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Whenever I connect my jasjar to gprs anyone trying to call me gets a "User not reachable" message.
I contacted my service provider and they told me that this is because all the four incoming ports are busy in data transfer that is why a user not reachable message is played.
This is a very big problem for me as I m connected to net most of the times and also dont want to miss any calls
Hoping someone has a solution.........
I had the same problem the other day on my XDA IIi, family trying to call and not getting through but i was playing around a lot on the web. I nearly always have my GPRS connected and usually don't have any problem receiving calls, must be just because i was downloading at the time.
Hey, there is a registry hack in the wiki about keeping gprs open all then time. Would there be another possible to keep one channel open for gsm all the time ??
regards,
Ruud
unfortunatly, this is the radio design or limitations of most gsm radios. It uses a radio that can only have GPRS active or Voice active. If you can use utms, you can have both utms and voice active.
It is only an issue when data is actually active (downloading or surfing) . Its ok if gprs is connected, only problem is when it is actually transmitting or receiving...
there is currently no utms network available at my place right now
Is there any way to keep one of the ports free for recieving voice calls only while others can take gprs data
Hi Pankaj bhai,
Assuming the signal strength is good...U will receive a call while u are surfing the net...but not when downloading any file...I use "GPRS Always ON" and I do not face any problems receving the calls.
Are you Airtel? I had this problem - when I was in Delhi - Had to call and ask them for FULL service.
Seems that they have partial GPRS and full GPRS.
Class 2 ( ithink this is what it is called) means that data call will be dropped when voice comes in - so if you are doing anything on web/dl - it should stop to give way for voice - which is not happening in your case.
I love UMTS - you can do both - my emails keep on arriving even when i am talking on phone.
ya nitin i m on airtel
I had complained to them regarding this bt they said this is a limitation with gprs technology and presently there is no solution
I dont have a prob while i m connected bt i dont recieve calls when downloading data.
by the way which umts u r using
No - the way GPRS is designed, data is bumped off when you get voice call. Those people at Airtel didnot know anything - so you have to keep on pressing. It was more than 1 year back in Delhi. Its called class 10 service (I think - not class b or c as i wrote earlier). That time there were 2 kinds of GPRS - 150rs (which they advertised and was crippled) and a hidden 499rs one. Its all about the number of channels used (sorry - I have not updated myself on 2.5G)
In short - you got to ask them - getting engage tone when you are using data is not service - Airtel is not giving you proper service. Ask softly first - then rudely (thats the only way they listen)
I am in Dubai - using Etisalat UMTS.
I am too with Airtel and that 150 Rs unlimited..using since 2002...In all these days with various cell phones...I found that receiving a call depends on the GPRS signal strength..if it is good...i still can receive tha call..I hv been able to receive a call while d/l from web.
Nitin is right people at Airtel are usless(Gadhe hai sale)
thanx 4 help guys
I now know what to ask for
probably i ll b able to get the full service now
But guys u r damn rite most of the ppl at airtel r idiots they r nt taught anything except talking blah blah
thats wht i love bout this forum nice helpfull ppl everywhere
I have an MDA C3. When web & walk is transferring internet Data and a call comes in, the phone does not ring. It goes directly to the voicemail.
T-Mobile customer service tell me that this is correct as you can either transfer internet data or make a call.
Is that right? I thought that was with WAP which is analagous to dial-up. Surely GPRS is analagous to Broadband.
Anyone else want to try this:
Go to Web & walk home page. Attempt loading up the guardian page (This will take a while). Whilst this is loading, call your phone number and see if it rings or goes direct to VM.
I spend lots of time browsing so I must be losing lots of calls!
Feedback greatly appreciated.
From what I have heard only UMTS devices can support simultaneous voice/data.
Yes - but not GRPS that uses GSM band instead of UMTS.
However, some devices have troubles keeping the data link active when a call comes in.
I am having the same issue (also on T-Mobile UK).
Then IE is running or AS is downloading my mail (I use direct push) all my calls go straight to voicemail.
This is worrying as I just moved over to T-Mobile for the web n walk package to allow me to have instant e-mails. This is a pain if it means I miss calls whilst my mail is downloading.
You'd think that the chances of the 2 coinciding are slim (I don't get a lot of mail, maybe 10 per day) but the wife has already complained 3 times since Friday that she went straight to voicemail, and each time it was exactly as i got a new mail.
Is this a limit of GPRS, the Orbit or just T-Mobile?
Thanks
Dae
I was surprised too... Thats why I posted the query. I thought my phone and/or SIm were faulty. But T-Mobile tell me thats how its supposed to work.
With W&W and Email, Its really hard for someone to get through with a voice call. It was worrying for me as I tend to browse the net whenever I am waiting around. This means that when I am on the bus surfing, no one can get through to me!!
Surely if there is a limitation, then the phone should give precendence to the Voice call. After all, you can pick up your emails or surfing where you left off.
I would really be interested to see if this is a T-Mobile only problem.
No itschase is spot on.
It's not a t-Mobile problem, it's the same for any GSM based network.
Only 3g (UMTS) phones can do data and voice at the same time. No matter what network you are on.
I have just run an experiment in the office as follows:-
Me (artemis with v3 black and blue) - Voicemail when data active
person 1 (MDA compact III - v3 black and blue) - Voicemail when active
person 2 (hermes) - no Voicemail when active.
We are all on t-mobile UK, and therefore it doesn't look like a network issue, but maybe a ROM problem?
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therefore it doesn't look like a network issue, but maybe a ROM problem?
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What problem? Everything is working as it supposed to. If it's so important to you. Go buy a 3g phone!
I now fully appreciate that 3g phones are the only ones to support this type of behaviour.
I was trying to be helpful and post the results of my test as at that point I didn't realise that only 3g phones worked as such. I was lead to believe this by wikipedia:-
"Class B
Can be connected to GPRS service and GSM service (voice, SMS), but using only one or the other at a given time. During GSM service (voice call or SMS), GPRS service is suspended, and then resumed automatically after the GSM service (voice call or SMS) has concluded. Most GPRS mobile devices are Class B. "
Obviously this is not the case.
Bring on the HTC Kaiser!!!
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What problem? Everything is working as it supposed to. If it's so important to you. Go buy a 3g phone!
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I incorrectly assumed that whilst browsing, if a voice call comes in, the phone would give priority to the call.
If I had known what I know now at the time I signed my 18M contract I would have bought a 3g Phone! Its just annoying that i'm stuck with it for another 12M. T-Mobile push the fact that they have set the internet free... but what they fail to get across to everyday users is that its "AT THE EXPENSE OF THE VOICE CALLS"
Because T-Mobile forced you to buy one of their 2.5g phones rather than one of their 3g phones?
I have no problem receiving phone calls while browsing the internet on the P3300.
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I have no problem receiving phone calls while browsing the internet on the P3300.
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Neither have I to be honest, the issue only arises while you are actively downloading data. However once the website has loaded, you are free to accept calls again whilst still looking at the site in the browser.
Gajet said:
Neither have I to be honest, the issue only arises while you are actively downloading data. However once the website has loaded, you are free to accept calls again whilst still looking at the site in the browser.
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As a test I started downloading a dummy 32MB testfile on my P3300 (from speedtest.bbned.nl) and I called my mobile with another phone.
There was no problem; I received the call while downloading the file.
Maybe it depends on the operator? I am in Holland on T-Mobile
daesimps said:
I now fully appreciate that 3g phones are the only ones to support this type of behaviour.
I was trying to be helpful and post the results of my test as at that point I didn't realise that only 3g phones worked as such. I was lead to believe this by wikipedia:-
"Class B
Can be connected to GPRS service and GSM service (voice, SMS), but using only one or the other at a given time. During GSM service (voice call or SMS), GPRS service is suspended, and then resumed automatically after the GSM service (voice call or SMS) has concluded. Most GPRS mobile devices are Class B. "
Obviously this is not the case.
Bring on the HTC Kaiser!!!
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Hi,
It's not enough to have a class A (2G) device, but also DTM (Dual Transfer Mode/Simple Class A) support has to be active in the specific network, otherwise only 3G device on 3G network will provide Class A (simultaneous voice & data).
In fact, there are quite many models from Nokia during last year that support DTM, but as already mentioned, it's not enough.
FYI,
Zohar
cduijker said:
As a test I started downloading a dummy 32MB testfile on my P3300 (from speedtest.bbned.nl) and I called my mobile with another phone.
There was no problem; I received the call while downloading the file.
Maybe it depends on the operator? I am in Holland on T-Mobile
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Is that an EDGE network ?
I got the Artemis with PV Black&Blue v3 ROM.
I can receive calls while pages are loading in IE.
I think this is a provider problem.
The phone provider has to intercept your GPRS connection and establish the GSM connection. Maybe T-Mobile just rejects calls while a GPRS connection/transfer is active.
A1 intercepts the page download and my call comes in.
When I pick up, the GPRS connection is closed completely. (not just pending)
So receiving calls while surfing is no problem for me with Austrian A1 provider.
Any other experiences?
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Is that an EDGE network ?
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no, just gprs; no edge.
cduijker said:
no, just gprs; no edge.
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...then it's no way you'll get simultaneous voice and data (class a).
Hi all,
I haven't seen anyone mention one of the more hyped selling points of the TP2 - the Conference Call feature. Does it work? And more importantly, does it work on your network?
The reason I ask is I am on T-Mobile UK with my Kaiser (and my TP2 when it arrives tomorrow) and I cannot conference two calls together - when I press the conference button, it says "The operation failed". A little research on Google seems to suggest that T-Mo UK are probably the only operator globally who have this functionality disabled.
Will this mean that if the TP2 is ever released through T-Mo retail that it will have this function disabled? Is that why it has been delayed - they are upgrading their network to cope with conference calling?
I'd be interested to know, especially if anyone has already got one on T-Mo UK.
Cheers
Im not sure about T-Mo
However, the option you need is Call Waiting & Call Conferancing; this option usually need to be activated with your telco under VAS (Value Added Service); some may charge to have this function activated
the best you call T Mobile and ask specifically about this function
As I feared, T-Mobile UK don't support conference calling so that feature doesn't work. I phoned CS yesterday to ask, and all I got was "it may be supported in the future".
Actually I found my TyTn II did this yesterday. I put a call on hold and saw an exciting 'conference button' in the Opal dialer. Pushed it and I got some message about not being supported.
I'm on Orange.
UK o2 = No no no.
Pretty pointless feature when the network doesn't support it, I don' think many uk networks do, they have their own conference facitlity. (232 on o2 I think)
T-mobile (ben) Netherlands: Yes, totally works. did it with my old hermes 2 months ago
Vodafone in the Netherlands supports the conference call facility.
A question I have in relation to this subject: does anyone know whether it is possible to have incoming phone calls join in a conference call? Example: I have a call with A on the TP2 and B calls me on the TP2 during that call with A. Can I organize that B will join the same call? If so, how? Is there any maximum of calls that one can have in such a conference call?
Cheers, dela
Telus in Canada does NOT support the feature. BOOOO!
It works on Vodafone Portugal
Vodafone in NZ supports this but only for account customers and by default it's turned off but can be turned on request for free of cost.
DelaVandaag said:
Vodafone in the Netherlands supports the conference call facility.
A question I have in relation to this subject: does anyone know whether it is possible to have incoming phone calls join in a conference call? Example: I have a call with A on the TP2 and B calls me on the TP2 during that call with A. Can I organize that B will join the same call? If so, how? Is there any maximum of calls that one can have in such a conference call?
Cheers, dela
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Yes, you can pick up the incoming phone call and join in a conference call you started (works well with Orange & unbranded TP2).
Oliy said:
Hi all,
I haven't seen anyone mention one of the more hyped selling points of the TP2 - the Conference Call feature. Does it work? And more importantly, does it work on your network?
The reason I ask is I am on T-Mobile UK with my Kaiser (and my TP2 when it arrives tomorrow) and I cannot conference two calls together - when I press the conference button, it says "The operation failed". A little research on Google seems to suggest that T-Mo UK are probably the only operator globally who have this functionality disabled.
Will this mean that if the TP2 is ever released through T-Mo retail that it will have this function disabled? Is that why it has been delayed - they are upgrading their network to cope with conference calling?
I'd be interested to know, especially if anyone has already got one on T-Mo UK.
Cheers
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Your device already has Conference Call capability.
Using Conference Call is a network dependent feature. So, based on what your operator allows you (your phone subscription/plan) - you will be able to use it or not.
BTW, Conf call works great on Orange ...
Hope it helps.
Movistar in Mexico supports it, even on Prepaid, and for free (you just have to pay for both calls)
All Israeli operators (Orange, Cellcom & Pelefone) supports this feature
Mine worked twice on att then stopped, Any ideas why? I used it right when I got the phone then about 2 1/2 weeks ago and it worked great, now when I try I get two people on hold and the other call doesnt come through, and when I try to take the two peopl off hold is says it cant take the call off hold. Do you guys think this is a carrier issue like att not wanting me to use it or a phone/hardware issue?
Works with Vodafone UK
The Conference feature (aka Multiparty) requires a flag in your number's profile in HLR called "MPTY" activated. without that activated, you cannot make a conference call. contact your operator for this.
nfreire said:
It works on Vodafone Portugal
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I've been trying it on TMN-Portugal but no success at all...
credinho said:
I've been trying it on TMN-Portugal but no success at all...
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Actually my operator also have this service, but it wasn't activated in my number. Now it is... but it seems that the other numbers that you are making the conference also need to have this service activated, otherwise it won't work.
i want to know can wifi calling make free international calling... can someone explain to me how it work
cloudi602 said:
i want to know can wifi calling make free international calling... can someone explain to me how it work
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WiFi calling uses a tech called IMS which was helped through development by T-Mobile. It DOES use your anytime minutes and DOES NOT give you free international calling or unlimited minutes, you must already have international and unlimited minutes on your T-Mobile plan. The WiFi calling is just taking your phone off the cellular networks and putting everything possible, internet, calls, and texts through your internet connection, nothing more. If you're looking for international calling via WiFi, you're going to have to find a VoIP service provider that provides unlimited international calling (good luck) and use a softphone (VoIP phone application) in order to get what you're after.
I won't go into detail how to set that up or possible VoIP carriers you can get, that's what Google is for.
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WiFi calling uses a tech called IMS which was helped through development by T-Mobile. It DOES use your anytime minutes and DOES NOT give you free international calling or unlimited minutes, you must already have international and unlimited minutes on your T-Mobile plan. The WiFi calling is just taking your phone off the cellular networks and putting everything possible, internet, calls, and texts through your internet connection, nothing more. If you're looking for international calling via WiFi, you're going to have to find a VoIP service provider that provides unlimited international calling (good luck) and use a softphone (VoIP phone application) in order to get what you're after.
I won't go into detail how to set that up or possible VoIP carriers you can get, that's what Google is for.
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thank you for the quick reply and your right google does the job
Actually, once you sign up on your tmobile account for free wifi calling, the minutes do NOT count toward your monthly minute total.
It's a special option for certain phones, the S4 included. Look under plan add-ons or something like that. It is free to add.
That being said, no, you cannot call from the US internationally for free.
However, you can call internationally, on wifi, to the US, for free.
Hello, I bought an S7A on eBay. I unlocked it with the GSM unlock code provided. Everything works fine, except ... I can't make or receive calls. When I make a call, no ringing tone, and it hangs up 20 seconds later. When someone calls me, the same, then they come across my answering machine.
I'm on the latest version of Oero available, no root or whatever. From what I saw (on GSMArena), the phone uses compatible frequencies in France.
I am at carrier Bouygues Teelcom.
You have any ideas ? Thank you !
PS: I translate from French, please be indulgent!
Same problem, this phone does not work in China
Since then I have understood the real problem: the phone cannot switch from the 4G network to the 2G network for calls on its own.
I don't know how I did it, but now I can make calls without any problem, but switching to 2G is very long (15 s).
I specify that it is impossible to use VoLTE to circumvent this problem.
For receiving calls, the phone does not switch to 2G and the incoming call still fails.
But I can force the 2G network (With the Samsung Band Selection app). And there, incoming calls work, but we only have 2G to surf.
When connected to WIFI, the phone automatically forces the mobile network to 2G, so incoming calls work without the application mentioned before.