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just planning to get 1, but not sure about simlock thing, any1 knows? cheers!
There is a thread somewhere, might be on Voda eForum.
Device is unlocked, apparently Voda never lock their handsets.
Very true, Voda TP2 is unlocked.
I was using my O2 sim while waiting for the number transfer.
svyatko said:
Very true, Voda TP2 is unlocked.
I was using my O2 sim while waiting for the number transfer.
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thats what im doing at the moment - only thing no web or email at the mo as the phone has the vodaphone internet settings on it
hi there I got mine from mobiles direct on a vodafone and is has no branding on it not even sim lock but I dont know about vodafone themselfs though. sorry
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just planning to get 1, but not sure about simlock thing, any1 knows? cheers!
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voda tp2 is unlocked as confirmed by ma mate stunno! phone is however voda branded to the hilt so its up to you if ya not bothered with their branding! due to demand for tp2 they had no time to simlock the device prior to release. they however simlock most of their handsets!
shingers5 said:
voda tp2 is unlocked as confirmed by ma mate stunno! phone is however voda branded to the hilt so its up to you if ya not bothered with their branding! due to demand for tp2 they had no time to simlock the device prior to release. they however simlock most of their handsets!
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I've had several Voda handsets, none of them have ever been locked
TP2, Samsung's, Sony Ericsson's, Nokia's, none of them locked.
There is a post somewhere on their eForum somewhere that says they have a policy of not locking their handsets, couldn't find it but did find this:
'Except for the BlackBerry Storm, we will supply a Network Unlock Code (NUC) for you if you've bought a phone from us on either pay monthly or pay as you go. A NUC allows you to use non-Vodafone SIM cards with your Vodafone phone.'
So even if it was locked they would provide you with the code
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I've had several Voda handsets, none of them have ever been locked
TP2, Samsung's, Sony Ericsson's, Nokia's, none of them locked.
There is a post somewhere on their eForum somewhere that says they have a policy of not locking their handsets, couldn't find it but did find this:
'Except for the BlackBerry Storm, we will supply a Network Unlock Code (NUC) for you if you've bought a phone from us on either pay monthly or pay as you go. A NUC allows you to use non-Vodafone SIM cards with your Vodafone phone.'
So even if it was locked they would provide you with the code
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mate ring them again............NUC(network unlock codes) cost £20 so you get what you paid for! not all voda phones come unlocked as i am sure they will confirm. i have had many many phones from voda and all locked...........n95 8gig being a popular one, f490, s700 to name a few! i know what i am talking about mate as i own a phone shop!
why do you think mobile shops make so much money from unlocking................... some handsets do come unlocked but only a few and will defo be on contract and not pay and go!
I've never asked them, just read the info from their forum
I like the fact they 'accidental' left out the part about it costing £20 though!
This may seem like a dumb question, but I've searched the forums and can't find any info.
Is the Telstra version of the Desire locked or unlocked?
I ask because the "rooting guide"(lol at that every time.... ) stickied in the development forum has 2 different methods depending on if the phone is branded/locked. It's obviously branded but I remember finding somewhere that it was unlocked.
If any other Telstra users have rooted their Desire feel free to chime in with your experiences
Cheers
Hey mate,
I got my Desire on contract from Telstra and it was delivered Unlocked.
Mal
Bought mine in store, and it is unlocked. The Telstra Desires come unlocked... too bad they are packed full of Telstra garbage.
Whiterin said:
Bought mine in store, and it is unlocked. The Telstra Desires come unlocked... too bad they are packed full of Telstra garbage.
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Yeh, I'm getting sick of my apps screen being cluttered up with their crap. Most of it is just internet links with icons...the least they could've done is written a nice android app to handle all their crap.
I've also noticed the Telstra links don't work on wifi because they try to access "wap.telstra.com/etc/etc/" which is only available while using the mobile network.....
Pretty keen on switching to a cleaned up rom. Especially looking for to busybox and proper linux style access. There's something satisfying about knowing you can ssh to your phone; Something I miss from my old jailbroken iphone 3g...don't hate, I got it for free
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Bought mine in store, and it is unlocked. The Telstra Desires come unlocked... too bad they are packed full of Telstra garbage.
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Seriously???? If this is the case, I'm truly surprised (and delighted).
They should be unlocked if they are selling them outright to use on other networks. I bought mine from Telstra outright to run on the 3 network so I could slip my sim in and continue the one year to go HTC Diamond contract on the $29 ($150 calls) cap plan with $8 (500 Mb) plan. In the thread you mention, a few people are complaining that the guide is incorrect. If your looking to do a rootie tootie on it, go to modaco and follow the guide to the letter or you could get hit with a brickie wikki - http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/307365/14-jun-r6-riskfreeroot-htc-desire-rooting-guide-now-with-hboot-0-80-and-os-to-1-21-support/
oh, and I used the "0.80.xxxx or below" method as I had 0.75.xx boot-loader, 1.16.xx ROM/Build
Is there any advantage to getting a desire thats been nowhere near o2/Voda/3/Orange/T-Mobile ?
The proper sim free Desire will not have any network branding or apps installed and it will be first in line for any updates released by HTC. Plus, you won't have to run the risk of debranding the phone and losing its warranty
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
YES!
Orange have mutilated the Desire, ****ed around with the apps, broken the browser, and muddled up the voicemail - it's a car crash.
T-Mo have been kinder, but they decided to volume limit the damned thing, which is hugely annoying when your favourite tune come on.
I don't know what Voda, O2 or 3 have done to theirs.
However, you can always debrand a carrier-subsidised phone by flashing the ROM, it's an easy procedure (search - there are loads of guides) but it might void your warranty. If the operator's ROM is available in the wild then you might be able to reflash it before sending it off for repair, but you cannot flash an older bootloader over a newer one which might put you in a pickle in 18 months time if your debranded phone's been updated a few times OTA and only old operator ROMs are available.
Therefore, your best bet is to get it unbranded, you could eithe pay £380 full whack for it or get it from Carphone Warehouse or online and get the benefit of the subsidy as well.
It's an amazing phone, man, AMAZING!
£380
where ??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just whack "htc desire" into Google shopping. Saw it on Amazon for £390 or so earlier today.
I think play.com are doing it for 389 now.
me thinks cpw will be 399.99 richer tomorrow
and I will be 130 poorer (sold my iphone 3gs for 270 today)
are the cpw ones proper sim free's?
cirian75 said:
me thinks cpw will be 399.99 richer tomorrow
and I will be 130 poorer (sold my iphone 3gs for 270 today)
are the cpw ones proper sim free's?
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Mine was, best phone I've ever owned...
And to mirror what others are saying - ALWAYS get SIM-free phones if you can
me thinks it's a plan
Nexus Ones a silly money sim free.
cirian75 said:
me thinks it's a plan
Nexus Ones a silly money sim free.
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It'd be first to get 'proper' FroYo but I don't like the trackball - one more thing to possibly break and if anything like my missus BlackBerry it'll stop working within a couple of months!
EddyOS, your local to me lol
also, I had a blackberry 8800
went through 5 trackballs in a year, but £10 for a bag 5, meh, wasn't fussed
Then they integrated in on the 1st Bold
I just hope the desire gets ginger bread.
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£380
where ??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
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!£350 at 3 unlocked unbranded
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Generic HTC Desire on Vodafone in the uk
I cant see any way my desire is locked, or modified by Vodafone - i used to avoid them in the past as Id seen the mess they made of some handsets, but to the best of my knowledge the one I got from them 6 weeks ago is completely standard.
I know it's not locked to any networks, already tried a few different sims in and it works fine, and nothing in the Software Info suggests locking or customisation.
If you need a contract of some sorts it seems a good plan, its a free phone and my contract works out at about £400 over the 18 months anyway, not to mention all the data text and calls i get in the deal
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!£350 at 3 unlocked unbranded
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yeah 3 has it for that price but not many will offer it as they get less commission if they sell on payg but who knows you might get lucky.. oh apparently they need you to buy a £10 top up now so total is £360
steveapp said:
I cant see any way my desire is locked, or modified by Vodafone - i used to avoid them in the past as Id seen the mess they made of some handsets, but to the best of my knowledge the one I got from them 6 weeks ago is completely standard.
I know it's not locked to any networks, already tried a few different sims in and it works fine, and nothing in the Software Info suggests locking or customisation.
If you need a contract of some sorts it seems a good plan, its a free phone and my contract works out at about £400 over the 18 months anyway, not to mention all the data text and calls i get in the deal
S
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Check your FW version in Settings>About phone>Software version
if you've got x.xx.161.x then it's a Vodafone branded handset, if it's x.xx.405.x then it's a SIM-free handset
just rang 3 "3" stores
nope on the sim free version
£389.99 on Play.com
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...?_$ja=tsid:11518|cc:|prd:13665745|cat:Mobile+
Guess I was lucky with my Three handset.
I took one out on a contract and got a totally unlocked and unbranded handset.
Apparantly it was because they were having problems getting three branded handsets so all the shops were send unlocked/unbranded ones to help with the demand!
Cool eh!
Phil
I have it right now in my hand
£399.95 sim free from CPW
setting it up.
EddyOS said:
Check your FW version in Settings>About phone>Software version
if you've got x.xx.161.x then it's a Vodafone branded handset, if it's x.xx.405.x then it's a SIM-free handset
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It is interesting that Vodafone (UK) are not branding the Desire - their unlocked policy is well known.
When I compare a Vodafone handset to my unbranded (bought that way) Desire, the Vodafone handset has even less 'bloat-ware'!!!
As commented elsewhere, I will get any Firmware upgrades first - but I don't understand Vodafone's logic: -
No branding.
Unlocked.
So why not just hand out default unbranded HTC phones, if you're not going to control the experience...??
MMB.
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone in Toronto area would know a place to buy the HTC Desire Z that isn't from Bell?
Or if it is from Bell, contains no Bell software (unbranded) and is unlocked?
I've been looking and haven't had any luck.
and has anyone noticed that Rogers is falling behind in the phone model area? Their phones are kind of getting outdated...
Thanks!
I uphave one unlocked with rogers....yeh there wayy behimd in terms of android. I suggest checking out kijiji.com or look at ebay or craigslist. If all else fails pm me and ill find you some online.
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I purchased an unlocked/unbranded Desire Z on Ebay to use in the states on the AT&T network. It was a North American Version which had the correct 3G bands for ATT. Had a good seller and good experience but the phone was quite pricey. They go for anywhere between $550 and $650 US.
I would suggest buying it from Bell via FutureShop or BestBuy.
You don't have to get a plan if you do that, plus they offer their extended warranties which still cover you if you root the phone, etc (though you should still make it appear stock).
You can flash the official WWE ROM which is basically stock HTC Sense. It won't have the Bell apps, and you don't need to root or anything to flash the WWE ROM (I think). You just need to make a 'goldcard' which is just a specially formatted SD card.
rewen said:
I would suggest buying it from Bell via FutureShop or BestBuy.
You don't have to get a plan if you do that, plus they offer their extended warranties which still cover you if you root the phone, etc (though you should still make it appear stock).
You can flash the official WWE ROM which is basically stock HTC Sense. It won't have the Bell apps, and you don't need to root or anything to flash the WWE ROM (I think). You just need to make a 'goldcard' which is just a specially formatted SD card.
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Yeah I was gonna buy one from Bell, but I don't know any trustworthy sites I can buy the unlock code from, which was why I opened this thread, but anyone here know one?
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Yeah I was gonna buy one from Bell, but I don't know any trustworthy sites I can buy the unlock code from, which was why I opened this thread, but anyone here know one?
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Be careful, because G2 owners have found big problems when they unlock their phones, like not being able to connect to any network after that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835673
Cellunlock.net with the code bbrocks50 for half price. You can find the phone listed a couple different ways. Either by first looking up htc or by first looking up bell. One is chapter than the other. I paid 15.
Zero issues unlocking. I think the issues are limited to g2.
I'm unlocked with Telus currently..and I used HTCsimUnlowNow.com. Seemed to work fine..the only thing was it was initially $15, but then I had to send them another $10 (after paying the 15) because of the Bell carrier or some excuse. So far i've had no problems..and i'm even able to use my BB data plan with the HTC despite Telus telling me it most likely wouldnt work lol.
I was wondering if I'm able to remove Bell's software using a program (TitaniumBackup, for example) or do I have to go through that whole process of flashing this and that to unbrand it?
And how bothersome is the Bell software?
..Although I'm gonna do it anyway but I don't have time right now to mod the phone.
You need root and it takes a lot of time to do it with titanium. It's easier to flash the wwe rom. But the apps aren't too annoying. The lack of htc locations is annoying
To elaborate on my last msg (which I wrote in a rush)..
It's more painful and takes longer to remove the apps manually as you need to root and then use Titanium's force remove method, one by one, which reboots the phone each time and takes forever.
Alternatively you could root and then S-OFF and delete those apps with the root file manager.
Or, the easiest/quickest way imho is to borrow/make a goldcard, download the euro HTC Sync, the WWE Rom, and run the ROM install program. It does the rest of the work for you
I was gonna go buy the phone today but Bell won't sell it unless I go on a plan.
I called up several different places, all the same reply, they won't let the phone go unless it's going out with a plan.
Does anyone know where I could buy it in and around Toronto?
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I was gonna go buy the phone today but Bell won't sell it unless I go on a plan.
I called up several different places, all the same reply, they won't let the phone go unless it's going out with a plan.
Does anyone know where I could buy it in and around Toronto?
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I asked at our local Best Buy (Oshawa) yesterday and they said they can sell the phone without a plan, no problem.
I bought mine today, you can buy it at WirelessWave or Telephone booth for the retail price.
I did notice the timestamp on the text messages are incorrect though, does anyone else have this problem?
I bought mine brand new on ebay for $375, t-mobile branded.. paid $15 to unlock it.
I suggest watching for a cheap one on ebay, maybe even try to bargain with some sellers.
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I suggest not buying from bell, or anything that is compatible with bell, unless you need it for ATT US or in Australia. Reason is that they use the wrong frequencies for use in Canada and would lock you to ROBELUS (the old evil phone companies). The US version of the vision is better... still compatible with robbers, but also with the best things that have happened to telecommunications in canada.... ever.
It sounds like we should start an exchange:
T-Mobile/Wind compatible phones exchanged for Bell/Telus/Rogers/AT&T compatible phones...
I'm on AT&T and I'd love to find the Bell Desire Z for purchase at a reasonable price. All the prices I've seen are ~$650 but the phones retail price is $500. Maybe I'm just not used to Canadian taxes... can my Canadian brethren enlighten this ignorant American as to how much the phone would cost unsubsidized after taxes?
You can get them straight from Bell for $565, with tax (13% on 499.95). If you look on kijiji and CL you can get them anywhere from $400-$500.
I bought mine yesterday for $480, no tax, and factory unlocked. It was brand new and sealed and came with a receipt for the warranty.
A lot of people are fooled into paying $600-$650 for an unlocked phone because sellers try to tell them that it costs $80-$100 to unlock it. But if people would take the time to look they would find you can get it unlocked for $25.
MyNameIsWepeel said:
A lot of people are fooled into paying $600-$650 for an unlocked phone because sellers try to tell them that it costs $80-$100 to unlock it. But if people would take the time to look they would find you can get it unlocked for $25.
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You can get it locked for free now, thanks to the fantastic work of scotty. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390
I'm on Rogers and I'm having a heck of a time trying to find out. Everyone wants to charge an arm and a leg. Trying to trade my Xperia X10 and some cash for a Desire Z.
So I'm subscribed to the Verizon M( forum, there are no ROM posts popping up over there. Just so I'm clear, can roms from this forum be used on a Verizon M9 or no?
Thanx for answering my noob question.
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So I'm subscribed to the Verizon M( forum, there are no ROM posts popping up over there. Just so I'm clear, can roms from this forum be used on a Verizon M9 or no?
Thanx for answering my noob question.
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I have never flashed a custom ROM before but as long as you unlock your bootloader through HTC Dev, you should be good to go
Verizon does not allow bootloader unlock. No root for Verizon until exploit is found
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Verizon does not allow bootloader unlock. No root for Verizon until exploit is found
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Oh wow I wasn't aware of that. I bought the dev edition straight from HTC instead of going through AT&T so that I could avoid all of the carrier bloatware., but I didn't realize that they also lock down the bootloader. Verizon and AT&T are really POS carriers. They either lock you into a 2 year contract for a subsidized phone or make you pay full price for the phone over 12-18 months and then lock down the bootloader so you can't actually own your device. My advice, unless you have Verizon (HTC doesn't sell a CDMA unlocked phone), buy directly from HTC and you can do the bill me later option with Paypal and then just pay for it over a year. We need to stop giving carriers our money until they actually change their ridiculous practices.
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Oh wow I wasn't aware of that. I bought the dev edition straight from HTC instead of going through AT&T so that I could avoid all of the carrier bloatware., but I didn't realize that they also lock down the bootloader. Verizon and AT&T are really POS carriers. They either lock you into a 2 year contract for a subsidized phone or make you pay full price for the phone over 12-18 months and then lock down the bootloader so you can't actually own your device. My advice, unless you have Verizon (HTC doesn't sell a CDMA unlocked phone), buy directly from HTC and you can do the bill me later option with Paypal and then just pay for it over a year. We need to stop giving carriers our money until they actually change their ridiculous practices.
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AT&T phones are easy to unlock the bootloader (choose Other @ htcdev.com) / Only Verizon blocks unlocking
theloneranger08 said:
Oh wow I wasn't aware of that. I bought the dev edition straight from HTC instead of going through AT&T so that I could avoid all of the carrier bloatware., but I didn't realize that they also lock down the bootloader. Verizon and AT&T are really POS carriers. They either lock you into a 2 year contract for a subsidized phone or make you pay full price for the phone over 12-18 months and then lock down the bootloader so you can't actually own your device. My advice, unless you have Verizon (HTC doesn't sell a CDMA unlocked phone), buy directly from HTC and you can do the bill me later option with Paypal and then just pay for it over a year. We need to stop giving carriers our money until they actually change their ridiculous practices.
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what's the difference in paying the carrier for the device over a period of time or giving it all to htc at once? You don't actually think the carriers are going to give you a discount do you?
I will give you that the locked bootloader is annoying I don't believe we're providing enough $$ to verizon to make a difference.
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what's the difference in paying the carrier for the device over a period of time or giving it all to htc at once? You don't actually think the carriers are going to give you a discount do you?
I will give you that the locked bootloader is annoying I don't believe we're providing enough $$ to verizon to make a difference.
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That's the whole point, if you do the ATT Next plan or the equivalent plan for Verizon, you will pay the full price of the phone over 12-18 months (depending on which plan you choose), but they give you a phone with a locked bootloader and a SIM lock. If you go through HTC though, you will pay full price (obviously), but you can opt to do bill me later with PayPal and pay it off over a year with no interest. By going through HTC though, you can get a SIM unlocked phone and if you go with the dev edition, the bootloader comes unlocked (no need to go through HTC Dev). Unfortunately for Verizon users, if you want a CDMA phone that has an unlocked bootloader, then you'd need to buy an unlocked (SIM) HTC One M9 from Sprint and then unlock the bootloader via HTC Dev since HTC doesn't sell CDMA phones themselves. To be honest, I'm never going to buy a carrier branded phone again. They come with too much bloatware, they're sim locked, and you have to wait for the carrier to push software updates. In summary, it's ridiculous that carriers allow you to buy a phone, but not really own it.
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Oh wow I wasn't aware of that. I bought the dev edition straight from HTC instead of going through AT&T so that I could avoid all of the carrier bloatware., but I didn't realize that they also lock down the bootloader. Verizon and AT&T are really POS carriers. They either lock you into a 2 year contract for a subsidized phone or make you pay full price for the phone over 12-18 months and then lock down the bootloader so you can't actually own your device. My advice, unless you have Verizon (HTC doesn't sell a CDMA unlocked phone), buy directly from HTC and you can do the bill me later option with Paypal and then just pay for it over a year. We need to stop giving carriers our money until they actually change their ridiculous practices.
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I bought mine off the HTC website for Verizon and the bl can't be unlocked as far as I know. Lol unless I totally read your post wrong. I do apologize if I did
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I bought mine off the HTC website for Verizon and the bl can't be unlocked as far as I know. Lol unless I totally read your post wrong. I do apologize if I did
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You actually mean you can't? Did you try htcdev?
Balian67 said:
You actually mean you can't? Did you try htcdev?
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Yeah I tried, it's the Verizon model I don't think it's anything different than what you get in store.
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Verizon does not allow bootloader unlock. No root for Verizon until exploit is found
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This looks like an old thread but just to clarify there are exploits we can use a Java Card to unlock just find someone nearest you in the Verizon HTC One M9 Java Card thread. We have s-off and root. (just in case someone new see's this thread)