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I just want a clean, stable ROM with bug fixes.
Thanx for any advice.
the best one is the one you like better.
just try them and answer yourself.
i'm still on the old Mun... and its just great!
I'm on the bepe ROM and it is not the best I tried but I'm to lacy to reflash again.
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i'm still on the old Mun... and its just great!
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i'm the same , and waiting for mUn's Wm6 rom
This is the best one
The best rom is the one that covers your needs.
They are all great and this guys are doing a heck of a good job,so start flashing and get your own answer.All these roms have amazing features so like I said flash and enjoy it.
Read about Hard SSPL and SSPL before you do it and make sure you do it well,just to avoid (bad) surprises.
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I just want a clean, stable ROM with bug fixes.
Thanx for any advice.
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Wait for an official ROM. If you can't take the time to try different ROMs and start a new thread, this is probably not the place for you.
The spirit of this forum to look through the contributions that everyone has made to the development of ROMS, try to contribute in any way you can - and help those in need.
Please don't take me the wrong way, but to reach the nirvana you describe, lots of people have to try out cooked ROMS - and feedback on different bugs. Only then do we get our cookers cooking great ROMS ( I dare say the official development teams check in here, too.)
You should be able to decide based on different comments in different ROM threads (currently 2730 posts in ROM thread for mUn, LVSW, AX3L and ausdim modified version of "official" ROM) which one suits YOUR NEEDS the best. As you will see, showing an outright preference does not encourage ROM cookers and is not really polite.
It may be that you were bewildered stumbling across xda-developers - if so - ask for help - but don't expect a free lunch - try and contribute to the forum, too.
Don't forget to donate to the ROM chef once you've found your favourite - and happy flashing if you find it.
I have tried a multitude of ROMs over the past few weeks and was just trying to guage what others have thought of them. I have tried LSVW and AX3L more recently but was having some issues with SPB Mobile Shell on AX3L. I am currently trying ausdim's ROM and will see what its like. Will post back.
The last one called "official" is best for me.
Wifi working (wpa, wpa2)
BT with A2DP working.
VOIP working ( i need this feature badly). You can hear in speaker only but working all the time and very good. On any other roms i tried only static noise, echo and sound drop. Even on official WM5 rom.
No more power drain after data disconnect. Again important feature.
GPS working.
The only thing in this rom is that you need some patched to have video call, menu sounds and other tweaks. But it's best so far.
VM
Still using mUn's 2.00.S.E.
Absolutely love it!
So far so good with audism's 'official' ROM with patches. Tomtom working, SPB seem OK as well. Will use over the next few days and post back. I even like the default colour scheme
very happy with ausdim's 'official' rom. Nice and stable and none of the weird stuff i was getting with the previous ones.
The most important thing I learnt from the last few frenzied months of flashing on my hermes and trinity is that its not the rom itself but what you do with them that counts.
I now soft reset after re-installing each of my major apps after a new rom flash and it really pays off.
Particularly with the lsvw trinity rom where I was having some major issues where it was defaulting to landscape mode after soft reset when I installed a combination of apps too close together. I'm not completely sure which the offending apps were but spb shell, aebutton, and spb full screen keyboard seemed to be the ones to tip the balance.
Anyway, I generally try and find the cleanest rom and build it myself as we all have our particular favourite apps and I dont like doubling up on programs.
Actually, ausdim's 'official' is the closest I've come to my ideal rom.
I have tried them all over recent weeks. I prefer AX3L rom and his ext rom. That is my personal opinion
Have to say Bepe's is the most stable rom for me with the set of applications that I am using, great respect to all, but Bepe's had to be flashed to my device after using any ROM, waiting for more great efforts and the testing will continue.
Cheers
Private69, if you want something real close to the official.
Experienced some bugs with audism, so flashed to private69 with my own tweaks and cabs. Works like a breeze
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The last one called "official" is best for me.
Wifi working (wpa, wpa2)
BT with A2DP working.
VOIP working ( i need this feature badly). You can hear in speaker only but working all the time and very good. On any other roms i tried only static noise, echo and sound drop. Even on official WM5 rom.
No more power drain after data disconnect. Again important feature.
GPS working.
The only thing in this rom is that you need some patched to have video call, menu sounds and other tweaks. But it's best so far.
VM
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Can you please post your version of windows/rtcdll.dll ?
Using the one from the original post, (this cab from ax3l http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=41737&d=1182077395 ) I can use wm6 voip but during the conversation I often ear noise.
Ciao
Tried all roms I could get hand on if they were english and of course bepes German as it is the only german out of the box but now I'm using AX3L's rom with the extrom. Its out of the box nice, fast, has a lot of free space and all my apps run smooth.
But in his rom the Battery leak is not yet fixed but there iss light HTC Asia is making a WM6 right now so the days are counted
For the moment PDAVIET its the best Rom.
Greats Remo
The Best?
The best is relative to what you are looking for, your style and taste. Personally I want stability and so far Private69's has been perfect in that area.
so far I have found AX3L's Rom very good and stable.
Sorry to be a pain, however there are lots of WM6 roms for the p3600 and i am looking for a good one. I know that they all have thier best bits but i am not sure which one to go for, i need it to be WWE
Is there somewhere where they are listed with a few notes as to any issues with each one
I have done a search and not found anything that lists them or compares them
Any help much appreciated
the reason why there are soo many is that people pref various roms because of the various programs they contain
all comes down to openions
There is no list with pro's and con's but if you read my signature you will find the wiki where most of them are listed.
You have to try a lot of them and decide by your own, and maybe later you will make some sort of list with pro's and con's
In my personal experience i've tried more than 15 different rom's
Good luck with your search...
Personally I like Mary 2.02 or PVAVIET Roms everything seem to work on these with having to tweak etc
mary 2.02 for me...well at the mo anyway
now using AX3L
I personally have tried all roms produced by all rom makers and I do not think I am going to stop trying new ones, each rom version I have tried had something different, but they all have good speed and stability, evey new rom would have something new (OS, HTC stuff, com managers,.....etc)
The strange thing is as the trinity is used all over the world and thus users are using different connections and therefore rom builders have to take into consideration all unique local connection methods -- which is impossible.
For that reason a lot of the bugs reported in many roms are not seen with many users.
To cut long story short, there is no best rom, but there is a good rom that works fine on my device where I live.
You have to find out that rom yourself. (once found; back it up on your SD and consider it your safe rom to revert back to)
Taiseer
Many thanks for the help and the replies, i will get testing the roms
Many thanks
Im using the PDAViet ROM and its SO stable and fast and it also looks great, its my personal choice, i cant remeber what ROM i installed before but within 10mins if annoyed me by hanging. So far (touch wood) this ROM has work WITHOUT fault.
My favorite by far is the one found HERE.
It is the AUS HTC Version with WM6. Works excellent in California, USA on ATT.
VERY rare to crash.
I've then added PocketCM's software, and the whole world is good...
"Bepe" the best
better than all the rest.
Mary 3.x is best for me
For me it's the latest Mary rom... stable quick not to much not to less within...
Adewidt ROM the Best ROM
"Adewidt" vers. ENG en NL/ Dutch -the best
better than all the rest.
(Maja)
This is all down to personal choice,
I have tried AX3L,mUn,Mary,PDAVIET,Karmba_a thing the only one I have not had ago at is Bepe and hes are all used as the baseroms,
Its all about the look and feel, and everyone of these works great,
people deciede which one to use of whats included in the rom and its look,
personally I like the bog standard roms and then I can choose what to add.
Personally I dont like the HTC Home screen but most people do, but I will admit as soon as a new one come out I am hooked and have a try.
In short they are all great, but I do prefer the thread that also include the cab files then use, makes it easier to have a go at cooking our own.
We are sploit for choice, I am pleased that there is no official WM6 for my device else maybe these people would stop thier great work...!!!
I've tried many ROMS on my 8525 and they all worked pretty well. Each had their advantages and disadvantages. I want a ROM that has a lot of memory, very stable, and works great with voice command. So if you can just drop by and recommend one. No need to flame or say something about the thread--if you don't like it, don't answer in it. I just want recommendations, thanks.
How many WM6.1 roms can we possibly create!?
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I've tried many ROMS on my 8525 and they all worked pretty well. Each had their advantages and disadvantages. I want a ROM that has a lot of memory, very stable, and works great with voice command. So if you can just drop by and recommend one. No need to flame or say something about the thread--if you don't like it, don't answer in it. I just want recommendations, thanks.
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I completely agree! In the past I tried several, but ultimately stuck with the Schaps roms. I felt they were the best for me- had what I waned, were fast and stable. Now in this last month with WM6.1, there are so many, and they're all apparently the latest and the greatest. It's confusing too that every cook uses their own revision numbering system also.
I'm using Pays latest rom right now. It's what it claims to be (for me), fast and stable. Will continue with that until Schaps (hopefully soon) releases his final 4.40...
It seems everyone is working very hard to get their own perfect rom happening- but wouldn't it be better if we got more collaboration going between cooks, and worked together to create fewer, better roms? It would probably mean spending less time reinventing the wheel...
Just my thoughts- take them or leave them.
no matter what ROM I go to recently, I end up going straight back to this one
I just downloaded the Voice Command file that was on here and im sure you will find it if you use the search function.
It is fast and has alot of storage memory and in my opinion is the most stable ROM i have put on my hermes.
Everyone is different tho...
I use Pandora Naked 7.0b2, the last WM6 Naked rom before mattk_r moved on to WM6.1. It's very fast, very stable and comes with nothing extraneous.
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no matter what ROM I go to recently, I end up going straight back to this one
I just downloaded the Voice Command file that was on here and im sure you will find it if you use the search function.
It is fast and has alot of storage memory and in my opinion is the most stable ROM i have put on my hermes.
Everyone is different tho...
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I have to agree. I tried all the 6.1's as they were coming out and within a few hours had hard resets. Kept coming back to Berds rom (linked above).
Like Schap rom so much ...... so waiting for full release of Schap's WM6.1
Thank you guys for the input. I'm using Faria's 6.1 ROM. GREAT rom--very stable. Just two things with it though: there's a memory leak somewhere and voice command doesn't work well at all. So i'll see what ROM to flash. I also wanted a lite rom, but it never came out. Might try schap's 6.1 rom when it comes out.
Have you tried Matt's Pandora Naked Roms? They are clean/stable. I've been using his PN7.2 for awhile with VC & no issues. I haven't tried his 9.1 yet (wm6.1). I'm waiting for all the bugs to get worked out.
Chris
No flame, just a lot of opinion... Regardless of what anyone says, if you are looking for stability, speed, memory, etc... then you may want to stay with a WM6.0 rom... Although I have run and am currently running a WM6.1 variant, I would suggest to anyone that either doesn't have the time to flash repeatedly or isn't afflicted with RFWS to stay away from the 6.1 Roms for now...
How much time is actually spent on a rom to consider it stable...? What are the measurements that are taken to consider a rom fast and speedy...? I am not taking anything away from the cooks and wish I had the grey matter to cook roms myself, BUT unless a rom is tested over a period of time (not two weeks) and repeatedly subjected to beta testing how can one say it is stable... We constantly have roms that are released and then we become the Beta Testers (not complaining mind you, its what I live for)... But we do need to remember that this is primarily a development site and as such there will always be releases that some of us consider to be substandard or less than average... There are several factors that determine stability and how often one has to perform soft/hard resets is one of those factors...
Well, let me get off of the soapbox, I personally liked the Black Series of Roms that are no longer under development... And since they are not supported by the cook any longer (for personal reasons), I would recommend Schaps 4.x series of roms... not the WM6.1 variants, but the WM6.0 variants...
Hope this helps...
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I've tried many ROMS on my 8525 and they all worked pretty well. Each had their advantages and disadvantages. I want a ROM that has a lot of memory, very stable, and works great with voice command. So if you can just drop by and recommend one. No need to flame or say something about the thread--if you don't like it, don't answer in it. I just want recommendations, thanks.
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I think Schaps v4.01 is very stable. It can use MS VC very effectively plus it is not hifi version compared to the current ROMs. Just the basic necessary things which are required for a good ROM. I have used both his lite and full version. You can try it out.
The ROM thread is situated here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343942.
I have tried many kinds of different softwares also on this ROM which works pretty well and as desired. You can try it out.
Great to know. I've tried schaps rom actually and liked it but for some reason that i can't remember, i went to faria's. I think i might go back to this one now. Are there any highly anticipated roms coming up like dutty's 6.1 for the kaiser when everybody was talking about it before it came out?
I tried Schaps and just like last time, it freezes up a lot on me for some reason. Things don't go very smooth on it so i might try pay's rom or some other that i find stable. Any further recommendations will be highly accepted.
I was a great fan of Schaps roms but I kept having connectivity issues (ie: bluetooth, wi-fi) so i switched over to TNT roms. Love those. But it all depends on what you're looking for. For example, TNT roms have a lot of 3rd part apps that some people might not want. I personally haven't had any luck with voice command. Not even with the at&t rom. You gotta do your research. Check thru the first few pages of a rom thread that looks appealing to you and see what the immediate problems are and post your concerns/questions. Members here will be more than happy to help you. After all, that's what development is...isn't it?
Guys, I have gone done the same path as so many of you - trying each ROM as it came out. Before 6.1, I was stuck on TNT SE after being a major fan of Schaps for a long while. Now with 6.1, I have found CRC's to be the best. I dont use VC so cant comment.. Randomize is good, but no BT Explorer... have been operating with CRC for a few weeks now. Very rarely have to reset - only if I overload the thing and it locks up at 99% memory utilisation. Try it for yourself... The only comment I have beyond that is related to radio ROM. I have found that 6.1 seems to be more sensitive to which Radio Rom you are using. I have gone back to 1.43 and found it to be superior to 1.54! Be warned though, I have read in some of the other threads that an older radio ROM can cause the phone to freeze up, although I haven't experianced that at all.
RanDomIze Final Storm v2.10
I have tried almost every 6.1 ROM, this on definatly is the best one I have found.
Hi guys, I'll be using a Hermes for a few months until my contract comes up for renewal but having had an iphone and an HTC Advantage for the last year or so I've been a bit spoilt in the memory/mhz department and now using the Hermes is like pulling teeth.
I didn't play with the standard rom long enough to know if I liked it, just dived straight in here, trying out some XDA-dev Roms. I've now tried manilla2D V8 and starbase's touchflo2d and although they look fantastic they seem painfully slow and riddled with bugs. This is not an attack on the authors of those roms, as I said they look fantastic and are hugely functional. I just need one ALOT quicker and without the bugs.
Any recommendations?
regarding your question
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Hi guys, I'll be using a Hermes for a few months until my contract comes up for renewal but having had an iphone and an HTC Advantage for the last year or so I've been a bit spoilt in the memory/mhz department and now using the Hermes is like pulling teeth.
I didn't play with the standard rom long enough to know if I liked it, just dived straight in here, trying out some XDA-dev Roms. I've now tried manilla2D V8 and starbase's touchflo2d and although they look fantastic they seem painfully slow and riddled with bugs. This is not an attack on the authors of those roms, as I said they look fantastic and are hugely functional. I just need one ALOT quicker and without the bugs.
Any recommendations?
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Their are limitations as you are aware with the hermes so any rom running hermes rom running touchflo2d will leave you with at or around 20megs of ram. all of the chefs have put out great roms so my suggestion would be to try ones with tf2d cooked in. performance and bugs are non existent in most of them or easily fixable. Good luck.
If you want a fast ROM, don't flash one with manilla or touchflow. They will bog you down. Try one of the lite ROMs out there from Joshkosh or Abusalza's PDA ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417233
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437029
I am using Joshkosh's halloween V10 and it is quick.
Thanks guys, now trying pdacornerpro v25 and so far so good.
Dont forget to try Schap's 4.40 Beta!
U must try all of DVH's!!!
(here we go again)
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Thanks guys, now trying pdacornerpro v25 and so far so good.
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good choice bro.... congratz..
Best rom...
I was using crc's rom's clean design lots of usablity but i constantly had sync problems so tried Dvha79_ddt Rom's and they are all very good i am using V22 5.2.20748 Black basic NoBS and its is excelent.
I'm also using DVH v22 NoBS for months now (usually I flash around every other week) and it seems to be very fast and stable. If you're content with WM standard today screen (no fancy home plugins) I'd suggest go w/ it to conserve resources.
I tend to find most roms strt to get buggy the more 3rd party apps installed. It seems to need experimentation to get it just right but every ROM is different and will, eventually, go down if you're adventurous and keep putting more and more 3rd party apps on.
Cheers...
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I was using crc's rom's clean design lots of usablity but i constantly had sync problems so tried Dvha79_ddt Rom's and they are all very good i am using V22 5.2.20748 Black basic NoBS and its is excelent.
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I'm also using this rom but I have a problem: when I press the side Power Button to turn off the device ( in stand by), any other press of another hardware button opens up the device, and this didn't happened previously (in wm6 rom). For example, even though the device is turned off by short pressing the power button, if I accidentally press the IE button, or the camera button, the device wakes up and opens these apps. What's the solution, any registry tweak to do?
Settings>Key Lock
so, what's the verdict?
I'm new to Hermes (still using Excalibur most of the time). With so many roms and so many suggestions, have you narrowed down to THE fastest and most stable rom yet, Dannyboy? thanks!
Well after trying 3 or 4 different roms before I started this thread and a couple after it I finally settled on PDAViet DVH_V27. It was without doubt the fastest and most bug free but did lack any frills at all. I added HTC home and my usual list of cab files without any problems or slow down.
However..... as usual after a few weeks I now find myself itching for something new so I'm now on here searching for a new one to try
How much free RAM left
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... I finally settled on PDAViet DVH_V27. It was without doubt the fastest and most bug free but did lack any frills at all. I added HTC home and my usual list of cab files without any problems or slow down.
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Thank you for the info! Do you know how much free memory you usually have? I am thinking about running TomTom navigation software, but wonder if I will have enough RAM to do that. Thanks, again!
Faria 32 - winner
This ROM wins (hands down for me). I have tried at least 6 ROMs recently and really wanted one of the manilla 2D roms to be good enough to stay the distance. I just didn't find them stable enough. PhamQuang attemp is oh so close.
I finally got round to flashing Faria32 - No frills looks wise - but a great clean ROM that hasn't yet thrown up anything significant. For now I'm sticking with this.
Still waiting for the next best touchflow batch.
Fastest Rom!!!
TNT 5.2.19199 build 19199.1.0.0
SK tools 211 score!!!!!
here we go again, each one of us uses our hermes differently, there is no such a thing as 'the fastest', 'the best' bla bla bla rom.
You need to try each one and load the software you want and see if it is fast. For me I have found that ROM.
I agree with Zocster. Everyone's different and everyone uses their device differently. I personally (for everyday use at least, I love testing other ROMS) have settled on CRC's latest stable ROMS.
I use a mac w/ missing sync and haven't had any sync problems. I also have an xp box I use as a tech machine and though I don't really depend on it for syncing, I've tried it a few times and not had any problems.
Anyways, other than benching them all in the exact same conditions, it's pretty much impossible to pin down which is THE fastest, which is THE most stable.
The cooks and testers already dedicate countless hours/days attempting this with just one ROM and even that is often too time consuming and sometimes overwhelming. I don't think any of us really has the time to even try a task so daunting, besides, HW and network conditions vary so greatly that who knows how useful it would even be.
As mentioned, general rules apply, the less frills, the lite/naked/NON-BS ROMS are generally the fastest and most stable. As far as your personal preferences go, you've just gotta rely on other people's recommendations and your own experience testing and trying until you find one that works for you.
There have been plenty of good recommendations already, and as I said, I find CRC's latest stable ROMS to do the job for me, but I am always looking and trying new ones that look good.
So, if you really can't find one that works for you, either take up kareem4nba up on his offer and ask him to build one for you, or do some reading, research, download a kitchen, and start cooking.
But, as I said, generally fast and stable are more synonymous with the lite, naked, and non-BS, 'function before form,' "clean" ROMS.
But I digress and agree with zocster, there is no such thing as "the best," "the fastest," or "the most stable" ROM, there are so many uncontrollable variables and is judged based on so many subjective factors that there aren't and really can't be any "true" answer to this question for the ages.
This all doesn't even factor in the fact that there are constantly new ROMs, new cooks, new programs, new advances, the scene is always changing. So, even if you could pin down the "best ROM right now, but who knows what'll happen tomorrow or next week.
All in all, it's an impossible question to answer. All you can do is to use the process of elimination based on other people's opinions and your own experience. Sorry. Good luck. Happy flashing!
I actually don't mind seeing one of the threads pop up every now again...
Anyway it's all been said though I would add that Speed and Stability are not always mutual inclusive.
I find:
KareemNBA's and JoshKoss's to be the fastest.
PDACornerv25/ DVH Good Speed/Stability
Crc's Most Stable
I just got on old, broken Xda Orbit. It suffered from the not so uncommon CPU soldering issue ... but I managed to fix it by disassembling it and adding some cardboard. The added pressure to the CPU appears to have fixed the loose connection and it has been running stable for three days now.
With the hardware issues resolved it's time to get a well rounded ROM running on the device.
Sadly there doesn't appear to be a single one that is both up to date, stable and with reasonably free RAM in order to properly run applications with high memory usage like Opera 10 and navigation software - both of which will be the main focus of the device.
I have no real issues with any WWE ROMs, but since I currently reside in Germany I prefer a localized build.
I'd also prefer a WM 6.5 ROM for its enhanced "touch" controls, but I wouldn't mind a properly configured WM 6.1 build either.
Shady's ROMs are fast and stable with sufficient free RAM but suffer from the unforgivable and seemingly unfixable SMS bug.
MossisROM 3.0 is stable and mostly bug-free, but has some outdated components and is using way too much RAM - 16mb or less during normal usage.
Other ROMs I have tested are having WiFi or GPRS connectivity issues, others come with a lot of unwanted and outdated software etc.
I would actually be willing to go through the effort of cooking a ROM by myself, but finding a good enough documentation or a toolkit to do so is much harder than expected. I also have very limited experience with older WM devices.
I know that most of the developers here have moved on to other devices but maybe some of the remaining ones can give me some tips or tricks and set me up with a kitchen. (Iggord, maybe? You have build some interesting, albeit a bit overloaded ROMs lately)
Maybe I don't even have to cook anything - I'd also be perfectly fine with a clean ROM that I can simply customize after installation - and there is the perfect ROM for me and maybe I just haven't found it yet.
So - any help is appreciated and should I end up cooking something myself, I'll gladly give back to the remaining community.
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i always recomend Andrew82s clean rom, its the best one ive used with 30% memory usage. if you havnt tried it id put it on your todo list.
Rn
Thanks, that's the one I already ended up with. I guess WM 6.5 simply isn't a good idea on this device.
I just whish there were a kitchen for Andrew82's ROM or a way to localize it from WWE.
Rom request thread in development forum. Did you guys read the sticky?
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