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Anyone know how to send/receive in outlook WM6 every minute? Every 5 minutes seems a bit slow.
Cheers George
Hi!
Why not to use ICQ for so frequent communication?
I have configured send\receive every 10 minutes in ¨working hours¨ and every 1 hour for ¨non working hours¨.
Sorry, ICQ??
Is there any particular reason why you'd want S/R every minute?
It would have a pretty major impact on battery life, and also potentially cost a lot more in data charges, because even if there are no messages, there would be some handshaking/polling
If immediate access to email is needed, you would be better to subscribe to an Exchange Hosted service, giving 'Push' mail, calendar and contacts. Costs about £40 per annum, plus about 4MB data per month for the connection (which is less data than 1 minute polling would use)
I didn't know it can affect battery performance. I use web n walk so data charges aren't really a factor.
I just want to receive emails quicker than every 5 minutes thats all. I don't get this direct push technology email stuff?
I have 4 imap4 accounts set up. Can i use mail2web to make these all push? I want to keep my email addresses, don't want a @mail2web address instead.
Hi all,
Do you know where is the setting in WM6, where to put the PUSH mail address? In WM5 I put there the EMAIL2SMS email address that my operator gave me, and when I receive an e-mail, the exchange server of my operator sends me this special EMAIL, that is received like SMS, that tells my phone to connect to the exchange server and to sync. No need to sync on particular time, or the connection to be always on. In WM5 this option is in ActiveSync>Menu>Schedule>(a second blue link under the "peak times" link).
I don't know I explain this right, but if you ever used this future on WM5, you should know.
efrost said:
Hi!
Why not to use ICQ for so frequent communication?
I have configured send\receive every 10 minutes in ¨working hours¨ and every 1 hour for ¨non working hours¨.
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how can you manage different configurations? i can only select one duration!
mentox said:
Hi all,
Do you know where is the setting in WM6, where to put the PUSH mail address? In WM5 I put there the EMAIL2SMS email address that my operator gave me, and when I receive an e-mail, the exchange server of my operator sends me this special EMAIL, that is received like SMS, that tells my phone to connect to the exchange server and to sync. No need to sync on particular time, or the connection to be always on. In WM5 this option is in ActiveSync>Menu>Schedule>(a second blue link under the "peak times" link).
I don't know I explain this right, but if you ever used this future on WM5, you should know.
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That is an old implemention of 'Push' email, and is not supported now that later WM5 (MSFP) and WM6 supports proper Push email direct to your inbox.
You would need to speak to your provider for more specific instructions.
macmacman said:
I didn't know it can affect battery performance. I use web n walk so data charges aren't really a factor.
I just want to receive emails quicker than every 5 minutes thats all. I don't get this direct push technology email stuff?
I have 4 imap4 accounts set up. Can i use mail2web to make these all push? I want to keep my email addresses, don't want a @mail2web address instead.
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Fair enough about the Web'n'Walk
There will be a battery hit, though I'm not sure how much.
To keep your own email addresses, you would need to pay for a Push Email subscription, and even then, I think you can only use one of your own addresses, so probably not for you.
It might be an idea to look into WebIS Flexmail. Apparently it can handle push using IMAP accounts. There is some info Here in a thread on 4WM. Towards the bottom are some posts by Alex of WebIS explaining it.
why don't you try those push services like http://live.mail2web.com/ ?
ww2250 said:
why don't you try those push services like http://live.mail2web.com/ ?
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or emoze at www.emoze.com
Hello all, does anyone know about an email service that pushes your email to your phone free?? thanks alot.
try Gmail. You can set the mobile check your mail more frequently, like push mail
truelied said:
try Gmail. You can set the mobile check your mail more frequently, like push mail
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Is it free?? and where can i download it from.... it's supposed to use only gmail right?? i was actually looking for the one that can send from multiple mail accounts....
You can use any email service like gmail that allows pop3 to check mail frequently (5-15 mins) with the built in outlook email program. No extra downloads. This is quite batter friendly.
If u want true push email, there are a few services which give you a free service. Had checked long back and don't really remember. Google Apps allows push email. You could read further on their site. It would be quite a drain on the battery to be constantly use gprs to be in touch with the email server.
Interesting post/discussion on Blackberry Vs Windows Mobile (push email)
http://www.techatplay.com/?p=482
Why not using a windows live account? With Microsoft live you can set emails to be received as they come in...
dojono said:
Why not using a windows live account? With Microsoft live you can set emails to be received as they come in...
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Is that through activesync (over the air)?
How does it affect the battery life?
Yep, I am using my Windows Live set up to sync as mail is received. It is not through AS, what would be the point??? Battery life is only minimally affected, as the mail is loaded onto your phone as it is received, rather than server being in constant sync state.
How does Windows live work?
enigma1nz said:
Yep, I am using my Windows Live set up to sync as mail is received. It is not through AS, what would be the point??? Battery life is only minimally affected, as the mail is loaded onto your phone as it is received, rather than server being in constant sync state.
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What I am not being able to understnad (and it may purely be due to my not knowing enough) is that how does the phone get to 'know' that there is new mail. As far as I understand, besides manually checking, there are three ways for a phone to get to know about it.
1) POP/IMAP: Checking with a server every "x" minutes on POP3/IMAP (normal outlook experss set to check every "x" minutes)
[Battery life would be affected depending on the "x" minutes and may be much lesser than (2) ]
2) Push Email like Sync: Polling(?) the server to check if there are any changes frequently (probably every few seconds), which produces a push email like effect.
[This may affect battery life significantly]
3) Blackberry like service: Push email via the mobile phone service provider, which may be connected to RIM servers. Where the Server will tell the phone service provider, which in turn will tell the phone about new mail (the mail can subsequently either be delivered to the phone or the phone can check from the server).
[Minimal battery usage, as there is not constant check of email/sync]
How does the phone get to know that there is new email, with Windows live?
I'm actually very curious how Windows Live's push email works too. Anybody have any clue? Searched google till the **** crew, didn't get anything.
I guess what wm does if more like "pull", it's very power consuming. I've been using this service recently, battery life's terribly affected if I choose "push" in schedule settings.
I'm using Valkyrie v7.0 23659 rom, the phone can standby for 7 days (only a few SMS everyday); but with "push mail service", only 1 day (with 30min phone call, 20 SMS and around 10 e-mails)
Hi,
Does the email client on the android device is push client,i have an yahoo acoount, i think it does not have push client.
Yeah I wish.
It seems blackberries are the only ones with PUSH from other providers. Plus the built in both GMAIL and MAIL apps confuse the **** out of me and make my desire less desirable.
Try seven beta version, its not in the market place and u need to register online but its free and its really good. Just Google seven Android.
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You need a mail client which supports IMAP idle. Most people recommend K-9 Mail.
The Gmail application supports push mail but can only be used with gmail accounts. The HTC mail application also supports push mail but only for exchange accounts, not IMAP.
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
Lennyuk said:
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
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That's hardly push is it! You still have the delay while you wait for gmail to poll the POP server. No better than using the phones mail client.
khr0n0s said:
That's hardly push is it! You still have the delay while you wait for gmail to poll the POP server. No better than using the phones mail client.
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well actually it saves you battery, gmail checks the pop roughly every 10 minutes, and your phone will only do any work when a mail is there i.e. its pushed.
if you use a normal mail client your trying to "pull every 10 minutes" it will use way way way more battery than gmail pushing the same result.
Lennyuk said:
well actually it saves you battery, gmail checks the pop roughly every 10 minutes, and your phone will only do any work when a mail is there i.e. its pushed.
if you use a normal mail client your trying to "pull every 10 minutes" it will use way way way more battery than gmail pushing the same result.
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The checking time on Google's mail fetcher service is dynamic. If you generally only receive a few mails per day then it will only check a few times per day. In Google's own words,
"Gmail checks individual accounts for new messages at different rates, depending on previous mail fetch attempts. At this time you can’t customize the frequency of automatic mail fetches."
I use POP mail and don't find any great difference in battery drain with it on or off. I understand that this could be an issue for the more battery anal though. I think the real benefit of your method is bandwidth. Polling every 5 or 10 minutes can quickly eat in to a monthly data allowance. This is significant to those who only get a few MB every month. Going through Google's push mail service is a much more bandwidth efficient method.
Lennyuk said:
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
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Yeah i have done that, and i hardly ever receive an email, before that i just check my yahoo.
I have downloaded k-9 mail, hope it does the job.
I never got on with K9 myself.
I get emails all the time with gmail handling all my accounts every 10-15 minutes, oh well each to their own.
Too bad I cannot POP my yahoo with gmail... the asia trick doesn't work anymore.
If anyone does have a method (not upgrading to mail plus ), please share it!
I just had a play with K9 and comparing it to Seven I was not impressed. Its push pull and when i delete a email on my phone it does that on my account too.
I can recommend
since yesterday i have not received a single mail on yahoo through k-9 mail, i think its just does not work, gmail app is wonderful, but transferring my yahoo on gmail doesn't work as well.
samy.3660 said:
since yesterday i have not received a single mail on yahoo through k-9 mail, i think its just does not work, gmail app is wonderful, but transferring my yahoo on gmail doesn't work as well.
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I just did some quick research on this. It looks like yahoo don't support standard IMAP IDLE. Instead they have their own custom Push IMAP protocol. You will have to use Yahoo's own mail client available from the market place to receive yahoo push email.
khr0n0s said:
I just did some quick research on this. It looks like yahoo don't support standard IMAP IDLE. Instead they have their own custom Push IMAP protocol. You will have to use Yahoo's own mail client available from the market place to receive yahoo push email.
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I don't think Yahoos Android client supports push either. I have a very seldom used Yahoo account which I set up on the device, and when I sent an email to it, the application took an age to pick it up.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
I don't think Yahoos Android client supports push either. I have a very seldom used Yahoo account which I set up on the device, and when I sent an email to it, the application took an age to pick it up.
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It sounds like yahoo mail really sucks. Gmail FTW
As title.
It isn't possible to have push email on GNEX if not using a gmail account,
this is unacceptable on a 2012 smartphone.
Please ask this feature here if you are interested in it.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=23971&thanks=23971&ts=1325771428
EDIT: Push is actually supported only for gmail and exchange, this is not enough.
sblantipodi said:
As title.
It isn't possible to have push email on GNEX if not using a gmail account,
this is unacceptable on a 2012 smartphone.
Please ask this feature here if you are interested in it.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=23971&thanks=23971&ts=1325771428
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i get push email fine from my company email.
Zepius said:
i get push email fine from my company email.
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If you are using exchange or gmail is ok, in any other case push email is not possible on gnex using the standard email client.
Your title is a bit misleading. Ice Cream Sandwich does support PUSH for exchange and hotmail in addition to gmail. IMAP Idle is not supported.
"GNEX doesn't supprt IMAP Idle. We need your voice."
I have Automatic (Push) on the standard email app for Hotmail and Gmail
sblantipodi said:
As title.
It isn't possible to have push email on GNEX if not using a gmail account,
this is unacceptable on a 2012 smartphone.
Please ask this feature here if you are interested in it.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=23971&thanks=23971&ts=1325771428
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i don't think you will get anywhere on this.
android as a OS does support PUSH notification, its all down to the software eg, gmail, k9, touchdown to utilize it.
if that software has no support for PUSH, its not android's fault.
Exchange pushed alright. Its just we don't get any notification when email arrives
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sblantipodi said:
If you are using exchange or gmail is ok, in any other case push email is not possible on gnex using the standard email client.
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just download hotmail app, or mail.com app, or yahoo app
all of them offer push mail/message notification
you just need to install them from market
is that so hard?
heck even Facebook / Twitter / etc offers push messages if you install their app
including my eBay, and PayPal and everything else
they come up faster than i get them on my PC
apratomo said:
Exchange pushed alright. Its just we don't get any notification when email arrives
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you're kidding right? i get email on my phone from exchange faster than outlook.
Zepius said:
you're kidding right? i get email on my phone from exchange faster than outlook.
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Same here.
Shows up on my phone (WITH notification) before I see it on my PC screen in Outlook (which is where I sent the test email from!)
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is that so hard?
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Probably is hard for you to understand that people who work with email generally have an email [email protected]
this means that you have no yahoo and gmail options.
sblantipodi said:
Probably is hard for you to understand that people who work with email generally have an email [email protected]
this means that you have no yahoo and gmail options.
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so now you're backpeddling?
sblantipodi said:
Probably is hard for you to understand that people who work with email generally have an email [email protected]
this means that you have no yahoo and gmail options.
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And it is probably hard for YOU to understand that if you spend five minutes you can add ANY email account to your gmail account and receive push notifications for it. But you know I guess you're always right and everyone else is always wrong.
How are those batteries treating you?
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so now you're backpeddling?
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No I'm saying that ICS supports Push Email for gmail,yahoo,exchange only, this means that ICS doesn't support Push Email but that it support it only for limited email services, too few I add.
joshnichols189 said:
And it is probably hard for YOU to understand that if you spend five minutes you can add ANY email account to your gmail account and receive push notifications for it. But you know I guess you're always right and everyone else is always wrong.
How are those batteries treating you?
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You are always kiddy
If you work for a company with some email services, you obviously don't want to leave gmail to manage your emails.
In this case the gmail fetcher feature uses POP and not IMAP so it can't be considered push email. Study more before complaining about me please
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No I'm saying that ICS supports Push Email for gmail,yahoo,exchange only, this means that ICS doesn't support Push Email but that it support it only for limited email services, too few I add.
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What is your definition of push? Corporate works. Gmail works. Yahoo works. IMAP works. I'm not sure what other kind of "push" technology you're referring to. Other than that, POP3 is just POP3. Google can't help what technologies other email providers offer.
I think there's a huge disconnect between you and the rest of us right now, so could you elaborate?
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What is your definition of push? Corporate works. Gmail works. Yahoo works. IMAP works. I'm not sure what other kind of "push" technology you're referring to. Other than that, POP3 is just POP3. Google can't help what technologies other email providers offer.
I think there's a huge disconnect between you and the rest of us right now, so could you elaborate?
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This. If it's a POP3 email box/service you can't "use" Push with it. There's nothing to push.
x2breakoffate said:
What is your definition of push? Corporate works. Gmail works. Yahoo works. IMAP works. I'm not sure what other kind of "push" technology you're referring to. Other than that, POP3 is just POP3. Google can't help what technologies other email providers offer.
I think there's a huge disconnect between you and the rest of us right now, so could you elaborate?
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The huge disconnect is because most people here don't know what push email/IMAP idle is.
Push email means that your client/server connection remains in idle, no need to connect every X minutes to check for a new email since the connection is never lost.
With PUSH email (called IMAP Idle for most email provider) you is notified on new email in real time, this saves battery also because the connection remains in idle and there is no need to create a new handshake every time.
PUSH email isn't possible with POP account but this days every email provider supports both POP and IMAP.
With ICS and previous android there is no way to do IMAP idle with a standard email since this feature is supported in gmail client only.
Do you realize that you don't need to use the factory email program to check email? There are plenty of free options in the Market (as well as SMS, dialers, etc) to replace any app you do not like.
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Do you realize that you don't need to use the factory email program to check email? There are plenty of free options in the Market (as well as SMS, dialers, etc) to replace any app you do not like.
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can you give me an example of a great app that supports push email and that have a good HTML support please?
I am doing what I can to conserve battery. I just got my S3 last night. I installed K9 because that is what I used on my previous Droids. I checked my battery info this morning and K9 is like 19%. I have it checking every 10 mins for new mail. Any of you know if the native app is push and does it draw off the battery as much?
Thanks!
Why every ten minutes, particularly when you (apparently) have the option of push?
I've never seen K9, properly configured (I normally use push), take more than 2-3% of battery use, even in e-mail-intense scenarios.
cause the option is there that says frequency with a time limit. I have to select something. Push isn't there.
I suppose it's possible that your mail provider doesn't support push (who is your mail provider?), but the frequency check isn't where the push setting is supposed to be. Look under Advanced in account settings for push settings; if that's set up properly (you will be able to see a "Push" next to the last time a mail folder was checked if so), you can disable normal polling altogether.
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I suppose it's possible that your mail provider doesn't support push (who is your mail provider?), but the frequency check isn't where the push setting is supposed to be. Look under Advanced in account settings for push settings; if that's set up properly (you will be able to see a "Push" next to the last time a mail folder was checked if so), you can disable normal polling altogether.
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Hmmm, so I just switched it to never and sent myself a test email to see if it comes in. That would be great if it works that way.
whats wrong with Google Gmail apps? its works great and wonderfully.
I have used k9 fit about a year and a half, generally have it at 30 minute poll interval but usually manually check for new mail about every 10. I get between 50 and 200 emails a day and k9 is never even close to showing up in the top 10 of my battery stats. Occasionally it will bug out and drain (about one a month or so) but a test cures this.
I would try to uninstall and reinstall if you are having regular issues with it. I have nothing but good things to say about this client, far better than any other i have tried.
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I am doing what I can to conserve battery. I just got my S3 last night. I installed K9 because that is what I used on my previous Droids. I checked my battery info this morning and K9 is like 19%. I have it checking every 10 mins for new mail. Any of you know if the native app is push and does it draw off the battery as much?
Thanks!
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I use K-9 with 2 imap accounts + gmail app and I can easily make 2 days on one charge.
I get the emails as soon as the server received them.
Are you using a pop account ?
xxlikquidxx said:
whats wrong with Google Gmail apps? its works great and wonderfully.
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How to you get it to work wonderfully with non-Gmail accounts? I have a non-Gmail IMAP account for work. As far as I can tell, the only way to use Gmail for this account is set up POP acesss to the account in Gmail. Using that approach, I get unacceptably long and and unpredictable delays in getting mail (typically a half hour to an hour). That doesn't work for me, which is unfornate because the stock emai app is utter crap.
GeorgeP said:
How to you get it to work wonderfully with non-Gmail accounts? I have a non-Gmail IMAP account for work. As far as I can tell, the only way to use Gmail for this account is set up POP acesss to the account in Gmail. Using that approach, I get unacceptably long and and unpredictable delays in getting mail (typically a half hour to an hour). That doesn't work for me, which is unfornate because the stock emai app is utter crap.
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Gmail app is only meant to receive mail from gmail. What people are talking about here only applies if you are using gmail. Afaik push is kind of supported on IMAP. Use the stock email app or k-9 to set it up that way.
Yes. I was trying to answer liquid's question about what us wrong with Gmail. The stock Samsung email does not support push (imap idle). I use Kaiten, which works pretty well.
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Yes. I was trying to answer liquid's question about what us wrong with Gmail. The stock Samsung email does not support push (imap idle). I use Kaiten, which works pretty well.
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Kaiten is on my list.. I definitely want to check it out, but just havent spent the $5 yet.
I'm on aokp jb. GPS on, Bluetooth always on. Always in 4g not lte. With Google including gmail etc to sync whenever gmail and calendar and that stuff does. Plus aokp lock screen weather and fancy widgets weather. I see a drain of about .75% an hour. The only time my battery drains is the moment I turn on the screen. I've noticed this with all android devices and too many people care about push and stuff. It doesn't make a difference IMO. Been on android since the g1 came out.
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I use k-9 with 2 POP accounts, one every 10 min and the other every 6 hours. After running the whole day it doesn't even show up in my battery list. The lowest one is media server at 1m 20s of CPU time and 2% of battery usage.
Low email volume today on those accounts so that's part of it, but I've never thought it was much of a drain. Once in a while I'll see it in the battery list, but I see the Gmail app in there more often.