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Hello. Proud new owner of HTC Desire. I am going crazy at how beautiful this phone is.
I come from Nokia E71, BB Bold 9000, iPhone3G (never used 3Gs/4), Windows Mobile 6.
In all of those cases, I could not completely find OS that suits my needs.
I must say though, Symbian on E71 came closest to what I need.
What do I need?
I just need 5 functions, but I want them to work snappy and extremely fast.
Use the phone, send texts, browse the net, watch movies and use Google Maps. That's it.
As you can see, I am not a power user by any means. I don't need twitter, facebook, or push email. Basically, I am looking for simplest and most basic ROM out there that gets rid of pretty much EVERYTHING (think of custom Windows XP with useless features taken out).
I want to conserve as much battery as I can by not using anything that is not related to me.
Could any of you good folks recommend which ROM I should be looking at? I am not also a big fan of eye-candy, so this ROM I am seeking does not need to have the latest UI there's in the world. Just as long as it looks decent, but WORKS!
Thank you in advance. If there's a thread like this, please just link it and I will get info from there.
I use CyanogenMod with ADW launcher(CM6 comes with it), works great honestly. Does not contain any sort of extra bloat apart from the necessities. OpenDesire might be a good alternative to CM6 but I haven't tried it.
If you want a none sense ROM then Opendesire would easily be the most stable and the fastest. For sense, I would go Leedroid
If you want no Sense, go for OpenDesire. If you want Sense, use Pinky Desire (my personal favorite, clean and simple, also gets OTA updates from ROM Manager) or Leedroid (also great, but doesn't support OTA updating, only manual installation). I could also suggest MacLite, but I don't know about how stable it is. Oh, and don't use AuraxtSense or whatever it's called, it's bloated.
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How would cyanogenmod compare with OpenDesire?
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maclite 0.8 - very basic, stripped down version of sense. but it is odexed so you can't theme it. most, if not all, bloats have been removed so i'm expecting quite good battery life. note that it doesn't support the legacy A2SD+ so you're pretty limited with the internal storage. if you're not gonna theme and not gonna install many apps, this rom will pretty much suits you.
Thanks both of you for quick reply.
It's extra needed especially since i am waiting to root my phone because I have a flight tomorrow afternoon, so wanted it rooted in airplane.
Just read features of maclite 0.8....almost had nerd-gasm reading this:
Removed space and battery wasting applications/widgets are (see posting #2 below on how to restore):
- AppSharing
- DCSStock
- Facebook
- FriendStream (broken since Twitters change to OAuth)
- FriendStreamWidget (broken since Twitters change to OAuth)
- Flickr
- Footprints
- FootprintsWidgets
- GenieWidget
- Google Search
- Google Talk
- HtcFacebook
- htcmailwidgets (do not work with the new Email client, use app instead of widget)
- install_flash_player (latest Flash player included instead)
- Learn More
- Maps (replaced, see below)
- NewsReader
- NewsReaderWidget
- PDFViewer
- Quickoffice
- Sim Toolkit
- SocialNetworkProvider
- Stocks
- StockWidget
- Teeter
- Twitter (broken since Twitters change to OAuth)
- TwitterWidget (broken since Twitters change to OAuth)
- VoiceSearch
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That's EXACTLY what I was looking for.
Open Desire for a non sense ROM and and Lee Driod if you decide to go Sense.
OD is my favourite ROM - No bloat, just usefulness
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so far, really liking maclite.
but can't seem to find file explorer.
looked practically everywhere!
OpenDesire's flies....(literally)
I has a phone said:
so far, really liking maclite.
but can't seem to find file explorer.
looked practically everywhere!
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You need to download/install that from the market, as all other 3rd party software.
try all the roms and choose your favourite.
personnaly i use opendesire
seeing you've just got your Desire I would suggest just using the stock rom for a while (yes, boring - but practical). The stock 2.1 rom is really pretty good and meets all of your criteria.
you can suss out what you like/don't like then choose a custom rom accordingly. all you are getting here are what other people like/use.
I am deciding to buy a phone: between hd2 and desire. I would prefer hd2 as it can have multi-os. I am a developer and it's a plus to have a phone support multi os so that i can develop and test on these os without having to buy multiple phones... i am planning to use android as my main os but i am wondering if it worth it..
I have been reading a lot of threads of android roms on hd2 and posting quite some questions lately about flash 10.1 support, battery etc..
the more i read about the android roms on hd2, i keep finding more and more issues(with some constantly repeating):
like robot voice where some people say it's fixed in one thread and in another more recent thread someone else says he still has the issue (and has to enable loudspeaker and turn it off or some say the phone freezes when they get robot voice and have to reboot); that's pretty annoying imo..
there's also low volume issue that i always see in every rom thread i read..
then there is vibration problem or phone not ringing, missed calls issues, battery drain issue, etc... (the list is quite big )
my question: do these issues exist in htc desire sock rom or desire's custom roms (i am a fan of customisation and will probably be flashing custom rom on desire if i buy a desire instead of an hd2)?
My primary concerns are
calls, sms (I will be using it for my work; so missing a call or having bad call quality or missing sms are not acceptable)
camera (should react quick a bug-free to take photos with default winmo quality)
music player (just need decent sound)
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is there an android rom having all these 4 functionalities stable and bug-free (haven't found any yet.. been doing a lot of research and reading a lot of android rom thread)...
sorry for the long post and thx for reading it... waiting for your responses... depending on my needs. Hopefully, i will get the necessary advice to make my final decision. Thanking you in advance
u've said it all in ur post, if android is not running as it should on hd2 (as hd2 is primarily designed for WM) and u need android as ur first OS option, there should be no question which of these 2 to chose.
as for custom ROMs u have a thread about each one so take a look. basicly they all do the work.
but then u have multi os on hd2 and like i am asking in my post : is there actually a stable android build on hd2 that do not have the issues i mentionned? maybe i missed it... would be glad if a user with both phones could answer me
There are many great roms for desire. As long as you choose a stable one and not a rc. All have different pros and cons. Personally defrost & oxygen my favorite. But I change all the time currently running ReDux. Which is the most stable gingerbread rom I've found. Anyway any stable rom should consistantly deliver those 4 thing u want. Can't speak for hd2 as never used 1. But I really rate my desire. .
P.s get a case straight away as camera cover gets scratched up easy.
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Do you want to run WinMo? If not.. desire all the way
Why struggle to make something run Android when you can get a proper native android device? Seems like a no-brainer to me
well ive rooted my prev phone n caused it to brick n i cant think of any reasons to root dhd
app2sd - 2.2 already have them
roms - same as any app launcher in market(?)
getting 2.3 etc ealier - id rather wait fr official since i like htc sense anyway.
higher cpu - the phone is way fast enough for me... the 2.2.1 update improved the lag by alot.. i did not get any lag since update.
access to apps like screencast - maybe
removing apps that cannot be removed - i dont want to remove em
improved camera etc in roms - yet again 2.2.1 basically fixed every problem on this phone like low volume, bad camera, lag etc
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kudoboi said:
well ive rooted my prev phone n caused it to brick n i cant think of any reasons to root dhd
app2sd - 2.2 already have them
roms - same as any app launcher in market(?)
getting 2.3 etc ealier - id rather wait fr official since i like htc sense anyway.
higher cpu - the phone is way fast enough for me... the 2.2.1 update improved the lag by alot.. i did not get any lag since update.
access to apps like screencast - maybe
removing apps that cannot be removed - i dont want to remove em
improved camera etc in roms - yet again 2.2.1 basically fixed every problem on this phone like low volume, bad camera, lag etc
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I recently also moved from HD2 to Desire HD and also don't see the reason for rooting.
I messed around with HD2 because I didn't like WM and I wanted Android.
Now that I have Android as a native OS I also really don't see the need for rooting. I belive that official updates are always way better than the unofficial ones (this ment with all due respect to all of the chefs out there that are trying their best) because unofficial ones have testing cycle that are way smaller and so new versions with fixes tend to come out at least once in a couple of days.
Maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture. If you think I'm also wrong, please say so.
If you're happy with your phone now then by all means leave it as it is. But as long as you follow instructions to the word, you're not going to brick your device.
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I belive that official updates are always way better than the unofficial ones (this ment with all due respect to all of the chefs out there that are trying their best) because unofficial ones have testing cycle that are way smaller and so new versions with fixes tend to come out at least once in a couple of days.
Maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture. If you think I'm also wrong, please say so.
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I would have to say that the ROMs I have used (ARHD many versions and CM7 Rc1) that the testing cycle might be smaller but support is generally a lot better than with the official updates.
But in answer to your question is Rooting worth it, well that all depends on what you want from your phone tbh. If you want a customised ROM or the ability to move ALL apps in their entirety to your SD (this is a root only feature) a heavily improved battery life (in some circles) or stock android experience etc, then yea Root that bad boy and enjoy.
If however you are a standard user then it really is not worth it. I rooted mine as i wanted to eek out some extra battery and performance. It was worth it.
I'm new to rooting & flashing roms this week, had my dhd since oct last year & kept it legit until now.
Everything's gone fine for me - downgraded from official ota 2.2.1 (1.72.xxx.x) to 2.2 (1.32.xxx.x - PD98IMG.zip file) so i could root (didn't need goldcard, phone unlocked & unbranded from new)
I got a RUU just in case though.
Did the s-off & radio off thing (couldn't be any easier), put revolution rom on first, but didn't think much of it, so now i'm on CM7... loving it, but it's early days.
Still got to work out how to get the market back (google apps file needed i think).
Originally rooted so i could get my bluetooth keyboard working with my dhd, revolution made no difference, CM7 is looking promising.
kudoboi said:
well ive rooted my prev phone n caused it to brick n i cant think of any reasons to root dhd
app2sd - 2.2 already have them
roms - same as any app launcher in market(?)
getting 2.3 etc ealier - id rather wait fr official since i like htc sense anyway.
higher cpu - the phone is way fast enough for me... the 2.2.1 update improved the lag by alot.. i did not get any lag since update.
access to apps like screencast - maybe
removing apps that cannot be removed - i dont want to remove em
improved camera etc in roms - yet again 2.2.1 basically fixed every problem on this phone like low volume, bad camera, lag etc
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Hi!
Is root worth it?
Well. I can only speak for my self of course. Where I live, Google has not yet opened up for paid apps. It is possible to circumvent but, for me, the easiest solution requires root.
If I want to clarify a problem or a solution, e.g. at xda, it is nice to be able to add a screen dump. This is possible through Android SDK, but i haven't, as of yet, figured out how to do this. Anyway you need to be hooked up to a computer to do this which kind of negates the idea of posting from the phone. There's an app to do this as well but again, this requires root.
Living in a small arctic town the weather app hasn't got my location in the database. It is possible and quite easy to remedy this issue but - u guessed it - requires root.
I guess it comes down to personal preferences which, at least for me, has got a lot to do with where I live.
Can you get by without root? Good for you, best of luck etc.
I can't.
Regards Elo.
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Like it was pointed out, the main advantage are the custom ROMs or kernels. The apache 13 kernels have great performance.
If you don't plan on using them root isn't that needed though. On the other hand rooting is almost risk free with the new one click tools.
If you have to ask. Then no.
Personally, I'm not much for sense and I love to play around with different Roms, kernels, overclocking and all that.
I can only think of one thing worth rooting for if you're not going to flash, overclock and so on. And that is the fact one can remove those bloody ads with Adfree.
kudoboi said:
well ive rooted my prev phone n caused it to brick n i cant think of any reasons to root dhd
app2sd - 2.2 already have them
roms - same as any app launcher in market(?)
getting 2.3 etc ealier - id rather wait fr official since i like htc sense anyway.
higher cpu - the phone is way fast enough for me... the 2.2.1 update improved the lag by alot.. i did not get any lag since update.
access to apps like screencast - maybe
removing apps that cannot be removed - i dont want to remove em
improved camera etc in roms - yet again 2.2.1 basically fixed every problem on this phone like low volume, bad camera, lag etc
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Bottom Point: HUGE BATTERY LIFE IMPROVEMENT!!
You decide.
im in a urban area so i dont need root to unlock app market and hidden apps and paid apps.. im have 16 hrs a day n my phone is usually connected to the pc... so charging is not a problem fr me... n 2.2.1 did improve the battery by alot... i did nt touch the phone fr 7 hours and the battery only went down by 2%
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If you are pleased with your DHD with sesnse don't. But you asking therfor i think you are courious. Read about it here in XDA and the different threads, collect information and when your couriosity gets to big you know where to find the info.
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I'm totally new to android and even to embedded systems and new to this forum. There are plenty information about everything, but there are no simple answers for my needs.
First of all, I'm quite happy as a linux developer to have android system. I've imagined it quite different (NDK is without GUI api, only SDK is good for application development and this means Java, not C++, rooting without exchanging flash and so on), but I'm still happy after using Symbian and WM6. The only two things I would like to do with the phone right now are:
1. 2 way call recording
2. permroot
But why I'm posting this...
Ad 1. Only easy solution I've seen for two way call recording is to flash everything with LeeDroid for example. There are big disadvantages - no further updates of the system (android 2.3), some reports that LeeDroid isn't perfect (I don't know that those rumours are true, but I've seen speed complains and some strange behaviors) and so on.
Ad 2. Here I would like to ask that AMT is a good way to do it (I mean "automagically") with below device description:
Device Model: Desire HD
Bootloader Version: 0.85.0007 SHIP HBOOT
Radio Version: 26.03.02.26_M
ROM Version: 1.32.405.6
Android Version: 2.2
CID: HTC__032
and secondly - why should I bother about S-OFF (what is this exactly? I dodn't get it right after reading about flashing), what is HBOOT, how exactly booting works, I mean... not for noob, more clearer for adv. linux user.
Best thing to achieve for me would be rooting (with r/w on the system mount) and a driver for two way recording without messing with the rest of supplied system/kernel/roms/etc... Or alternatively - can any of you convince me that LeeDroid or other "flashing package" is better than nandroid and won't beak anything in my phone?
I'm sorry for (as I suppose) another doubtful/stupid post, but I really need to know what all this means for the phone before doing anything smart/stupid, and the thousands of posts around are not very helpful yet (few days of reading).
I had the same problem, well almost I didn't think about any specific advantages of rooting my DHD and flashing custom ROM, I was just affraid that I might break sth. Seriously, LeeDroid is an awesome ROM, I use it on a daily basis with no problems. For now everything has been working way better than on standard stock ROM. If you need convincing than, let me tell you this. With LeeDroid you get all the stuff you have on stock ROM + many many many more and the OS doesn't lag like the standard one does, you get Rosie, HTC Sense 3.0, CPU OC...and the list goes on. If you read enough about rooting and flashing ROMs than belive me, it's easy. Also about updates, these are available through ROM manager which is included in the ROM.
krzych said:
The only two things I would like to do with the phone right now are:
1. 2 way call recording
2. permroot
But why I'm posting this...
Ad 1. Only easy solution I've seen for two way call recording is to flash everything with LeeDroid for example. There are big disadvantages - no further updates of the system (android 2.3), some reports that LeeDroid isn't perfect (I don't know that those rumours are true, but I've seen speed complains and some strange behaviors) and so on.
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LordMOD's kernel for AOSP allows for two way recording without all the SENSE crap that comes with LeeDroid, if you want a ROM with LordMOD kernel you could do worse than try HydrOG3n MOD
krzych said:
Ad 2. Here I would like to ask that AMT is a good way to do it (I mean "automagically") with below device description:
Device Model: Desire HD
Bootloader Version: 0.85.0007 SHIP HBOOT
Radio Version: 26.03.02.26_M
ROM Version: 1.32.405.6
Android Version: 2.2
CID: HTC__032
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Follow instructions here
krzych said:
and secondly - why should I bother about S-OFF (what is this exactly? I dodn't get it right after reading about flashing), what is HBOOT, how exactly booting works, I mean... not for noob, more clearer for adv. linux user.
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Your /system is currently in read only mode, without S-OFF (Security off) you are unable to change that and thus are unable to make permanent changes to /system, you can make changes but they are cached in RAM thus a reboot reverts them. Achieving S-OFF allows the /system to be written thus changes are permanent
HBOOT is analogous with BIOS on a pc, this controls the security status of your DHD, thus to achieve S-OFF you must replace the HBOOT with one that allows the security to be deactivated, there is a similar system protecting the Radios (there appears to be a backup radio, thus if flashing goes wrong the radio can run off the backup) hence you can also have Radio S-OFF.
krzych said:
Best thing to achieve for me would be rooting (with r/w on the system mount) and a driver for two way recording without messing with the rest of supplied system/kernel/roms/etc... Or alternatively - can any of you convince me that LeeDroid or other "flashing package" is better than nandroid and won't beak anything in my phone?
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I wont recommend LeeDroid, and you need the Kernel modules to allow two way recording so either install cm7 or another AOSP based ROM and then one of LordMOD kernels or HydrOG3n MOD
krzych said:
I'm sorry for (as I suppose) another doubtful/stupid post, but I really need to know what all this means for the phone before doing anything smart/stupid, and the thousands of posts around are not very helpful yet (few days of reading).
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A good starting thread is this one and don't worry we where all noobs once.
May I ask why exactly wouldn't you recommend LeeDroid? I've been using it for some time now with no problems whatsoever. Unless there is sth about this ROM that I don't know. I'm happy with Sense 3.0 (Rosie), it's smooth, doesn't lag, looks nice unlike some custom launchers.
Ghostofcain, thank you very much for quite a nice introduction. I can only ask the same thing to clarify what's really not nice in LeeDroid as haerigrek mentioned, and one of forgotten thing yesterday:
Can you describe me exactly how it works and if it's possible to completely backup whole hboot, radio and system to be _sure_ I can reverse all changes at any time assuming I won't brick the phone? (I think it will be something about clockwork, but I'm still confused)
And maybe anyone can post me most terrible or most often done brick reasons... to be more aware and maybe to be sure it's... safe if done right.
And in the meantime I will read all the links supplied here, so be sure any further posting will be read by me and is needed, but it will take some time before I speak again (busy week/weekend/next week but still, I plan to know something next weekend).
krzych said:
Ghostofcain, thank you very much for quite a nice introduction. I can only ask the same thing to clarify what's really not nice in LeeDroid as haerigrek mentioned, and one of forgotten thing yesterday:
Can you describe me exactly how it works and if it's possible to completely backup whole hboot, radio and system to be _sure_ I can reverse all changes at any time assuming I won't brick the phone? (I think it will be something about clockwork, but I'm still confused)
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Problem with LeeDroid, in one word SENSE! If i wanted bling that slowed my phone down I'd have bought an iPhone, seriously a decent AOSP based ROM comes in at 70-80mb LeeDroid (and other SENSE polluted ROMS) 230-260mb and most of that is bloat I don't want. If you like SENSE and use all it's features by all means give it a whirl, but if you don't go for something a little lighter.
Depending on what ROM your currently running (OUK, Vodafone etc) your best bet if anything went wrong would be to restore with the appropriate RUU, which will put your phone back to Stock i.e Hboot, radio etc. Bricking the phone is actually very hard , even intentionally and until you've flashed the HBoot is prevented by S-OFF, when you have S-OFF be sure to carry out a NANDROID backup (which takes a system snapshot which can subsequently be restored reverting all changes you have made since) before you flash anything which will allow you to revert to your stock rooted ROM. In the main have fun
I agree with ghostofcain 125%.
Paradoxxx's 1.3.1 Benchmark Edition weighs in at an amazing 53MB. I have larger audio files. And yet it still does everything I need- Phone, email, sms, web & XDA.
So what you guys say is that it's a choice between a SENSE/NON-SENSE ROM. I mean seriously, I like SENSE, it does e'thing I need and more, and it looks nice, and I can't say anything bad about LeeDroid ROMs apart from the 3.1.7 Kernel which didn't have 2way call recording.
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So what you guys say is that it's a choice between a SENSE/NON-SENSE ROM. I mean seriously, I like SENSE, it does e'thing I need and more, and it looks nice, and I can't say anything bad about LeeDroid ROMs apart from the 3.1.7 Kernel which didn't have 2way call recording.
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if your a fan of SENSE stick with LeeDroid and you wont be disappointed, but if you regard SENSE as a disease to be eradicated look elsewhere.
Ok, now big picture looks more clear, but one thing to ask yet - where to find a page/thread that compares functionalities of some (most decent) mods if I decide to say good bye to HTC Sense...? I think it is crucial to have a good mail client, move/sound player, calendar, messaging, dialer, sliding gui, home screen with widgets (or something at least like start screen in WM - capable of informing, having status icons/bars etc.) or maybe even alarm clock ;-P :-D. I don't know what's inside Sense and what's outside (or what's possible to install free(ly) in android without Sense) and wikipedia says that all major apps are in it which I pointed out above.
There should be free conferences with possiblity of touching mods by yourself in person ;-D
From my experiences with Touch HD - yep, TouchFLO was slow, but it was also somehow better than bare WM. I used phone without, but at last, I turned it back on just because of missing convenient way to use all of the phone features. I hope not to flash a phone with something not convenient, coz flashing will scare **** out of me (no matter of a knowledge while doing), and I would prefer this situation happened only once :-D
PS. I hope that saying "sense" by you had nothing to do with proximity sensing? (or other sensors ;-) )... noob... noob... noob... :-D
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Ok, now big picture looks more clear, but one thing to ask yet - where to find a page/thread that compares functionalities of some (most decent) mods if I decide to say good bye to HTC Sense...? I think it is crucial to have a good mail client, move/sound player, calendar, messaging, dialer, sliding gui, home screen with widgets (or something at least like start screen in WM - capable of informing, having status icons/bars etc.) or maybe even alarm clock ;-P :-D. I don't know what's inside Sense and what's outside (or what's possible to install free(ly) in android without Sense) and wikipedia says that all major apps are in it which I pointed out above.
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If you flash a decent AOSP based ROM, the only functionality that you will lose is internet pass through (that is the ability to use your pc as a modem for your phone to connect to the internet) and the sense.com features but my experience and comments from others lead me to believe that sense.com is still very flaky. All other features are working as in the standard rom, granted SENSE widgets are not available but AFAIK they are all replicated by others, mainly, freely available on the market. All the examples you quote are still filled with the standard google apps, if there is any app / widget you need a definitive answer on PM me and I will have a look.
i don't know why I believe you just like that, but it's the fact ;-P :-D
Ok, to be completely sure, the interface (mean sliding, widgets and so on) is not HTC created or not part of a Sense UI? I'm digging this because on WM phone the "manila.exe" was the whole UI, not just a part of it and only way to speedup anything was to block it permanently. As far as I understood you till now, this is not the case of android UI, removing Sense will have no visible consequences as you suggests, right?
And I will ask again, anyone have a clue where can I go to see those roms in action? Pictures/videos/dunno... anything
Many thanks to you Ghostofcain
krzych said:
i don't know why I believe you just like that, but it's the fact ;-P :-D
Ok, to be completely sure, the interface (mean sliding, widgets and so on) is not HTC created or not part of a Sense UI? I'm digging this because on WM phone the "manila.exe" was the whole UI, not just a part of it and only way to speedup anything was to block it permanently. As far as I understood you till now, this is not the case of android UI, removing Sense will have no visible consequences as you suggests, right?
And I will ask again, anyone have a clue where can I go to see those roms in action? Pictures/videos/dunno... anything
Many thanks to you Ghostofcain
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Not quite, stopping SENSE will stop the SENSE widgets from functioning but a quick look in the market will let you find widgets that replicate the SENSE widgets function, and also there are many android widgets built in that do not rely on sense.
Video's
CyanogenMOD 7
LeeDroid
RCmixHD
Android Revolution HD
iOS, sorry Miui
Virtuous Fusion
Kingdom Gingersense
CoreDroid
Official Gingerbread
Comparison betwixt cm7 v Stock
Now you're my hero :-D. I'm still burried under applications (tons of it, just found VNC server which is a must for a almost-blind man as me ;-) ), but since this is almost enough what I already have, next step will be reading alot and watching alot as I see above. And those widgets are not important. Some may be even quite good, but still - the applications are what matters, even if I had only app links it would be enough with some of them, and with those more important I bet there are many substitutes maybe even better.
You're my local hero now . I hope I will have a chance to get even some day :-D
PS. Yup! I've even found "thanks" button! ;-D
No worries mate just trying to help a fellow user out, actually I was quite shocked at the lack of info on the videos that I could find on XDA, oh well that's sorted anyhow
Had leedroid earlier on my desire, but went for a aosp rom and i dont regret, its so much better.
Cyanogenmod is a very popular rom.
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Hmm, its bad. After watching those movies, I think, I really like Sense. I'm not a speed freak definitely, but I like to have nice interface with as low power consumption as possible, but not at the sake of convenience. I've not decided yet, but as far as I watched it seems that Non-Sense ( ;-) ) mods has not quite mature GUIs... I have to google more videos, but not right now.
There's a thread which points out how to save power in which the author says to install CurrentWidget to see current output and he guarantees that this CurrentWidget does not drain the energy. In the same post he claims that Sense drains much if you don't remove your HTC account. It's funny coz I still have this account (only disabled sync, but with sync enabled it's not much a difference) and checked what he said. The results were VERY funny. Sense drains less than CurrentWidget, and CurrentWidget drains MUCH more than Cellphone in a standby! :-D I think I won't listen to this thread. Am I only person who noticed such a behaviour? (just to recall everyone - still on froyo, decided not to upgrade until permroot)
I need to have an info how to _really_ discover my actual froyo before I do a mod to have real data to compare gains and loss. As far as I see even here, most of the opinions are rather not authoritative I think (coz I can proove that my phone does not match).
Anyone has the idea about really good software package (I mean few really tested applications) to log system activity, power consumption, network activity and so on? I would be really happy to know anything _for_sure_. Best would be all in one app to save cpu processing while logging things.
Anyone had issues with Google Earth resetting phone? 8-O i was shocked, reset occured to me once but as far as I remember, i did that time much suspicius things, but yesterday, Google Earth reset my phone just like that (not much apps in background, only "strange" thing was that battery had 15% which is a limit to shout on me to connect charger, but whole system was fresh and steady).
Ok, I've decided that this weekend will be the last of the original unstable software. Some apps can reset the phone, so I hope that LeeDroid will help. Why LeeDroid? I just like the way of Sense, but I will not prefer it. If LeeDroid will not be enough, I will try best without Sense, but not without tests of Gingerbread and new Sense.
The results will be described here (I mean results of flashing), and then some time will pass to evaluate and then I'll be happy or I'll be describing a new try ;-). So, wish me luck this weekend ;-P :-D
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Done. Radio S-OFF, Eng S-OFF, SuperCID, ClockworkMod. Ready to flash LeeDroid HD to check if it's what I want.
If anyone knows that there is better mod incorporating Sense 3 in more elegant, original or so, way then I would be happy to hear about it. I'm considering checking Android Revolution HD too, but I don't know that I will have time for this... (setting up everything again is a pain...), so I need opinions. Any opinions. And don't tell me that it is a matter of preferences - just strict facts like "AR has this, LD hasn't" - I can judge by myself that it's a feature or a bug ;-).
But I'm already grateful to all people that helped me to understand what I just did to my phone. Thank you all .
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Now I know, maybe it's good for other noobs, so I will say loudly what I've read or heard and is hard to find here in one place... (correct me if I'm wrong)
* Eng S-OFF is not necessary for all. It just enables USB flashing as far as I know comparing to Radio S-OFF (but both enables flashing roms).
* Radio flashing has nothing to do with call recording (if I was told correctly), it's just an upgrade for hardware, can improve few things like power consumption or range.
I still do not know how permroot was achieved (I just ran Visionary+ - it "rages" the cache - exploit, but I do not know how it achieves permroot in contrast to temproot - probably it has something to do with mounting /system r/w and changing 'something', but I'm not sure - just deducing).
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Hi again in this newbie thread. I'm not a newbie already, but I still have a problem. And if I'm not wrong, it's a bigger one. I told you already about google earth rebooting my phone. I just noticed AndroidKnight did the same and came here to recall if this was like same situation. Almost. When 3D goes mad, phone reboots...
Now... what I think and why some roms were instable... A hardware issue? Too low voltage because of faulty cpu or something? Anyone can help me diagnose this?
To be continued...
I bought my first Android device - a HTC Desire Z - about 2 months ago in China and it came with a goapk ROM. I believe it included HTC Sense 2.x functionality, but I didn't want the Chinese customisations and I also wanted root access. So after a couple of weeks I rooted it using the gfree procedure and I ended up with CM7.0.
However there is some functionality missing from CM7.0 that HTC Sense provided.
• The camera app doesn't allow manual subject selection for focussing or half press and hold of shutter button to freeze light settings. A red eye reduction flash mode would also be useful.
• I can't find a map app that provides offline map viewing.
• The default music player doesn't support wma files – but I've since resolved this issue with PowerAMP.
• I’m not sure what it was, but the keyboard that came with the goapk was pretty nice and also had Chinese character OCR.
So, I'm thinking that I'd like to try an HTC ROM with Sense but still retain root access. So I have a few general questions.
What version of HTC Sense does the latest Gingerbread ROMs on shipped-roms.com use? (I’ve just downloaded RUU_Vision_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.42.405.2_Radio_12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03_M_release_199043_signed ) Has HTC updated the shipped Desire Z ROM to Sense 3.x, or do I need to use a Virtuous Unity ROM?
Could someone briefly tell me what functional differences there are between the WWE (World Wide English), Asia and TW ROMs available at shipped-roms.com?
After having used CM7.x, is the installation procedure for an HTC shipped ROM straight forward? Anything I need to be careful about, like pre-installing a HTC bootloader or the Desire Z HBoot for example?
Can custom ROMs like Virtuous Unity be used with the HTC Sync PC application?
Thanks. Any further advice would be appreciated.
CM7 is quite buggy, I got tired of issues with GPS, wifi-calling, etc. and finally switched over to Virtuous ROMs and all of the glitches went away, they have a good sense ROM and also a good stock ROM with mild overclocking and bloatware removed called G-lite 1.03
I won't let a CM-based ROM anywhere near my phone, and most ROM's are CM7 based
and yes, all Virtuous ROMs work fine with HTC-Sync and PC communications
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CM7 is quite buggy, I got tired of issues with GPS, wifi-calling, etc. and finally switched over to Virtuous ROMs and all of the glitches went away, they have a good sense ROM and also a good stock ROM with mild overclocking and bloatware removed called G-lite 1.03
I won't let a CM-based ROM anywhere near my phone, and most ROM's are CM7 based
and yes, all Virtuous ROMs work fine with HTC-Sync and PC communications
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You just gonna bash CM7 in every thread?
OP, I'd never recommend against a ROM. I'd just advocate more for one or the other. I think if you want Sense, you're one of those people who just want Sense, and there are good options out there as far as Virtuous (and others) go. You can always try others and make ROM manager backups to switch between them too.
- As far as the Camera, that's a gripe people have (i'm not a huge camera user). Try MIUI camera, its got a big set of new features and is just an .apk you can add to AOSP ROMs.
- Google Maps lets you cache map data in a certain area. Long press on an area and you can select to download a 10mi radius of the current point. You can do this as many times as you want to cache a whole state if you'd like (it'll just take up a lot of storage room).
- I'm not sure about int'l keyboards... you'll have to look into that one. You'll probably have to install a language pack.
DON'T install a RUU or shipped ROM. that will unroot your device. You need to install a custom pre-rooted ROM, most people who want Sense like to use Virtuous. I'd also look at a few of the other options. Like I said above, you can switch around till you find what you want.
You just gonna bash CM7 in every thread?
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Yes, buggy ROMs get on my nerves, this isn't 2 weeks after the G2 was released to the public, it's more like a year or more, and a ROM ought to be mature by then, and at least do the basics without glitches. (camera, wifi calling, GPS, reception, etc.)
I am very appreciative of great work, but just like with cell phones themselves, I have no tolerance for crappy quality control (this is why I own HTC phones and not some Motorola POS)
No one ever accused me of being politically correct
WTF? said:
Yes, buggy ROMs get on my nerves, this isn't 2 weeks after the G2 was released to the public, it's more like a year or more, and a ROM ought to be mature by then, and at least do the basics without glitches. (camera, wifi calling, GPS, reception, etc.)
I am very appreciative of great work, but just like with cell phones themselves, I have no tolerance for crappy quality control (this is why I own HTC phones and not some Motorola POS)
No one ever accused me of being politically correct
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There are fixes for the "problems" that you seem to find in cm7. Changing your radio will fix ur gps, improve your signal and battery life (I get about 24 hours on a single charge). Wifi calling works fine for me, has since cm7rc1 was out. My camera is amazing, I use it to capture important moments with my children everyday (stock, miui, paper, 360, funpro... these cameras all work flawlessly for me).
I guess the problems you have are with your setup, and since your defeatist attitude has you at a brick wall, it's obvious you'll never get anywhere in the android community. If cm7 was SO buggy, why would me, my wife, my brother, my mom, 3 of my co-workers, and thousands of people around the world (all on g2/dz's) be so satisfied?
Maybe I'm biased cuz I've loved cyanogen since cm4.0.4 on the g1. I learned a lot with it back then, and I apply that knowledge when rooting/flashing/optimizing mine or anyone else's phone today. I bet you'd have complained to no end that you couldn't get a2sd working on cm4.0.4. You just need to ask politely and not troll. The answers are there.
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Thank you martonikaj,
I'll give Virtuous Unity a try.
I've also now found the modified Google Maps apps that enables caching to SD card have been posted by brut.all here and stan230 here. Any recommendation as to which of these is the best?
I'll also give the MIUI camera app a try, or possibly buy Camera ZOOM FX.
Most helpful, thank you.
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Thank you martonikaj,
I'll give Virtuous Unity a try.
I've also now found the modified Google Maps apps that enables caching to SD card have been posted by brut.all here and stan230 here. Any recommendation as to which of these is the best?
I'll also give the MIUI camera app a try, or possibly buy Camera ZOOM FX.
Most helpful, thank you.
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I wasn't aware you needed a modified Google Maps app? The stock one allows me to cache map data to my SDcard... I'm working on the latest GAPPS package , and I think Google Maps has been OTA updated probably once or twice since then.
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I've also now found the modified Google Maps apps that enables caching to SD card
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You don't need a modded Google Maps to cache to SD. Its a standard feature of Maps. In Maps, just go to Menu>More>Labs, and activate "Pre-cache map area". Then when you long press on the map, the address will popup, click on the address, and you will see the option to cache the map area.
Try using the rom ILWT cm7 it has a built in oc daemin so it saves battery and you have the latest features since he updates every important nightlie
So you should give it a try!
Stewie just said that!
GPS software with maps on card
If you are serious about GPS navigation, and you want to carry full maps and have lots of memory card space to spare, you can buy an app like Sygic GPS ( http://www.sygic.com/en/android ). Then you can use whatever roms you want.
There are other apps out there that do the same thing, but this is what I used to run, and I had no issues with it.