I have done a quick couple of searches and there we no thread titles that led to this type of information for me. Basically, I have been flashing my 8525 and TyTN perfectly with my XP Pro notebook but HP is replacing it with a brand new laptop that will run Vista Business (or Ultimate...not sure yet). I am concerned that I will soon have trouble flashing my phones.
What do I need to do to prepare my new system to be capable of doing this? I use my phone more than my computer so it is pretty important to me to be able to fix any issues I am having on it...I am just not that great with the computer.
I searched most under "Vista" and was not finding much that answered my question(s). Sorry if this is an annoying post but I am not much of a pro. at this like some of you guys are. Thanks for any help you can give...even if just pointing me in the right direction.
do a search for vistaruu....its pretty easy follow the instructions.
Also, if you check out the wiki and/or MrVanx's guides, they guide you through the Vista transition. Of course, this will only fix the problems with flashing - all the other **** Vista causes, you're on your own
www.MrVanx.org
When you refer to the other sh-- that Vista causes, are you referring to anything related to flashing the phone, or just annoyances issues with Vista itself? I didn't really want Vista since I have my laptop setup just like I like it, even though it is almost 3 years old, and it is quite fast enough and has every option I can see myself using for a long time. However, HP broke my DVD drive during a repair as well as not really solving a charging issue so they have decided to replace it with a pretty much top-end computer (from what they offer). I am going to hope that if I don't like Vista I can put XP Pro on it...if not, oh well...free is free!
Thanks for the pointers...I definitely need the help. Now to find out how to get files from this computer to that one when it gets here...hopefully I don't have to go and buy anything more again.
New RUU works with Vista
There's a new RUU, the one that the Dash WM 6.0 upgrade uses, that works perfectly with Vista. I flashed 4 Dash's already and zero problems, and no mucking around with drivers.
Hopeful we can port that to the new ROMs coming out, so I can retire my XP box. I don't like the idea of flipping USB drivers just to flash my device.
pinhead said:
When you refer to the other sh-- that Vista causes, are you referring to anything related to flashing the phone, or just annoyances issues with Vista itself? I didn't really want Vista since I have my laptop setup just like I like it, even though it is almost 3 years old, and it is quite fast enough and has every option I can see myself using for a long time. However, HP broke my DVD drive during a repair as well as not really solving a charging issue so they have decided to replace it with a pretty much top-end computer (from what they offer). I am going to hope that if I don't like Vista I can put XP Pro on it...if not, oh well...free is free!
Thanks for the pointers...I definitely need the help. Now to find out how to get files from this computer to that one when it gets here...hopefully I don't have to go and buy anything more again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Vista is fine for flashing but you have to do some reading. A lot of individuals are flashing using vista. You should search for "ruu vista" and read through the treads while you are waiting for the new shiny computer. I have been flashing with vista since around the RC release of vista.
Good luck with the new computer and flashing with vista.
pinhead said:
When you refer to the other sh-- that Vista causes, are you referring to anything related to flashing the phone, or just annoyances issues with Vista itself?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I was talking about all the other stuff, not flashing. So many users were unhappy about being forced to migrate to Vista, that Dell was offering optional free "downgrade" certificates to XP for people who bought machines pre-loaded with Vista
I just bought a Vista laptop over the weekend. I used mrvanx's guide to flashing, and flashed Black 3.0 with Vista this morning. It worked like a charm!
URPREY said:
I just bought a Vista laptop over the weekend. I used mrvanx's guide to flashing, and flashed Black 3.0 with Vista this morning. It worked like a charm!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, a little bit of reading always help and I am glad you got it working the very first time you tried it. Congrats!!!!
Awesome guys! This is really great news. When it comes to computers I'm pretty much an email, web browsing, and MS Office kind of user. That's pretty much it aside from sometimes messing with Google Earth or something of that sort.
pinhead said:
Awesome guys! This is really great news. When it comes to computers I'm pretty much an email, web browsing, and MS Office kind of user. That's pretty much it aside from sometimes messing with Google Earth or something of that sort.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In that case be sure to read carefully and think about what you are going to do. If you think you can't spend a few hours to resolve any issues after you are done with it, then don't do it. Wait until you can devote the time because you never know when you are going to bricked your device.
I just want it to run at 600mhz+ for speed.
I don't mind the use of the battery for I have it on the charger most of the day.
Thanks!
Got mine to 1ghz but it burnted up.
kimtyson said:
Got mine to 1ghz but it burnted up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OH NO!!!! That sucks. What program were you using to overclock?
I think it was called superduperspeedycpuclocker. Lol.
To the OP. I doubt that you will notice the jump from stock 528 to 600mhz anyway.
Isn't it time to close this thread???
Yeah, awhile back no2chem figured out how to get the MSM7xxx running at 768MHz, but it's incredibly unstable and most devices immediately restart or freeze, or it won't work at all. If you really want to try it out, check out this link, and while you're at it, I would also read this, this, this, and this.
Very very thankyou ppls for your hard work... i really appreciate the hard work of the devs.. but can some1 tell me that when the battery metter is fixing.....i only bought this to use android on it but due to unstable battery indcator i m not able to properly get the fun of android on this device.....seriously i have no intrest to use winmo..i liked the keyboard and read that its android compatiable so i bought it .... i know some ppls will say that go buy something else ..... all i need is battery fix and i think many of the ppls here will agree with me....well i for me i m w8ing more 15 days to see if the proper battery fix appears then i will continue it else i will go for Motorola Milestone...i m not saying that these ppls are not working .. all i m saying that all we need is a battery fix with Wifi
w8ing for the ppls opinions
Thanks
honestly man, whats the point of this post? The devs know whats working and what isn't and I'm sure they're working on fixing and improving things. The fact that you can even boot up and run Android on a Windows Mobile phone shows the dedication and work they've put into this so far, its just a matter of work and time until everything is working, have faith and wait it out
dont be surprised if u start gettin some negative responses.
first off, the battery fix wrks great and is very accurate. there must b something u not doing right. i even posted my initial battery readings in the thread with this new build. actually the battery fix is almost dead accurate. i got 8+ hrs. outta of it yesterday. with overclock, with constant use. so nonoverclocked build will probaly bring even longer use.
second, wifi wrks perfectly.
third, why would u buy a device just to run a project build then if u wanted everything wrking? i understand the keyboard thing but unless u got ur device on a good ass deal, kind of silly to buy it just to run something not even fully completed yet. come on now.
Fourth, b4 u bought ur device, did u thoroughly read everything going on with this build or u just jumped in head first?
this is why so many people getting flamed cuz they dont do the research or homework. then come on here posting about why this or that isnt wrking. or what ASSUMPTIONS they have.
dont take this post the wrong way cuz this will probaly be one of the nicer posts towards u. lmfao juss way too many people jumping in and complaining when they wouldve already known the known issues with the build. which in ur case is incorrect. there has to be something u did wrong.
these are questions to ask self why batter fix and wifi not wrking for u.
Am i using the latest builds? Did i thoroughly follow instructions on installing it? Did i install the build with the battery fix in it? Did I break my battery fix by updating the zImage and modules?(which will break the battery fix). if thats not the case, then, Did i update the latest roofts and inirtd files? Did i even troubleshoot the problems b4 posting saying they dont wrk? lol
im not trying to sound like a dckhead..lmfao but im sure the developers would say the same thing basically.
they might have to implement what they doing on the other threads now. if u dont have a certain number of posts, then dont download and try out builds with doing the research first. a moderator stepped in and said that. cuz way too many people complaining about stuff thats already known or complaining about stuff that wrks but they didnt do it correctly.
food for thought, try the latest build. then DO NOT UPDATE THE ZIMAGE AND MODULES AFTERWARDS. only update the roofts and inirtd files.
if u need help getting it running right, let me know. ill be more thn happy to help or assist u, seriously. srry to sound cranky, just woke up n stressed about other things in life..lol
good luck
jamb said:
... all i need is battery fix and i think many of the ppls here will agree with me....well i for me i m w8ing more 15 days to see if the proper battery fix appears then i will continue it else i will go for Motorola Milestone...i m not saying that these ppls are not working .. all i m saying that all we need is a battery fix with Wifi
w8ing for the ppls opinions
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What the hell is the point of this post? Can we lock this thread, please?
@demandarin
1st i was prepaired for the negative response..
2nd... right now i m testing the new 2.2 froyo beta build as stock no overclocked no thing just extract to mc... and testing while calling / messing with it...very much stable rather then old builds :d.....very much stable /nice reponse / no battery warming(which i was worried of) / no force close atleast now.. / played assassin creed and many thing works preety nice.. wel right now i have'nt use wifi or data roaming /
3rd..well i got 2 options 1 was TP2 and 2nd was Motorola milestone ... well i dont like to milestone keyboard but i forgot that it was way slimmer then tp2 / also compatiable with new builds by defualt...well i was tp2 in local market then came to xda and saw the thread about android and just go for it.. as seeing the progress i thought that it will be fixed soon...now i cant tolarate windows-mo anymore just want to go to the android again asap...so i started this thread...
4th well i readed all the faqs / tips everything before buying tp2...like 50%
well its cool , its nice to get a proper postive feedback from a geek :d wel i will defenately ask for help from u if i came across with anything which i will not able to understand..
Thankyou
jsmith8858 said:
What the hell is the point of this post? Can we lock this thread, please?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the point of this post is to know about battery fix.. because i think its damaging the battery...because while turing on the android the led indicator turns on and battery start heating-up sorry dont sound to be rude but please if u cant help dont bother to post you will waste your time...
Would you all kindly stop being illiterate? English words are made of letters not numbers.
On topic, jamb, you could have dropped the silly threats (Imma buy another phone) and just asked the question.
Considering this phone wasn't intended to even run android..... and you bought it without clearly reading through and seeing what was working and what wasn't... yeah I can see peoples frustrations with your question.
Your best bet, as I'm sure you know, if you wanted a perfectly working andoid phone was to buy one that was designed for it OR at least play with someones touch pro 2 who has android running on it so you would know what to expect.
It's called development for a reason, its still on going and there is still a LOT of work to be done and no one knows time frames on this. It's like asking when we're going to mars (all be it that might be a very dramatic example)
Regarding the battery. As was discussed... there is a fix and if it isn't working for you then you aren't doing something right. It's accurate and thats all anyone can hope for. As far as becoming warm. Well it probably has something to do with what you are using on your phone. Internet, GPS, etc etc... all at once. overclocking it is a big culprit for the warmness of phones. The more you tax the phone the more it will become warm.
It wont 'ruin' your batter by using the phone... Just be patient and understand that these fixes could come out tomorrow or could never come! Just what it is.
Considering this phone wasn't intended to even run android..... and you bought it without clearly reading through and seeing what was working and what wasn't... yeah I can see peoples frustrations with your question.
Your title isn't so much directed at andoid as it is the people who spend hours and hours and hours developing a working version for our phone. So, yes it can be taken as being insulting, with that people are going to see this post and think "who is this guy?"
Your best bet, as I'm sure you know, if you wanted a perfectly working andoid phone was to buy one that was designed for it OR at least play with someones touch pro 2 who has android running on it so you would know what to expect.
It's called development for a reason, its still on going and there is still a LOT of work to be done and no one knows time frames on this. It's like asking when we're going to mars (all be it that might be a very dramatic example)
Regarding the battery. As was discussed... there is a fix and if it isn't working for you then you aren't doing something right. It's accurate and thats all anyone can hope for. As far as becoming warm. Well it probably has something to do with what you are using on your phone. Internet, GPS, etc etc... all at once. overclocking it is a big culprit for the warmness of phones. The more you tax the phone the more it will become warm.
It wont 'ruin' your batter by using the phone... Just be patient and understand that these fixes could come out tomorrow or could never come! Just what it is.
My battery meter seems to be working just dandy. I did a test yesterday and it was dead on. When in Android I looked at the battery meter and it was about 3/4 full. I opened spare parts and it was at 64%. I then rebooted the phone into WM (6.5, energy ROM) and opened tbattery and it was at 64%
I chared my phone to 100% yester afternoon around 5pm and after heavy use; 5 minutes twitter updates, constant facebook, automaticl gmail check, and non-stop text, I'm still sitting around 50%.
The work they are doing is awesome.
Sent from my MSM using XDA App
Any battery meter needs to have several complete charge/recharge cycles to be completely accurate (charge phone to 100%, drain until it powers off by itself, repeat at least 3 times). So I would think Android on the TP2 is no different.
Anyway, if the OP got the message that the TP2 is "Andriod compatible", that that was the wrong impression, or at least an overstatement. This is an ongoing project. Given, one where some great folks are putting in tons of work and doing a wonderful job (and much appreciated). But its not perfect, and not the same as a phone which natively runs Android. If that was the OPs intent, then big mistake and he should have done more research before buying.
And its always been posted that the battery meter has issues. I don't know how he could puurchase a TP2 for android and didn't even read the 1st post of the thread.
Sent from my MSM using XDA App
Anyone tried buying those larger batteries off ebay? I saw one that's lager but isn't larger in size where you'd need a new back case.
How much difference is 1800mAh compared to 1500mAh anyway? Another hour of life?
Aaron McCarthy said:
Considering this phone wasn't intended to even run android..... and you bought it without clearly reading through and seeing what was working and what wasn't... yeah I can see peoples frustrations with your question.
Your best bet, as I'm sure you know, if you wanted a perfectly working andoid phone was to buy one that was designed for it OR at least play with someones touch pro 2 who has android running on it so you would know what to expect.
It's called development for a reason, its still on going and there is still a LOT of work to be done and no one knows time frames on this. It's like asking when we're going to mars (all be it that might be a very dramatic example)
Regarding the battery. As was discussed... there is a fix and if it isn't working for you then you aren't doing something right. It's accurate and thats all anyone can hope for. As far as becoming warm. Well it probably has something to do with what you are using on your phone. Internet, GPS, etc etc... all at once. overclocking it is a big culprit for the warmness of phones. The more you tax the phone the more it will become warm.
It wont 'ruin' your batter by using the phone... Just be patient and understand that these fixes could come out tomorrow or could never come! Just what it is.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1st well i completely readed the faqs that which things was working and which r not ..when i was going to buy new fone i was damn excited that the great devs make it happen to run android on TP2 and because i liked the keyboard and android compatible i thought that battery fix will come soon ... i got no interest to use winmo ..now i m fedup with winmo and just want to switch to android completely thats y i just asked for the battery fix.i m not forcing them to make it for me..just asking
2nd well i got 2 options motorola milestone(totally android ) or htc tp2 .. i was not into motorola devices so readed about tp2 is compatible ..well in my country only 5 or 6% ppls use other brand otherwise the remaining ppls use nokia or samsung so i wasnt able to use tp2 before the only option i got was to use it personally .....
i know that many many works need to be done...
well i readed about the fix but it is working without wifi and as i said earlier , i know its sound mean but all i need is battery fix with wifi...well as for battery warming without internet , no gps , no overclocking , no nothing just used with its original files it was just lying on my table and when i put it into my pocket i can feel that the battery is warming up so i have to restart the fone to switch back to winmo...
Your best bet, as I'm sure you know, if you wanted a perfectly working andoid phone was to buy one that was designed for it OR at least play with someones touch pro 2 who has android running on it so you would know what to expect.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well thankyou for ur help ... i really liked your suggestion so within 2 or 3 days i will switch to motorola asap....
Thankyou
1jaxstate1 said:
My battery meter seems to be working just dandy. I did a test yesterday and it was dead on. When in Android I looked at the battery meter and it was about 3/4 full. I opened spare parts and it was at 64%. I then rebooted the phone into WM (6.5, energy ROM) and opened tbattery and it was at 64%
I chared my phone to 100% yester afternoon around 5pm and after heavy use; 5 minutes twitter updates, constant facebook, automaticl gmail check, and non-stop text, I'm still sitting around 50%.
The work they are doing is awesome.
Sent from my MSM using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i know they done an awesome job ... i simply love this forum...
redpoint73 said:
Any battery meter needs to have several complete charge/recharge cycles to be completely accurate (charge phone to 100%, drain until it powers off by itself, repeat at least 3 times). So I would think Android on the TP2 is no different.
Anyway, if the OP got the message that the TP2 is "Andriod compatible", that that was the wrong impression, or at least an overstatement. This is an ongoing project. Given, one where some great folks are putting in tons of work and doing a wonderful job (and much appreciated). But its not perfect, and not the same as a phone which natively runs Android. If that was the OPs intent, then big mistake and he should have done more research before buying.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
mate i already did these things like i charged the fone 100% in winmo then switched the android after using for a while like calling for 2 or 3 minutes and some txt msgs and fone pop-up opens of charging the device.. i know its not perfect .. i didnt asked for every fix and i do alot research before buying the device. i spend 2weeks searching about tp2 and android.... and for now all i can say is
I LOVE THIS FORUM AND THEIR HELPING PPLS
I LOVE THE DEVS HERE FOR THEIR AWESOME WORK
AND I M SWITCHING TO MOTOROLA MILESTONE(COMPLETELY ANDROID )because i was tired to use winmo...
1jaxstate1 said:
And its always been posted that the battery meter has issues. I don't know how he could puurchase a TP2 for android and didn't even read the 1st post of the thread.
Sent from my MSM using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i know i know i know ...... i readed the faqs / complete post about .... i purchased the device just for its keyboard after blackberry 9700 i liked this device keyboard and android compatible i thought i going to be fun to use this device...Happy now???
Mods i got my answers and want to close this Thread
Thankyou
Might want to give this a read:
HTC Vision with Android, full QWERTY in the wild
Aaron McCarthy said:
Might want to give this a read:
HTC Vision with Android, full QWERTY in the wild
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks mate but its in rumors i think it will release Q4 2010 or Q2 2011... and i dont have that much time ... just fedup with this winmo....android is far far better then winmo
Would it be any way possible to get android (froyo) on the kin two? Its a really nice phone, not to mention that it doesn't require a data plan from verizon . I dont care that wifi is needed for internet access just that android on this thing would make it amazing. I am pretty decent at computers and stuff so if I know how to root it I may be able to develop my own software for it based on another package....
That is a wonderful idea and I would like to help you procced. The problems are we dont know how to boot the KIN into recovery. If we can figure this out were home free. Feel free to ask and Ill do anything to help.
controol shift r b i think its on the forums somewhere
Thats to reset to the origonal KIN software not a recovery mode.
How about APX Mode?
WEM97 said:
Thats to reset to the origonal KIN software not a recovery mode.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How about APX mode does that help?
Why would someone want android on it? i highly doubt its processor could handle it.
DustinWolf said:
Why would someone want android on it? i highly doubt its processor could handle it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
According to Wikipedia the Kin has a Freescale i. MX31L processor ARM Core nVidia Tegra APX 2600, which is dated now,but if it were to be hacked it could most likely run Froyo and/or Gingerbread (maybe). And according to documentation found on Android website, the Kin fits the profile for Gingerbread.
Title is the question. Please no negative/hate towards W10M, for which I am saying don't even reply. You would have to experience Windows Phone for 1+ year to even get a say to feel what i feel about windows OS. Android is still ugly lol. Anyways this is my "Opinion" on this matter.
I only want to know if it even is possible to do such thing for which this phone hardware is compatible for the features it has with the OS. Just the matter of drivers? I'm no software developer but is why i am asking you guys of possibilities of this happening or not.
Thanks!
Shawn
Not...
As you said drivers are a big issue... You might get away with the generic drivers for audio and video, might, but you will probably need specific drivers for the modem so goodbye phone hello pda...
More than likely it just won't boot...
You'd think with all these phones being released that have nearly the same chips (such as SD820 etc...) and antennas... but at same time would think W10M would be just like PC version, download needed drivers to operate the hardware lol.. But just what every company wants, to make everything different from each other to make more money.
Yep, that's what it's all about... To make $$$$...