I used Nokia Care Suite to get the AT&T Tango update for my cyan Lumia 900. Since then, I've seen a couple of older posts (pre-Tango) that talk about not being able to update your phone through Zune if you used Nokia Care Suite to update a device, but the thing I can't lock down is if that is only if the ROM used was not an official one. Does anyone have any feedback on this issue? Have I hosed myself a little and now I can ONLY update using NCS or since I used the official ROM, am I still good to update through Zune whenever another update is available? Thanks, and sorry if I'm asking a questions that's been answered before .
Relax. If you flashed the official ROM designated for your phone then you're good to go. The Zune update installs the latest ROM in steps (3 in the latest update) file by file and leaving data/settings in place. Flashing wipes the device and replaces everythng with a factory fresh ROM image that already includes both the latest OS and Nokia firmware tweaks.
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dougthug said:
I used Nokia Care Suite to get the AT&T Tango update for my cyan Lumia 900. Since then, I've seen a couple of older posts (pre-Tango) that talk about not being able to update your phone through Zune if you used Nokia Care Suite to update a device, but the thing I can't lock down is if that is only if the ROM used was not an official one. Does anyone have any feedback on this issue? Have I hosed myself a little and now I can ONLY update using NCS or since I used the official ROM, am I still good to update through Zune whenever another update is available? Thanks, and sorry if I'm asking a questions that's been answered before .
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One of the great things about xda, things do go untried. Maybe there has been no success in breaking the OS, but the people around here push everything else.
I didn't know for sure if using Nokia Care suite would allow me access to the future updates. So, I used the Suite to downgrade from tango. Plugging into Zune immediately triggered the Tango update packages, all 3 of them.
I figure if it works going backwards, it will work going forwards. So, as the last responder said...Relax, you're good dog.
alodar1 said:
One of the great things about xda, things do go untried. Maybe there has been no success in breaking the OS, but the people around here push everything else.
I didn't know for sure if using Nokia Care suite would allow me access to the future updates. So, I used the Suite to downgrade from tango. Plugging into Zune immediately triggered the Tango update packages, all 3 of them.
I figure if it works going backwards, it will work going forwards. So, as the last responder said...Relax, you're good dog.
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Excellent news. Thanks for the reply's
dougthug said:
Excellent news. Thanks for the reply's
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In Nokia Care Suite, if you want to experiment and flash your phone with an update not yet available for your product code, you can rename another ROM with your own code and it will work, but then your phone is "walshed" - ie; won't update through Zune but you can always reflash.
As mentioned before, as long as you use the ROM with name matched to your own product code, Zune will work fine.
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WithinRafael said:
STOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP. We're actually going back and forth with Microsoft on this to prevent a Super Walshed phone (one that cannot be fixed without flash). Please wait
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Pretty much says it all........
Probably best to stay away until theres more news on this.
When there is I will update this post.
If you’ve used the unofficial ChevronWP7 updater tool and then received a 80180048 error message in Zune, you have a very easy solution for that, at least if you are a HTC HD7 owner.
I recieved this error when I tried to install security update 7392. So I downloaded the latest official image for my phone from this site and flashed it to my O2 DE HD7. After that there was no 80180048 error during the update process and phone has now 7392 build.
You can find at leas 16 branded ROMs for HD7 right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=783
I Walsh'd my HTC Surround and everything worked fine for me...
I'm guessing there is a chance that the update will work for anyone. If you wanna risk it.
Chris has released a tool that should fix any problems that can't update. It's also been tested by MS.
i have a walshed hd7 and encountered the same problem when updating to build 7392.
i was dumbfounded when the update worked on my other laptop.
just sharing guys.
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Chris has released a tool that should fix any problems that can't update. It's also been tested by MS.
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I had used the Chevron update tool to get NoDo initially (then weirdly got it again!) - and The 'De-walshing tool' worked great for me too....
good thread
good thread
So good it had to be spammed twice
I still can't update my Omnia 7. Still on 7008. Damn!
Hey guys,
I was wondering if there was anyone else who had run into this issue, or if anyone had a way that might solve this problem for me.
I have a Samsung Focus through AT&T - back in April (I think) I did the VPN to Hungary method to update my Focus to NoDo. Everything looked fine at the time, but I guess there was something different about the image that got put on my Focus, as now that I have updated to Mango, my phone says that Marketplace is not currently available in my region/country
I believe this is because some part of the phone thinks I am in Hungary, and Hungary is not part of the Mango beta.
Any thoughts on how to fix this? Sadly when I did the Mango update, my phone was syncing with Zune as a guest, which apparently means it does not keep a backup image...would have been nice to know that earlier too unfortunately.
Thanks!
codechinchilla said:
Hey guys,
I was wondering if there was anyone else who had run into this issue, or if anyone had a way that might solve this problem for me.
I have a Samsung Focus through AT&T - back in April (I think) I did the VPN to Hungary method to update my Focus to NoDo. Everything looked fine at the time, but I guess there was something different about the image that got put on my Focus, as now that I have updated to Mango, my phone says that Marketplace is not currently available in my region/country
I believe this is because some part of the phone thinks I am in Hungary, and Hungary is not part of the Mango beta.
Any thoughts on how to fix this? Sadly when I did the Mango update, my phone was syncing with Zune as a guest, which apparently means it does not keep a backup image...would have been nice to know that earlier too unfortunately.
Thanks!
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I don't know if there's a more convinient solution, but what you certainly can do is flash a stock ROM and then let Zune do all required updates until WP7 is build 7392 again. From that point on you should apply the mango update again and be then able to use the marketplace again.
dkp1977 said:
I don't know if there's a more convinient solution, but what you certainly can do is flash a stock ROM and then let Zune do all required updates until WP7 is build 7392 again. From that point on you should apply the mango update again and be then able to use the marketplace again.
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Ah awesome! I have not had experience with flashing a stock ROM before - I will take a look around the forums. I assume I will have to download the stock AT&T focus image, and then use Zune to "restore" the image?
Thanks for the advice!
codechinchilla said:
Ah awesome! I have not had experience with flashing a stock ROM before - I will take a look around the forums. I assume I will have to download the stock AT&T focus image, and then use Zune to "restore" the image?
Thanks for the advice!
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Yeah, you gotta get the appropriate ROM for your device (and if you want to keep the addtional AT&T apps and such, take care of getting an AT&T ROM). I'd start from scratch though, so no rollback of any backup afterwards. Takes more time, but you'll definitely be on the safe side then.
Finally got my Focus working completely with Mango!
For anyone else who has this problem - i went here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131022) to get the focus ROM - flashed all the way back to 7004 - updated to 7008, had to unbrand (not sure why, Zune wouldn't give me nodo) to NoDo, and then do the regular update process to Mango.
Whew
I've been trying to find an answer for this to no avail. I had unlocked my phone using the methods described here (really in ansar's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1101344). My problem is, I rolled back to Nodo hoping to get the Tmob firmware update without having to flash the phone and wipe everything. I also rolled back Zune to 4.7. But, the only thing I get prompted to update to is Mango 7403. Which I thought would only happen if 1. You had the UpdateWP.exe to point your Zune client to the MS test servers and 2. There was a file to initiate on the phone that allowed it to get the Mango update. So, after completing deleting the Zune client and reinstalling, I still only get the Mango beta update message, which leads me to believe there is something with the phone that is keeping it from seeing the updates from Tmobile. And maybe it has to do with the Update_Mango.xap that alters something on the phone. I guess my question is, by using the methods in this thread and Ansar's, would that keep your phone from receiving firmware updates from the carriers? Or has anyone who has unlocked up to Mango beta, then went back to Nodo on Tmob, received the firmware update? Thanks a lot!
Also, wasn't sure if this should be in General, Q&A or what. Chose this section since it stems from the use of hacks in Development section. Please feel free to direct me accordingly.
kwill said:
I've been trying to find an answer for this to no avail. I had unlocked my phone using the methods described here (really in ansar's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1101344). My problem is, I rolled back to Nodo hoping to get the Tmob firmware update without having to flash the phone and wipe everything. I also rolled back Zune to 4.7. But, the only thing I get prompted to update to is Mango 7403. Which I thought would only happen if 1. You had the UpdateWP.exe to point your Zune client to the MS test servers and 2. There was a file to initiate on the phone that allowed it to get the Mango update. So, after completing deleting the Zune client and reinstalling, I still only get the Mango beta update message, which leads me to believe there is something with the phone that is keeping it from seeing the updates from Tmobile. And maybe it has to do with the Update_Mango.xap that alters something on the phone. I guess my question is, by using the methods in this thread and Ansar's, would that keep your phone from receiving firmware updates from the carriers? Or has anyone who has unlocked up to Mango beta, then went back to Nodo on Tmob, received the firmware update? Thanks a lot!
Also, wasn't sure if this should be in General, Q&A or what. Chose this section since it stems from the use of hacks in Development section. Please feel free to direct me accordingly.
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I think if you update to Mango beta, you possibly miss the firmware update of HTC for HTC phones, or people who update to Mango earlier.
Just roll all the way back to 7004 and 7008 if you have HTC device and get the update with New Radio and Firmware.
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I think if you update to Mango beta, you possibly miss the firmware update of HTC for HTC phones, or people who update to Mango earlier.
Just roll all the way back to 7004 and 7008 if you have HTC device and get the update with New Radio and Firmware.
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Ok, maybe I will just roll all the way back. I just didn't want to as I have to reinstall EVERYTHING and set my phone back up the way I like it. I assume that you saw the update after rolling back as I saw your other thread?
I rolled back to my NoDo update that I had right before upgrading to the first Mango beta. I still had the beta version of Zune, and the phone prompted me to update the HTC Update, which installed fine, and then I continued to upgrade to beta 2.
Keep in mind that the HTC Update is going out slowly, not all at once, so not everyone will get prompted all the time.
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I rolled back to my NoDo update that I had right before upgrading to the first Mango beta. I still had the beta version of Zune, and the phone prompted me to update the HTC Update, which installed fine, and then I continued to upgrade to beta 2.
Keep in mind that the HTC Update is going out slowly, not all at once, so not everyone will get prompted all the time.
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Ok, well that's reassuring. I think my problem is that I didn't do a backup of Nodo before I updated to the Mango Beta. Later on (after provisioning the phone and such to receive the Mango beta), I rolled back to Nodo, set up everything again and then did a backup. You are right though in the fact that I could just not possibly have received the HTC update as of yet.
Did you unbrand your phone? That was my problem. I have mango installed but my phone was unbranded. All I did was rebrand it and got my firmware update from Tmobile for my HTC HD7.
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Thanks man
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IF anyone can help I would be much apprecitive.
I have a problem where I was on Mango 7720 RTM and I re-flashed ansars 7004 ROM.
Now when I hook my phone up to zune, it says my version, 7004, is up to date. I did this a while back to get my phone out of a "super walshed" mode and it updated just fine. Now I can't update past 7004 because it says I'm already updated. Please help if anyone can, I've been researching this like crazy.
The420Dank said:
IF anyone can help I would be much apprecitive.
I have a problem where I was on Mango 7720 RTM and I re-flashed ansars 7004 ROM.
Now when I hook my phone up to zune, it says my version, 7004, is up to date. I did this a while back to get my phone out of a "super walshed" mode and it updated just fine. Now I can't update past 7004 because it says I'm already updated. Please help if anyone can, I've been researching this like crazy.
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+1 I'm in the same exact situation. Currently trying to do the unbranding method but it's not working. Might have to try the Hungary VPN method.
The420Dank said:
IF anyone can help I would be much apprecitive.
I have a problem where I was on Mango 7720 RTM and I re-flashed ansars 7004 ROM.
Now when I hook my phone up to zune, it says my version, 7004, is up to date. I did this a while back to get my phone out of a "super walshed" mode and it updated just fine. Now I can't update past 7004 because it says I'm already updated. Please help if anyone can, I've been researching this like crazy.
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guys i had the same problem i was trying all i could do to solved the problem for almost 10 hrs, yes i said 10 hrs with three computers.
Finally, i ended up using ChevronWP7 Updater. now i have nodo
Don't use the chevron updater it could prevent you from getting future updates.
I just don't understand why it says I'm already up to day when I'm not. It should let me update. I've tried installing different Zune versions but have had no luck. I'm downloading Zune version 4.7 to see if that works. We will see. I will post my results back.
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I just don't understand why it says I'm already up to day when I'm not. It should let me update. I've tried installing different Zune versions but have had no luck. I'm downloading Zune version 4.7 to see if that works. We will see. I will post my results back.
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I already tried that, still doesn't work.
When I posted on wpcentral about it, several users posted saying that fresh out of the box devices weren't getting any updates either. They were 7004 too.
Perhaps MS turned off all updates until tomorrow?
Updates are probably all turned off until tomorrow for Mango. They can't get rid of the No-Do updates completely though because I don't want to be in 7004 forever Dx
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Updates are probably all turned off until tomorrow for Mango. They can't get rid of the No-Do updates completely though because I don't want to be in 7004 forever Dx
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I agree, this seems to be the most logical answer. I guess wait until the mango update is released then try again. If it still doesn't work, well I'm sure there are ways lol.
ryude said:
I agree, this seems to be the most logical answer. I guess wait until the mango update is released then try again. If it still doesn't work, well I'm sure there are ways lol.
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And I've been researching like crazy Dx
The only reason I reverted back to original ROM was to chevron-unlock my Focus, then unbrand it...
Btw, anyone know if unbranded phones get the update first or AT&T phones? Otherwise, I'll just registry edit the mobile operator thing again.
XboxOmac said:
And I've been researching like crazy Dx
The only reason I reverted back to original ROM was to chevron-unlock my Focus, then unbrand it...
Btw, anyone know if unbranded phones get the update first or AT&T phones? Otherwise, I'll just registry edit the mobile operator thing again.
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AT&T will be the first to get the update, tomorrow. Unbranded phones will probably receive it on the same day.
So glad to see these posts, thought I was the only one, I started on Sunday and all day yesterday I could get it to 7008 but no further, now today I cant get past 7004. Hoping tomorrow will open things back up and I can update to Mango! I have a Samsung Focus on AT&T.
I think it would help a lot if we all kept this thread up to date on when the updates start working again and what exactly you did to get it to update.
i have the same problem reverting my wifey mozart to 7004. at the end i use the unplug cable method and it worked. currently her phone now on 7392(NoDo) with chevron-unlock
hopes this help
fulat said:
i have the same problem reverting my wifey mozart to 7004. at the end i use the unplug cable method and it worked. currently her phone now on 7392(NoDo) with chevron-unlock
hopes this help
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Unplug cable method?
I guess I'll wait until tomorrow. Don't know if a time frame is planned. I'm on EST so I wonder if they are going by EST or PST. Doubt the updates will be up by 12:01 Am. Guess that's me being too hopefull.
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I think its a great idea as well, to keep this thread updated and followed.
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I noticed that the versions of my 7004 does not match the versions of the official 7004.
AT&T Original
Total Storage: 7.39 GB
Available Storage: 6.85 GB
OS version: 7.0.7004.0
Firmware revision number: 2103.10.10.1
Hardware revision number: 3.1.0.7
Radio software version: 2103.10.10.1
Radio hardware version: 0.0.0.3
Bootloader version: 4.10.0.1
chip SOC version: 0.36.2.0
Ansars UCJK2 AT&T
Total Storage: 7.39 GB
Available Storage: 6.95 GB
OS version: 7.0.7004.0
Firmware revision number: 2103.10.11.2
Hardware revision number: 3.1.0.7
Radio software version: 2103.10.11.2
Radio hardware version: 0.0.0.3
Bootloader version: 4.11.0.9
chip SOC version: 0.36.2.0
Ryude, do you think that would be making a difference?
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The420Dank said:
Ryude, do you think that would be making a difference?
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I honestly do not know, it seems like many people in that thread received the update without problems. I am just making observations, whether they are relevant I cannot say.
I guess the only thing we can do is wait and see if Mano even launches tomorrow or not but when it does, see if we can update and go from there.
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Anyone notice that the update for the Lumia 900 to 7.8 is not there any longer? Also Care Suite has an update, when you update to the newer version your not able to login to the Care Suite external site any longer. When I plug my phone up now says my firmware is not upgradable?
Its all still there on my ver 1.7 of Navifirm, I did hear they were taking away the ability to update using this method and it looks like that is now true, Try and get the old version back as I am looking at Navifirm now and everything is as it was the last time I flashed a 900.
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blake .l said:
Anyone notice that the update for the Lumia 900 to 7.8 is not there any longer? Also Care Suite has an update, when you update to the newer version your not able to login to the Care Suite external site any longer. When I plug my phone up now says my firmware is not upgradable?
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I am in the same boat. The update is no more available and i am stuck on 7.5. I am getting only 2135.2301.8779.12223 as the latest update for my Lumia 900 ATT (RM-808). Tried updating through Zune but no luck. I have Navifirm 1.7+ and 1.9 but cant find the update now.
Does anyone know any alternative?
rahul016 said:
I am in the same boat. The update is no more available and i am stuck on 7.5. I am getting only 2135.2301.8779.12223 as the latest update for my Lumia 900 ATT (RM-808). Tried updating through Zune but no luck. I have Navifirm 1.7+ and 1.9 but cant find the update now.
Does anyone know any alternative?
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It's not luck that's missing... 10 posts below this one answers your question.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128295
"Seek and ye shall find"
As of the time I writing this, navifirm 1.7+ is no longer usable, and returns unauthorized faults. Some good news is the later versions of N Care Suite (I tried 2013.1.3.4) are still able to download firmwares from Production External without needing credentials. Only the latest firmware is available and you'll need to know the product code before hand.
Some versions of the 7.8 have been withdrawn, as far as I know due to high profile reported bugs. Those issues have since been corrected, and for Lumia 900 ATT (RM-808), I'm seeing 2175.2307.8862.13100 as the latest on NCS.
Also, I think by now, any Lumia 900 can get the 7.8 upgrade via Zune.
On another note regarding NCS, I could never get NCS PSTforStore to recognize the rm-808 in particular, on versions after 2012.22.1.3 installed on WinXP 32-bit. PSTforStore only reports "no connection", but Fuse always sees the phone and reports 1 connection. Has anyone else seen this and found what the problem is? I do see other threads here where the same issue occurred, but no solution.