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Will forced Mango provisioning keep you from receiving carrier firmware updates?

I've been trying to find an answer for this to no avail. I had unlocked my phone using the methods described here (really in ansar's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1101344). My problem is, I rolled back to Nodo hoping to get the Tmob firmware update without having to flash the phone and wipe everything. I also rolled back Zune to 4.7. But, the only thing I get prompted to update to is Mango 7403. Which I thought would only happen if 1. You had the UpdateWP.exe to point your Zune client to the MS test servers and 2. There was a file to initiate on the phone that allowed it to get the Mango update. So, after completing deleting the Zune client and reinstalling, I still only get the Mango beta update message, which leads me to believe there is something with the phone that is keeping it from seeing the updates from Tmobile. And maybe it has to do with the Update_Mango.xap that alters something on the phone. I guess my question is, by using the methods in this thread and Ansar's, would that keep your phone from receiving firmware updates from the carriers? Or has anyone who has unlocked up to Mango beta, then went back to Nodo on Tmob, received the firmware update? Thanks a lot!
Also, wasn't sure if this should be in General, Q&A or what. Chose this section since it stems from the use of hacks in Development section. Please feel free to direct me accordingly.

kwill said:
I've been trying to find an answer for this to no avail. I had unlocked my phone using the methods described here (really in ansar's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1101344). My problem is, I rolled back to Nodo hoping to get the Tmob firmware update without having to flash the phone and wipe everything. I also rolled back Zune to 4.7. But, the only thing I get prompted to update to is Mango 7403. Which I thought would only happen if 1. You had the UpdateWP.exe to point your Zune client to the MS test servers and 2. There was a file to initiate on the phone that allowed it to get the Mango update. So, after completing deleting the Zune client and reinstalling, I still only get the Mango beta update message, which leads me to believe there is something with the phone that is keeping it from seeing the updates from Tmobile. And maybe it has to do with the Update_Mango.xap that alters something on the phone. I guess my question is, by using the methods in this thread and Ansar's, would that keep your phone from receiving firmware updates from the carriers? Or has anyone who has unlocked up to Mango beta, then went back to Nodo on Tmob, received the firmware update? Thanks a lot!
Also, wasn't sure if this should be in General, Q&A or what. Chose this section since it stems from the use of hacks in Development section. Please feel free to direct me accordingly.
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I think if you update to Mango beta, you possibly miss the firmware update of HTC for HTC phones, or people who update to Mango earlier.
Just roll all the way back to 7004 and 7008 if you have HTC device and get the update with New Radio and Firmware.

Strike_Eagle said:
I think if you update to Mango beta, you possibly miss the firmware update of HTC for HTC phones, or people who update to Mango earlier.
Just roll all the way back to 7004 and 7008 if you have HTC device and get the update with New Radio and Firmware.
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Ok, maybe I will just roll all the way back. I just didn't want to as I have to reinstall EVERYTHING and set my phone back up the way I like it. I assume that you saw the update after rolling back as I saw your other thread?

I rolled back to my NoDo update that I had right before upgrading to the first Mango beta. I still had the beta version of Zune, and the phone prompted me to update the HTC Update, which installed fine, and then I continued to upgrade to beta 2.
Keep in mind that the HTC Update is going out slowly, not all at once, so not everyone will get prompted all the time.

prjkthack said:
I rolled back to my NoDo update that I had right before upgrading to the first Mango beta. I still had the beta version of Zune, and the phone prompted me to update the HTC Update, which installed fine, and then I continued to upgrade to beta 2.
Keep in mind that the HTC Update is going out slowly, not all at once, so not everyone will get prompted all the time.
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Ok, well that's reassuring. I think my problem is that I didn't do a backup of Nodo before I updated to the Mango Beta. Later on (after provisioning the phone and such to receive the Mango beta), I rolled back to Nodo, set up everything again and then did a backup. You are right though in the fact that I could just not possibly have received the HTC update as of yet.

Did you unbrand your phone? That was my problem. I have mango installed but my phone was unbranded. All I did was rebrand it and got my firmware update from Tmobile for my HTC HD7.

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Rolled back from 7720 to 7004 and Zune says my software is up to date?!?!

IF anyone can help I would be much apprecitive.
I have a problem where I was on Mango 7720 RTM and I re-flashed ansars 7004 ROM.
Now when I hook my phone up to zune, it says my version, 7004, is up to date. I did this a while back to get my phone out of a "super walshed" mode and it updated just fine. Now I can't update past 7004 because it says I'm already updated. Please help if anyone can, I've been researching this like crazy.

The420Dank said:
IF anyone can help I would be much apprecitive.
I have a problem where I was on Mango 7720 RTM and I re-flashed ansars 7004 ROM.
Now when I hook my phone up to zune, it says my version, 7004, is up to date. I did this a while back to get my phone out of a "super walshed" mode and it updated just fine. Now I can't update past 7004 because it says I'm already updated. Please help if anyone can, I've been researching this like crazy.
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+1 I'm in the same exact situation. Currently trying to do the unbranding method but it's not working. Might have to try the Hungary VPN method.

The420Dank said:
IF anyone can help I would be much apprecitive.
I have a problem where I was on Mango 7720 RTM and I re-flashed ansars 7004 ROM.
Now when I hook my phone up to zune, it says my version, 7004, is up to date. I did this a while back to get my phone out of a "super walshed" mode and it updated just fine. Now I can't update past 7004 because it says I'm already updated. Please help if anyone can, I've been researching this like crazy.
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guys i had the same problem i was trying all i could do to solved the problem for almost 10 hrs, yes i said 10 hrs with three computers.
Finally, i ended up using ChevronWP7 Updater. now i have nodo

Don't use the chevron updater it could prevent you from getting future updates.

I just don't understand why it says I'm already up to day when I'm not. It should let me update. I've tried installing different Zune versions but have had no luck. I'm downloading Zune version 4.7 to see if that works. We will see. I will post my results back.

The420Dank said:
I just don't understand why it says I'm already up to day when I'm not. It should let me update. I've tried installing different Zune versions but have had no luck. I'm downloading Zune version 4.7 to see if that works. We will see. I will post my results back.
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I already tried that, still doesn't work.
When I posted on wpcentral about it, several users posted saying that fresh out of the box devices weren't getting any updates either. They were 7004 too.
Perhaps MS turned off all updates until tomorrow?

Updates are probably all turned off until tomorrow for Mango. They can't get rid of the No-Do updates completely though because I don't want to be in 7004 forever Dx

XboxOmac said:
Updates are probably all turned off until tomorrow for Mango. They can't get rid of the No-Do updates completely though because I don't want to be in 7004 forever Dx
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I agree, this seems to be the most logical answer. I guess wait until the mango update is released then try again. If it still doesn't work, well I'm sure there are ways lol.

ryude said:
I agree, this seems to be the most logical answer. I guess wait until the mango update is released then try again. If it still doesn't work, well I'm sure there are ways lol.
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And I've been researching like crazy Dx
The only reason I reverted back to original ROM was to chevron-unlock my Focus, then unbrand it...
Btw, anyone know if unbranded phones get the update first or AT&T phones? Otherwise, I'll just registry edit the mobile operator thing again.

XboxOmac said:
And I've been researching like crazy Dx
The only reason I reverted back to original ROM was to chevron-unlock my Focus, then unbrand it...
Btw, anyone know if unbranded phones get the update first or AT&T phones? Otherwise, I'll just registry edit the mobile operator thing again.
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AT&T will be the first to get the update, tomorrow. Unbranded phones will probably receive it on the same day.

So glad to see these posts, thought I was the only one, I started on Sunday and all day yesterday I could get it to 7008 but no further, now today I cant get past 7004. Hoping tomorrow will open things back up and I can update to Mango! I have a Samsung Focus on AT&T.

I think it would help a lot if we all kept this thread up to date on when the updates start working again and what exactly you did to get it to update.

i have the same problem reverting my wifey mozart to 7004. at the end i use the unplug cable method and it worked. currently her phone now on 7392(NoDo) with chevron-unlock
hopes this help

fulat said:
i have the same problem reverting my wifey mozart to 7004. at the end i use the unplug cable method and it worked. currently her phone now on 7392(NoDo) with chevron-unlock
hopes this help
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Unplug cable method?

I guess I'll wait until tomorrow. Don't know if a time frame is planned. I'm on EST so I wonder if they are going by EST or PST. Doubt the updates will be up by 12:01 Am. Guess that's me being too hopefull.
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I think its a great idea as well, to keep this thread updated and followed.
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I noticed that the versions of my 7004 does not match the versions of the official 7004.
AT&T Original
Total Storage: 7.39 GB
Available Storage: 6.85 GB
OS version: 7.0.7004.0
Firmware revision number: 2103.10.10.1
Hardware revision number: 3.1.0.7
Radio software version: 2103.10.10.1
Radio hardware version: 0.0.0.3
Bootloader version: 4.10.0.1
chip SOC version: 0.36.2.0
Ansars UCJK2 AT&T
Total Storage: 7.39 GB
Available Storage: 6.95 GB
OS version: 7.0.7004.0
Firmware revision number: 2103.10.11.2
Hardware revision number: 3.1.0.7
Radio software version: 2103.10.11.2
Radio hardware version: 0.0.0.3
Bootloader version: 4.11.0.9
chip SOC version: 0.36.2.0

Ryude, do you think that would be making a difference?
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The420Dank said:
Ryude, do you think that would be making a difference?
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I honestly do not know, it seems like many people in that thread received the update without problems. I am just making observations, whether they are relevant I cannot say.

I guess the only thing we can do is wait and see if Mano even launches tomorrow or not but when it does, see if we can update and go from there.
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no update for me yet!

Hey guys,
I am so jealous that everyone has Mango and I dont. And upon further research, it seems like I havn't gotten any updates!
I have a LG Optimus 7 (e900 i believe). I am in Canada on Telus network. I do have a valid developer account on the marketplace and my phone is unlocked through the official tool.
I didn't force nodo (and now i dont even believe I have nodo since everyone had a higher OS version even before updating to mango).
I havnt installed anything other then apps from marketplace and no mods either.
My info
OS version: 7.0.7392.0
Firmware revision number: 1.0.5.10
Hardware revision number: 1.0.0.0
radio software version: 1.0.5.10
radio hardware version: 0.3.5.0
bootloader version: 1.5.1.0
Chip SOC version: 0.30.2.0
I tried reinstalling zune but the installer said I already have the latest version (4.8).
Should I just be patient? I dont want to do the whole force the update thing.

You have NoDo. In fact, you have NoDo plus the security update that was release a couple of months after NoDo. NoDO was 7390. The security update was 7392.
So, unless you want to try the disconnect trick, you should just be patient. You'll get your update notice within the next 2-3 weeks at the most.

I forced the update on O2 UK TouchHD7 by following these instructions
FOR THOSE THAT IT WONT WORK FOR READ THIS!
click check for update like normal but have your phone in hand and ready to set to airplane mode at the time where you would normally dc your computers internet.
I did not have to dc my computers internet, just the phones and it worked perfectly for me.
In my case I had to switch to airplane mode at ~34 seconds.
It helps if you time it the first time and see how long it takes to tell you your
phone is up to date and then subtract about a second. GL hope this helps
from this thread
http://wmpoweruser.com/simple-trick-to-force-the-mango-update/#

I'm on Telus with an HTC Surround. No updated yet. Using RTM version.

Just force the update

you can try this link :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1287505

Still no update, should I force it now or give it more time? I read somewhere that forcing may not update my drivers and I want everything to be udpated.

masfenix said:
Still no update, should I force it now or give it more time? I read somewhere that forcing may not update my drivers and I want everything to be udpated.
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I recommend against it. The update you'll get may well not be the specific update meant for your phone. There can be various issues with the wrong update.

masfenix said:
Still no update, should I force it now or give it more time? I read somewhere that forcing may not update my drivers and I want everything to be udpated.
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I'd force it. Microsoft themselves has referred to it as cutting in line. I believe I've also heard the guys on the Windows Phone Radio podcast (which is official) mention that they told their friends to do it.

same for my new HD7s
this same thing is going on with my new HD7s. Stuck at 7392. Just received it, yesterday, from AT&T. Do we know anything further about this?
matt

I'm on T-mobile with Omnia 7 and no update for me yet

If I used Nokia Care Suite to get Tango...

I used Nokia Care Suite to get the AT&T Tango update for my cyan Lumia 900. Since then, I've seen a couple of older posts (pre-Tango) that talk about not being able to update your phone through Zune if you used Nokia Care Suite to update a device, but the thing I can't lock down is if that is only if the ROM used was not an official one. Does anyone have any feedback on this issue? Have I hosed myself a little and now I can ONLY update using NCS or since I used the official ROM, am I still good to update through Zune whenever another update is available? Thanks, and sorry if I'm asking a questions that's been answered before .

Relax. If you flashed the official ROM designated for your phone then you're good to go. The Zune update installs the latest ROM in steps (3 in the latest update) file by file and leaving data/settings in place. Flashing wipes the device and replaces everythng with a factory fresh ROM image that already includes both the latest OS and Nokia firmware tweaks.
Cheers

dougthug said:
I used Nokia Care Suite to get the AT&T Tango update for my cyan Lumia 900. Since then, I've seen a couple of older posts (pre-Tango) that talk about not being able to update your phone through Zune if you used Nokia Care Suite to update a device, but the thing I can't lock down is if that is only if the ROM used was not an official one. Does anyone have any feedback on this issue? Have I hosed myself a little and now I can ONLY update using NCS or since I used the official ROM, am I still good to update through Zune whenever another update is available? Thanks, and sorry if I'm asking a questions that's been answered before .
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One of the great things about xda, things do go untried. Maybe there has been no success in breaking the OS, but the people around here push everything else.
I didn't know for sure if using Nokia Care suite would allow me access to the future updates. So, I used the Suite to downgrade from tango. Plugging into Zune immediately triggered the Tango update packages, all 3 of them.
I figure if it works going backwards, it will work going forwards. So, as the last responder said...Relax, you're good dog.

alodar1 said:
One of the great things about xda, things do go untried. Maybe there has been no success in breaking the OS, but the people around here push everything else.
I didn't know for sure if using Nokia Care suite would allow me access to the future updates. So, I used the Suite to downgrade from tango. Plugging into Zune immediately triggered the Tango update packages, all 3 of them.
I figure if it works going backwards, it will work going forwards. So, as the last responder said...Relax, you're good dog.
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Excellent news. Thanks for the reply's

dougthug said:
Excellent news. Thanks for the reply's
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In Nokia Care Suite, if you want to experiment and flash your phone with an update not yet available for your product code, you can rename another ROM with your own code and it will work, but then your phone is "walshed" - ie; won't update through Zune but you can always reflash.
As mentioned before, as long as you use the ROM with name matched to your own product code, Zune will work fine.

[Q] I got problem with Nokia care suite

Now I'm using lumia 900 with unofficial 7.8.
So, it is impossible to mount official 7.8 via zune, because zune recognises my lumia as the latest version.
To get official version, I gotta downgrade it to official 7.5.
First of all, I prepared 7.5 version of firmware.
Then, connected to Nokia care suite, I started recovery.
But, it gives me error message "No response received! Unable to verify response"
What's wrong with it? Plz someone get me right direction..