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I've tried many ROMS on my 8525 and they all worked pretty well. Each had their advantages and disadvantages. I want a ROM that has a lot of memory, very stable, and works great with voice command. So if you can just drop by and recommend one. No need to flame or say something about the thread--if you don't like it, don't answer in it. I just want recommendations, thanks.
How many WM6.1 roms can we possibly create!?
kareem9nba said:
I've tried many ROMS on my 8525 and they all worked pretty well. Each had their advantages and disadvantages. I want a ROM that has a lot of memory, very stable, and works great with voice command. So if you can just drop by and recommend one. No need to flame or say something about the thread--if you don't like it, don't answer in it. I just want recommendations, thanks.
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I completely agree! In the past I tried several, but ultimately stuck with the Schaps roms. I felt they were the best for me- had what I waned, were fast and stable. Now in this last month with WM6.1, there are so many, and they're all apparently the latest and the greatest. It's confusing too that every cook uses their own revision numbering system also.
I'm using Pays latest rom right now. It's what it claims to be (for me), fast and stable. Will continue with that until Schaps (hopefully soon) releases his final 4.40...
It seems everyone is working very hard to get their own perfect rom happening- but wouldn't it be better if we got more collaboration going between cooks, and worked together to create fewer, better roms? It would probably mean spending less time reinventing the wheel...
Just my thoughts- take them or leave them.
no matter what ROM I go to recently, I end up going straight back to this one
I just downloaded the Voice Command file that was on here and im sure you will find it if you use the search function.
It is fast and has alot of storage memory and in my opinion is the most stable ROM i have put on my hermes.
Everyone is different tho...
I use Pandora Naked 7.0b2, the last WM6 Naked rom before mattk_r moved on to WM6.1. It's very fast, very stable and comes with nothing extraneous.
miffymiffy said:
no matter what ROM I go to recently, I end up going straight back to this one
I just downloaded the Voice Command file that was on here and im sure you will find it if you use the search function.
It is fast and has alot of storage memory and in my opinion is the most stable ROM i have put on my hermes.
Everyone is different tho...
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I have to agree. I tried all the 6.1's as they were coming out and within a few hours had hard resets. Kept coming back to Berds rom (linked above).
Like Schap rom so much ...... so waiting for full release of Schap's WM6.1
Thank you guys for the input. I'm using Faria's 6.1 ROM. GREAT rom--very stable. Just two things with it though: there's a memory leak somewhere and voice command doesn't work well at all. So i'll see what ROM to flash. I also wanted a lite rom, but it never came out. Might try schap's 6.1 rom when it comes out.
Have you tried Matt's Pandora Naked Roms? They are clean/stable. I've been using his PN7.2 for awhile with VC & no issues. I haven't tried his 9.1 yet (wm6.1). I'm waiting for all the bugs to get worked out.
Chris
No flame, just a lot of opinion... Regardless of what anyone says, if you are looking for stability, speed, memory, etc... then you may want to stay with a WM6.0 rom... Although I have run and am currently running a WM6.1 variant, I would suggest to anyone that either doesn't have the time to flash repeatedly or isn't afflicted with RFWS to stay away from the 6.1 Roms for now...
How much time is actually spent on a rom to consider it stable...? What are the measurements that are taken to consider a rom fast and speedy...? I am not taking anything away from the cooks and wish I had the grey matter to cook roms myself, BUT unless a rom is tested over a period of time (not two weeks) and repeatedly subjected to beta testing how can one say it is stable... We constantly have roms that are released and then we become the Beta Testers (not complaining mind you, its what I live for)... But we do need to remember that this is primarily a development site and as such there will always be releases that some of us consider to be substandard or less than average... There are several factors that determine stability and how often one has to perform soft/hard resets is one of those factors...
Well, let me get off of the soapbox, I personally liked the Black Series of Roms that are no longer under development... And since they are not supported by the cook any longer (for personal reasons), I would recommend Schaps 4.x series of roms... not the WM6.1 variants, but the WM6.0 variants...
Hope this helps...
kareem9nba said:
I've tried many ROMS on my 8525 and they all worked pretty well. Each had their advantages and disadvantages. I want a ROM that has a lot of memory, very stable, and works great with voice command. So if you can just drop by and recommend one. No need to flame or say something about the thread--if you don't like it, don't answer in it. I just want recommendations, thanks.
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I think Schaps v4.01 is very stable. It can use MS VC very effectively plus it is not hifi version compared to the current ROMs. Just the basic necessary things which are required for a good ROM. I have used both his lite and full version. You can try it out.
The ROM thread is situated here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343942.
I have tried many kinds of different softwares also on this ROM which works pretty well and as desired. You can try it out.
Great to know. I've tried schaps rom actually and liked it but for some reason that i can't remember, i went to faria's. I think i might go back to this one now. Are there any highly anticipated roms coming up like dutty's 6.1 for the kaiser when everybody was talking about it before it came out?
I tried Schaps and just like last time, it freezes up a lot on me for some reason. Things don't go very smooth on it so i might try pay's rom or some other that i find stable. Any further recommendations will be highly accepted.
I was a great fan of Schaps roms but I kept having connectivity issues (ie: bluetooth, wi-fi) so i switched over to TNT roms. Love those. But it all depends on what you're looking for. For example, TNT roms have a lot of 3rd part apps that some people might not want. I personally haven't had any luck with voice command. Not even with the at&t rom. You gotta do your research. Check thru the first few pages of a rom thread that looks appealing to you and see what the immediate problems are and post your concerns/questions. Members here will be more than happy to help you. After all, that's what development is...isn't it?
Guys, I have gone done the same path as so many of you - trying each ROM as it came out. Before 6.1, I was stuck on TNT SE after being a major fan of Schaps for a long while. Now with 6.1, I have found CRC's to be the best. I dont use VC so cant comment.. Randomize is good, but no BT Explorer... have been operating with CRC for a few weeks now. Very rarely have to reset - only if I overload the thing and it locks up at 99% memory utilisation. Try it for yourself... The only comment I have beyond that is related to radio ROM. I have found that 6.1 seems to be more sensitive to which Radio Rom you are using. I have gone back to 1.43 and found it to be superior to 1.54! Be warned though, I have read in some of the other threads that an older radio ROM can cause the phone to freeze up, although I haven't experianced that at all.
RanDomIze Final Storm v2.10
I have tried almost every 6.1 ROM, this on definatly is the best one I have found.
Hello
Can anyone suggest which ROM/kitchen should I choose?
Currently I use Artemis Touch and it seems very good, but I would like to upgrade to 6.5.
I'm no afraid of kitchen and I'm able to make my own OEM packages, hovewer I need stability. At first I was thinking about Shady's ROM or kitchen, but it seems that while it have new versions often, it isn't stable at all (Microsoft fault, but it's fact). It has problems with GPS, Outlook, it haven't MMS builtin etc.
Can anyone recommend ROM or kitchen - may be not the newest one build, but as stable as possible.
any help, please?
Rom search
i'd like to know too.
I'm using a beta 6.5 that works very well but there must be something better out there.
Also, in our quest; can anyone recommend a pc based artemis emulator to try roms out before we flash. We could do a study and post results rating the best roms then.
Ste
there is no emulators, as I know. There is only simulator together with Microsoft's developers tools.
Careful with these
Hi All
I have tried lots of ROM and I found out that Dhee is the best. Theres always some problem or other with other ROM. Also the sound quality is vey fine in Dhee.
I am a student and I guess that we should be careful and analyse very well before flashing. Huh! Please guys we can't just brick such an expensive mobile else our folks will brick us in the process of testing. Therefore, I would be grateful to all those who post their views and experience here. Thanks in advance.
For me am sticking with wm6.1 as 6.5 has far too many bugs and issues and as am away quite often am not able to test a rom then revert back to something far more stable... Am looking forward to a good all round stable and fully working 6.5.. But till then 6.1 is for me.
Best rom I have flashed and used so far is the Touch 4.02 rom(vanilla) works excellently good amount of free program and storage ram.. Fairly speed(have used hackmaster to clock to 249mhz for bit more speed) every thing works perfectly inc sms and mms which are some of the main faults with wm6.5...
Can highly recommend it..
regards
Lohtse
I am going to first start off by saying that I'm not a big fan of change and haven't found myself a reason to upgrade to 6.5.1+ yet. So bear with me, as I'm still using 21864 on NFSFAN's 1.0 ROM. I have noticed various things with this ROM build, was wondering if anyone had also noticed them, or even found a solution for them.
The first thing I noticed with it is that if I have a data connection open, it is always 'active' - the arrows never turn gray. I've seen this happen in BOTH of NFSFAN's dialers.
I would assume this problem has to do with the first-- My data connection is interrupted after some time, and I get the "Cannot Connect" error. I have MS Direct Push (Exchange/Activesync) turned on. A simple soft-reset will temporarily fix this, but it seems to happen about twice a day.
Of course next, the alarms don't sound but I'm not worried about this since it's a well-known problem.
The last thing I noticed is that sometimes my D-Pad stops functioning in the software, and touch-scrolling lags. This only happens sometimes and doesn't bother me. I first noticed this when I had Palringo installed, but it also has been doing it after 3-4 hard resets.
EDIT: This is by far the best 6.5 ROM for the Vogue that I have personally used. I also realize that NFSFAN has stopped development with this ROM series.
i don't think nfsfan has stopped developing them... i just think he has no time. (he's a full time uni student) and this is his hobby
i personally use vin's rom... and i was always able to have a data connection stop.
if you want to manually configure when to have data install http://www.4shared.com/file/72428200/ebc177b2/MoDaCo_NoData.html
sorry for the double post. but here it is.
i don't think nfsfan has stopped developing them... i just think he has no time. (he's a full time uni student) and this is his hobby
i personally use vin's rom... and i was always able to have a data connection stop.
if you want to manually configure when to have data install this link here...l
I was a long time NFSFAN user and will no doubt flash his next ROM, but right now I am running Vin's 23506 ROM and it is simply the best ROM I have flashed. It is very fast and I never have to soft reset, like ever.
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I was a long time NFSFAN user and will no doubt flash his next ROM, but right now I am running Vin's 23506 ROM and it is simply the best ROM I have flashed. It is very fast and I never have to soft reset, like ever.
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+1 on that.His TP ROMs also the best.This guy is a living ppc.Vogue and TP users got lucky
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+1 on that.His TP ROMs also the best.This guy is a living ppc
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+1 too his Vogue rom was really stable, fast, and with enough features. Right now, I am testing mine, but his is one of the best (no offense to vin, your rom rocks too man!)
I used to use NFSFans, then i switched to Vins.
Couldn't be happier now with Vins, their stable, fast an usually liveable which is the big part, no way could go back to vanilla 6.1.
I agree NFSfans were good, but felt it up an down, where as following Vins till his kitchen crashed has been steady and in touch with his followers.
So, yeah theres little twitches an glitches, lot less then stock WM had so its a win-win, and i found the best continuity on Vins roms for my three vogues.
Sorry o/t an not knocking anyone, just credit where due.
Peace
WR
I have used both of these ROMs and finally decided on Vins(no offense to NFSfan, he is a genius), but the stability and look of Vins V_4 is simply amazing.
I'm pretty new to flashing ROMs, but I'm officially addicted and will for sure try anything that either put out.
Keep up the great work
Thanks for the feedback, guys! I think I do remember trying one of vins older ROMs but I'll catch the latest and try that.
Vin- Much impressed with V4!! Best I've used yet. Just installed no2chem's mass storage, works great.
Hi All,
Been looking around, (ive tried android on my kaiser once), and just wondered what is the best (most stable) android for kaiser, as a lot of them seem to have a lot under "not working"?
Thanks,
Tom,
Kinda hard to answer, since no one Android build has anything working 100%.
Myn’s Warm Donut will get you most of your stuff working, but there's still a lot of bugs.
Incubus26Jc's Super Eclair is pretty good, but you lose out on Camera and Bluetooth. Less bugs then Donut, but more stable IMO.
Although Polyrhythmic hasn't updated his 2.1D for a while, I still think it's the best of the eclairs. For Donut, Myn's is really the only game in town.
Eclair is still struggling with non-working camera, but GPS , WiFi, and BT are working reasonably well, if you are prepared to invest some time into hunting out the best combination of nbh and build.
Donut is reasonably complete, I have had Myns working with WiFi, GPS and Camera, or GPS, BT and Camera, but never managed all working at once, it is the most feature-complete and arguably the most stable build of all.
Given that we have only had Android on our kaisers since the end of last year, I still think that all the devs have done a remarkable job, and development continues.
Compared to the start of the year, when all that was possible was running from SD, with battery life measured in minutes, no wifi, gps, bt or camera, I think what we have now is a complete OS, it's been my everyday phone OS now for months, and once you get into a few good habits, it's stable and smooth, with decent battery life.
Thanks for replies guys,
I have installed Myn’s Warm Donut, but it seems the graphics are a bit weird, they seem like they are the wrong bit depth or something, not quite sure how to describe it.
Any help on this please?
Thanks,
Tom
XCougar said:
Thanks for replies guys,
I have installed Myn’s Warm Donut, but it seems the graphics are a bit weird, they seem like they are the wrong bit depth or something, not quite sure how to describe it.
Any help on this please?
Thanks,
Tom
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Q: I installed Android but now everything is blurry.
A: It's due to wrong resolution. Kaiser phones have panel for 230x320 but you're probably using 320x480 build. Here is a post by user tatnai where he explains this situation for Vogue devices (it goes same for Kaiser).
Android FAQ: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683644
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Myn's Warm Donut is basically a scaled down version of 320x480 resolution to fit 230x320 panels, with 110 density, hence the blurriness.
One build with native 230x320 I like is vilord's Tattoo Sense, but there is a camera and BT audio not working problem in that build - hopefully incubus26jc's next release will fix this.
milanche said:
Myn's Warm Donut is basically a scaled down version of 320x480 resolution to fit 230x320 panels, with 110 density, hence the blurriness.
One build with native 230x320 I like is vilord's Tattoo Sense, but there is a camera and BT audio not working problem in that build - hopefully incubus26jc's next release will fix this.
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vilord's Tattoo Sense sounds pretty good, and it has rosie which I'd love to see working stable. I think I'll try this on the weekend, but just wanted to know, has anyone tried this? is it stable and/or fast? Its for the touch, but as far as I've seen, vogue builds work for kaiser... would this work too?
milanche said:
Myn's Warm Donut is basically a scaled down version of 320x480 resolution to fit 230x320 panels, with 110 density, hence the blurriness.
One build with native 230x320 I like is vilord's Tattoo Sense, but there is a camera and BT audio not working problem in that build - hopefully incubus26jc's next release will fix this.
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Hi, thanks for reply, not that I don't believe you, but its not so much blurryness, there are pink and green bits everywhere? Or is this what your describing?
Thanks again,
Oh thats because you´ve choosed a wrong paneltype. Kaiser was built with 3 different Panels so you have to choose the right one. Look at the second sticky thread.
xPreSiDenT said:
vilord's Tattoo Sense sounds pretty good, and it has rosie which I'd love to see working stable. I think I'll try this on the weekend, but just wanted to know, has anyone tried this? is it stable and/or fast? Its for the touch, but as far as I've seen, vogue builds work for kaiser... would this work too?
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I've tried it and believe it's the best Android build so far, despite BT and Camera problem (which we should be able to fix as it is Donut 1.6 Android).
For Kaiser you should use kallt_kaffe's update to get Wifi working and it also fixes Rosie and Market.
Thanks for info.
Ok please dont flame me, ive looked around and I used to flash windows mobile all the time, but I really dont understand these nbh files.
What are they, what do they do, why are there different ones e.g voguimg.nbh and kaisimg.nbh and polimg.nbh
Thanks for your patience with me
XCougar said:
Thanks for info.
Ok please dont flame me, ive looked around and I used to flash windows mobile all the time, but I really dont understand these nbh files.
What are they, what do they do, why are there different ones e.g voguimg.nbh and kaisimg.nbh and polimg.nbh
Thanks for your patience with me
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VOGUIMG is for Vogue devices, POLAIMG is for Polaris devices and KAISIMG is for Kaiser. Think of them as some sort of bootloaders for Android. You flash the NBH, boot to the install console, install Android from SD to NAND/SD/EXT2 and boot Android. Also you have to choose the correct panel to avoid screen problems you're having. The only way to see which panel are you using on Kaiser is to test all three of them and see which one doesn't cause you screen problems.
To test which panel you're using you should first make an SD install with Haret, there you have the option to specifiy panel type in the config file default.txt and can change this before every boot. With NAND this is hard-coded into NBH file. Later you can flash to NAND if you decide to stick with Android.
Please go thru this Q/A topic, it should help you get the answers to most of newbie-type questions.
I´m not a developer and especially on android i´m a noob but i think the NBH contains all what is going to be flashed into nand. In case of WiMo it´s the whole Operating system, somtimes with radio too. In case of android the NBH contains the Kernel only. The kernel is designed for your device with all the drivers you need (touchscreen, wifi, BT, GPS, etc.). so kernels from other devices may not work becaus of other hardware specs. in worst case it may brick your device. I read alot before i flashed my kaiser an kallt_kaffe´s kernel seems to be the best for now. Nearly all funktions are available. Only the Camera have a bug, but i think it only takes only a little time to fix this too.
I use kallt_kaffe´s kernel and Myn´s Warm Donut RLS5 and i´m totally happy with it. Fingerfriendly (you´ll never need your stylus again except for reset ^^), and much more responsive then the fastest WiMo ROMs.
You only have to modify the nbh for your panel type. But you only can do trial & error to find out which type you have.
So... happy flashing.
Thanks everyone for your help, I have the tattoo sense rom on my phone now, my phone uses panel2 type of kaiser nbh.
I now understand the nbh better.
As im more then likely going to upgrade to a newer android rom when more stable ones come out, can anyone recommend a android application that will allow me to backup my txts, emails, contacts, and settings, etc.
Thanks all
So I'm a noob here as you can tell by my post count. I recently got a AT&T Tilt. I know the phone is old, but I would like to make it more user friendly. The version of Windows Mobile on there is hard to use and slow. I feel that there maybe an android rom that would suit my needs. I just use the phone,text, and facebook. I won't really be playing games or anything like that. WIfi would be nice, but not necessary.
I have installed on a SD card Myn's Warm Donut RLS 5 on the phone. It seems to run okay, but you can't talk on the phone. Like the mic doesn't work. What would be a good version or rom for me? I know this probably gets asked a lot. Last question does android run better when its on the actual phone vs. a memory card.
Thanks.
I'm not sure about the kernel and all that nonsense. For the Valentine RLS can I use stock base files? I got Myn's Warm donut to work, but I can't get anything newer to work.
I can answer the SD card/NAND question only one way...
The phone works and responds much better when the /andboot and /data are on the NAND in the phone itself.
I have had NO issues with Thoughtlesskyle's "Fat Free Froyo", not even so much as a hiccup, and this is with the .25 kernel installed on the phone.
Sure, theres not much room left for apps, but if you're only using it for text, phone and internet, that shouldn't be an issue.
BTW, the wireless works fine as long as you install the update for it.
Camera is a bit fidgity but usable, and you will need to back up the /data from your phone once evrything is working right. I back mine up weekly, but I have never had to do a restore.
Do some more research, make your own decisions, but most of all have fun with it.
I guess you have to use A Tools any time you want to change the droid os on the phone?
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I guess you have to use A Tools any time you want to change the droid os on the phone?
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Atools is only for those who can understand what to do
You only need to know correct Device, keyboard type and Panel Type in order to make android work. E.g a Froyo/Eclair kernel cannot work on Donut.
Also, mic/camera related issues are due to older radio version. Get a radio version 1.65.x or higher, and you need HARD SPL v3.29 or higher to do flashing job. I will never recommend a ForceUSB HardSPL