I got a palm treo pro
igi0n said:
Here are all the images you need:
itunes.apple.com/nl/app/hundred-pushups/id301174591?mt=8
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And if someone is developing it, could you please bring out a Qvga version first? I got a palm treo pro
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If I happen to start developing this, it will have to be resolution independent then (usually no big deal), because I have a HD2 (WVGA).
Also the link contains only two images of the iphone app as far as I see. If we could have more screenshots (one for each screen), that would help a lot. I know, the concept is already very simple, but still having some screens to start with makes the development process real faster.
Edit : actually the link contains 5 images but still not all the screens covered. OK, whatever, this at least something to start with.
Some more images are over here,
topiphoneresource.info/hundred-pushups-app-review/
A little video about it!
youtube.com/watch?v=juRnP-Ub0h4
BUMP.
Vizier, how's it going with the app? Have you started the project already ?
igi0n said:
BUMP.
Vizier, how's it going with the app? Have you started the project already ?
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Not yet... LateReader still requires my time I believe.
Anyway, I will definitely look into this if no one starts developing, but I can not promise for when I would start it
I too have this app for my ipod touch and I have the sit-ups one. I been thinking about making this as an app, which should be simple enough. The only thing I need to figure out is the number of push ups required for each days etc.
For example, when you first use it you are suppose to do as many as you can and then enter that number. From there the program works out how many push ups you have to do each day. How do you work that out?
Gaz25 said:
I too have this app for my ipod touch and I have the sit-ups one. I been thinking about making this as an app, which should be simple enough. The only thing I need to figure out is the number of push ups required for each days etc.
For example, when you first use it you are suppose to do as many as you can and then enter that number. From there the program works out how many push ups you have to do each day. How do you work that out?
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You can use the tables provided in the website. (www.hundredpushups.com, etc.)
nice! I will take a look
Wanted to say the same, check out the tables @ the website. when you start up the app you can just choose your table and from there a little timer appears and you have to do the pushup's your supposed to do
I have started work on this application and will keep you posted with updates. Any idea for a program name? Don't really want to call it "100 pushups"
Gaz25 said:
I have started work on this application and will keep you posted with updates. Any idea for a program name? Don't really want to call it "100 pushups"
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How about "Flexiones" or "Chester" or "Daily Break" or "Earth Mover" or "Parallels"???
Just throwing out what just popped in
Can I help you with the beta... PM me.
Push it to the limit!
Could i be a beta tester?
After just discovering the hundred push up site the other day and deciding to do it; it took one quick search to find you guys have just started making this program!
Would love to help with any beta testing if I could be useful!
You can all be beta testers
There are 3 main stages/versions I'm aiming for.
Functionality - This will be the first version which will have a rubbish GUI but its purpose will be to make sure the program works.
GUI - This will be as above but a nice polished GUI to run it :-D
Final Build - After I post the GUI version I will be asking if anyone wants features added or something changed etc. This version will have those changes.
Here's what I currently have and testing in the Functionality version.
* Databased filled with the 6 weeks programs.
* Main menu with 3 buttons. "Today's Program", "Log/Charts" and "Good Form". The last 2 buttons are currently disabled.
* Today's Program displays a test screen after every week and will create a program for the next week based on the results.
* Today's Program displays the week number, Day, number of sets and the number of reps for each set. There is also a working timer for the rest periods.
* After each program has been completed the data is recorded.
At the moment everything seems to be working, I simulated 2 weeks worth and everything recorded and the correct programs loaded etc. So, if I continue as I am I may have a first release ready by the weekend for people to play with.

Please don't kill me but ...

i know this don't sound professional and to be honest a litttle annoying but
i wanted to try this mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32385441
the BB10 lockscreen but i don't understand it's instructions
How to :
1) Apply patch(diff) with resources.
2) Compile.
3) Done
...? huh ? i don't get it ...any help ?
I think the patch method is for more experienced users. I don't understand it either. It seems like it might not matter though. As long as you are running a ROM with the T Mobile theme engine, it's going to be available through the Play Store soon. Just a heads up, rather than starting a new thread, wait a couple of days to see if the requests for more information in the original thread turn anything up. Someone might well be writing up a how-to guide, but that kind of thing takes time to do right. We just need to be respectful of the fact that the people who are able to provide that kind of information are doing so as a hobby. Good work takes time, so let a little time pass.
Edit: Seems like there's already a how-to link posted.
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The patch is for people that compile their own roms from source.
good day.
there's tutorials on both subjects.
i would think most don't have the determination to get there.

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