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application to setup hotmail as push mail

i successfully set up my hotmail in my X1, set the sync frequency to As Items Arrive, intending to activate push mail.
but now everytime i have new mail, i am not notified at all, not even showing of the numbers of new mails in the Today Screen.
i still need to manually go Menu > Send/Receive to update my mailbox.
any1 got solution or what application i need install?
thanks

yes: GMAIL lol
This would be a workaround, but it would work.
1. Create a Gmail account.
2. Forward your Hotmail to Gmail.
3. Set up your Gmail so that you can reply using your Hotmail account. (yeah you can do that...nifty eh?)
4. Go to your Outlook on your phone and set up "gmail-sync" as your push mail account to retrieve from. It's in beta right now but is working 100% perfectly on my Kaiser. (I'm in here because I'm getting a SEX1 in a couple days ) I frickin' LOVE IT - it pushes IMMEDIATELY as soon as the mail comes in. Instructions here:
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo
5. Now all your e-mails will be stored to your phone permanently too, instead of the inbox getting wiped every time you send receive, or whenever you have your timing set up for that.
6. Forget about Hotmail and start using Gmail lol. Just kidding...but if you set it up that way, you can still use your Hotmail completely, Gmail will be practically invisible to you. (Or is it the other way around? lol)
Seriously, Google's free push e-mail service is amaaazing. I am LOVING it.

ohhh pls tell me how to fwd mails
in aol /hotmail pls

Syncing frequency to As Items Arrive works perfectly for me.

I confirm that both hotmail and gmail works as a push mail on my XPERIA.
For hotmail, you can just use windows live connection setup and choose/set "as items arrive" and set the time as "always". For gmail, you can use the activesync feature on outlook mobile as have been told by deezy7 above.
Or else, you can use the feature from Emoze service.

hi all.
thanks for ur advices.
i did add my hotmail using the Windows Live program, did set to "as items arrive" and did set for "always"
but nothing ever appear in my pjone for new mail unless i do it manually using "send/receive"
i prefer to use my hotmail acc ley.
any1 pls help mi.
thanks

deezy7 said:
yes: GMAIL lol
This would be a workaround, but it would work.
1. Create a Gmail account.
2. Forward your Hotmail to Gmail.
3. Set up your Gmail so that you can reply using your Hotmail account. (yeah you can do that...nifty eh?)
4. Go to your Outlook on your phone and set up "gmail-sync" as your push mail account to retrieve from. It's in beta right now but is working 100% perfectly on my Kaiser. (I'm in here because I'm getting a SEX1 in a couple days ) I frickin' LOVE IT - it pushes IMMEDIATELY as soon as the mail comes in. Instructions here:
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo
5. Now all your e-mails will be stored to your phone permanently too, instead of the inbox getting wiped every time you send receive, or whenever you have your timing set up for that.
6. Forget about Hotmail and start using Gmail lol. Just kidding...but if you set it up that way, you can still use your Hotmail completely, Gmail will be practically invisible to you. (Or is it the other way around? lol)
Seriously, Google's free push e-mail service is amaaazing. I am LOVING it.
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I just set this up and it works Thank u for an explanation
But I have a question. Now only one of my mail accounts deliver mail. Is there an option to set more e-mail accounts to use push mail feature ?
If so how to do it ?

icbicb said:
Is there an option to set more e-mail accounts to use push mail feature ?
If so how to do it ?
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If you would like to have a free account for push mail service you should try Emoze. I have been playing with Emoze and honestly it helps me much to get my XPERIA have numerous mail account which works as a push mail ....

Ok, I did some workaround, created another gmail account and forwarded all my accounts to that one, and I receiving only that one.
Maybe not the best solution , but I prefer not to use online services like mobipush and such where u leave them your user name and password for each account u have...

As an alternative to Emoze i use Seven Beta. It provides near realtime push on most types of account.

icbicb said:
Ok, I did some workaround, created another gmail account and forwarded all my accounts to that one, and I receiving only that one.
Maybe not the best solution , but I prefer not to use online services like mobipush and such where u leave them your user name and password for each account u have...
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Hey icbicb, in response to your other question as well, my suggestion would have been to do what you already did, which is create another gmail acccount I also prefer not to use any other online services, and was very happy when Google came out with Gmail Sync, since I've already been using my gmail account for five years, and don't have to give out sensitive information to yet another company
To those here using other services, I'd suggest you give Gmail Sync a try. Deedee, I noticed you said that Seven Beta provides you with near realtime push. I've noticed with Gmail Sync, and having my Gmail open at the same time on my pc at work, that Gmail Sync pushes in actual realtime! I'll hear the notification on my phone first before my page refreshes to show me my new e-mail! Also, I should mention that I am using gmail plug-ins to autoupdate the screen when new e-mails come in, and the Gmail sync sends them to my phone simultaneously or even before my page refreshes, thus, I know that it is actual real-time. Just like blackberry's service! I'm in love with it right now
icbicb, I'm glad it's working out for you , loyjwe I hope you are able to give this a try...

it's a good solution, but if i transfert the mail from hotmail to gmail they will be of the hotmail box...
And it's a probleme for me...
do you have a solution for that
(excus me for my bad english)

Big advantage of Seven Beta is that it works for almost all POP3/IMAP email systems and it keeps all the accounts separate so that replies from your PPC keep the correct return address.
I have it working on Gmail x 2, Hotmail and a POP3 account and all four accounts are independant of each other.
I said near real time sync as i didn't want to claim real time in case it wasn't. I rarely use the web interface since starting Seven so haven't been in a position to check. As i tell the BB users at work if you have time to compare the two delivery times then maybe you don't need a BB.

titeloo said:
it's a good solution, but if i transfert the mail from hotmail to gmail they will be of the hotmail box...
And it's a probleme for me...
do you have a solution for that
(excus me for my bad english)
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Hi titeloo...bad english is okay lol, but, I don't really understand what you mean by "they will be of the hotmail box..." need further explanation!!
@Deedee, gmail does that also....so... for example, when you get mail forwarded to your gmail account, if it was originally sent to your hotmail account, when you reply on the phone, it will reply from the hotmail account. Gmail's set up pretty good that way. I believe right now though they have a limit on the number of accounts you can send mail from, not sure if it is 3 or 4. So it's pretty neat that Seven Beta keeps all accounts separate ...btw very nice avatar

Seven is only restricted by the number of accounts that can be set up in WM, think it's 8 in total, that includes your ActiveSync/Exchange and SMS accounts.
Thanks for the compliment. Always prefer to use real piccies for avatars where practical.

IMAP Issues

Hello, I'm hoping someone can help.
I recently bought a HTC Desire and I'm loving it except for a big problem with my IMAP email account.
Everything worked perfectly for the first day. However the next morning I noticed I hadn't received any emails. I ended up deleting the account and starting again. No joy.. I ended up hard resetting the device and setting all back up. This time the only mail I received was what it hadn't received prior to resetting.
Now after numerous resets and support phone calls the device receives absolutely nothing yet it will send no problem. I have another account which works fine. Also the email account works fine on all other devices.
I understand the obvious question is whether I've configured the device correctly. Trust me I have.
Please can anyone suggest anything? It's almost like the Desire has cached something about my email account despite the data wipes..?
Many thanks in advance!
David

Just the same issue - "no mails"...

IMAP works perfectly here. I have one Exchange ActiveSync account and one IMAP account.

My IMAP gmail account is working perfectly here too. But I did had problem getting email notification to appear on the status bar which I manage to resolved.

I tried the imap but went back to just the gmail app as the gmail app had the emails come through much faster. I didn't find the imap and gmail worked well at all.

Tried an alternative mail client like K-9?

I'm using K-9 but I don't like it. I haven't yet found anything else that does push with IMAP though. K-9 doesn't work in the same way as other email apps for POP, which I use for another account. In fact it's unusable for me for POP on Gmail as it deletes msgs as soon as they arrive (they are not being deleted from server).
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

Same problem over here with IMAP failing to retrieve new emails after a certain point. I think the built in client is having difficulty with some messages - if I use another mail client to delete the next email (after the Desire stopped receiving new mail), receiving springs back into life.
I'm going to take a closer look at this. My best guess is that the HTC email client has an obscure bug relating to a mis-implementation of the IMAP protocol. For all sorts of reasons, I'd like to get the HTC client working! Perhaps there's a workaround we can implement until a bug fix is released.
In short, definitely a bug.

I agree, there is definitely a bug in there - more than one. I think I'm going to be forced to go back to good old pop3 for emails on the Desire. Even then though, the HTC mail app doesn't do push. Maybe k9 will work better with pop3 than it does with IMAP. Although neither k9 or the gmail app copy and paste do they? So I don't know what is going to be best.
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why doesn't my email sync??? HELP...

i've got my own beautiful desire.
wonderfuk thing, but i've got a problem.
i've got 3 email accounts from hotmail and 1 gmail in my phone.
it all works great, and i like it very much.
except for 1 thing, if a delete a message on the server, my phone still saves it.
i want it so sync and delete the messages that are removed from the server.
i check my mail during the day with my phone, at night i check it on my laptop.
there are often emails in my inbox that are rubish, so i delete them.
usually i do this at night (don't know why, but i just like to do my paperwork at night).
so when i want to check my email during the day, my phone syncs with the account i select but still shows all the email i deleted.
so i have to manually delete them from my phone.
i hate this stupid way they made this.
why in *****'s name would i want to save a message that i deleted from the server?
does anybody have a solution to this problem?
because there aren't a lot of good email clients for android.

supervinnie40 said:
i've got my own beautiful desire.
wonderfuk thing, but i've got a problem.
i've got 3 email accounts from hotmail and 1 gmail in my phone.
it all works great, and i like it very much.
except for 1 thing, if a delete a message on the server, my phone still saves it.
i want it so sync and delete the messages that are removed from the server.
i check my mail during the day with my phone, at night i check it on my laptop.
there are often emails in my inbox that are rubish, so i delete them.
usually i do this at night (don't know why, but i just like to do my paperwork at night).
so when i want to check my email during the day, my phone syncs with the account i select but still shows all the email i deleted.
so i have to manually delete them from my phone.
i hate this stupid way they made this.
why in *****'s name would i want to save a message that i deleted from the server?
does anybody have a solution to this problem?
because there aren't a lot of good email clients for android.
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+ 1 here; my deleted emails are also shown :-(

What type of email you have setup?
POP3, IMAP?
POP3 will not delete emails (if you delete an email from server, it will stay on the device, and vice versa).
In IMAP, if you delete email from server, it will be deleted from the device too (or vice versa -> device-server, on the next sync)

like is said, it's hotmail so it's pop3.
who came up with the brilliant idea to sync imap and not sync pop3?
again, one of those things i so ****ing hate with software.
why does my windows vista mail program (on the laptop) sync beautifully with my account, but not my android mail program?
is android just to retarded to understand how to sync with pop3?
the day somebody comes up with a program that just works.....
it just pisses me off that nothing with the desire is made to be just right, every little rotten thing needs tweaking to make it work right.

ljesh said:
What type of email you have setup?
POP3, IMAP?
POP3 will not delete emails (if you delete an email from server, it will stay on the device, and vice versa).
In IMAP, if you delete email from server, it will be deleted from the device too (or vice versa -> device-server, on the next sync)
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..hm I came from a windows mobile device and I synched the same account; deleting an email in outlook has been also deleted on the device - and vice versa!

It's not about android, Desire, or Windows XP. It's how POP3 works.
Even if you setup the same account on 2 different PCs as POP3, you wont be able to delete emails from one PC to the other.
What I suggest is enabling IMAP on gmail and see how it goes.

cyron_at said:
..hm I came from a windows mobile device and I synched the same account; deleting an email in outlook has been also deleted on the device - and vice versa!
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If it's a gmail account and it used to work on WM but not on Android, then I would delete and re-add the account. My gmail account works great. I delete or mark as read an email on my PC or webmail, and the same goes to my Desire on the next sync.
If we're talking about personal domain (not gmail, hotmail...), then during setup in the Mail application choose the IMAP protocol.

that still deosn't solve the issue with hotmail on the desire.
hotmail is pop3, doesn't do imap.
but it works great with windows mobile.
on android it works like it's just rubbish.

I don't know about that really, I don't use hotmail.
I use gmail, and personal domain/server.
I hope someone else can help you with your hotmail issue.

so nobody knows anything about this?
they can figure out how to get the bleu led to switch on and off, but nobody can make a tweak so hotmail gets synced properly?

I think it's because in the WinMob email app you can tell it to download emails from the last 3 days and anything older disappears automatically.
The Android email apps don't do this but you can set them to delete emails from the server so if you delete the email on your phone it will delete it from the server but you can't do it the other way round.

has anyone found a solution for this.
Starting to annoy me now as well

All downloaded emails appear as unread ...???

Just moved from WM (Diamond) to Droid and loving the desire so far, however there's 1 problem that drives me nuts.
I've setup my Desire to receive mail from yahoo, as well as a few other POP3 and IMAP email accounts I have, and while the phone does download emails according to schedule, all downloaded email are marked as UNREAD whether they are actually read or not.
This happens using the MAIL application that comes with the phone (I'd think it's a goggle app, not a HTC app), but also the K-9 Mail app.
This problem also happens on 2 different ROMs ... so it's not a ROM problem.
It's extremely annoying because I keep getting notifications of 'new' emails that I've already read!
This does not happen for gmail if I use the gmail app ... but gmail is not my primary email account.
I never had this problem in my WM days neither.

that is, because the mail app actully downloads new emails (via pop3) and doesnt know, if you already read the mails elsewhere.
Go to properties and change the protocol to IMAP. (and the according adresses and ports).

Hotmail not working with 2.2 (incredibly re-engineered)

Hey guys, Just flashed the newest update of incredibly re-engineered to my dinc, been using older versions of inc re-engineered for a while. But hotmail still doesn't wanna work. Yes I've tried all the different types of pop, and exchange settings, and now I give up on trying to make hotmail work with the stock mail app. SO, gmail works just fine, I loaded up my gmail account, set my hotmail to forward everything to my gmail account, then set my gmail account to send messages under my hotmail address.
Problem solved. A real ass-backwards way of making it work so that I can have the mail widget, but it works. Of course other apps from the market will connect to my hotmail account, and I have maildroid, and thats nice, but this was the only way I could get hotmail to somewhat work with stock mail.
I will say, sometimes hotmail would sort of sync with the automatic settings, but it would only sync 10 messages at a time, and it sync'd my oldest messages first. So thats useless. I'd have to set it to sync-all in order for that to happen. All the other settings like days and how many messages, didn't take any effect. Then again, google probably considers adding windows features to a google phone to be sodomy. I'm not that surprised hotmail doesn't wanna work on my dinc
So I guess this is more of a comment thread than a question since things are working. But if you encountered the hotmail problem with android 2.2, and overcame it, please share.

Did hotmail ever work when you were running stock?

Nah didn't work right then either.
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