Can someone explain to me the purpose of Outlook on the TP2? And how exactly does it differ from just setting up my own POP3 email? What benefit is gained from setting up my email as Outlook instead of as regular email? I'm just not getting this.
Either way, Windows Mobile uses Outlook Mobile to show email, no matter which option you choose. Much like Excel will show spreadsheets, Outlook is the program responsible for handling emails...
In this case I believe "Outlook Email" refers to Exchange Email. Exchange is a Microsoft Server product that integrates with the Mobile and Desktop versions of Outlook.
it also allows for calendar synchronization as well...
This is a holdover from the old days of the Pocket PC. Before Windows Mobile was running on phones, it was used on PDAs. The Outlook option in email allowed you to sync your email with your PC's outlook when connected with ActiveSync. When you synced your Pocket PC, your Outlook emails on your PC would get sent to the Outlook folder on your mobile device. Likewise, any emails you composed on your PDA would get sent to your PCs Outbox and sent out.
Nowadays, though, it's pretty useless since we all receive email directly on the device instead of by syncing with a PC. I wish I could get rid of it. In other words, there really is no good use for it now, just ignore it.
tinpanalley said:
Can someone explain to me the purpose of Outlook on the TP2? And how exactly does it differ from just setting up my own POP3 email? What benefit is gained from setting up my email as Outlook instead of as regular email? I'm just not getting this.
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If you are referring to the Outlook account inside the WM email program, that is used to synchronize your WM emails with MS Outlook on the desktop PC. That way when you connect via activesync, your phone will download all emails from your desktop outlook account. I have never used this feature.
However, your WM calendar is also synchronized with the desktop MS Outlook, which is a feature I use a lot.
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This is a holdover from the old days of the Pocket PC. Before Windows Mobile was running on phones, it was used on PDAs. The Outlook option in email allowed you to sync your email with your PC's outlook when connected with ActiveSync. When you synced your Pocket PC, your Outlook emails on your PC would get sent to the Outlook folder on your mobile device. Likewise, any emails you composed on your PDA would get sent to your PCs Outbox and sent out.
Nowadays, though, it's pretty useless since we all receive email directly on the device instead of by syncing with a PC. I wish I could get rid of it. In other words, there really is no good use for it now, just ignore it.
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It's not just for synchronizing with Outlook on a PC directly -- it also synchronizes with Exchange server.
Outlook on my TP2, with Activesync, synchronizes all my Outlook-type data (Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, and e-mail) with the same folders on my Exchange server.
I couldn't do this without Outlook (not interested in Gmail for important stuff -- too many false-positives in the spam folder), so it's not useless for me.
If you have a gmail account you can set up google sync through Active sync on your phone. It will push e-mails to your outlook inbox.
The level of ignorance on xda is growing. There was a time when a question like this would not be taken seriously, and most of the responses are ridiculous. Outlook is a client app. It rather seamlessly and natively handles synchronization of various kinds of data from either an exchange server (best option for pushing data) or POP3 or IMAP, etc. This data can include email, calendar, meeting requests, tasks, contacts, etc. I update information in one place and those changes are reflected on all my other devices instantly. That way all my devices have the same info, whether I'm at my desk, on OWA, on a pda or on my phone. Googlesync is a johnny-come-lately clone that tries to replicate the functionality of Outlook/exchange.
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So is the percentage of assholes. Thanks for contributing.
The op is talking about the Outlook account that's listed amongst his other email accounts, I believe. I don't think he's talking about Outlook itself.
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So is the percentage of assholes. Thanks for contributing.
The op is talking about the Outlook account that's listed amongst his other email accounts, I believe. I don't think he's talking about Outlook itself.
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the outlook account IS the activesync/exchange account, although i agree its silly to have it listed if its not configured
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The level of ignorance on xda is growing. There was a time when a question like this would not be taken seriously, and most of the responses are ridiculous. blah, blah, blah.
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This guy's post are never to be taken seriously -- unless you're into pointless snarkyness that contributes nothing to the thread (as if the choice of username and avatar weren't already a clue).
RE Ignorance: He obviously missed the point of the thread, which lsn't "Which is better: Outlook/Exchange or Google-syncing?"
Back when I was using a Dell PocketPC, I used the outlook email sync all the time. It was pretty convenient, considering the technology at the time. Nowadays, I don't sync Outlook email, as the op said, all that gets you is two email accounts with the same stuff in it. I still sync Outlooks contacts, calendar, task, notes.
As others have said, if you are syncing with an Exchange server, the Outlook email account could still be useful. I've never done, so for me and users like me the Outlook email account it is pretty useless, I wish I could make it disappear.
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This guy's post are never to be taken seriously -- unless you're into pointless snarkyness that contributes nothing to the thread (as if the choice of username and avatar weren't already a clue).
RE Ignorance: He obviously missed the point of the thread, which lsn't "Which is better: Outlook/Exchange or Google-syncing?"
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please give love a try...
MCbrian said:
This guy's post are never to be taken seriously -- unless you're into pointless snarkyness that contributes nothing to the thread (as if the choice of username and avatar weren't already a clue).
RE Ignorance: He obviously missed the point of the thread, which lsn't "Which is better: Outlook/Exchange or Google-syncing?"
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Actually, MCBrian, yours was one of the posts that made sense. My point was that this is basic information that has been repeated over and over again. I know when you grow, newbies will come, but reading is good! A quick search of this or any other winmo forum would have yielded the results the OP was looking for.
And, fwiw, if you check the OP's original question, how the conversation developed, and my response, you would see that I did not miss the point. But let the readers decide, homie.
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Actually, MCBrian, yours was one of the posts that made sense. My point was that this is basic information that has been repeated over and over again. I know when you grow, newbies will come, but reading is good! A quick search of this or any other winmo forum would have yielded the results the OP was looking for.
And, fwiw, if you check the OP's original question, how the conversation developed, and my response, you would see that I did not miss the point. But let the readers decide, homie.
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Yeah, what's so hard about just answering the question? What difference does it make if the answer is already out there? I always find it amusing how ruffled some people get about this.
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So is the percentage of assholes. Thanks for contributing.
The op is talking about the Outlook account that's listed amongst his other email accounts, I believe. I don't think he's talking about Outlook itself.
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Yeah, that's why I modified my post. At first I thought he meant what was the outlook program, but he was talking about the outlook account in WM messaging.
FWIW, I've been using WM since WM 2003, about 8 years now, and I've never used an Exchange server. It just happened that the company I was at preferred to save money and outsource to a remote email program. I did activesync my desktop outlook emails for a while there, but now I've gone to Thunderbird (great search engine) for my work emails. I do still sync my calendar and contacts, but mostly as a backup to the phone.
Oops, getting old, my first PPC was before WM 2003, the original T-Mobile PPC Phone. Huge device!
Yes, in case there is any confusion still, I was talking about the Outlook email on my phone. I just don't get the point.
I synced my phone, got to back up all my contacts to my Outlook 2007. Wonderful, but I already back up with PIMbackup. Is there any other value? Immediate push email or anything? Or does all of that involve setting up an exchange server?
Thanks!
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My best chuckle of the day. Thanks.
And my 2 cents. Some people (including me) ask questions to stimulate discussion. Maybe I know the exact answer to the question, but I want to hear or read others discuss it because I want to learn more about it. And BTW - the search on XDA leaves a lot to be desired.
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Is there a way to be notified of new messages when they hit folders other than the inbox. I have several developers that have server side rules that send error messages and other emails to certain folders but it does not tell them they have a new email.
My other question is how can I make it so that when you view your emails it only shows the subject and from lines. I would think this would be an easy hack but I can not find it.
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Tom
No! Havent seen anyone get new mail notificiations working for subfolders working.
Yeah, that would be great. I deleted all my rules for that same reason. No notifications.
This is the most annoying "feature" for Outlook (on whatever platform), only new email in the default Inbox folder will notified.
However, if you install MS Voice Command 1.6 it will read the email subject and senders name even if it arrives in (gets sortet do) a subfolder.
I've got a separate IMAP account on my phone (i.e. not outlook mail) - it audibly alerts when I get mail (checks every 30 mins) but no vibrate unfortunately However this is the main folder of the IMAP account, not sure if it would work for subfolders.
Any helpful programmer wanna have a go at this, it would be very useful
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I will look at the Voice Command software and also watch this post to see if there are any better ways to get this functionality.
On email viewing portion of my post there was an application that I came across in the last month that could do this but I can not find it anymore. If anyone knows how to do this hook me up.
Mine works too well
I have just the opposite going on. When a mail comes in that is processed by a rule, I ALWAYS get new mail notification, and sooner than my Outlook does.
Push mail is processed by Exchange before Outlook sees it. Therefore the inbox rules don't take effect on my phone until the next sync.
Your mileage may vary, but this has been my experience. That being said, I'll look into coding up a lightweight notification utility. Might be fun.
I'm just digging into the WM 6.0 SDK and there are some API hooks to do this.
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I have just the opposite going on. When a mail comes in that is processed by a rule, I ALWAYS get new mail notification, and sooner than my Outlook does.
Push mail is processed by Exchange before Outlook sees it. Therefore the inbox rules don't take effect on my phone until the next sync.
Your mileage may vary, but this has been my experience. That being said, I'll look into coding up a lightweight notification utility. Might be fun.
I'm just digging into the WM 6.0 SDK and there are some API hooks to do this.
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Aren't rules, even if they're setup on Outlook, syncd with your exchange server? So your phone should drop each email into the right folder.
Bacco said:
Aren't rules, even if they're setup on Outlook, syncd with your exchange server? So your phone should drop each email into the right folder.
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That's true, but I think the issue is that when it's moved to a folder and is not in the inbox, they don't get any notifications that a new message has arrived.
It seems that you are only notified when there is mail in the INBOX, but not anywhere else.
As far as notifications and filters go, Windows Mobile 5/6 is much more limited compared to the BlackBerry.
I'm going to have to do some searching to see if there's at least a 3rd party mail app (POP or IMAP) that has more features.
Rules processing
My rules, for reference, run on Outlook (client side).
Because my phone gets messages from Exchange before Outlook, I get notified, even if I've set a rule to move it out of the inbox and mark it as read.
Like I said earlier, I don't know how POP or IMAP clients react compared to Exchange, but I get my messages on my device before Outlook (client) does.
No rules run on the phone. Maybe we need to consider that as an add-on???
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Aren't rules, even if they're setup on Outlook, syncd with your exchange server? So your phone should drop each email into the right folder.
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Honestly, what the? Why did I get a trial of Outlook with this thing? Why not the full version? Thats the way it was when I purchased my previous devices!
I think it is Outlook for your PC, not PDA.
Exactly, Outlook 2007 for Windows PCs trial. I mean, you need Outlook on the PC to sync contacts and calendar, so why not the full version. Meh. Kinda glad I already had Outlook, and wasn't relying on the one that came with the phone!
You can use Outlook Express to sync you contacts.
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You can use Outlook Express to sync you contacts.
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how the heck did ya manage that? Surely through some third party tool or something?
Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5
Pff... I've given up ActiveSync because I have to sync with 2 PC's...
I use Funambol and that works much better!
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Honestly, what the? Why did I get a trial of Outlook with this thing? Why not the full version? Thats the way it was when I purchased my previous devices!
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Sure, when it comes to microstop you can sum up their strategies as:
1.- increasing greed.
2.- counterworking any open standards.
Honestly, Outlook is the worst ever piece of software for email client.
I banned it 2 years ago (and windows+ office too)
Backing up/ restoring outlook is a nightmare.
Look up in outlook messages is totally unresponsive above 1000 messages!
If you stick to windows then use thunderbird with funambol extension for sync your calendar, briefcase, notes, contacts thru internet and push mail service.
Thunderbird profile can be exported to other computers even mac or linux or 2 pc's can use the same thunderbird profile
Don't forget the 100's usefull extensions and skins for thunderbird.
Mobile sync
I have not heard of funambol before. Can you tell me if it will sync the status of emails. ie if I have read it on the mobile it shows as read on the desktop.
I have a desktop, laptop and mobile (just upgraded from Tytn2 to Touch Pro 2 and well impressed) and would like to sync the pst files on all 3.
I have found software (Sync2 from 4Team Corp) that works automatically from the laptop to the desktop by creating a third party copy of the pst anywhere on the LAN which doubles as a complete backup of Outlook, nice solution and mine is set to sync every 10 mins for all 3 of my business email accounts.
What I cannot do is to sync the status of emails with my Touch Pro 2 and the 4Team Corp help desk say that they cannot do this. With mobile communication being so key and easy today with superb tools (from HTC) to work, one of you cleaver buggers out there must be able to sort the issue and sync the mobile pst with the desktop version.
Large beer on the table for the first to provide a real solution!
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I(just upgraded from Tytn2 to Touch Pro 2 and well impressed)
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You need a new username!
phigafr said:
Honestly, Outlook is the worst ever piece of software for email client.
I banned it 2 years ago (and windows+ office too)
Backing up/ restoring outlook is a nightmare.
Look up in outlook messages is totally unresponsive above 1000 messages!
If you stick to windows then use thunderbird with funambol extension for sync your calendar, briefcase, notes, contacts thru internet and push mail service.
Thunderbird profile can be exported to other computers even mac or linux or 2 pc's can use the same thunderbird profile
Don't forget the 100's usefull extensions and skins for thunderbird.
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I have been living on MS-LookOut for many years now. I use standard IT practices (like keeping up to date on patches, automatic archiving) and I find Outlook to be very responsive, and I have a 2G mail store on my laptop. I manage my own Exchange server, and it has been very reliable and responsive. It is a matter of using modern platforms- a netbook class machine with XP just won't cut it.
My Outlook Mobile could be better- I wish I could have multiple exchange server support.
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Honestly, Outlook is the worst ever piece of software for email client.
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Then you haven't used Lotus Notes. Yeah, it's primarily groupware, but it was the ony e-mail client my former employer would allow. And it was horrible.
I have no problems with Outlook. I use Thunderbird for accessing personal e-mail at work, but I prefer Outlook by a mile.
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Pff... I've given up ActiveSync because I have to sync with 2 PC's...
I use Funambol and that works much better!
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I sync to 2 PC's using ActiveSync just fine.
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I sync to 2 PC's using ActiveSync just fine.
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+1. There is a limit of 2 PC's only on Activesync but it works as it should.
Some people just hate M$ because some people tell them to
powersquad said:
+1. There is a limit of 2 PC's only on Activesync but it works as it should.
Some people just hate M$ because some people tell them to
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Yes, and on the other hand, I don't think there is a limit as to the number of devices a PC can sync to - maximum I have tried was 5 PPC to one PC and to a single Outlook profile.
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Yes, and on the other hand, I don't think there is a limit as to the number of devices a PC can sync to - maximum I have tried was 5 PPC to one PC and to a single Outlook profile.
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I think x number of PPC are allowed to be connected to one PC, BUT 1 PPC can only sync/connect with max 2 different PC's. It can connect as a guest on more than 2 PC's though.
I tried connecting my TP2 to my work PC and active sync asked me to delete either desktop PC or laptop to make way for work synchorization.
What you said is correct!
Seriously, if you're planning on using more than one PC for emails, you're better off keeping them on the mailserver anyway.
Gmail with IMAP access means that I could access them from Outlook on my home PC, work PC and netbook (if I didn't like their web client) AND my TP2. And the changes I make on any of them apply to the rest.
That way, you don't have to worry about backing them up, because even if your machine catches fire, you just connect via IMAP on the replacement and get them all back again.
It is OK to use and like Microsoft products
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I have been living on MS-LookOut for many years now. I use standard IT practices (like keeping up to date on patches, automatic archiving) and I find Outlook to be very responsive, and I have a 2G mail store on my laptop. I manage my own Exchange server, and it has been very reliable and responsive. It is a matter of using modern platforms- a netbook class machine with XP just won't cut it.
My Outlook Mobile could be better- I wish I could have multiple exchange server support.
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Same here. I wish it would support multiple exchange servers.
Also, I have not observed any response problems at work. We have several anal-retentive, email-saving people who absolutely refuse to archive their emails. All of the email hoarders have 10s of thousands of emails, and multi-gigabyte mail stores on the laptop. Everyone is happy with the Outlook/Exchange combination. Schedules are synchronized, assistants have access to delegated mailboxes, etc.
The question on my mind is, will Windows Phone 7 Sync with Outlook that is not connected via Exchange?
I don't care about the emails but Contacts, Appointments & Tasks are important.
I hear about the Outlook connector but it seems to me that my PIM data will be moved over to LIVE account and then get synced.
I have a personal and a business domain that are hosted somewhere and I use outlook to get all my emails. I don't want to sync/copy my personal & business contacts on windows live mail. I have been waiting for WP7 to come out in lieu of getting a new mobile and this is not encouraging.
I assume Zune software will be upgraded to do most of the job.
Have I been reading wrong articles? Please guide me and correct me.
from what i read contacts/appointments will only be through activesync. i don't believe tasks are working as of yet.
how are you connecting outlook to your personal and business domains? to get anything more than email alone (pop/imap), you would have to have some protocol (e.g. exchange) in place to allow the rest to flow through.
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I am using POP3 at the moment and I don't believe the hosting provider gives me IMAP but I can live with it.
So ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center will still work to sync? I heard any talking to the device will only be done via Zune Software!
i thought sop too.. that zune software will be doing the sync insted of the active sync or windows device manager...
as MS will have some provision to sync with outlook or express...
i am waiting for the devices to be out in the market..
dell and HTC HDD is the one i am looking for...
I posted a question in MSDN forums and I am not getting clears answers there.
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Fo...s/thread/fb28aeec-7dbb-4c92-890a-a7763ae82b60
The Windows Phone Radio podcast has answered this question and they say that there is full Outlook integration, and that's aside from the already robust Exchange ActiveSync capabilities.
Thank you. That is a sigh of relief. I am going to get one now as soon as possible.
Spoke too soon. Other posts clarify that it will not be supported.
I cannot believe that WP7 does not sync with outlook. This is a dealbreaker for me, I have to be able to sync my work laptops outlook calendar and contacts with my phone!!
I was just about to buy one, looks like I`ll be forced to buy android.
Bummer.
WP7 will sync with outlook but not OFFLINE outlook i.e. Outlook not connected to Exchange or Cloud. So if you want to move your contacts and all apointments from PST file to WP7, you have to sync them to the cloud first.
I was hunting around last night looking for a solution to this, and the only software I can find which will perform a periodic sync of my work outlook calendar up into the cloud is google calendar sync - the irony that I`m forced to use google to solve this problem is not lost on me!!
I know there is a microsoft supplied outlook addin for hotmail - but its not much good for this problem - you have to MANUALLY drag appointments from outlook calendar to get them up into the cloud.
I would be interested to hear how others are going to address this problem - are there other solutions out there??
Doesn't look to me that there is a solution to this sort of wait for someone to write a program to do so or have MS release an update to Zune to do so.
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Doesn't look to me that there is a solution to this sort of wait for someone to write a program to do so or have MS release an update to Zune to do so.
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I think theres lot of ways round this, I just posted one method already!!!
Interested to hear how others will approach it.
That is the whole point. I don't want to put my personal and businee contacts and appointments onto the CLOUD. I just don't trust them with the privacy and security.
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That is the whole point. I don't want to put my personal and businee contacts and appointments onto the CLOUD. I just don't trust them with the privacy and security.
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I hear you, and Im not super keen on the concept either.
The only smartphone that nativley supports local outlook sync is iphone.
Well then that sux. I am all for WP7 par this. Any one has any idea about the REAL technical reasons behind this?
This doesn't sound encouraging.
I too have a similar issue. My company doesn't allow connecting to the Exchange server from personal phones and local Outlook sync was the only way for me to keep track of the meetings / tasks (also contacts) through my personal phone (Fuze).
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Well then that sux. I am all for WP7 par this. Any one has any idea about the REAL technical reasons behind this?
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There is no specific technical barrier that stops this. Its a conscious design decision to leave it out.
And theres no guarantee that MS` new closed approach to WP7 will mean that 3rd parties are allowed to write a local sync solution, either. Time will tell on that one.
The cloud is the future, aparrently, like it or not.
I am also concerned about my Outlook data. having my data in the Cloud bothers me too, I want the data with me not online. It doesn't matter how careful I am with data, anthing that is not under my direct control is at risk.
For example I have an email address shared only with friends which was all fine until one of my friend fell foul of a social network scam, not my email address is out in the wild and I'm recieving spam. i may be tech savvy, but some people should be allowed near a PC or phone. I don't want to put personal data in the Cloud only to have someone hack MS and gain access. Can you image a list of peoples diary saying where they are and when they are not at home, please come and rob me.
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I am also concerned about my Outlook data. having my data in the Cloud bothers me too, I want the data with me not online. It doesn't matter how careful I am with data, anthing that is not under my direct control is at risk.
For example I have an email address shared only with friends which was all fine until one of my friend fell foul of a social network scam, not my email address is out in the wild and I'm recieving spam. i may be tech savvy, but some people should be allowed near a PC or phone. I don't want to put personal data in the Cloud only to have someone hack MS and gain access. Can you image a list of peoples diary saying where they are and when they are not at home, please come and rob me.
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Take a pragmatic look at what data about you is out there on the internet and make a considered, risk based approach. If after that you still don`t like contacts and calendar events in the cloud, WP7 is not for you.
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Take a pragmatic look at what data about you is out there on the internet and make a considered, risk based approach. If after that you still don`t like contacts and calendar events in the cloud, WP7 is not for you.
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Very little is out there about me that I don't want out there. There's a difference between what is out there and what PERSONAL information I have in Outlook, which includes my diary, past and present, things I need to do, notes I make, etc.
I plan to look at WP7 once the devices are out and find out how things work myself before making a judgement either way. At the moment it's all speculation because very few people have their hands on one.
Windows Phone 7 Sync Software
Sync contacts, calendar and tasks with Windows Phone 7
http://www.companionlink.com/windowsphone/
Sync your PC with Windows Phone 7 via any Google, Gmail, or Google Apps Premier account. CompanionLink installs on the PC and syncs calendar, contacts and tasks to your Google/Gmail account. Google then syncs with Windows Phone 7 devices using the Exchange ActiveSync protocol provided by their Google Sync service. Two-way sync is fully supported so changes made on the phone will sync back to the PC.
Currently, there is no support for notes/memos because Google does not support syncing the notes datatype. CompanionLink is evaluating alternative sync methods for Windows Phone 7.
Sync
Has anyone tried this? If it works...gotta have it!
So rather than sync directly with Windows Live and access in Outlook via the Hotmail Connecter for free you should sync your data to google for $40? Fantastic product, where do I sign up?
BTW how to you sync Tasks if they're absent on WP7?
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BTW how to you sync Tasks if they're absent on WP7?
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Looks like it converts tasks on Outlook into non timed events on the calender. Note sure how priorities and due dates etc convert though
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So rather than sync directly with Windows Live and access in Outlook via the Hotmail Connecter for free you should sync your data to google for $40? Fantastic product, where do I sign up?
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Lol. Well, I can see the point if you use Google Apps for business reasons, but CompanionLink has always been a waste of money.
And overpriced at that.
Sync....yes $40!
The Outlook connector to sync to Hotmail is EXTREEMLY limited. In my normal Contacts folder I have about 5000 contacts. The calendar for the next 90 day includes almost 400 events. The Hotmail calendar hold enough events but does not SYNC the correct folder! I want to sync...NOT IMPORT. I think hotmail contacts are limited to a few hunderd.
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The Outlook connector to sync to Hotmail is EXTREEMLY limited. In my normal Contacts folder I have about 5000 contacts. The calendar for the next 90 day includes almost 400 events. The Hotmail calendar hold enough events but does not SYNC the correct folder! I want to sync...NOT IMPORT. I think hotmail contacts are limited to a few hunderd.
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Outlook allows you to Layer Calendars. The fact that it's going to the the Hotmail Calendar means little to nothing.
People layer calendars on a daily basis. You don't put Holidays and Birthdates on your work calendar, do you?
Putting your contacts on Hotmail is as simple as dragging and dropping them to the Hotmail Calendar Folder.
Hotmail has gone through many changes and supports most of the Outlook Fields. 99% of people will have no issue with just dragging them over. I had over 200 Contacts and they all went to Windows Live with no issue. I had more issues porting over to Google than to Windows Live using Outlook due to field name differences and missing fields in Google Contacts (a notorious weak point in the Google Services).
It does Sync. Just to the Hotmail Folder, the same way Exchange Data goes to its own file.
This prevents data from becoming too disorganized, like when you have several POP3 accounts dropping mail into the same PST/Mailbox file.
If you had an Exchange account set up in Outlook, I find it hard to believe you'd want your Windows Live Calendar going into your Exchange Calendar, Windos Live Mail going into your Exchange Mailbox, and Windows Live Contacts being jumbled in with you Exchange contacts... I'm sure you want that mail you sent to your brother calling your boss a dickwad to get archived on their corporate servers, etc.
I think a large part of this is people have some unrealistic expectations of how things should work, and having no clue how organized people actually organize their data.
Windows Live Connector works similarly to Exchange on Outlook. The only difference is you need a connector for it (at least for Outlook 2003/2007), because the functionality is not built into the application. I expect the next version of Outlook to have the connector built in as core functionality. To get similar functionality for Google Accounts, you'd need to pay for Google Apps premier edition (and even then, their Contacts/Calendar Sync sucks hardcore). No other system has as good integration with Outlook as Exchange and Windows Live. You people keep complaining about something so trivial, when the alternatives fall flat on their faces. Seriously.
Also, the premier client software for Windows Live is Essentials.
I still don't like the whole idea of this 'cloud' thing for my Contacts and Calendar. I much prefer controlling the information that goes between my phone and my laptop ... I do NOT like the idea that it now has to go out to the 'cloud' somewhere with all my Contacts' information.
I just do not like it one bit! I want a direct link between phone and laptop ... even if I have to hardwire it to get the data updated.
kahibbi said:
I still don't like the whole idea of this 'cloud' thing for my Contacts and Calendar. I much prefer controlling the information that goes between my phone and my laptop ... I do NOT like the idea that it now has to go out to the 'cloud' somewhere with all my Contacts' information.
I just do not like it one bit! I want a direct link between phone and laptop ... even if I have to hardwire it to get the data updated.
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My business should remain my business. Especially if you handle private informations.
iridio said:
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My business should remain my business. Especially if you handle private informations.
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Set up an Exchange server on an old PC then
/sarcasm
I can't for the life of me understand why people don't wanna move to the cloud... Accessible from anywhere, anyone?
Good for non-Microsoft PIM clients
Hi all
I think that the companion software comes into it's own if you have a non-Microsoft PIM/email client such as Lotus Notes, etc.
I tried it to get some data from my WM 6.5 device into my Googlemail account. That worked very well, but I probably wouldn't pay for it.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
it doenst resolve my sync problems on the phone itself. the phone will only sync with the main calendar at google. i need the others to. for syncing outlook to google i use gSyncIt. Its much cheaper and you have more control over the sync.
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The Outlook connector to sync to Hotmail is EXTREEMLY limited. In my normal Contacts folder I have about 5000 contacts. The calendar for the next 90 day includes almost 400 events. The Hotmail calendar hold enough events but does not SYNC the correct folder! I want to sync...NOT IMPORT. I think hotmail contacts are limited to a few hunderd.
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wait, you have 5k contacts and 400 events in the next 90 days, yet you don't have an exchange acct???
NoWorthWhile said:
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Don't you mean "Accessible from anywhere BY anyone?"
CompanionLink is the sole reason I gave up on WP7 and moved to Android. It syncs my Outlook contacts, calendar, tasks and notes via USB to my Droid2.
No thanks to posting my vacation plans, parents' address, business contacts, etc. to the cloud (MS, Google or other) for any hacker to find.
CompanionLink isn't cheap, and it isn't perfect - it's about as accurate as ActiveSync was - but at least it offers a basic compatibility with Outlook that Microsoft decided to abandon.
Ok... Its finally time I use this phone to sync with outlook 2007 that I have on my computer..
I don't care much about contacts.. What I need it for is reminders..
Throughout my day I have about 10-20 reminders.. I really want to have this sync with my phone..
I honestly don't even know where to start but assume this should be a VERY simple task?
THANKS
EDIT** If it helps I have "Pure Widget Calender Widget"
I just have it up, but it doesn't do anything besides show me a calendar as of now.. LOL
I have my outlook 2007 calendar synced and it works great. There is a desktop client that you need to install called Google Calendar Sync (google it) and that will keep your outlook calendar synced with your gmail one. Once you get the two synced up, set up your calendar widget to display your gmail calendar and you should be good to go. You can add an event in outlook, gmail, or directly on your phone and it will be populated across all three automatically.
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I have my outlook 2007 calendar synced and it works great. There is a desktop client that you need to install called Google Calendar Sync (google it) and that will keep your outlook calendar synced with your gmail one. Once you get the two synced up, set up your calendar widget to display your gmail calendar and you should be good to go. You can add an event in outlook, gmail, or directly on your phone and it will be populated across all three automatically.
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Ok my one question is this.. Say I set all my reminders through my computer outlook.. I shut down and leave the office.. Now I'm screwed right?
I should sync before I shut down my computer? I don't want my phone to sync every hour because it would kill battery I assume..
Or how does it work?
I'm not entirely sure what the frequency that the client syncs with outlook is, but you can do it manually. Add your reminders, hit sync, then shut your laptop down. That client only syncs your outlook with your gmail so it's sync frequency will have no effect on your battery life. As long as you have your gmail account sent to sync on your phone, the new reminders should get pushed the same way contacts do. I really don't think that has a significant effect on your battery life either. Of course you can turn off all auto syncing and do it all manually but that would probably get annoying really quick.
Why mess with Google calendar sync at all? Why not just set up ActiveSync? I have mine set up to always sync, with no off peak time. Works fine, computer doesn't need to be on, and doesn't affect the battery at all.
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I've never even messed with active sync at all. I always thought you needed to connect your EVO to your computer to sync with it. How does it get the data from your outlook into your EVO?
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I've never even messed with active sync at all. I always thought you needed to connect your EVO to your computer to sync with it. How does it get the data from your outlook into your EVO?
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I am with you.. I also don't know how it gets the data..
I do like your way though..
I don't mind.. Everyday before I leave I just hit the sync button.. Even if I forget its not that big of a deal as the reminders are usually a few days out..
Still.. If active sync is better some how, I too want to know more about this..
THANKS
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I've never even messed with active sync at all. I always thought you needed to connect your EVO to your computer to sync with it. How does it get the data from your outlook into your EVO?
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You're looking at it wrong - your not sending data from outlook to your phone. When someone sends you an email or a meetingmaker or something like that, it doesn't go right to "outlook" - it goes to your exchange server which then sends the data elsewhere for you to access (like outlook). I don't know about you, but I can also access all of my corporate email through a web client also, outside of outlook - this works similarly. What activesync does is tells the exchange server to not only send your data to outlook, but also send it to the activesync account on your phone. Again, even though this is all in real time, this uses no battery (because of how it's set up, it's not continuously polling for new data) - and sometimes I even get my email on my phone before it appears in outlook. I have it synced with my exchange calandar and email 24/7, and have never had any battery issues with it - not even negligable battery usage.
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You're looking at it wrong - your not sending data from outlook to your phone. When someone sends you an email or a meetingmaker or something like that, it doesn't go right to "outlook" - it goes to your exchange server which then sends the data elsewhere for you to access (like outlook). I don't know about you, but I can also access all of my corporate email through a web client also, outside of outlook - this works similarly. What activesync does is tells the exchange server to not only send your data to outlook, but also send it to the activesync account on your phone. Again, even though this is all in real time, this uses no battery (because of how it's set up, it's not continuously polling for new data) - and sometimes I even get my email on my phone before it appears in outlook. I have it synced with my exchange calandar and email 24/7, and have never had any battery issues with it - not even negligable battery usage.
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Ok then... 2 things..
I don't really want my email to my phone.. Can I just get my calender reminders only using active sync?
The other thing.. How do I do this? LOL I used to do this with my old Touch, but its been years and totally forgot.. Thanks
fastfed said:
Ok then... 2 things..
I don't really want my email to my phone.. Can I just get my calender reminders only using active sync?
The other thing.. How do I do this? LOL I used to do this with my old Touch, but its been years and totally forgot.. Thanks
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settings -> accounts & sync -> add account -> exchange Activesync
during the setup process (which is painless, but you may need to get some info from your IT group like server info) you'll choose what you want to sync to your phone. The options it gives you are email, contacts, and calandar. If you just want calandar, make sure that box is checked, and the other ones aren't.
actually, you may need to set it up first, then go back into
settings -> accounts & sync -> exchange Activesync to uncheck email and contacts, if you don't want it to sync everything. hope that helps
Im confused on what my domain should be.. and my server address should be the same as my email for outlook right?
It keeps coming back as authentication failed... Please verify username and/or password..
Also I have access to everything I need
fastfed said:
Im confused on what my domain should be.. and my server address should be the same as my email for outlook right?
It keeps coming back as authentication failed... Please verify username and/or password..
Also I have access to everything I need
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That I can't help you with. It's supposed to be the same, but that's not always the case. On my end, I had to get server and domain info that I'd never heard of before. Try to get your hands on some "setting up ActiveSync" documentation from your company, it shouldn't be too hard to find, and will have all the details you need to enter.
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That I can't help you with. It's supposed to be the same, but that's not always the case. On my end, I had to get server and domain info that I'd never heard of before. Try to get your hands on some "setting up ActiveSync" documentation from your company, it shouldn't be too hard to find, and will have all the details you need to enter.
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LOL.. I am the company..
I have a hosting company. Email address, business website..
Just don't know what to input..
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LOL.. I am the company..
I have a hosting company. Email address, business website..
Just don't know what to input..
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check the settings on the hosting end. you may have to give them a call to find out the information you need. i had to use the webmail login information to get it to work.
i use ExchangeActiveSync extensively. i get all my work emails as they arrive on the server and its pretty neat that it syncs my calendar as well. I have the HTC Agenda widget on one of the 7 screens, it pulls in my outlook calendar, google calendar and my facebook events. its pretty awesome!!!
I'm with start logic for my hosting company...i guess I'll give them a call unless someone here knows the information? Thanks
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check the settings on the hosting end. you may have to give them a call to find out the information you need. i had to use the webmail login information to get it to work.
i use ExchangeActiveSync extensively. i get all my work emails as they arrive on the server and its pretty neat that it syncs my calendar as well. I have the HTC Agenda widget on one of the 7 screens, it pulls in my outlook calendar, google calendar and my facebook events. its pretty awesome!!!
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How are you guys using ActiveSync with your Evo? Is this Microsoft's ActiveSync or something else? I used it for years with my Windows Mobile phones and would kill for the same functionality with Android.
Fellas, just talk to your IT departments for the following basic info:
Domain name
Server name
You should obviously have your username and password already. ActiveSync is both a desktop application for old WinMo phones and a feature of Exchange. iPhones, Android phones, and a few others can sync with an Exchange mailbox by talking nice to ActiveSync running on your mail server.
HOWEVER, some Exchange admins retain tight control over what types of devices can sync with your mailbox, and some even require you to request sync to begin with. Mobile sync is turned off by default and must be enabled on your mailbox.
Buy your network admin a drink, he'll hook you up. I would ;-)