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How install .NET 3.5 on the HD?

Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, but a forum search revealed nothing...
How do I install .NET 3.5 on my Touch HD?
I have installed Advanced Congif , and it tells me i need to install .NET in order for it to work.
I downloaded the .net redistributable file from the MS website (filename is NETCFSetupv35.msi), but when I try to run it on my HD as I would with a .cab file, it tells me there's no associated program to run it.
I guess it has to be installed some other way (through ActiveSync maybe?), but I don't know.
Any helpful soul out there care to put me out of my misery?
Cheers in advance
Pete

Yes it has to be done through Activesync.

run it on your pc, and it will install on your device (or next time you connect if you're not connected when you run it)

It says on the microsoft download page...:
This package uses ActiveSync 4.0 to update the device. Before running NETCFSetupv35.msi, connect your device to your PC. If your device is not connected, ActiveSync will store the CAB file and will not install the package until you connect. If you are not using ActiveSync, run the CAB files on the device that correspond to the device–specific CAB files found in the install folder.
and
Instructions
Click the Download button on this page to start the download, or choose a different language from the drop-down list and click Change.
Do one of the following:
To start the installation immediately, click Open or Run this program from its current location.
To copy the download to your computer for installation at a later time, click Save or Save this program to disk.
...

Use a CAB
myearwood173 said:
Yes it has to be done through Activesync.
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I did not use ActiveSync to install it. I can't remember where I found it, but it has some kind of "Microsofts digital signature", so I think it's the right one...
Link:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/1/1983933/Microsoft_.NET_CF_3.5.CAB

Thanks!
Thanks guys,
sorted, using the .cab (couldn't work out how to do it with Activesync).

Can't install :-(
Nooo! I have a problem...
I had some trouble with .NET CF 3.5, and then I wanted to reinstall it, but when I uninstalled it, and then tried to install it again, it didn't work.
It doesn't work through ActiveSync AND the cab. Do anyone know whats wrong here, or do I need to start a new thread?

Is your ActiveSyns up to date? And did you download the file from the mircosoftsite? I reïnstalled the file yesterday..

hanjoster said:
Is your ActiveSyns up to date? And did you download the file from the mircosoftsite? I reïnstalled the file yesterday..
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My ActiveSync is okay, and the cab is from the microsoft site...
EDIT:I think something is wrong with my phone, but I don't want to do a Hard reset.

Installed no problem if you use your PC to get the CAB just pop in onto the memory card, bung it in your phone and using file explorer locate file and install onto your device. Easeeee
Even easier would be to use PIE and visit this site/thread and follow the link to download directly onto phone then do above in File Explorer
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/...NET_CF_3.5.CAB
Thanks clb92

clb92 said:
I did not use ActiveSync to install it. I can't remember where I found it, but it has some kind of "Microsofts digital signature", so I think it's the right one...
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Thank you! Worked like a charm!

.NET 3.5 cab
bro,
.NET 3.5 is available as cab for direct installation on to your phone. Copy in to your phone / storage card and install in phone memory. I have installed on my HD stock rom and works fine. Here it is .... hope this will help, this is my first response to a mail and hope what i do is right. thanks Dr Shaheed

Install only USB driver from HTCSync

Hi, here is an easy way to only install the drivers from the HTCSync package.
Double clic on setup_3.0.5579.exe (dwnld from HTC support site)
Choose the language and clic next (stop when it list the things to install: air,...)
Go to c:/user/yourname/AppData/Local/Temp
Order the files by date and choose the last folder created (so the temp folder were the files were extracted for the full package install)
Delete all *.prq except the ones for the drivers (3 files, 2 if you choose between x86 and x64)
Clic next in the HTCSync install box.
All deleted prq will be 'installed' but in fact no
Check... only drivers are installed
nb: do this if you don't have a sense ROM and don't need HTCSync of course.
Hope this will help

Just install the whole thing, then uninstall only htc sync (not drivers) from control panel. Dead easy.

Why do it simply, when you can do it complicated, huh? Sheesh...
After drivers installation, cancel instalation of Sync. Done.

Why this 'complicate' way? Because I only know 2 way to install the driver: via HTCSync install or via the Android SDK + Android driver install.
I only have a small SSD, so I want to avoid as much as possible to write files I don't want on the drive.
1 - Any install + uninstall process leaves 'unneeded' files, so I want to avoid it.
2 - HTCSync installs few things before the drivers and HTCSync (C++, Adobe AIR, don't remember exactly...),
3 - I don't need the full Android SDK install, and this is needed to download and install the google driver.
These were my main reasons.
I found questions of people who tryed to install only the ADB driver, so I thought this easy (for me) way could be helpfull for someone... sorry if I was wrong
And best of all I posted in the wrong thread
(I don't have a Desire...)

What are you talking about?

I just try to explain why I wanted to install ONLY the driver for my DHD.
I answer the questions.

That's cool, but you are still doing it the complicated way.

Yep... My initial idea was to extract the driver from the HTC package but I didn't know how to get it.
I tryed to open the exe to get the driver (with 7zip) but It fails.
Then I tryed to open the prq I had when launching the exe but before any file install... It fails again.
If you know how to extract just the drivers files from the HTC exe package I'm interested. But I don't want the install/uninstall process for the reasons I gave previously.
It could look complicate but this was the only way I found to install ONLY the drivers without anything else. Please share a better solution if you have it (and I'm quite sure there is one).

Thx! It was really helpful!

Works a treat on the latest HTC Sync v3

help
hi ! I AM GOING TO root my Pico. can I use only HTC drivers instead of HTC sync during flashing recovery ?
of course android SDK and SDK platform tools will be installed.

htc desire c drivers
hi i need htc desire c drivers my cell phone is dead but attached no pic drivers on win 7 pleez help me how can isolve my problem pleas give me any solution thanx in advance

[GUIDE]How To make your HTC Mango Rom suits Old System Apps.

HTC new drivers Mango Rom will not allow old system apps to get root access, like TouchXplorer does not work on 4.xx above roms.So these days i found a way to make my custom rom based on htc 5.10 rom work perfect with old system apps.
Step 1
get an old htc offical rom, like 1.xx, get a htc offical 4.0x rom.dump them.copy HTCFileUtility.dll and HTCRegUtility.dll from 1.xx rom dump, and HTCProvisionDrv.dll from 4.0x rom dump.(they are both in OEM\HTC_AppDrivers)
Step 2
use the three files(modules) copied above to replace your custom rom, if u are using 4.0x rom as your base skip step 3.
Step 3
replace the ApprovedlistDB.db(in OEM\CSConn_DB) by my uploaded one.
Step 4
use OSBuilder to relloc your modules, or relloc them by yourself(just like me, cause OSBuilder is hard for me to understand how to use it)
Step 5
package your custom rom, and flash it, then you will get a new rom that TouchXplorer and RegistryEditor(this works much faster than before) can work like charm
Step 6
thx DFT bring us HSPL & Julien Schapman bring us magic system tools!

remarkable，thx 4 sharing

Would be awesome if there was a way to restore the old versions in-place without re-flashing the whole phone. CAB maybe? I don't think you can overwrite ROM modules any other way. I've avoided installing the latest HTC updates because I've written a couple apps that rely on the File and Reg DLLs, but that also means I don't have things like the Connected Media app working.

GoodDayToDie said:
Would be awesome if there was a way to restore the old versions in-place without re-flashing the whole phone. CAB maybe? I don't think you can overwrite ROM modules any other way. I've avoided installing the latest HTC updates because I've written a couple apps that rely on the File and Reg DLLs, but that also means I don't have things like the Connected Media app working.
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if you can put files in \windows folder, and change reg key under HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\, you can make it works without flash a rom.
cause we could get drivers from htc orginal update cabs then rename them to put into \windows folder and change reg key to make these drivers load, no need to replace.

Well, if you care about this at all, you're already interop-unlocked.
If you're interop-unlocked, then you can set registry values and move files (using provxml).
So... yes, this sounds pretty exciting. Having the official HTC updates but still being able to use TouchXplorer would be awesome.
So, would it just be a matter of copying the old files under new names to the Windows folder and changing the "Dll" value of "HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\HTCFileUtility" and such? Or would something need to be done with the DB as well? I'm not sure if that can be changed on a running device.
Tell me what needs to be done and I'll create a tool to do it.

GoodDayToDie said:
Well, if you care about this at all, you're already interop-unlocked.
If you're interop-unlocked, then you can set registry values and move files (using provxml).
So... yes, this sounds pretty exciting. Having the official HTC updates but still being able to use TouchXplorer would be awesome.
So, would it just be a matter of copying the old files under new names to the Windows folder and changing the "Dll" value of "HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\HTCFileUtility" and such? Or would something need to be done with the DB as well? I'm not sure if that can be changed on a running device.
Tell me what needs to be done and I'll create a tool to do it.
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you are on the way, m8.
get drivers from htc update cab, then u'll get files not modules
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\HTCFileUtility]
"Dll"="HTCFileUtility_new.dll"
if you make new HTCFileUtility.dll work, you will have enough power to replace files.
then make your new reg drivers work.
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\HTCRegUtility]
"Dll"="HTCRegUtility_new.dll"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\HTCProvisionDrv]
"Dll"="HTCProvisionDrv_new.dll"

thanks for sharing, waiting for this method for along time.

Thanks ted. I'll update my backup (so I can roll back to working version if I need to) and go hunt down those files.
I don't think I'll need to overwrite HTCProvisionDrv, the current version seems to work just fine. In fact, if it doesn't, there won't be any way to do the overwrite. It's just the registry and filesystem drivers that were broken.
Now I'm wondering what the other HTC drivers do. There's a specific one for Connection Setup and for HTC YouTube, plus drivers for "HTCBgService" (a way to run tasks in the background, I assume) and "HTCVersionUtility" (probably not useful, but maybe?). It would be interesting to examine the APIs of those.
For that matter, it would be interesting to examine the API of things like the provision driver. It appears to have full permissions, but the DMXMLCOM.DLL library used to interface with it has a fairly limited API (no way to get the result of a provxml query, for example). Talking directly to the driver may work better.
Anyhow, off to find the correct CAB!

Sounds pretty awesome! New drivers in Mango with support for old apps - cool! Really hoping for a tool to do this, i've never cooked my own ROM, I solely rely on the experts for this

Hi Ted (or anybody), do you knwo where I can get the pre-Mango HTC cabs? All the cabs I've been able to find are for the Mango HTC updates, and have the wrong versions of the files.
EDIT: Found some that might work. They aren't labeled but the datestamp is from January.

Pretty sure xboxmod has a thread with all the official cabs linked somewhere on xda.
Sent from my HD7 T9292 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

Thanks. I'll see if the files I found work. They're old enough, and are supposedly from an official update, but it's hard to be sure. Their file sizes are different from the ones in the latest update, but not by much.
The real trick, of course, is seeing whether I can install my own drivers at all or not. I know I can place files and change registry values, we just have to see if the phone will use them.

ted973 said:
HTC new drivers Mango Rom will not allow old system apps to get root access, like TouchXplorer does not work on 4.xx above roms.So these days i found a way to make my custom rom based on htc 5.10 rom work perfect with old system apps.
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Any chance you would release your custom ROM? Can you make one for Trophy, only one using 5.10 version are Ansar's, your's sounds nicer!

Well, I didn't find Xboxmod's cabs, so I'm using the ones linked in Heathcliff74's thread. Unfortunately all the reliable ones are pretty recent, so I don't think they'll work. Last resort I'll try pulling them off my phone's filesystem, but that gets weird with modules.
I've successfully broken TouchXplorer and Connection Setup, and then fixed them again. I think this constitutes progress. Next step: try some older drivers, and see if I can install them without breaking anything. If so, then I'll try updating my phone with the official HTC update, and see if it's still working. If so, I'll clean up the XAP a little and publish.
EDIT: Additional discovery: Connection Setup relies on HTCFileUtility.dll. Installing the broken FileUtility driver causes Connection Setup to complain that there's no database installed on the phone, and then quit. Now I *really* wonder what HTCConnectionSetUp.dll is used for. Also, I'm not gonna touch the Provision driver unless I have to; this testing takes long enough when every step requires a reboot. If I mess up the provision driver I'll probably need to restore the phone backup.
EDIT2: The new HTCConnectionSetUp.dll driver is several times the size of the old one, but it doesn't seem to change how Connection Setup works when I use it. In particular, it still processes CustClear.provxml.
EDIT3: Still not working, even with very old drivers (January). I have a few possible ideas as to why, but it looks like I may need to run this with drivers from my "working" phone instead of from a CAB.

OK, I haven't been able to get this working with any of the DLLs I've been able to pull from CABs, and the DLL modules on the filesystem can't be moved, renamed, or read (ERROR_ACCESS_DENIED when I try to read one using ComFileRW.dll).
I either need the right CAB, the special sauce to make it work with the wrong CAB, or a way to extract those modules as files. I suspect it's at least partially a "special sauce" situation - the errors I get when I try using different drivers are not the same as the errors I get with the official update that breaks third-party apps trying to use those drivers.
I would *REALLY* appreciate some assistance with this. It has the potential to provide an easier interop-unlock (if the official update doesn't reset the driver DLL paths) and even if that doesn't work, it would be a big step forward for HTC homebrew. However, I know nothing about ROM assembly - not even how to extract a file from a shipped ROM. I'm trying to learn, but if somebody wants to point me in the right direction that would be a big help.
EDIT: I managed to extract the ROM module (took some doing; HTCRIE will crash at the drop of a hat if you aren't careful). I can't rebuild the file though - recmod doesn't seem to like it.

if you can use Provxml i have some way to replace module in \Windows dir
1.
<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="Registry">
<characteristic type="HKLM\System\Explorer\Shell Folders">
<parm name="My Ringtones" value="\Windows" datatype="string" />
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>
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copy this to notepad and save as File.Provxml file
2.Install DiagProvXMLv0.91
3.Use Chevron Ringtone Installer to copy .Provxml to your phone
4.Run DiagProvXML and go to " File Operations" tab , select Copy (to isoStore)
in Source Path use
\My Documents\My Ringtones\
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and Source File use
File.Provxml
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,,
Press (+) to save ,,
and now go to provxml tab and Press Publish (disk icon) ,,
go to iso store tab and Hold press at File and select Excute ,,
restart your phone and now you can use Chevron Ringtone installer to Add File you need to \Windows\ (sure as module , and defaultcert.dat for cab sender)
Best Regard
PPJD

@peeks20: Thanks (sort of) but your method is both overly complicated and doesn't solve the actual problem. If you're already interop-unlocked (and you have to be, to use DiagProvXML), then it's trivial to write a small app that just uses DMXMLCOM.dll to process whatever provxml commands you want. That includes copying files to the Windows directory.
The problem is that I'm not sure what file to copy, and I'm not sure it'll work even if I have the right file (I've tried multiple official files from various update CABs, and none of them have worked). There's probably either a version-matching function that's getting in the way, or a database somewhere that needs to register the new drivers (beyind just changing the path in the Dll value in the registry). Heck, maybe it's both. The point is, it doesn't work.
Now, if there's something about deploying the files using the Chevron ringtone installer instead of using pvroxml that will make all the difference, that would be cool. I really doubt it, though. The files copy just fine, and can be accessed and opened. They jut don't actually work. I get the same errors as if I point the Dll path in the registry to completely bogus paths ("Dll"="ThisFileDoesNotExist.dll").

GoodDayToDie said:
@peeks20: Thanks (sort of) but your method is both overly complicated and doesn't solve the actual problem. If you're already interop-unlocked (and you have to be, to use DiagProvXML), then it's trivial to write a small app that just uses DMXMLCOM.dll to process whatever provxml commands you want. That includes copying files to the Windows directory.
The problem is that I'm not sure what file to copy, and I'm not sure it'll work even if I have the right file (I've tried multiple official files from various update CABs, and none of them have worked). There's probably either a version-matching function that's getting in the way, or a database somewhere that needs to register the new drivers (beyind just changing the path in the Dll value in the registry). Heck, maybe it's both. The point is, it doesn't work.
Now, if there's something about deploying the files using the Chevron ringtone installer instead of using pvroxml that will make all the difference, that would be cool. I really doubt it, though. The files copy just fine, and can be accessed and opened. They jut don't actually work. I get the same errors as if I point the Dll path in the registry to completely bogus paths ("Dll"="ThisFileDoesNotExist.dll").
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i uploaded HTC Appdrivers from Mozart 1.32 & 4.06 update cabs, maybe you can continue your test

Thanks, I'll give them a try. However, I've got to ask - what is Approvedlist.db, and if you have to modify it for a custom ROM, would I also need to modify it for this app? I can't shake the feeling that there's more to installing a driver than just changing a registry value.

GoodDayToDie said:
Thanks, I'll give them a try. However, I've got to ask - what is Approvedlist.db, and if you have to modify it for a custom ROM, would I also need to modify it for this app? I can't shake the feeling that there's more to installing a driver than just changing a registry value.
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hard for me to explain this in english, this file decides which Registry keys allow apps to change.its format changed in 5.xx rom, so RegistryEditor v1.2.0.0 didn't work on these roms, we need to use old version HTCRegUtility & HTCProvisionDrv and old format ApprovedlistDB.db to make htc apps and 3rd Registry tools works perfect, that's why you need to replace ApprovedlistDB.db.

[Q] HTC Sync Manager Installer Error

Hi.. I need help with HTC Sync Manager Installation.
I just bought HTC sync manager few days back and was installing HTC Sync Manager but having error in installation.
It says:
"The files for installation requirement CheckAndRemoveOldHtcDriver could not be found. the installation will now stop. This is probably due to a failed, or canceled download."
I tried downloading setup file again, but no use.
What am I missing?
I m using WinXP service pack 2 32-bit.
Need Sync Manager for many purposes..
TIA.

Vipin_C said:
Hi.. I need help with HTC Sync Manager Installation.
I just bought HTC sync manager few days back and was installing HTC Sync Manager but having error in installation.
It says:
"The files for installation requirement CheckAndRemoveOldHtcDriver could not be found. the installation will now stop. This is probably due to a failed, or canceled download."
I tried downloading setup file again, but no use.
What am I missing?
I m using WinXP service pack 2 32-bit.
Need Sync Manager for many purposes..
TIA.
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Had the same issue too.. Any method to solve???

actually HTC Sync Manager contain all the file required for it to run, suggest to just remove those ms visual c related file and old htc sync then reinstall again

tect said:
actually HTC Sync Manager contain all the file required for it to run, suggest to just remove those ms visual c related file and old htc sync then reinstall again
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Anyone had any luck? I have been trying for avery long time but no success. Tried uninstalling the MS C related files. If i remove, it tells me MS VC Redist 2005 missing. When it is installed, it still gives the same error,

vijayendra16 said:
Anyone had any luck? I have been trying for avery long time but no success. Tried uninstalling the MS C related files. If i remove, it tells me MS VC Redist 2005 missing. When it is installed, it still gives the same error,
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Ok. No luck..googled..tried every possible thing but no luck..giving up..

possible solution
vijayendra16 said:
Ok. No luck..googled..tried every possible thing but no luck..giving up..
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This issue seems to come up again and again. I ran into this myself and discovered that in my case Threatfire was causing the problem. I had to uninstall Threatfire in order to succesfully install HTC Sync Manager. Stopping Threatfire was not enough!
Similiar issues seem to occur when using personal firewalls, in some cases deactivating the software is not enough.

[HOWTO] Easy installation of drivers needed for adb/fastboot/...

Tested on Windows 7:
- start installing HTC Sync, the software which comes with your phone (and can also be downloaded from HTC web site).
- it begins with telling you it needs to install Adobe AIR, something else, and the drivers... let it continue at that stage.
- once the previous step is done and installer asks if you want to start installation of HTC Sync software -- select [Cancel]
This way the drivers needed for adb and fastboot get installed while the rest of the (not so useful) HTC software is not installed at all.

You realize that everyone on this forum knows that, don't you?

qktb said:
Tested on Windows 7:
- start installing HTC Sync, the software which comes with your phone (and can also be downloaded from HTC web site).
- it begins with telling you it needs to install Adobe AIR, something else, and the drivers... let it continue at that stage.
- once the previous step is done and installer asks if you want to start installation of HTC Sync software -- select [Cancel]
This way the drivers needed for adb and fastboot get installed while the rest of the (not so useful) HTC software is not installed at all.
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actually ur wrong, u need different drivers for fastboot
ADB & Fastboot Guide

abaaaabbbb63 said:
You realize that everyone on this forum knows that, don't you?
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1. There is a lot of info distributed among lots of guides, signatures, stickies, etc. Probably everything has been discussed and described somewhere some time ago. Maybe I'm slow, but it took me a while to find and figure out what is needed for what. I find short posts with quick and specific answers to specific problems/challenges quite useful.
2. Keep in mind that there are people using Google search who view xda forums in the middle of some long thread with lots of comments, trouble reports, etc. Not registered users. Maybe a short brief description will help someone?
3. I knew about stand-alone driver sets or "install/uninstall HTC Sync" way of installing the drivers, but someone may save some time knowing that it is enough just to cancel the installation after pre-requisites are installed.
Still if you think this thread is useless I will not cry and have no hard feelings if it is deleted.

jmcclue said:
actually ur wrong, u need different drivers for fastboot
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For me both adb and fastboot work fine with the method described. There was nothing HTC-related installed earlier on the PC, it is a new laptop.
Edit: actually you are right and I am right (I guess): different drivers are needed and used for fastboot operation, but all of them are installed with the process described, no further action is needed when using fastboot later on. Windows just says "Installing drivers..." on the first use.