I got my new phone, now i find out that it doesnt wana use 3g connection. Before i had HTC HD, and it connected to 3g even with only 2 dots of 3g signal. Now my desire on same network constantly jumps from 3g to hdspa , even if it shows 2 or more dots of signal. My friend has HTC Legend and it has the same symptoms. Basicly it shows 3G, but when i activate any app that uses internet it switches to lower speed. Does anyone knows what would be the cause of this behavior? Or how to force phone to use 3g even if signal quality is low?
ivicask said:
I got my new phone, now i find out that it doesnt wana use 3g connection. Before i had HTC HD, and it connected to 3g even with only 2 dots of 3g signal. Now my desire on same network constantly jumps from 3g to hdspa , even if it shows 2 or more dots of signal. My friend has HTC Legend and it has the same symptoms. Basicly it shows 3G, but when i activate any app that uses internet it switches to lower speed. Does anyone knows what would be the cause of this behavior? Or how to force phone to use 3g even if signal quality is low?
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Is Hdspa not a faster version of 3g... Gprs is a slower speed. I always have my Desire switch to H when i browse the internet...
Johan
No its not, i got about 512kbs per sec on 3G with only 2 dots of signal . And now im getting top 150 kbs on full signal hdspa..
ivicask said:
No its not, i got about 512kbs per sec on 3G with only 2 dots of signal . And now im getting top 150 kbs on full signal hdspa..
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Speeds
The following table compares the theoretical speeds available for these three technologies:
EDGE 3G HSDPA
Maximum download 236 Kbps 384 Kbps 1.8 Mbps
Maximum upload Approximately 100 Kbps 64 Kbps 384 Kbps
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Sitting at my desk in central London, I get 4-5 bars of gprs signal only, no 3g whatsoever. If I set it to "WCDMA only" in settings then it will sit without a signal all day.
I put my SIM back in my old phone (HTC HD) and it gets 5 bars of HSDPA at around 3mbps in the exact same location. If the signal is so good why can't the desire even detect it?
Same story at my house, old HD gets 4-5 bars of H while the desire fluctuates between 1 bar of H and 5 bars of gprs.
Do I have a faulty unit or is just the limitations of the desire's radio hardware?
Does anyone on O2 in London get a decent signal comparable with their old phone?
dickson123 said:
Sitting at my desk in central London, I get 4-5 bars of gprs signal only, no 3g whatsoever. If I set it to "WCDMA only" in settings then it will sit without a signal all day.
I put my SIM back in my old phone (HTC HD) and it gets 5 bars of HSDPA at around 3mbps in the exact same location. If the signal is so good why can't the desire even detect it?
Same story at my house, old HD gets 4-5 bars of H while the desire fluctuates between 1 bar of H and 5 bars of gprs.
Do I have a faulty unit or is just the limitations of the desire's radio hardware?
Does anyone on O2 in London get a decent signal comparable with their old phone?
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im on tmobile and im my expericence its the other way round, when i had my old hd, id struggle to get 1 bar hsdpa but on my desire i get 2 or 3 bars all the time, maybe u should try a new radio
AndroHero said:
im on tmobile and im my expericence its the other way round, when i had my old hd, id struggle to get 1 bar hsdpa but on my desire i get 2 or 3 bars all the time, maybe u should try a new radio
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Wasn't aware there was a newer radio, I've had the 1.21 OTA update which I thought contained a radio update as well. I used to flash different radios on the old HD but it never made such a drastic difference as either 5 bars of 'H' or not even detecting the 3g network at all.
2K/bytes download speed on T-Mobile UK
Using the speedtest.net app I'm only receiving 2 K/bytes download speed and an impressive 134 K/bytes upload.
There is nothing in the background using the Internet
Full signal strength/bars
APNs correctly setup on device (general.t-mobile.uk, username: t-mobile, pass: tm)
Have free 3GB Internet Booster on the account
Content filter removed
Capped data rate removed
Connecting by WiFi at home receives 1174.2 K/bytes down, 137.2 K/bytes up
I'm absolutely lost at what could be the fault. Called T-Mobile mobile tech support team and they say there's nothing wrong with my account or known issues with my area code, and my signal strength is top.
Sometimes I get 40 K/bytes max (very rare but possible)
Any ideas?
garreh said:
Using the speedtest.net app I'm only receiving 2 K/bytes download speed and an impressive 134 K/bytes upload.
There is nothing in the background using the Internet
Full signal strength/bars
APNs correctly setup on device (general.t-mobile.uk, username: t-mobile, pass: tm)
Have free 3GB Internet Booster on the account
Content filter removed
Capped data rate removed
Connecting by WiFi at home receives 1174.2 K/bytes down, 137.2 K/bytes up
I'm absolutely lost at what could be the fault. Called T-Mobile mobile tech support team and they say there's nothing wrong with my account or known issues with my area code, and my signal strength is top.
Sometimes I get 40 K/bytes max (very rare but possible)
Any ideas?
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Test your SIM in another phone and see if that makes a difference.
If it doesnt then do 5 speed tests throughout the day noting the time and results and the postcode your in and call tech support and ask them to escalate it to the network guys
I've just tested my connection and got 247kbps download and 121kbps upload.
That's using the same app on T-Mobile, and I don't live in a city (though the speed results when I had my G1 were worse when I went into Newcastle).
Have you tried the speed test when your phone is closer to a different broadcast tower? That would be the easiest way to tell if it's your phone or the local network.
Thanks for your comments guys. I've just run the speed test at my work location in Slough (inside the office, much slower... I'm guessing because of the thick brick walls and loads amount of local networks and electrical equippment around)
Down: ranging from 76 to 133.7 KB/s
Up: ranging from 54 to 57.9 KB/s
Signal strength: poor (1 to 2 bars) ranging from -99db to -105, 7 to 3 asu
So it's faster at work with only 1 bar, how does that work?
I also tested it this morning in my home area (where I'm having the problems) and again it's 1-2 KB/s download speed but fast upload with full bars.
Checking this morning I'm getting 600kbps down/450kbps up on T-Mobile, 2 bars HSDPA.
This is quite low for my download speed, as I'm often getting 1.5mbps+.
If you are getting a problem in a specific location, chances are it is the cell tower.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
This is quite low for my download speed, as I'm often getting 1.5mbps+. If you are getting a problem in a specific location, chances are it is the cell tower.
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I honestly don't know how you're getting those speeds. Top speed I've seen on my HTC Desire on T-Mobile is 150 KB/s
garreh said:
I honestly don't know how you're getting those speeds. Top speed I've seen on my HTC Desire on T-Mobile is 150 KB/s
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It should be very achievable as long as you are connected to a cell via HSDPA, and the cell has sufficient capacity. Bear in mind that cell congestion can cause your speed to vary wildly during the day.
I presume that you have an H on your phone when you are testing?
Regards,
Dave
garreh said:
Thanks for your comments guys. I've just run the speed test at my work location in Slough (inside the office, much slower... I'm guessing because of the thick brick walls and loads amount of local networks and electrical equippment around)
Down: ranging from 76 to 133.7 KB/s
Up: ranging from 54 to 57.9 KB/s
Signal strength: poor (1 to 2 bars) ranging from -99db to -105, 7 to 3 asu
So it's faster at work with only 1 bar, how does that work?
I also tested it this morning in my home area (where I'm having the problems) and again it's 1-2 KB/s download speed but fast upload with full bars.
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Looks like there is an issue on your home transmitter do what I said with the speed tests at intervals and get them to escalate it
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My handset shows the HSDPA symbol. Even during non-peak hrs like 3am it's still slow. Occasionally it spikes up to as high as 40KB/s but 9 times out of 10 its no faster than 2KB. Tried the sim in a friends HTC Hero and get the same result, if not around 30% slower (expected as this is a slower device than my Desire)
Just tried it on my phone and got a d/l of 1045 and u/l of 489. This is a bit slower than I normally get as I have full reception although it has thrown up a bit of a teaser as when I did the wifi speed check I was only getting 1.8 mbs where I am normally nearer 6 mbs
I was wondering what other peoples 3G speeds are? It's unbearably slow for me here in Seattle, on speed test app on 4G lte i get around 11,000 kbps. But on 3G i'm only getting like 84 kbps. is this usual?
True2TheGame said:
I was wondering what other peoples 3G speeds are? It's unbearably slow for me here in Seattle, on speed test app on 4G lte i get around 11,000 kbps. But on 3G i'm only getting like 84 kbps. is this usual?
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That doesn't sound like you're connecting to 3G, more like 1x. There's an app called "network info II" that will tell you what type of network it's using. It should show it as EVDO if you are on 3G
No 4G here where i live so i stay on 3G and even then since im at home 90% of the time, I stay on wifi.
I went out of town today to Tallahassee FL where they have 4G and really wasnt impressed with the speeds.
Maybe im spoiled by wifi or maybe it was just a bad day for the network being they were having LTE outages all day today
hello, I was just wondering if there was any app that will allow me to turn off hspa+ on my GSM galaxy nexus? I prefer using 3G only
thank you
anyone?
10 char
haven't seen this anywhere except on original samsung galaxy S, where dialling in a code allowed you to change the data connection speed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837716
seems you can only choose either 2G or 3G/HSDPA data but not specify one.
Hspa+ is 3G.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
@rbiter said:
Hspa+ is 3G.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
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HSPA+ is 3.5G
Lol. I know that but for all intents and purposes, who is going to weed out UMTS and hspa and hspa+ just so you can have UMTS only? It's 3G no matter how you slice and dice it.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
in an area of low signal, you're going to spend more power trying to have a stable "H" connection rather than "3G". Back in the SGS1 days i remember it did actually have a little but noticeable effect on battery.
if you watch careful, when you have a low "H" signal it will once in a while drop back to 3G...3G is way better than Edge or GPRS but not as fast as HSDPA which goes to 20+ mbps, whereas 3G AFAIK hovers around 700-800kbps.
zerozoneice said:
in an area of low signal, you're going to spend more power trying to have a stable "H" connection rather than "3G". Back in the SGS1 days i remember it did actually have a little but noticeable effect on battery.
if you watch careful, when you have a low "H" signal it will once in a while drop back to 3G...3G is way better than Edge or GPRS but not as fast as HSDPA which goes to 20+ mbps, whereas 3G AFAIK hovers around 700-800kbps.
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3g / umts limit is 384 kbps. I'm having a hard time seeing tgere would be any difference in power drain in terms of low signal seeing as its the same exact air interface (wcdma) for all of them.
Its like saying wifi b drains less power than wifi g in low signal. If its true someone would have to explain cause i dont understand how it could be...
RogerPodacter said:
3g / umts limit is 384 kbps. I'm having a hard time seeing tgere would be any difference in power drain in terms of low signal seeing as its the same exact air interface (wcdma) for all of them.
Its like saying wifi b drains less power than wifi g in low signal. If its true someone would have to explain cause i dont understand how it could be...
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yea 384kbps.
dunno the exact reason but i know it had results at least on stock SGS roms...couple of %, not much...but something.
probably radio uses more power to keep a good (faster H) connection in a low signal area before giving up and falling back on 3G.
Is it normal for the HTC Wildfire S to have slow data speeds or could it be because of my area? I rarely get speeds much above 2Mbps. The data speed I get on 3 UK is around 1.4Mbps average and the connection keeps dropping. I get almost full signal so that shouldn't be the cause. The speed often goes really slow at peak times. Does anyone else have speeds this slow or are they much faster?
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vpwrf said:
Is it normal for the HTC Wildfire S to have slow data speeds or could it be because of my area? I rarely get speeds much above 2Mbps. The data speed I get on 3 UK is around 1.4Mbps average and the connection keeps dropping. I get almost full signal so that shouldn't be the cause. The speed often goes really slow at peak times. Does anyone else have speeds this slow or are they much faster?
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What is your connection now? 3G or GPRS,
In options tried to select Inalambric Conections, the mobile data or similar and be sure that "Only use 2G nets" are disabled, if it isn't disabled it can be a solutiion...
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I have the Network Mode on WCDMA only. I get slow download speeds most of the time even though it's showing the H symbol and doesn't matter what network I use. Is there a trick for getting faster data speeds by editing the build.prop file or something?
In many areas Three doesn't provide a GSM service, and in others it is out-sourced to Orange's network. Even though you may be connected to their HSDPA (WCDMA) service the speed is entirely dependant on the signal level. The speed is also dependant on the time of day, obviously the network is going to be more congested during peak times.
I usually get a download speed of around 350kB/s (2.8Mbps).
To be honest your speed doesn't sound that bad, and if you want a much faster experience you're going to have to get a phone that supports HSPA+.
The speeds I now get are always absolutely rubbish. I nearly always get below 0.5Mbps on Orange. 3 aren't much better. Below 1Mbps most of the time.