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Preventing data connection

I've just received my Desire, and have asked O2 for a new data plan (I used to be on Blackberry). That won't go through until midnight today, and they will charge me £3 mer MB with NO LIMIT until then! So, I need a way to turn data off (apart from WIFI) as soon as I turn the phone on (it's currently charging). I've read some reports of people turning it off, but certain apps turn it on again.
What's the simplest way to do this please, until tomorrow? Thanks!

Hold down the power button until the menu comes up then turn off mobile network.

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Hold down the power button until the menu comes up then turn off mobile network.
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Ok great, thanks. Yea now I've turned it on, it's pretty obvious.
Is there any chance of an app turning it on again without my knowledge? In some forums people say it can happen, but I THINK that may have been with WinMo.

Zackarydoo said:
Ok great, thanks. Yea now I've turned it on, it's pretty obvious.
Is there any chance of an app turning it on again without my knowledge? In some forums people say it can happen, but I THINK that may have been with WinMo.
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I've heard of it in the past but not on 2.1, a rogue application maybe but they shouldn't do. It would be pretty easy to notice if you were out of wifi range though as the data icon would appear in the notification bar, your best bet would be to just check on it if you install any app that mentions data in it's software permissions.

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I've heard of it in the past but not on 2.1, a rogue application maybe but they shouldn't do. It would be pretty easy to notice if you were out of wifi range though as the data icon would appear in the notification bar, your best bet would be to just check on it if you install any app that mentions data in it's software permissions.
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Ok I'll do that. I'll also look for an app that'll show me data usage. I know there are some around.
Thanks for your help.

I'm in the same position as you (but my data plan doesn't go live till the 26th! lol), so I set up the phone to WiFi only thanks to the option on the setting screen, and so far it has only connected when I switched on the data toggle. I'll post here if I come across any apps that will connect though.
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dpk said:
I'm in the same position as you (but my data plan doesn't go live till the 26th! lol), so I set up the phone to WiFi only thanks to the option on the setting screen, and so far it has only connected when I switched on the data toggle. I'll post here if I come across any apps that will connect though.
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I've installed a program called NetCounter. It doesn't seem to count Wifi with the Desire (others have had the same problem), but for you and I that doesn't matter. I've got it set to alert me if 'somehow' the phone starts using data from O2. So it's just an extra safeguard. Sorry you have to put up with that until the 26!

I have the same question and I was told APNDroid does it too. Is it better to use APNDroid or the bult-in option?

I'm in the same position as you (but my data plan doesn't go live till the 26th! lol), so I set up the phone to WiFi only thanks to the option on the
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I've installed a program called NetCounter. It doesn't seem to count Wifi with the Desire (others have had the same problem), but for you and I that doesn't matter. I've got it set to alert me if 'somehow' the phone starts using data from O2. So it's just an extra safeguard. Sorry you have to put up with that until the 26!
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I'm using data counter widget, seems to work pretty well, plus its a big help having it always on one of my homescreens. Yeah its gonna hurt lol, luckily for the first week I'm at home so I got WiFi, but not looking forward to the 2nd one lol
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EroThraX said:
Hold down the power button until the menu comes up then turn off mobile network.
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Just add the widgets for network data, GPS, Wifi to the home screen (I've stuck mine under the clock) easy to turn on and off with single keys presses then rather than holding the power button down. I've also added the bluetooth shortcut but that takes a massive 2 key presses to turn on or off. I've found it useful for saving battery life as well.

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Just add the widgets for network data, GPS, Wifi to the home screen (I've stuck mine under the clock) easy to turn on and off with single keys presses then rather than holding the power button down. I've also added the bluetooth shortcut but that takes a massive 2 key presses to turn on or off. I've found it useful for saving battery life as well.
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He wanted the quickest way after turning it on, holding the power button is quicker than finding and adding those widgets for the first time.

LED Notification flash - Not working?

I haven't fully tested this issue yet mainly because I've only had the phone for a few days... I wanted to check if anyone else had this problem.
Under Settings -> Sound & Display -> Notification Flash
I have all the options ticked.
In theory, whenever I have a missed call or a SMS or email etc, I should be able to tell that I need to check my phone be a little blinking light in the top right corner off the screen. I just came back to my phone and this LED wasn't blinking but when I turned on the phone, there was a missed call and a SMS.
Other times, it seemed to work fine.
Anyone else noticed this problem?

it only flashes for 5 mins and then stops. There is no way to change this without additional apps.
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Oh... How disappointing. Pretty useless imo. Thanks for the info. I wonder if they will fix it. My previous phone, Touch Diamond, had something similar but it never stopped flashing until you looked at your missed calls.

Now that explains things. I tend to look for the led after I've not used the phone for a while. In my pocket or elsewhere. Quite a few times I've seen no flashing but have a notification in the top left. I thought it was another one of those little 'features' we keep finding.

Yeh i discovered this awhile back and it's annoying as hell, i just use a app called Missed Reminder which can be configured to allowed it to keep flashing indefinitely

I was just going to make a post about this. I thought the LED notification wasn't working at all on my Desire, since I've never seen it, but perhaps it had just stopped before I had the chance to catch it, then

ardsar said:
it only flashes for 5 mins and then stops. There is no way to change this without additional apps.
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What apps are you referring to? It would be nice to be able to have the LED flash longer.

I'm guessing this is to save battery time, I don't know how much power a small LED uses but it surely can't help with the already abysmal battery life

I first thought the LED was located behind the optical trackpad, because the trackball on my Hero could light up. I think the LED-notification is pretty dumb since it's almost invisible when it lights up. The lighting trackball was much much better

This is a known issue. I thought that did not happen in Android, but I guess I was wrong.
If the phone work in Windows Mobile, there are a registry key to let assign values to the options, so they are usable.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4846399#post4846399
In Android, I have no clue... maybe my info help in any way.
PMoto

It would be nice to be able to change the flash time from the default 5 minutes, or atleast an option for no time limit.
I know it's to help save battery life, but I'm willing to say that the light flashing will use less battery then the back light coming on everytime I'm away from my phone for more then 5 minutes, from me checking to see if I have new messages, email, or missed phone calls.

Same issue with my recently purchased A40.
No blinking at all despite screen flash notification selected.
Hope someone can help

WiFi goes to sleep when phone is locked

So after the screen goes off, the wifi automatically goes to sleep hence making those apps which can send toast/tile notifications like Flory and various twitter apps practically useless. Any work around?

Keep it plugged in.

Um...you just realized that? It puts wifi on standby (basically turns it off) when it goes to sleep, unless you are charging, in which case, the wifi remains connected. Data, on the other hand, does not have this problem, and will persist, despite the phone going to sleep/lockscreen.

I would also like a workaround for this... I don't own a data plan, and I'm pretty much always near some wifi connection...
thanks!

There is no work around. It is a 'feature' by design so that you won't ended up with a battery drained phone. Your only hope is complain loudly to Microsoft.

foxbat121 said:
There is no work around. It is a 'feature' by design so that you won't ended up with a battery drained phone. Your only hope is complain loudly to Microsoft.
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As usual with WP7, MS is taking "don't give a choice to the user" approach... I hope this and other small things get fixed sooner or later... like the stupid camera shutter sound!

kapanak said:
Um...you just realized that? It puts wifi on standby (basically turns it off) when it goes to sleep, unless you are charging, in which case, the wifi remains connected. Data, on the other hand, does not have this problem, and will persist, despite the phone going to sleep/lockscreen.
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Well if you're connected to WiFi but its in sleep mode, data doesnt just turn on. It will for some things, but I found out that for some games that have push notifications, they just dont happen in that situation. The 3g stays sleeping with the WiFi. I only get emails in this situation.
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As usual with WP7, MS is taking "don't give a choice to the user" approach... I hope this and other small things get fixed sooner or later... like the stupid camera shutter sound!
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I thought the shutter sound was become of some law saying you have to have it on. Weird thing though, that law ain't in the US...I read that sht on cracked where they were talking about countries saying you have to leave the shutter sound on and that's to prevent people from getting away with sticking their phone under a girls skirt and taking a picture. Normally I'd be like "man, cracked is just making stuff up again" but I've been following that site for 3 years and read everything and can tell the joke articles from the legit ones.

And they probably dont have that many options because they dont want to see a lot of people complaining about battery life. Because if you google anything android related, you'll get a bunch of battery life threads and complaint. so they are just defaulting settings that offer the best battery life and they are getting rid of the option to change those settings. that way nobody can post a bunch of threads complaining about battery life and by that not happening, when you search anything windows mobile related you'll see more threads about its features than bad battery life.
And yes, if WiFi never slept, it would be using more power than the disconnected 3G option it defaults to.

having wifi turn off automatically completely defeats the purpose of background notifications for apps like twitter/facebook or any other IM since there wont be any wifi connection for them to use if the phone is in sleep mode. Not everyone has unlimited cellular data. This is just really stupid.

ammarmalik said:
having wifi turn off automatically completely defeats the purpose of background notifications for apps like twitter/facebook or any other IM since there wont be any wifi connection for them to use if the phone is in sleep mode. Not everyone has unlimited cellular data. This is just really stupid.
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If those background notification use that much of data, they are not designed properly. For comparison, my son's Focus is on 200mb/month data plan and he never exceeds the data limit.
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maybe they should have an option to change it - but it should default to the current settings as only a handfull of people won't have a data plan.

ms79723 said:
I thought the shutter sound was become of some law saying you have to have it on. Weird thing though, that law ain't in the US...I read that sht on cracked where they were talking about countries saying you have to leave the shutter sound on and that's to prevent people from getting away with sticking their phone under a girls skirt and taking a picture. Normally I'd be like "man, cracked is just making stuff up again" but I've been following that site for 3 years and read everything and can tell the joke articles from the legit ones.
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Wow, that's just weird. How come so many compact digital cameras can have the shutter sound removed then? It doesn't really make sense... anyway, I saw in the Reg Tricks topic a way to turn it off, will probably do after I get the NoDo (in a year maybe? hehehe)
Back to topic: sure the default should be the same as it is now, but give me the option to change it, and when I select it, give me a big warning telling me that this will destroy my battery life. Then I know what to expect (ok, I would already know, but many people wouldn't...)

banvetor said:
Wow, that's just weird. How come so many compact digital cameras can have the shutter sound removed then? It doesn't really make sense... anyway, I saw in the Reg Tricks topic a way to turn it off, will probably do after I get the NoDo (in a year maybe? hehehe)
Back to topic: sure the default should be the same as it is now, but give me the option to change it, and when I select it, give me a big warning telling me that this will destroy my battery life. Then I know what to expect (ok, I would already know, but many people wouldn't...)
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Found the article. Had to go back and look for it because after my last post I thought I made it up but I was right haha. And it seems to say just cellphones. I imagine it would be really hard trying to stick a camera under someone's skirt...so they just leave the option to remove that sound there...iunno

banvetor said:
Wow, that's just weird. How come so many compact digital cameras can have the shutter sound removed then? It doesn't really make sense... anyway, I saw in the Reg Tricks topic a way to turn it off, will probably do after I get the NoDo (in a year maybe? hehehe)
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what's weird is that my HD7 doesn't make the shutter sound when i turn the volume all the way down to 0
also, topic related, my ipod touch stays connected to wifi 24/7 sleep or no sleep... i think that feature came with iOS 4 though??

Your iPod Thouch doesn't have any other means to go online. Your phone does.

ms79723 said:
And they probably dont have that many options because they dont want to see a lot of people complaining about battery life. Because if you google anything android related, you'll get a bunch of battery life threads and complaint. so they are just defaulting settings that offer the best battery life and they are getting rid of the option to change those settings. that way nobody can post a bunch of threads complaining about battery life and by that not happening, when you search anything windows mobile related you'll see more threads about its features than bad battery life.
And yes, if WiFi never slept, it would be using more power than the disconnected 3G option it defaults to.
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Yep, cause changing the default search in IE from Google to Bing, where it should be, will certainly degrade my battery life.
The options are there because Microsoft have no clue what they're doing.
I'm willing to bet most of the people who worked on Windows Mobile are gone and these people working on WP7 are utterly clueless.
They're certainly disconnected form their customer base... completely...

N8ter said:
Yep, cause changing the default search in IE from Google to Bing, where it should be, will certainly degrade my battery life.
The options are there because Microsoft have no clue what they're doing.
I'm willing to bet most of the people who worked on Windows Mobile are gone and these people working on WP7 are utterly clueless.
They're certainly disconnected form their customer base... completely...
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you mean the customer base that was running away from winmo in droves and led to a less than 3% marketshare???
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Hello all,
Does anybody know if this problem has a solution with the NoDo update (presumably, NoDo comes with "wifi improvements")? I tried WP7 for a while and this was the failure that made me switch back to Android (I work in lots of basements; no GSM signal, but Wifi aplenty).
Thanks!

linj said:
Does anybody know if this problem has a solution with the NoDo update
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It's not a problem - it's a "feature". Features don't get fixed.

radeon_x said:
It's not a problem - it's a "feature". Features don't get fixed.
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Fantastic... Normally, though, that's true for "bugs," not "problems."
Well, I was unable to find any information one way or the other; this seems a lesser priority for many users. If anybody in the thread has updated, please let us know!

Missing Features ?

Had the phone a few days now and aside from the volume issues which I hope will be solved I have three other issues.
Can someone confirm 100% that there is no FM Radio - I'm 99.9% sure but I've seen threads from other people saying the radio quality is good.
No Self-Timer on the camera - I went to take a photo the other day and went to set the timer so I could be in it and there isn't one.
I can't seem to find anywhere to set the email sync frequency times (i.e. so it doesn't send email notifications in the middle of the night.
I've come from an HTC Desire HD and all of these features were standard so a little annoyed if they're all gone.

Were you running a stock HTC sense ROM?
I assume the camera additions were HTC's camera?
I thought stock Android used push notifications rather than polling and pulling every 5 minutes?? Maybe what you had was another HTC Sense feature?

Everything was standard out of the box, unlocked.
I know the Galaxy S2 has a self timer, also a radio, not sure about the email settings part though. I can set how often on the Nexus to pull from 5 minutes to 1 hour - but can't see any option of muting (off peak mode) it through the night so I don't get woken up every 10 minutes (business emails +100 a day)

I can confirm 100% there IS no FM radio on my Galaxy Nexus

The HTC Sense skin, in the same way that Samsung's TouchWiz does, adds lots of custom functionality on top of standard ASOP Android.
Maybe there are some apps out there to replicate what your Sense stuff used to do?
So to answer your thread title....... they aren't "missing features"...... its because you aren't running a HTC Sense ROM.

zarch1972 said:
The HTC Sense skin, in the same way that Samsung's TouchWiz does, adds lots of custom functionality on top of standard ASOP Android.
Maybe there are some apps out there to replicate what your Sense stuff used to do?
So to answer your thread title....... they aren't "missing features"...... its because you aren't running a HTC Sense ROM.
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I disagree I'd still say they are missing features, If they were present in AOSP there'd be no need for HTC & Samsung et al to add them. Having a timer in the camera app is pretty basic functionality that should really be present as standard.

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I disagree I'd still say they are missing features, If they were present in AOSP there'd be no need for HTC & Samsung et al to add them. Having a timer in the camera app is pretty basic functionality that should really be present as standard.
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i also disagree on your statement,
so now the AOSP camera version has time laps video option, and video effects (change you faces while recording video),
do you then call this missing features for the rest of the phones?

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i also disagree on your statement,
so now the AOSP camera version has time laps video option, and video effects (change you faces while recording video),
do you then call this missing features for the rest of the phones?
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I understand what you're saying but to me a self-timer is a basic function that's found on most phones I've come across - the other effects are nice but in my mind not as essential as a timer.

I disagree with that. YOU look for those features. I currently been through 5 devices in the past few months that don't have your "missing" features. They are missing to YOU, but THEY are not standard features. I'd say only 10% at best of all the phones out there have those features so it's far standard(note: I do not know the exact %, but it has to be less than 20%)
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stiffn said:
I can't seem to find anywhere to set the email sync frequency times (i.e. so it doesn't send email notifications in the middle of the night.
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Android tends doesn't notify in the middle of the night.. I'm not exactly sure how it does it but I sleep right next to a tablet and a phone both of which beep merrily during the day but I never get a peep out of them overnight.

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I can't seem to find anywhere to set the email sync frequency times (i.e. so it doesn't send email notifications in the middle of the night.
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What you're asking for and 'sync frequency' are 2 different things. You're looking for something to silence notifications at night; sync frequency is how often the phone pulls new data down for your accounts.
The name is slipping my mind right now (will update if I find it!), but there are definitely apps in the market that silence the phone for different intervals, such as over night. ROMs like CM7 have this built in as "quiet hours". You can choose to silence notifications but not alarms or phone calls, etc.
Check out Sweet Dreams. Think it'll do what you want.
Could also look at Bedside (Night Clock). It has a "white list" to block some notifications and not others.
The app Tasker is a bit overkill for just this (unless you use for other things too), but it'll do what you're asking.

TonyHoyle said:
Android tends doesn't notify in the middle of the night.. I'm not exactly sure how it does it but I sleep right next to a tablet and a phone both of which beep merrily during the day but I never get a peep out of them overnight.
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That's probably because you are a heavy sleeper mate. Also people send out less emails and texts at night.
Anyway there are certain apps you can use to either change your sound profiles at certain times, or to disable data syncing. Personally I use Juice Defender to turn off data at night when I'm not using the phone. I don't have to set silent mode at night cause I am a heavy sleeper too and phone beeps don't wake me up.
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Tidbits said:
I disagree with that. YOU look for those features. I currently been through 5 devices in the past few months that don't have your "missing" features. They are missing to YOU, but THEY are not standard features. I'd say only 10% at best of all the phones out there have those features so it's far standard(note: I do not know the exact %, but it has to be less than 20%)
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I'd be surprised if only 10% of new camera phones had a self-timer function. It's a bit like saying a flash for the camera shouldn't be standard as they never existed on the first camera phones but you'd sure as heck kick up a stink if a new phone was released without a flash for the camera wouldn't you ? Or how about a car with manual locking instead of central locking. Surely with a phone of this caliber a self-timer isn't exactly a special feature.

TonyHoyle said:
Android tends doesn't notify in the middle of the night.. I'm not exactly sure how it does it but I sleep right next to a tablet and a phone both of which beep merrily during the day but I never get a peep out of them overnight.
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Yeah that's exactly what I'm finding, I'm not receiving emails after a certain time on my phone. I work with a lot of companies in the US and I'm in the UK so I do many late nights and I want to be able to set when emails arrive or don't on my phone, not when they think I should be sleeping or awake otherwise I end up sitting with my phone and laptop both out if I'm expecting an important mail to arrive rather than relaxing in bed with the phone by my side, and even a manual refresh doesn't bring the mails down after a certain time.

stiffn said:
Had the phone a few days now and aside from the volume issues which I hope will be solved I have three other issues.
Can someone confirm 100% that there is no FM Radio - I'm 99.9% sure but I've seen threads from other people saying the radio quality is good.
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I don't have my GN yet, so I can only comment on your first question: I'm pretty sure, if people talk about radio quality, they mean either the quality of mobile signal reception or the sound/speech quality of incoming and outgoing calls. Radio quality most definitely doesn't refer to an actual FM Radio.
So to make a long story short: There's no FM Radio in the GN.

Browser Dimming
I know on thing that I will not miss coming from SGSII is the auto-dimming in the browser.. I have turned off all power-management tools (I think?!) but yet on the SII, anytime I tried using the browser, autodim!
Can anyone with a GN confirm that this "feature" is gone?
thanks!

TonyHoyle said:
Android tends doesn't notify in the middle of the night.. I'm not exactly sure how it does it but I sleep right next to a tablet and a phone both of which beep merrily during the day but I never get a peep out of them overnight.
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There is an overnight mode (sleep hours).
Its not in Gmail its in, the settings under notifications somewhere.
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pjmurphy77 said:
I know on thing that I will not miss coming from SGSII is the auto-dimming in the browser.. I have turned off all power-management tools (I think?!) but yet on the SII, anytime I tried using the browser, autodim!
Can anyone with a GN confirm that this "feature" is gone?
thanks!
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It still dims, but if you go into settings > display, you can change the sleep time to like 10 minutes and it won't dim for ages.
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NatTheCat said:
There is an overnight mode (sleep hours).
Its not in Gmail its in, the settings under notifications somewhere.
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I think that's a Cyanogenmod setting, not stock Android. Not that I can find anyway.
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Thanks for the quick reply.. just to confirm, I'm not referring to the overall system settings of the display but specifically (on Samsungs) the auto-dimming of the browser.

[REQUEST] Smart Actions, <3

Any devs want to try porting Smart Actions from the RAZR to our beloved GN <3 ?
I purchased Tasker but it's just not quite the same.
I'm sure a lot of people would be pretty excited to have the app on the nexus; it's a pretty f***in sweet app ;p

bump .. nobody? not even curious or considering trying.. or have any thoughts on the matter ? This really is an amazing app ...

Try Tasker
EDIT: Nvm, just read the full post

swapnil said:
Try Tasker
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well, least you tried ;p
and i saw you had 0 thanks.. not that it matters, but there ya go XD effort is appreciated

Ha! My first thanks, haha. Didn't really deserve it though..
I thought Tasker had more features than SmartActions. From what I've seen though SmartActions is more intuitive and user friendly. Is that why you prefer it?

swapnil said:
Ha! My first thanks, haha. Didn't really deserve it though..
I thought Tasker had more features than SmartActions. From what I've seen though SmartActions is more intuitive and user friendly. Is that why you prefer it?
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Many reasons, and the community have asked for Smart Actions on various devices a lot.

so what is the difference between the 2??

Look into Locale. A lot of the plugins are cross-compatible. It's a slightly different mindset (one that I actually prefer), and IMO the interface is more intuitive. Tasker profiles seem to be more event based (e.g. triggered when I connect to wifi) whereas Locale is more state based (e.g. triggered while I'm connected to wifi).

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Look into Locale. A lot of the plugins are cross-compatible. It's a slightly different mindset (one that I actually prefer), and IMO the interface is more intuitive. Tasker profiles seem to be more event based (e.g. triggered when I connect to wifi) whereas Locale is more state based (e.g. triggered while I'm connected to wifi).
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Heard of it, dunno why I haven't looked into it yet..hm
Thanks, will check it out for sure
Tasker is a massive pain in the ass lol
Edit: Gonna stick with Tasker for now, Locale seems to be too basic (lacks a lot of functions/conditions)
SmartActions .. really jelly of the RAZR for that one thing lol

anyone tried Llama? Still my favourite...

There's also Settings Profiles … it supports Locale-plugins for some weeks now.

last shot at this before I let the thread fade away
...Any word on the possibility of a SmartActions port
thanks.

I too would be interested in smart actions.
I've tried llama, juice defender, and a couple other similar ones. I want rules like when my home wifi gets disconnected, turn on BT (to work in the car), turn off wifi to save power. Once I'm at work turn off BT, and turn wifi back on. The issue I have is llama isn't accurate enough. By the time it triggers I'm half way to work because of the cell tower distances.

Im looking into this as well. I've tried tasker and Im not willing to shell out more money for apps that probably wont work.
I want a few things:
When Im home I want wifi to automatically turn off, when I leave home I want it to turn off.
When I am home I want 3/4g to switch to 2g, and back to 3g/4g when I leave home.
Also want gps to turn on, on its own when I launch mapsm/nav/places.
Any ideas??

Tasker has failed me on more than one occasion and it's just too unreliable to use daily.
Seriously is it that hard to port over an app?

Why don't you just use tasker, you can do almost anything with it. Smart Actions is extremely limiting. Anyone who roots their phone and is truly a power user uses tasker.
If you would like i can make you some profiles.

dandyd449 said:
Why don't you just use tasker, you can do almost anything with it. Smart Actions is extremely limiting. Anyone who roots their phone and is truly a power user uses tasker.
If you would like i can make you some profiles.
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That'd be cool
But I've set up a few profiles and sometimes my mobile data wouldnt be turned back on, or my brightness, or sync..etc ... and i wouldnt notice until the next day...
Thats not good..

You might need to set up exit actions? When the task finishes it runs an action on exit. ie turn back on your data after the time period is over.

dandyd449 said:
You might need to set up exit actions? When the task finishes it runs an action on exit. ie turn back on your data after the time period is over.
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Yeah, I did.. thats what I meant.. sometimes, the exit action wouldn't be activated and so I would be stuck on Data-off or sync-off .. etc

weird, cant say ive ever heard of or had that problem unless maybe you disabled the notification icon at which point the OS might kill it.