Desire custom recovery? - Desire General

I have already rooted my desire with the original root process Paul uploaded (cheers mate!). But could someone please explain to me why we can't have, say, Amon Ra's recovery permanently installed?

Anyone know anything about this??
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From what I understand, there is an extra security measure implemented by HTC, making it impossible (for now) to write to the system and/or recovery partition.. At least in the lines of that..

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Just wondering what Unrevoked is?? :)

Hey,
All im wondering is what http://unrevoked.com/ is?? i know it says easy root but what exactly does it do??
Thanks
it flashes the clockworkmod recovery into your phone and that way you don't need a pc or the shortcuts we were using so far to enter a recovery that enables us to flash new roms etc...and i think this way you can backup your ext partition on sdcard (haven't tried it yet)
Isn't it for the Evo and Sprint Hero only anyway?
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Dave
No if you head over to the www.unrevoked.com/recovery it says its also for the desire ... Has anyone tried this on the desire??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709146
apparently lots of people have
Basically, once you root your handset and you want to try out a new rom you used to have to connect your phone to a pc and push the recovery files to be able to do anything.
Then cloclworkmod recovery was written that allowed the recovery files to be stored and started from the SD card, therefore removing the dependancy on a pc to push the files.
Now this new one, unrevoked, flashes the recovery files directly to the recovery section on your phone. No need for a PC and no dependancy on the files being on the SD card. So now, once you flash this, you simply reboot your phone with the volume button held down. Wait a few seconds then scroll ro 'recovery' with the volume button, then press the power button. This takes you directly to recovery menu that allows you to backup your current rom, flash new roms, wipe your cache etc.
So it doesnt root my phone for me??
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No, you must have root already
lennshow66 said:
So it doesnt root my phone for me??
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NO! You have to be rooted to use it. Rooting is very easy though.
Haha im scared of bricking my phone haha
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lennshow66 said:
Haha im scared of bricking my phone haha
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Lol I was the same, and I did brick my first one. The infamous usb brick. BUT, and it's a big but... That is no longer a problem with the new methods. Even if you did somehow manage to brick it, it can be fixed!
If you read the guides and follow them you will have a nicely rooted phone and any number of custom roms at your disposal. I don't think I could live with a stock desire now
whats the best guide to use?? and whats the difference between stock and rooted rom??
Thanks
The guide on modaco is probably the most recent one to use. it's called risk free root or something.
The difference between stock and rooted is quite big. Stock is just that, what HTC decides to give you. Once you root you can put on any desire rom available in the dev section here. They include experimental roms for froyo, loads of 2.1 roms. 2.1 is what you are on now. The 2.1 roms are tweaked to give better battery life, nicer looks, more features etc. Also on a rooted rom you can use apps like titanium backup which will backup all your apps and their info. Market enabler is an app that allows you to buy apps if you are in a country not yet supported by the market. Setcpu can be used to overclock the processor. Any new updated roms that HTC release will usually be tweaked and availaible to you well before the official release.
These are only a few advantages to using a rooted rom. Have a wee look in the development forum for the desire and see what is available.

Ripping/backing up stock Rom before root

I got a brand new desire phone recently. some how I was lucky enough to get an imported phone with a local licence, how that happened I have no idea.
The thing is I love the current stock Rom I have because it has certain discontinued apps I've been trying to hunt down + the market app which hasn't been licensed in this region yet.
I still want to have root access to my phone. How do I rip the current Rom and root my phone with it? I also want to try and port it over to my old Legend and customize it a bit.
I would also be happy to provide it publicly here or on the shipped roms website if I'm successful. The phone is unbranded and unlocked so there should be no legal issues with HTC or network carriers.
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You can't backup BEFORE rooting but you can AFTER - once you've got your custom recovery on the handset you can use it to perform a backup of your phone as it is onto the SD card so should anything go wrong you can just restore it.
However, you might wanna look at the app I've attached to this reply - it can be used to backup apps to your SD card and doesn't need root. That way you can always reinstall them on newer ROM versions that don't have it
(To install it, extract the file from the ZIP and copy it to your sd card...then open a file manager and install using that)
Thanks, I'll give that app a try. But still there must be some kind of way to rip an image of the Rom? I'm going to need the image as backup and I want port that Rom over to the Legend if possible.
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Without root you simply can't do it as you don't have access to the /system partition
ok i'm a bit confused now, doesn't the root process already include flashing a custom ROM? so if i root the phone so i can access my stock ROM i'm gonna lose it either way becase of the rooting?
if thats the case then how do stock roms even exist publicly? sort of like which came first, the chicken or the egg?
i might be wrong but this is what i understood from the UnrEVOked rooting tutorials i read
Rooting doesnt involve a flash now, so once rooted u can backup the stock, rooted ROM. Then u can flash a custom ROM
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This applies to unrEVOked too right?
Thank you so much for bearing with me
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Yes. If u root using unrEVOked it only roots the phone. U can then do a nandroid backup before flashing a new ROM
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EddyOS said:
Yes. If u root using unrEVOked it only roots the phone. U can then do a nandroid backup before flashing a new ROM
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Unrevoked dose flash
It flashes a recovery image
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But it doesn't flash a new ROM so you can back up your existing one before flashing a new one
just to make sure i've been going through some tutorials again and they eventually led me to rootmydroid.com where i asked them about this issue. i got this answer:
"unrEVOked flashes a custom recovery image that is different from the stock one.
If you don’t want this maybe you should try VISIONary (google it)"
I did google VISIONary and it seems to be an app you can install on your phone and root it right on the spot, however going through the comments it doesn't seem to work on the Desire. I'm gonna test it myself on both the Desire and Legend and see if it works. i'll post back here with the results. if i got it working and managed to rip the rom i'll write a guide, i know its simple but it took me quite some searching and reading to get to this point.
VISIONary is an app developed by Paul/Modaco if anyone is wondering
A lot easier to just use unrEVOked - VISIONary was developed for the Desire HD
VISONary worked like a charm for the Legend, MUCH easier than the complex tutorial over at the Legend forums, but the downside is i have to work harder to get a backup whereas if I had rooted using other methods a recovery tool like nandroid would've been automatically installed. now although its rooted i'm still searching for a way to backup the legend.
VISIONary doesn't support the Desire so unrEVOked is the only way to go.
also i seem to have gotten 2 things confused: Recovery and ROM. after quite some reading let me see if i've got down the differences right.
when you say unrEVOked flashes a custom recovery it means it changes the default recovery mode to a custom one like say NANDroid or AmonRA which gives you the option to back up your ROM, correct? the ROM is an image of the OS itself which you can backup/restore with a recovery.
confusing those two made me run around in circles for a while but thanks to that i've learned quite a lot. I'm gonna try unrEVOked on my Desire and search for a way to backup the Legend, i'll ask around on the Legend forum and see where that goes.
i'll post back my results with the Desire here.
thanks Eddy

Looking to root friends desire - unrevoked...

Hi, i've been looking around to help my friend with his new desire,
I would like to see if this works, according to my research...
If I ran the phone through unrevoked, would this root the phone?
And in turn, let us install rom manager + clockwork mod?
I don't have much experience around here as I am still looking about rooting my nexus
Hope you can help
Details needed.
Bootloader info, phone info...
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I'm gonna have to ask about the bootloader info, but it is currently running stock (latest) which I think is 2.2?
EDIT: How do you get into the bootloader? Is it power+ volume down?
Yes.
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If its running 2.2, chances are very high that you can root it with unrevoked. Make sure the hBOOT version is 0.93.xxxx
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If its the same as mine, yes unrevoked will do. However, i was having issues with CwM before so now im using amon ra recovery.just a heads up
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Ye, thats right, I just found out that it is 0.93
So my plan on my original post will work?
EDIT: Do we need S-off? And how does this affect the phone?
Warmo161 said:
Ye, thats right, I just found out that it is 0.93
So my plan on my original post will work?
EDIT: Do we need S-off? And how does this affect the phone?
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use google and find out.... or just follow one of the many noob guides
A noob guide would of answered all of your questions
Warmo161 said:
Ye, thats right, I just found out that it is 0.93
So my plan on my original post will work?
EDIT: Do we need S-off? And how does this affect the phone?
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It will work. As long as the drivers required are properly installed. And you don't need s-off unless you are planning to change the boot partitions (eg. Change from Stock hBOOT to CM7r2 hBOOT to get more space for apps)
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If your still not 100% sure I don't think you should even try rooting your friends phone. You'll need the htc usb drivers installed on pc, make sure the htc sync apps is not installed.
Use unrevoked to root and install cwm recovery, from there you can install any of the great roms.
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Please read the rooting faq in my signature. There's also a guide there which incorporates pre requisite information which (for some unknown reason) is missing from most other guides.
But read the faq too. It's not about blindly following steps. It's about understanding the process and what you are doing.
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stuck in an "in between" situation

Hello,
my first phone is the HTC Desire Z... and i've never worked on any cellphone other than this one.
today, i was given an HTC Desire, that was giving su permissions, and it is S-ON (kinda weird)
now i don't know what is the process of perm rooting it and S-OFF it, but what i did to get to this situation was a backup restore of a sense 2 with android 2.2 froyo...
what i want to do is S-OFF it and have it run CM7... flashing roms is my thing, but what should i do to make it S-OFF?
thanks
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i didn't mean to mock you or to offend you in any kind of way
S-Off and rooted are two different things. You can flash CM7 while rooted and S-On.
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rete said:
S-Off and rooted are two different things. You can flash CM7 while rooted and S-On.
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thank you!!!
but in addition i would like it to be S-OFF, how can i do that?
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i didn't mean to mock you or to offend you in any kind of way
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/503471-desire-all-things-root-guide.html
Have a look at the stickies in the Desire Android Development forum here at XDA, everything you need is there. Like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805811
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well, revolutionary failed
so now i'm just gonna flash CM7... is MildWild V4.3 good?
and what's the point of S-OFF if you can still flash stuff? the phone has cwm recovery, and can flash fine... so i'm fine
S-on just stops us from messing with the system partition whilst Android is running.
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Did you try Alpharev (flash a rooted stock Sense ROM first)?
alpharev.nl/
The main benefit of going S-Off is that you can flash a new Hboot with more space for apps on (fast) nand memory. Standard Desire has less than 150 mb available on nand for apps, if you flash CM7 r2 for example you will have almost 290mb for apps. Of course, you have to pick your ROMs carefully so they fit on the phone once you flash a custom Hboot.
If you stick with stock S-On you will need a high quality fast micro sd card (for moving apps on to).
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i'm using the CD methode (my bandwidth doesn't support the VM methodes)
how much time should i wait for this to finish? (pic below)
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i didn't mean to mock you or to offend you in any kind of way
It's been a long time since I s-offed my Desire. The CD procedure is the same as this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cw9xkS20i0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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@rete, that's exactly what i'm trying to do, and it just hangs at the 3rd step, in the video step3 took a minute, i waited about half an hour
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Riro Zizo said:
well, revolutionary failed
so now i'm just gonna flash CM7... is MildWild V4.3 good?
and what's the point of S-OFF if you can still flash stuff? the phone has cwm recovery, and can flash fine... so i'm fine
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Flash 2.3 gb ruu from HTCdev, then run revolutionary, cuz it works perfectly after that.......the ruu will upgrade your hboot required by revolutionary......
Regards
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[Q] Need help about Android ROM and sense

Hi...!!
i'm the new user on this site.i see many threads that they were well answered and very helpful
i get htc desire ,before this i was using IPHONE.
i want to know about ROM ,Sense,Root ,unroot and upgrading tech,and Recovery .
these are the things that i read in many threads but have no knowledge about these thing.
please help me in good manners.
Hopeful for getting good responce..
Thanks....!!
If you want to root your phone, you need to make your kernel insecure. There are many ways to do so, Google it. Then you need to root it, the same procedure.
After that, download clockwork mod and install it's bootloader (from inside the app)
Then go online, download leedroid rom and install it after placing in your phone's root with bootloader. (volume down + power) when off.
Then after installation restart phone in bootloader and do something called ext3 in bootloader menu. That will allow you to install all apps in sd card, fooling the phone to think that apps are installed in phone memory. It's necessary due to little space desire has.
Newbie to newbie
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Ps
Leedroid has sense, and is fast. Other Roms have no sense or are pretty slow or have issues with some things . I know, I tried most of them
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Lol not sure bout the above post, confused the sh1te outa me.. read the Desire all things root guide in my sig, theres guides and TUTs there, everything u need.
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I'll try better next time
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What is 4ext recovery..???
whats it benifit......??
what is the difference b/w 4ext recovery and clock recovery...??
can anyone differentiat it.????
roni321 said:
What is 4ext recovery..???
whats it benifit......??
what is the difference b/w 4ext recovery and clock recovery...??
can anyone differentiat it.????
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When ur s-off & rooted u need a recovery so that u can install custom roms, perform a full wipe, system, data, cache etc etc. Like posted above, u will need to make an ext3/ext4 partition on ur sdcard for a app2sd script, whatever rom u choose, the OP will state install requirments. 4ext recovery is recommended over clockworkmod because it can partition ur sdcard perfect and has way more features and is just better in every way.
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roni321 said:
What is 4ext recovery..???
whats it benifit......??
what is the difference b/w 4ext recovery and clock recovery...??
can anyone differentiat it.????
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Use this: http://bit.ly/YtMd5A
is it possible to install 3.0 on HTC DESIRE????
it will work good??
what is the difference in 2.3.3 and 3.0.....??
actually am new with android ,so please provide me help via screen shots and links for ROM.
Thanks..
Everything you need to know is on the forum, use search.
If it's not here, google it.
List of ROM's: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328

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