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Nope. There's is not update for older phones because of strict hardware requirements. To Get WP7 you'll need the new device.
krjcook said:
Nope. There's is not update for older phones because of strict hardware requirements. To Get WP7 you'll need the new device.
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Okay
But, iv'e seen the 6.5.3 (?) on many videos and stuff, will it be available for my phone (Samsung Omnia Lite)? And in that case, when?
not neccessarily true. i read that samsungs newest phones, which I dont think are even out yet, come with 6.5 but are designed with all the hardware buttons and specs to be upgradable to 7.
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not neccessarily true. i read that samsungs newest phones, which I dont think are even out yet, come with 6.5 but are designed with all the hardware buttons and specs to be upgradable to 7.
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okay, so will my phone get Windows 7 :S ? Or can I upgrade it to 6.5.3? Sorry, but I dont know a sh*t about this ^^
The only phone to receive the WP7 update is the HTC HD2
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The only phone to receive the WP7 update is the HTC HD2
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No.. it has announced that the HD2 is NOT going to be updates to WP7, due to the lack of a physical camera button and 5 instead of 3 front facing buttons..
There is no phone currently on the market that will get an upgrade to WP7. It is possible that some new models released between now and the release of WP7 might - but I would say it's unlikely. For example, any phone that can take a removal memory card definitely won't.
I heard the HTC Touch Diamond will receive an update to WP7 because it comes with internal memory instead of SD card slot! There's already a dump of the TD WP7 ROM leaked by a guy from China.
RAMMANN said:
I heard the HTC Touch Diamond will receive an update to WP7 because it comes with internal memory instead of SD card slot! There's already a dump of the TD WP7 ROM leaked by a guy from China.
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Did you happen to notice that it doesn't have any other requirement? 800x480 resolution, 1GHz Processor, 8GB Internal Storage, Start Back and Search Buttons? It's not getting an update.
6.5 upgrade to 7 on HD2?
hey guys,
so in which place can i see that windows said they will not upgrade the HD2? i do not have one yet but TMO has a buy one get one free deal down here in Orange county, ca USA if you sing up atleast 4 lines, i want to port my family over to TMO from ATT because ATT stinks as far as phone selections is concerend. however i am concerned about the 7 upgrade, i really do not want to get stuck with TMO for 2 years and be limited phone wise, if thats the case i will just stick with ATT and the iphone(which i am sick of)... 7 looks so much nicer than 6.5, i had an X1 running 6.5 for most of 2009, so i am kind of over 6.5(i hacked the hell out of that X1 before it finally took a dump on me)... let me know what you guys think, i know another option is to purchase the sony X10 which works on all 3G networks but i dont have 600$ to drop on that.. anyway, thanks for your help guys.
Every phone will get a upgrade if someone hacks it in but, it's questionable on how it will all play out. Microsoft might just send "the letter" if hacking wp7 comes out and then no one gets to play unless you buy a new phone.
After all, I just want WP7 on my Titan
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There is zero chance that anyone will "hack it in" on anything less powerful than an HD2.
the leaked wp7 made by dell has lower specifications than hd2 (less ram ,smaller screen and no flash ) so why hd2 will not get the update to wp7 ,no one say to me because of the micro sd card , the new dell has one ,and also has same graphics chip so no one also tell me that there is no image scaler on hd2
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the leaked wp7 made by dell has lower specifications than hd2 (less ram ,smaller screen and no flash ) so why hd2 will not get the update to wp7 ,no one say to me because of the micro sd card , the new dell has one ,and also has same graphics chip so no one also tell me that there is no image scaler on hd2
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its all about marketing .....
nothing will explain it better
hoss_n2 said:
the leaked wp7 made by dell has lower specifications than hd2 (less ram ,smaller screen and no flash ) so why hd2 will not get the update to wp7 ,no one say to me because of the micro sd card , the new dell has one ,and also has same graphics chip so no one also tell me that there is no image scaler on hd2
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First, it's a leaked early roadmap, not an actual device. Assuming the leak is recent and accurate, it could and probably will easily change. Second, the Dell device's MicroSD card could be embedded in the device and not user accessible. This would meet Microsoft's requirements while the HD2 does not. FInally, the buttons on the HD2 do not meet the requirements for WP7. Yes, it's somewhat superficial but Microsoft will not support a device out there that doesn't match and does not fit their design requirements. The Dell device appears to meet the MS requirements. The only one that is questionable is the MicroSD card but that could easily be embedded which MS has stated is OK.
tmonews.com/2010/01/windows-mobile-6-5-details-wm7-going-to-htc-hd2/[/url]
Not sure how valid this is
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tmonews.com/2010/01/windows-mobile-6-5-details-wm7-going-to-htc-hd2/[/url]
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LOL
January 2010... that's like stoneage in the mobile world. It has already been confirmed multiple times there's no update.
I had ignored the WP7 threads for a while. Looking back at it now it's amusing to see people still discussing about the HD2 upgrade....
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Hi all ,
in my country HTC Distributor has no android phones yet and HTC Hero in some unique places is very expensive with no warranty , also any HTC with windows mobile is already exiest so what is more right decision if i want to develop for android :
1- buy HTC Hero , expensive and no warrenty
2- buy Any WindowsMobile HTC , with warrenty , and install android on it ?!
if ur answer is 2 , what is the best htc model for that ?!
Thanks Alot
I'm not a developer but I've read somewhere that you can install an immulator on your PC and run your applications on it as if it was running on a specific device. I think it also comes with a list of predefined devices, like Hero for example.
And it's FREE I think!
it's great to find some one to answer me , thank u
am already using the emulator but when u have real device it can make a difference
You won't get Android working perfectly on a Windows Mobile HTC Phone, the experienced wasn't specifically designed for that device therefore, you should get ALOT of force closes etc. I recommend investing in the Hero.
I would also recommend a Hero.
That being said, I ran Android on my HTC Vogue (the CDMA version of the Touch) for about a year before Telus got an Android device. It's damn near perfect. Contrary to what MysteryHero says, you don't get any force closes, it runs great. They've even got to the point now where Android can be flashed onto the phone instead of booting it off the SD card from WM. The only thing that doesn't work is BT audio. If you can live without that, I highly recommend a Vogue. Or a Hero, of course. But you could probably find a Vogue for a lot cheaper on eBay or something.
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I would also recommend a Hero.
That being said, I ran Android on my HTC Vogue (the CDMA version of the Touch) for about a year before Telus got an Android device. It's damn near perfect. Contrary to what MysteryHero says, you don't get any force closes, it runs great. They've even got to the point now where Android can be flashed onto the phone instead of booting it off the SD card from WM. The only thing that doesn't work is BT audio. If you can live without that, I highly recommend a Vogue. Or a Hero, of course. But you could probably find a Vogue for a lot cheaper on eBay or something.
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Do note that the GSM version of HTC Vogue, which is known as the HTC touch is not able to run on android. ( I used to use a HTC Touch)
For more details, visit my Elf guide on my signature.
why don't you get it online? eBay for example..
Thanka alot for all answers ,
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You won't get Android working perfectly on a Windows Mobile HTC Phone, the experienced wasn't specifically designed for that device therefore, you should get ALOT of force closes etc. I recommend investing in the Hero.
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i thinks it will be my choice
craig0r said:
I would also recommend a Hero.
That being said, I ran Android on my HTC Vogue (the CDMA version of the Touch) for about a year before Telus got an Android device. It's damn near perfect. Contrary to what MysteryHero says, you don't get any force closes, it runs great. They've even got to the point now where Android can be flashed onto the phone instead of booting it off the SD card from WM. The only thing that doesn't work is BT audio. If you can live without that, I highly recommend a Vogue. Or a Hero, of course. But you could probably find a Vogue for a lot cheaper on eBay or something.
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jeremy89632 said:
Do note that the GSM version of HTC Vogue, which is known as the HTC touch is not able to run on android. ( I used to use a HTC Touch)
For more details, visit my Elf guide on my signature.
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In my Country Egypt only HTC Touch here with GSM
slovoflud said:
why don't you get it online? eBay for example..
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eBay will not ship it to egypt !!
Any android phone will be the best option.
DO NOT get a WM phone instead, hoping that it will give you a perfect Android experience. That will just not happen.
I refuse to believe you cannot get your hand on a HTC android phone way one or the other.
And in regard to your signature:
It should be "learning" not "leraning".
salahag said:
I'm not a developer but I've read somewhere that you can install an immulator on your PC and run your applications on it as if it was running on a specific device. I think it also comes with a list of predefined devices, like Hero for example.
And it's FREE I think!
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It comes with the Android-SDK by default.
For Me... I use HTC WM it's good no problem but when I test htc android phone things change to me htc hero is my current phone and many apps and things you can explore and learn from it... it is depends on you if you like to try and htc will update htc hero rom this coming march for free to download trust me you will amaze and know the difference of the program of it
All opinions say : Hero will be more realistic !! So i think i will buy it
Thanks for all
Also Thanks for Uniqron for Correction , it's only typo error
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/8848669/Android-upgrade-for-Google-Nexus-S-in-weeks.html
So Google has announced that the Nexus One will not be getting ICS as it is simply not powerful enough. As the Nexus One is basically the same as our Desire, there goes any hope of an official update.
Question now is, once ICS goes AOSP, is it going to work? Without the N1, we will be lacking some necessary drivers, won't we?
Not good news. I know N1 owners and Android commentators all thought the N1 was going to get it.
Another reason to ditch Desire for good.
didnt they say any device running gingerbread would be able to get IC? i'm confused.
Old hardware, Low internal memory. Is it possible to run on the Desire/Nexus one, but they do not want ot make it. Period.
There was never any hope of an official update.
Desire was never going to get an update, but Nexus One was always in the grey area...
I guess they can easily say hardware requirements are holding it back - it will run GB - but maybe it hasnt got the internal storage for ICS to run effectively... devs can probably span it onto EXT on SDCARD but of course Google won't want to do that...
Its probably a case of 'it can.... but probably not as well as they like.'
I smell hypocrisy here. First they say that any device capable of running 2.3 will be able to get ICS, but ask them to port to a device with a different chipset to their other flagship phones, and suddenly it's simply 'too old'. And I bet they'll continue to moan that handset makers and carriers don't update devices enough.
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I smell hypocrisy here. First they say that any device capable of running 2.3 will be able to get ICS, but ask them to port to a device with a different chipset to their other flagship phones, and suddenly it's simply 'too old'. And I bet they'll continue to moan that handset makers and carriers don't update devices enough.
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The problem is not the SoC, but the LOW internal memory. They just don't want to take out apps and shrink the size of their "original" build to fit a smaller system partition.
Terepin said:
Another reason to ditch Desire for good.
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"Ditch Desire", "ICS looks ugly", "Roboto is a complete failure", ...
I could ask "why the hell haven't you left Android yet?", but since you strike me as reasonably logical and intelligent, I suspect you simply think all the alternatives are even worse than you consider Android.
Which means you're not just logical and intelligent, but my word, you're depressing.
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I smell hypocrisy here.
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The only thing I smell is one more charade low skilled users granted us the last time an official update was released
since 2.3 aosp is only about 70-90mb big, how big is ics going to be? even the desire has a system memory of ~200mb (correct me if im wrong) so why wouldnt they be able to fit it in there?
at least let the xda devs do their magic, dont wanna ditch my precious device
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"Ditch Desire", "ICS looks ugly", "Roboto is a complete failure", ...
I could ask "why the hell haven't you left Android yet?", but since you strike me as reasonably logical and intelligent, I suspect you simply think all the alternatives are even worse than you consider Android.
Which means you're not just logical and intelligent, but my word, you're depressing.
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I already wrote why.
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since 2.3 aosp is only about 70-90mb big, how big is ics going to be? even the desire has a system memory of ~200mb (correct me if im wrong) so why wouldnt they be able to fit it in there?
at least let the xda devs do their magic, dont wanna ditch my precious device
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the nexus one has in total 145 MB in /system
the ICS sdk system image is 170 MB (without google apps, wallpapers and ringtones)
so
1) it doesn't fit in the n1
2) probably it will slow down a bit the n1, and that its not acceptable for the average users (that after the ota will have no chance to go back)
3) marketing purpose..maybe about time to buy a new phone, as the very small internal memory (like our desire) was an epic fail and its going to complicate everything for the average user that have no more free space
this explain why google will not update it (atm )
cyanogen will do soon when the source come out
With the speed the devs have been churning out roms lately if they put the ics rom out for the desire by the time my contract is up I shall stick with my desire and just swap sims.
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(that after the ota will have no chance to go back)
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Oh no, that would mean another official update not done properly
I think it would be about time that average joe should decide if they want OTA updates or not.
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very small internal memory (like our desire) was an epic fail and its going to complicate everything for the average user that have no more free space
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I find it amusing that the moaners knew the Desire failed miserably with internal space compared to iPhone 3GS and Galaxy, and yet they bought it
So is this the final nail in the coffin for Desire?
The final nail would be when most devs (read all true devs) left. But yeah, Desire is with one leg in grave.
Hardly - the amount of development still going on for the Desire is phenomenal compared to some much newer phones. Probably the easily unlockable bootloader has a lot to do with that (take note, handset makers...)
Right now I (and probably a lot of people here) am running Android 2.3.7 - the most recent version of Android on the market. This means that our Desire is more up to date than the most up to date phone you can buy in a store right now. How is that "one leg in the grave" (btw the expression is one foot in the grave)
I am sure Cyanogen & team will come up with CM9 for the Desire based on ICS. None of us can yet say how it will run, but I would bet my bottom dollar that it is coming.
Personally, I have another year to go on my contract with the Desire. I expect to be running ICS quite happily for the duration of that year, and during that time, I'm sure that my phone's OS will be more up to date than all of the people I know around me with an Android phone.
Then, when my contract is up, I will get a phone that has satisfies the following conditions:
*Rootable
*Unlockable S-Off-able bootloader
*Micro SD slot
*SIM-unlockable
*Plenty of internal memory
Then I will have the equivalent of my Desire, just with new hardware specs. And it will be awesome.
I never expected any official support for that ICS ROM anyway, on the N1 nor the Desire.
but, i'm sure that upon Source code arrival, it would be adjusted to work on the desire.
I also never expected the desire for the ICS even. With that exeprience from gingerbread tells me not to expect for another wave of OS upgrade. And that is how i rooted my phone and install custom ROM (CM7.1) to it. I never imagined the power of this phone since i rooted it. It gives myself a feeling of having a new and powerful phone again after a year of constant hard reset due to memory issues. I know the CMs and other Devs are already reasearching to port another upgrade to the desire and a big thanks to them for continuously searching and developing.
For all the HTC HD7 holders concerned about not getting Apollo update like myself and not ready to upgrade should read this article to calm them down;
http://www.everythingwm.com/what-to-know-about-windows-phone-8-and-first-gen-devices/2012/03/16/
Love this news and hope it's true.
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All the first gen devices use the same base hardware profile. The only thign the HD7 has is like 64MB more RAM which shouldn't be a big deal given even second gen devices are shipping with 512...
The only thing that would stop other 1st gen devices from getting the update is the OEM or carrier refusing to license or support the new version.
Also, the post also mentions the Samsung Focus.
Seems like what has been touted on a few places lately.
All devices to get the update - only the hardware inside your device will limit the functionality you recieve.
T-Mobile doesn't even have the 8107 update pushed to these phones, I wouldn't hold my breath on Apollo...they pushed it to the Radar, and they told me to buy that instead lol.
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T-Mobile doesn't even have the 8107 update pushed to these phones, I wouldn't hold my breath on Apollo...they pushed it to the Radar, and they told me to buy that instead lol.
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T-Mobile USA pushed 8107 to all WP7 devices already. Why do people keep spreading these false facts. I had the official 8107 on my HD7 before I decided to go with a Full Unlocked ROM. There are others who have gotten the update too. The updates seems bugged or something though as I know the Lumia 710 has gotten the update, but when I tried updating my roommates' new 710s, it showed them as up to date.
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According to various sites t-mobile just started pushing to hd7 today
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Yeah, just saw that too, funny how I got it over a month ago & I wasn't the only one. They are also saying that the Lumia 710 hasn't gotten the update where I know people who have got it. Maybe it was some kind of bug? ::shrugs::
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T-Mobile USA pushed 8107 to all WP7 devices already. Why do people keep spreading these false facts. I had the official 8107 on my HD7 before I decided to go with a Full Unlocked ROM. There are others who have gotten the update too. The updates seems bugged or something though as I know the Lumia 710 has gotten the update, but when I tried updating my roommates' new 710s, it showed them as up to date.
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Actually, it just rolled out today, I'm updating as I speak, so I will retract my previous statement. As far as the Lumia 710, no update yet http://www.wpcentral.com/t-mobile-us-rolling-out-windows-phone-8107-htc-hd7-update.
I think the 1st rollout was tmobile in europe. Tmobile USA was today.
TMOUS seems to be the carrier that cares most about WP, the others sure don't.
I guess I'll un-cancel lol.
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QUOTE=inteller;23806667]The Focus will get it but here are 3 devices I have my doubts on:
LG Quantum
HTC Surround
Dell Venue Pro
But why are some first gen devices like the HD7 and the Focus chosen over the Quantum, Surround, Dell etc to get the Apollo update? All have same specs except HD7 with extra 64 MB. So what's so special about my HD7 and the focus? And if it's about OEMs, why would HTC choose HD7 over Surround? Really want to know those reasons. Any help?
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QUOTE=inteller;23806667]The Focus will get it but here are 3 devices I have my doubts on:
LG Quantum
HTC Surround
Dell Venue Pro
But why are some first gen devices like the HD7 and the Focus chosen over the Quantum, Surround, Dell etc to get the Apollo update? All have same specs except HD7 with extra 64 MB. So what's so special about my HD7 and the focus? And if it's about OEMs, why would HTC choose HD7 over Surround? Really want to know those reasons. Any help?
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Actually, the Quantum only had 256 Mb ram, I believe. The Surround had like 448 Mb ram or something like that.
Edit: nvm, gsmarena says the quantum has 512 Mb ram now. -.-
whats about LG optimus 7?
hope it will get apollo,would be a good finish to first gen devices!
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Thanks for introducing me to everythingWM.com, looks like a solid techblog.
You welcome ;-)
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I sincerely doubt US carriers will allow Apollo updates to be pushed (even if MSFT releases them). I plan to use my first gen wp as a zune with wifi.
Hello everyone, we might have all seen the latest news on the windowsteamblog.com.
So, I've been thinking....I know Mango was made available to all current phones so I don't really see how one shouldn't update. But what if Mango was an update that most devices couldn't get? Let’s take the Apollo update for example; incase the update comes and current devices are not able to upgrade due to some reasons whatsoever (eg: Multicore compatibility) and we get people with Mango and Apollo all in the ecosystem and then Windows Phone 9 comes and Microsoft once again wants to upgrade & improve the Marketplace so all devices should upgrade to Windows 8 or loose the Marketplace....what happens to the WP 7.5 consumers? Will we be foreced to get newer devices? It's been bothering me and thought I ask.
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That's a very good question, However by that time I am sure we will all be coming to the end of Contracts etc and gagging for an upgrade, Enjoy the moment and try not to threat about what's around the corner.
Good but the thing is not all countries support contracts. In my country, phones are unbranded (non-carrier based) and you can imagine....they cost like hell. I bought my HTC HD7 at a price of $800 when WP came out and its currently $500 since new devices with Mango are out...so you really need to take care of your phone so it lasts till you can save again to buy another if only you can. So for us in this situation, we really need to hold onto our phone for years and wouldn't like to be ignored by the OS...would still like to receive updates and stuff.
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When the google play edition came out, we got the dump, and worked to making a flashable rom. Now with a Windows Phone variant running on the M8, wouldn't it be relatively easy to port it? I tend to switch between Android and WP phones. Having a phone that could have either would make me want to purchase the phone because I wouldn't have to switch between two phones constantly.
Is hboot on HTC windows phones? Is there a way to dump the system and port it? Make a rom possibly? Maybe possibly RUUs to switch between the OSs factory installs?
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The phones have different hardware so don't count to much on it...
From what I have read, the only change will be the OS
"As for specifications, the Windows-based (M8) will run on Windows Phone 8.1 Update 1, but should otherwise be identical to the Android model, from the Boomsound speakers to the 5-inch Full HD display. No word yet on whether or not the device will come to any carriers other than Verizon, but there hasn’t been any indication from any other carriers up to this point."
So I wouldn't go as far as it's not possible. There is always hope.. In the General folder there is a dev working on a Dual Boot M8. Hoping to see the WP8 on one of the boot....
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The phones have different hardware so don't count to much on it...
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The hardware is identical according to leaks, they just swapped out Android for Windows Phone.
@Oditius, thanks I found it, its called MultiROM.
I currently switch between my M8 and my Lumia 1020. I love the sleekness of Windows Phone and the big screen and awesome speakers of my One. Would be nice to see this happen a-la HD2
Wonder why this thread hasn't been closed by the Android police?
So you care to trust leaks but don't read xda ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2847466
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So you care to trust leaks but don't read xda ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2847466
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So you trust the word of one mod over hundreds of leaks? I am in the WP world as well as android. Ghost may be right, but then again there are too many very trustworthy leaks.
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Why would i not......Why should i trust leaks even if it would be thousands and spreaded of the word of one man.....same as believing one mod !
I'm not going into discussion about this any further. All WP vs Android M8 are closed down.....this should be the next i guess
But this isn't about WP vs android. I like both OS's. This is about putting WP on an android device to have the best of both worlds
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BTW WP is coming to the HTC One M8
http://www.wpcentral.com/htc-one-windows-has-cortana-integration-dot-view-case