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Windows Update?

With all these unofficial ROM's, is it actually safe to use windows update for windows mobile?

it will actually never works since
1. There are no working wa/ota servers
2. There is no IU flag in imgfs
3. Most roms have IU loader removed

i always get an code0x000000000 (No update available). I have a LG KS20. Is this update Device specific or how does it work?

because of what sp3dev said and lazyness on ms's part
it is not Device specific because it dont work on any devices i know of

Um.....?
so u can't update ur device?

seems so, a feature with no function....

[Q] Extracting ROM/Firmware from the OS Update. Possible?

I'm sure a lot of you must have thought about this. Since the NoDo update would supposedly start rolling out anytime this week, I'm wondering if it would be possible to extract the ROM from the update?
Assuming that the update process is similar to iOS (since we have to update through Zune) and all the files are downloaded to the PC first, it is possible that the ROM is also downloaded to the PC from where it can be extracted.
If this works, will it be possible to use that ROM/Firmware and flash it on other devices? Say a NoDo update ROM from an AT&T Focus could be used to revive (mine and a lot of other) Samsung Focus devices.
Someone might have to play with the Microsoft Windows Update Service Protocol a bit to get this idea to work, but I'm sure it would be worth the effort.
I would have given it a shot myself but I recently had to return the HD7 review unit I had and my personal Samsung Focus is laying dead.

actualy update could have OEM SOFTWARE PARTS .. like new kernel or driver update .. also - RRUU counts as FFU ( full flash update ) and could not flash partial update .... since ms distribute updates in packages for corresponding os parts . not full image

I think WP7 update process is more complicated than iOS. WP and its build system support differential update, not only full flash update. So the update file could be just part of system files.

There is a com dll you can look into ZuneWmdu.dll, but i was not able to create a com instance in c#. (Maybe i was quiet stupid yesterday or there is really a problem). You should be able with the api to make your own update tool, but since the phone does the request for the firmware/update/rom this could be a little bit complicated.

Flow WP7 said:
There is a com dll you can look into ZuneWmdu.dll, but i was not able to create a com instance in c#. (Maybe i was quiet stupid yesterday or there is really a problem). You should be able with the api to make your own update tool, but since the phone does the request for the firmware/update/rom this could be a little bit complicated.
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Hmm from what I've heard, the Zune client uses the Zune pass through connection to the phone which checks for updates on its own.
The problem is that if it is a delta update then it would be impossible to build a complete system image from the update.
I wonder if it still would be possible to use ROMs from another similar device but replace driver and device specific files from the original device. That would be sort of a custom ROM.

Samsung Focus Ringtones Missing

I have updated to Mango. and it was running slow so i decided to do a wipe. once i did, i noticed almost all my ringtones i had prior to mango are gone.!! anyone have a zip file of the pre-mango ringtones?

Please post stock WP7.5 Ringtones
Hi, there this is off topic, but do you think you could please upload the stock ringtones from your Samsung Focus in a zip archive here? Thank you!

I assume you are talking about the at&t ringtones. you can get them back if you flash the original factory at&t 7004 firmware which can be found in the samsung focus firmwares and then update your phone to mango via zune. somewhere along the upgrade process they are mucked up in the rom becuase of how mango changed how ringtones can be added to your phone. you could also probably just pull them from the firmware files and then load them on your phone via zune.

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I assume you are talking about the at&t ringtones. you can get them back if you flash the original factory at&t 7004 firmware which can be found in the samsung focus firmwares and then update your phone to mango via zune. somewhere along the upgrade process they are mucked up in the rom becuase of how mango changed how ringtones can be added to your phone. you could also probably just pull them from the firmware files and then load them on your phone via zune.
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Anyone else notice this? I flashed to 7004 and performed the update through Zune, and I'm still missing them.
Edit: Actually, I may have wiped due to GPS being broken...
Trying again.

This is so strange...anyone know if it happens to a straight out of the box Focus? (Instead of those manually flashed back to 7004?)

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This is so strange...anyone know if it happens to a straight out of the box Focus? (Instead of those manually flashed back to 7004?)
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I don't think you can get a Focus with mango shipped on it so I am sure it is the same on all of them, they have probably fixed it with the Focus S though.

Unlocking/Jailbreaking where to start?

So I've been browsing around for days trying to find where to bring in my unlocking endeavors, any help? Links, or anything of the sort. I have an hd7s with mango 7720 if that helps at all. Thanks.

I think you'd have to flash your phone with either a custom rom or a pre nodo rom then use chevron unlock and use ansars or petbede guide to upgrade to mango while retaining the unlocks. I personally have a legit $99 unlock on my pro 7 with nodo and followed petbede guide using ansars u2m7720 1.2 tool to upgrade to mango you also need to have HTC connection setup installed as its been removed from the market place.
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I think you'd have to flash your phone with either a custom rom or a pre nodo rom then use chevron unlock and use ansars or petbede guide to upgrade to mango while retaining the unlocks. I personally have a legit $99 unlock on my pro 7 with nodo and followed petbede guide using ansars u2m7720 1.2 tool to upgrade to mango you also need to have HTC connection setup installed as its been removed from the market place.
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im in a similar situation except im on nodo trying to go to mango
I can sideload HTC connection setup but it keeps saying that the database does not exist on the device
any suggestions?

@jaygriggs: A sideloaded version wouldn't work anyhow. It need the marketplace signature or you can't run it without already having interop-unlock, which makes it rather useless for the purpose of interop-unlocking your phone.
Ansar claims to have a way to interop-unlock HTC on Mango, but last I saw the mods had locked his thread for breaking the XDA-Devs forum rules (requesting donations before he'd send you the app).

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@jaygriggs: A sideloaded version wouldn't work anyhow. It need the marketplace signature or you can't run it without already having interop-unlock, which makes it rather useless for the purpose of interop-unlocking your phone.
Ansar claims to have a way to interop-unlock HTC on Mango, but last I saw the mods had locked his thread for breaking the XDA-Devs forum rules (requesting donations before he'd send you the app).
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i was beginning to think a signature was the issue.
Most apps dont work on a cdma device
I'd have no problem donating if i knew it was going to work

Where would I begin to flash a custom rom? Or roll back to chevron unlock?

I'm having the same questions/issues also. I have an HTC Trophy, was on NoDo, and I have a developer-unlock (student unlock, so I can sideload 3 apps)
I followed these instructions:
Download/Install: TouchXplorer and HTC Connection applications
Download/Install: The App Deploy file (that deploys CustClear.provxml to the My Docs\My Ringtones folder)
I then did this:
1) use TouchXplorer to copy the CustClear.provxml file to the \Windows\ folder
2) Run HTC Connection and click the Checkbox
3) Repeat Step 1 again (to put that file back in the \Windows\ folder)
4) Update to the next version using Zune (one below Mango)
5) Repeat Steps 1 thru 4, which now updates to Mango
After Mango was installed, I am still at the student/developer unlock (up to 3 sideloaded apps). What did I do wrong, and what do I need to do to get Mango with unlimited sideloads?
Thanks in advance.

@Avazee: You have to use an upgrade path which gives you 7720 (Mango) and the HTC Update for Mango in different steps. This used to be done by using the beta upgrade path.
The problem is that 7720 re-locks the device against ID_CAP_INTEROPSERIVES, so you have to use Connection Setup to interop-unlock it. The HTC update doesn't re-lock the device, but it prevents you from using Connection Setup to make changes (it also breaks some other homebrew, like TouchXplorer). If you get them at the same time, which is how MS is currently pushing the Mango update, your phone gets re-locked and you lose the ability to unlock at the same time - very unfortunate.

You could use This, no idea if it works tough. I have been upgrading to Mango with the U2B2 tool

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@Avazee: You have to use an upgrade path which gives you 7720 (Mango) and the HTC Update for Mango in different steps. This used to be done by using the beta upgrade path.
The problem is that 7720 re-locks the device against ID_CAP_INTEROPSERIVES, so you have to use Connection Setup to interop-unlock it. The HTC update doesn't re-lock the device, but it prevents you from using Connection Setup to make changes (it also breaks some other homebrew, like TouchXplorer). If you get them at the same time, which is how MS is currently pushing the Mango update, your phone gets re-locked and you lose the ability to re-lock at the same time - very unfortunate.
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Thanks for the reply. What do you mean by HTC Update? I didn't get any HTC update...
How do I use an upgrade path that gives me Mango and this 'HTC Update' in different steps?
Thanks for your help.

Avazee said:
Thanks for the reply. What do you mean by HTC Update? I didn't get any HTC update...
How do I use an upgrade path that gives me Mango and this 'HTC Update' in different steps?
Thanks for your help.
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I really hope someone can prove me wrong (I have been reading and looking for weeks on this forum and yet to see otherwise). For HTC going to Mango and retaining interop-unlock, all I have seen mentioned that works is starting with a Shubert ROM (spelling?) and using U2B2 method or a cooked ROM.
BUT, this does not work as these ROMs will not work on the CDMA version WP7 phones (which VZW HTC Trophy is one, sprint is another). I have not seen anyone take the stock NoDo CDMA ROM that came on our phones and get to Mango interop-unlocked. There is no pre-nodo CDMA ROM in existence.
Anyone, please prove me wrong as I would really like to be wrong.

I don't currently know of a way to avoid getting the HTC update bundled with the Mango update. The approach used previously was to install the Mango beta, interop-unlock it, then upgrade to 7720 (Mango release), and since that didn't include the HTC update you could interop-unlock it too. You could then install the HTC update if you wished.
For users following the retail update path, the HTC update is simply part of the Mango (7403->7720) update.

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how do i know if my phone is jailbrake or not????

Your Phone is unlocked if you can sideload Applications Rom our PC. You are unlocked if you have flashed a preunlocked ROM or if you are a Developer and unlocked it with the Unlock tool OR if you have used the ChevronWP Unlock Tool

If I used Nokia Care Suite to get Tango...

I used Nokia Care Suite to get the AT&T Tango update for my cyan Lumia 900. Since then, I've seen a couple of older posts (pre-Tango) that talk about not being able to update your phone through Zune if you used Nokia Care Suite to update a device, but the thing I can't lock down is if that is only if the ROM used was not an official one. Does anyone have any feedback on this issue? Have I hosed myself a little and now I can ONLY update using NCS or since I used the official ROM, am I still good to update through Zune whenever another update is available? Thanks, and sorry if I'm asking a questions that's been answered before .

Relax. If you flashed the official ROM designated for your phone then you're good to go. The Zune update installs the latest ROM in steps (3 in the latest update) file by file and leaving data/settings in place. Flashing wipes the device and replaces everythng with a factory fresh ROM image that already includes both the latest OS and Nokia firmware tweaks.
Cheers

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I used Nokia Care Suite to get the AT&T Tango update for my cyan Lumia 900. Since then, I've seen a couple of older posts (pre-Tango) that talk about not being able to update your phone through Zune if you used Nokia Care Suite to update a device, but the thing I can't lock down is if that is only if the ROM used was not an official one. Does anyone have any feedback on this issue? Have I hosed myself a little and now I can ONLY update using NCS or since I used the official ROM, am I still good to update through Zune whenever another update is available? Thanks, and sorry if I'm asking a questions that's been answered before .
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One of the great things about xda, things do go untried. Maybe there has been no success in breaking the OS, but the people around here push everything else.
I didn't know for sure if using Nokia Care suite would allow me access to the future updates. So, I used the Suite to downgrade from tango. Plugging into Zune immediately triggered the Tango update packages, all 3 of them.
I figure if it works going backwards, it will work going forwards. So, as the last responder said...Relax, you're good dog.

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One of the great things about xda, things do go untried. Maybe there has been no success in breaking the OS, but the people around here push everything else.
I didn't know for sure if using Nokia Care suite would allow me access to the future updates. So, I used the Suite to downgrade from tango. Plugging into Zune immediately triggered the Tango update packages, all 3 of them.
I figure if it works going backwards, it will work going forwards. So, as the last responder said...Relax, you're good dog.
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Excellent news. Thanks for the reply's

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Excellent news. Thanks for the reply's
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In Nokia Care Suite, if you want to experiment and flash your phone with an update not yet available for your product code, you can rename another ROM with your own code and it will work, but then your phone is "walshed" - ie; won't update through Zune but you can always reflash.
As mentioned before, as long as you use the ROM with name matched to your own product code, Zune will work fine.