[WM6-HTC] get GSM neighbors cells info - Windows Mobile Software Development

Hello experts,
I always wonder if there's any way that we can get the informations (id, phone signal strength, bcch ...) from all the surround cells in Windows mobile 6 (with C#/C++ on my HTC touch HD). With RIL, we can only extract the info of current cell, but not the neighbors.
I'm inspired by this thread which was created in the forum by binary64:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610759
However without the code i still haven't figured how did he extract the values of the 6 towers...
Base on the research i've done, it seems impossible to get the real neighbors cell ID, however i'm really interested in the phone signal strength, bcch... that are possible to get. (as fieldtest.exe or what binary64 demonstrated)
Any idea would be precious to me, thank you very much

Delele thread
Sorry i made a mistake in posting the thread, moderateurs please delete this thread for me,
The good thread is here forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655076

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Meeting with HTC

Hi all
i'm an engineer doing R&D for Leaf Wireless in South Africa. We supply wireless solutions and HTC phones to Africa.
i'm going to Taiwan to meet and recieve training from the HTC engineers from monday the 12th. And since i've received so much help from XDA developers in the past i thought i'd offer.
if there are any customisation questions you have or HTC issues that are proving difficult to solve post them here. i'll ask the guys when i get there and try get some answers.
cheers,
Greg
hmm this thread sounds like it could take off.
i dont think you know what you got yourself into supaspud. i know lots of people are going to have questions and suggestions for htc.
i for one would like to see them implement a wheel mouse not unlike the one in the danger sidekick 3. that would make wm experience 100 times better.
also ask if crossbow will officially be released as an upgrade for the wizard.
when i think of more questions or suggestions ill reply again
?Why don't they make a full size (3.5" or whatever) screen in a cdma with more memory. Hell it doesn't even have to be vga. I use mine as a pda, if I wanted a tiny screen, I'd just get a damn phone.
hiimcliff said:
also ask if crossbow will officially be released as an upgrade for the wizard.
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Save yourself the bother. It would be up to the telco's to decide on releasing an official update and they would then pay HTC to build the rom. Expect that to happen about the same time as the telco's decide to donate all their profits to third world charities.
It's not a telco thing. If you are refering to the companies who re-brand the HTC machines (most of whom are not telcos) the decision will be based mostly on whether HTC will actually supply the ROM and at what cost if any. They would have a fairly good idea about what they are going to do for some machines as they own one such company that retails their machines (Dopod). Find out about possibility of Artemis crossbow ROM if you can
Linux
It would be interesting to get their opinion on Linux on the HTC platform, and whether they would consider contributing to the development of a well rounded Linux based phone environment.
Yes, their opinion on linux would be good to know
Ask if they have any future plans to support it officially.
Ask them what (apart from soldering the chips on and editing the rom file for memory alocation) needs to be done to make 128mb of ram work on UNIVERSAL (it origionally had it, so the motherboard supports it and it can work
Hello Leaf Wireless
Well, well Greg, I thought that Leaf would not come out of the closet.
I have been the source of information till now, but now please take the stage.
A few months back I introduced a few of your staff to the XDA site.
I am now and then fed tit bits of information which I share on the forum. The ROM 1.35 update is a good example.
There are some clever guys here and we can all all learn together.
The problems I raised with Renier was:
1. Storage card getting lost in Media Player
2. Windows 5 is full of unresloved problems, with the BT stack poor.
3. Battery life on 3G is shocking. I have upgraded to 1.27 to see if things improve.
4. I have an Email from Dan Mackie @HTC Eupope stating that an Major ROM upgrade would be released at the end of January 2007, "to resolve all known issues on the TyTN". Nothing has happened yet!
The issue with the storage card was a known issue and I was informed at the end of September that it would be sorted with the next upgrade.
It hasn't happened yet but I have noticed that the TyTN's that you have received do not have this problem.
Please feel free to contact me should you wish.
Enjoy the trip and let me have a copy of the new ROM before you leave.
Regards
A wish list would be for the keyboard have some kind of a lock to prevent it opening when retrieving from the pouch. I find that I often drop call on closing the keyboard.
The magnets in the pouch are also troublesome and cause screen rotation and also dropped calls at times when rotating back.
GPS in the Hermes
What component of software (hardware??) is missing in the Tytn compared to the Trinity to make the GPS work.
Thanks
Francisco
PS. My first post, and I would like to thanks all the excellent XDA-developers community for this great forum.
@SupaSpud: Tell them to produce a Hermes with VGA screen and GPS and 256Mb ROM, RAM....
Thanks.
SupaSpud said:
i'll ask the guys when i get there and try get some answers.
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Several people have already asked this question:
- How can we install 128Mb RAM on Universal?
HTC never replied.
sheesh...
wow... looks like I opened up pandora's box. i'm making a list of all the queries and i'll ask them on monday. keep em coming...
ps: i'll find out bout the rom now.
Hey SSpud - gr8 offer !
1. I''d like you to ask why they dont set the default Bluetooth (a2dp) to Stereo (and the bit rate / max bit rate to 40+) ... and generally fix stereo BT.
2. How do they acvtually work with customers (eg BT in the UK) .... I get the inpression they are extremely slow and unresponsive.
2. Camera - if even cheap sony ericons can have autofocus and macro settings why cant HTC ?
3. Stereo Jacks (3.5 or 2.5mm)
4. Direct access to microSD card
5. When will they update their FAQ's and trouble shooting guides beyond the patronising " check that it is turned on type " answers.
Thanks for this oportunity !!
(I'm especially intersted efor Artemis/ XDA orbit)
Hello 'Spud,
Apart from sorting/mentioning the listed problems here - especially the poor bluetooth stack IMO - please do bump the question regarding their future GPS roadmap for TyTN/Hermes series of phones.
Now that will make a true convergence of technologies.
Kind regards,
Mine is a small and trivial request... could they please please please fix the battery meter on the hermes... the [email protected] +/- 10% drives me nuts... wish we could get the +/- 1% like the other devices.
Hello Greg
SupaSpud said:
Hi all
i'm an engineer doing R&D for Leaf Wireless in South Africa. We supply wireless solutions and HTC phones to Africa.
i'm going to Taiwan to meet and recieve training from the HTC engineers from monday the 12th. And since i've received so much help from XDA developers in the past i thought i'd offer.
if there are any customisation questions you have or HTC issues that are proving difficult to solve post them here. i'll ask the guys when i get there and try get some answers.
cheers,
Greg
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Tell the guys at HTC to watch the XDA-Developers site to find out what's wrong with their phones and what features are needed to turn them into great devices - remember the IPhone is comming!
Basil
Tell them not to save cents in devices that cost hundred of dollars. For instance they use cheap and weak cpus like samsung (which has only ARMv4T) ot OMAP with it's low clock frequencies. Or they save memory and instead of using 128MB or more RAM! RAM is cheap! I'd like to see smaller touchscreen displays with VGA resolution! Look at the size and resolution of some nokias: E60 or E70. I'd like to see hermes (device with foldable keyboard) with gps, 624MHz intel cpu, 128MB RAM and 2.2 inch touchscreen in the near future!
YES! Tell them about this forum! Tell them not to do stupid things in locking their devices - this simply reduces their markets!
And tell them that maybe it is about time to see their x86 UMPC! Look at the sony vaio UX180P or UX280P!
Hi
hiimcliff said:
i for one would like to see them implement a wheel mouse not unlike the one in the danger sidekick 3. that would make wm experience 100 times better.
also ask if crossbow will officially be released as an upgrade for the wizard.
when i think of more questions or suggestions ill reply again
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I'm not exactly sure of what you mean about the wheel mouse. You mean like the one the Artemis has?
As for crossbow going onto the Wizard... i don't think that'll happen. But i'll double check.
Hi
cougargt said:
?Why don't they make a full size (3.5" or whatever) screen in a cdma with more memory. Hell it doesn't even have to be vga. I use mine as a pda, if I wanted a tiny screen, I'd just get a damn phone.
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I can't say too much, but if the rumour I heard is true, you might get something like that in the second half of this year. *wink-wink, nudge-nudge*

P3300 vs. P3600

Hi,
I am sure you've been discussing this topic million times, but I'm new in this forum and I'd like to get a good idea on subject PDa's.
In few weks I will buy one, I don't need at all UMTS, on the other hand I may find GPS very useful (I've read, in this forum as well, that P3300's GPS is more performing than P3600's); for this reason I'm heading towards P3300, but I heard that many are complaining about the processor (200 vs. 400 Mhz).
Any suggestion?
Part from processor (is it really a great problem to have 200 Mhz on P3300?) and UMTS, which are the main differences between these models?
How is it possible? More than 120 persons read this post and nobody wasl able to tell me the major differences between P3300 and P3600 part from UMTS, processor and GPS?
Because the information is right in front of you, on this site and on millions of other sites.
Look at all the different bits of info and make your decision from there! No-one is going to come here to tell you what to buy.
HPJ said:
Because the information is right in front of you, on this site and on millions of other sites.
Look at all the different bits of info and make your decision from there! No-one is going to come here to tell you what to buy.
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Thank you very much for your aprreciated kindness; then if you tell me where is "in front of you" I will be even happier; is it too difficult, or are you too intelligent to show me that? Don't you think that maybe in the world there's somebody who's not as expert as you and needs suggestions? Is it a too deep thought for you?
I don't need anybody telling me buy this or buy that, just if there are other differences part from the ones I cited.
there are loads of threads discussing this topic in both forums.
use the search!!
also, why don't you go into the stores and try out the devices for yourself! i too thought the p3600 was gonna be for me but once i tried them side by side the orbit was much more appealing.
go search.
Have you head, fingers and eyes? SEARCH! Do you read? READ!
....
Spare him a thought....he may be used to being 'spoon-fed'
Just copy and paste this "P3300 vs. P3600" in search and you will find the answer.
Size, Number of buttons, bus frequency, CPU, Jog Wheel, GPS, FM-radio,RollR, GSM, UMTS
Advantages of 3300: 1.better GPS chip and preinstalled quick-GPS 2.FM-radio, though it's sensitivity is very low 3. It has more hardware buttons, it's convinient as U can preset them as U wish. 4. Small size is the best it's value.
Advantages of 3600: 1.CPU-400Hz, 2.Bus frequency is 32Hz, not 16, therefore it is much faster 3.Jog-wheel and additional OK-button on side 4. it's more suitable if you gonna use several tasks at a time.5. UMTS might be useful in close future 6. Joystick is more habitual, more reliable(I have already had my RollR repaired though I possess my gudjet for couple months), and more usefull in games etc.
However, it's up to U to decide. If I were U, I would choose Trinity, in my opinion it is more modern
It's pretty simple. The 200 Mhz CPU is main disatvantage of the P3300. On the other side: If you don't play heavy 3D games it doesn't really matter. The P3300 is fast enough for everyday Windows work and navigation. For me the P3600 is a design desaster. The plastic looks really cheap. Just try both devices and make your own mind about them
cpu on p36 is not much faster. you can not compare p33 and p36 cpu because it is two completely different technologies. crappy gps chip on p36. crappy design.
buy it, use it for few days, and surely you will come back to store and change it to another device
Yes I agree. Samsung and Omap Platforms are not comparative through the CPU core frequency.
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One small note. 16Hz and 32Hz? It won't be a Hz. Do you think BUS width in bits perhaps.
Thank you very much Nemo8, the Only one, fdp24 and cosinusx.
The others could, at least, avoid wasting space in this forum with their craps!
I can not go in any shop (I am always around the world for business and currently I am in a country where they don't sell them).
I think that a forum is meant to help each others with adivses, if this is not the case in this forum I will not disturb you anymore!
orientale said:
Thank you very much Nemo8, the Only one, fdp24 and cosinusx.
The others could, at least, avoid wasting space in this forum with their craps!
I can not go in any shop (I am always around the world for business and currently I am in a country where they don't sell them).
I think that a forum is meant to help each others with adivses, if this is not the case in this forum I will not disturb you anymore!
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I tell you those people who talk (unhelpfully) smart and rubbish are not the smart people after all! Thats a fact so just ignore them.
nm8 said:
I tell you those people who talk (unhelpfully) smart and rubbish are not the smart people after all! Thats a fact so just ignore them.
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I absolutely agree! Thanks!
nm8 SMART GUY
nm8;
SMART MAN!
What did you do smart for the forum or others?
orientale;
if you ask the question learn to listen. otherwise don't bother use search, if you know how to do it.
...clowns...
The only thing people speaking "rubbish" in this thread mean is: first use search.
It's common knowledge around forums to use search first and then ask questions. If not you get numerous threads asking the same question over and over again.
fdp24
There are lot of tests in net carried out by numerous softwares confirming the fact the gudgets based on OMAP are very slow...though there exist battery status...
cosinusx
You're right, 32 bits width in 3600 and 16bits in 3300
orientale
One important thing left unsaid is that 3600 supports mini SDHC cards on customized WM6 ROMs made by lvsw and mun.There are sdhc drivers for Trinity&WM6 OS. As to 3300, it is yet unclear if it gonna support sdhc format or no. Ciao.
Sjaool said:
Just copy and paste this "P3300 vs. P3600" in search and you will find the answer.
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This is for you, before writing rubbish, inform yourself!!!
As you can see the clue given by you didn't give so many results!
Fora does not need your rubbish-topics!!!
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orientale Today 03:58 AM
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Why I like the P3300:
I like the HTC Rollr, its much more effective than a normal navigation pad if you want to scroll through lists very fast. Of course you can change the rep. speed of your nav pad manually in the system settings but you would have to change back and forth if it is too fast or slow. Also the Rollr-Ball doesn't make any sound if you go into any direction, sometimes usefull for me not to make any clicking sounds. Disadvantage is that you can not press and hold into any direction, for example for playing certain games.
The screen is also very good, brighter than my old Ipaq rx3715 which is already pretty bright. Eight hardware buttons on the front are excellent for handling the device. Only the GSM sound sucks sometimes, I hear mainly low frequencies but this applies only to half of my phone calls, I think mobile to mobile, but don't rely on that info.
The only thing that really sucks is that the Micro-SD card is under the battery and even under the SIM card. The CPU power is low but not too low for me, I'm not playing too much any more. The P3300 is a business phone and not a gaming device, I think they designed it for that purpose and did a pretty good job.
What I like about the P3600:
It has Mini-SD instead which is available at 4 GB much cheaper than Micro-SD and the car-jacket is outside and not under the battery. So I could swap my cards if I had this.
Only other thing I would want is the 400 Mhz processor, I don't care for UMTS at all.
What sucks about both devices:
No standard headset plug.
I bought the P3300 only because I knew that Win Mobile 6 was going to be released for it. If I knew that the P3600 would have it too I'd probably have taken the P3600. Now I only regret having the P3600 because I can't swap my memory card quickly, besides that there is nothing bad about it.

GPS activation coming!

First let me start off by saying thank you to everyone for all your great work and excellent posts, i have been a guest and member for a very long time but never need to post or had anything to contribute. thanks again now onto the GPS activation, i know this is a rather touchy subject for some so please dont bash if you disagree.
- I am switch from the 8525 (at&t) to the mogul (sprint) b/c i am saving 170$ although i loved my 8525. While learning and viewing the sprint forums for information about the mogul i found they have been having in depth conversation about the GPS.
1 - the gps is not believed to be stand alone
2 - the antenna issue from what i could read could or could not be there as sprint users took pictures on the phone and found what should be the gps antenna. but regard less when unlocked we should be able to A-GPS (a sort of triangulation between towers to give a approximate position).
3 - further proof that the gps must be able to work other than for emergency's is sprint's release of the EV-D0 rev. a ROM intended to unlock the gps in response to the TILT from ATT.
proof from HTC's site
"HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008. We would also like to extend our thanks to those customers that have taken the time to identify and report these issues to us."
It would be my assumption but this is where i could be wrong and would like to open debate. the ROM should be able to be hacked allowing other hermes to unlock theyre GPS for use with other applications.
hope this excites some of you and gives you hope of one day getting your "gps enabled" or disabled hermes depending on how you look at it to work with tom tom or telenav etc..
omg,
i can´t believit, jejej.
If coming true, this will be the best notice i´ve heard about hermes.
Many thanks dsh897, i will follow this thread
proof from HTC's site
"HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008. We would also like to extend our thanks to those customers that have taken the time to identify and report these issues to us."
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Do you have a direct link for this?
Amauta said:
Do you have a direct link for this?
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Google is your friend: http://www.america.htc.com/support/mogul/software-downloads.html
(about 2/3 the way down the page)
Thats a great news indeed
I still doubt abt the possibility of unlocking GPS in our Hermes.
As do I unfortunately, but more than happy to be proven wrong
noobish questions...
may i ask why only for the mogul? Is this something all hermes owners can benefit from?
great!!!
I hope so
hermes ๆๆๆๆ
I am a little confused...... I thought it was widely agreed that it was not a software problem but a hardware problem..
Have I missed something ?
I thought this too - that there was no actual antenna hooked up to the GPS pins or something?
I am not sure what's the hardware similarities between hermes and mogul, but gps for hermes was discussed before...look in to this thread for more details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291181
ai6908 said:
I am not sure what's the hardware similarities between hermes and mogul, but gps for hermes was discussed before...look in to this thread for more details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291181
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Yeah, I followed this thread at the time. Is the mogul a rebranded hermes or is it a different phone ?
from what i'm seeing the mogul hardware is similar to the tilt and not the tytn ( they carry the same processor).. this meens it's not compatible with the hermes..... i could be wrong
madamada31 said:
from what i'm seeing the mogul hardware is similar to the tilt and not the tytn ( they carry the same processor).. this meens it's not compatible with the hermes..... i could be wrong
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It looks that way it has a qualcomm prosessor instead of the samsung
Guys weve been here before, check the threads on this.
The GPS hardware has been woken up and functions correctly.....however the pins are not connected to a suitable antenna. The most i detected on the Hermes was 2 sattelites and these were not real fixes either.
A hardware mod is required to get the GPS working on the hermes which can be done however wouldnt it be easier to just grab a cheap bluetooth module and settle with it?
Here are link 1 and link 2 to the old GPS for Hermes threads. GPS driver link. And yes Hermes has Samsung processor, but Hermes' radio chip is made by Qualcomm And that is the chip that matters for GPS). But as Mr. Vanx said there is no available antenna.
maybe some people would be willing to do a hardware mod, if it can be done
mrvanx said:
Guys weve been here before, check the threads on this.
The GPS hardware has been woken up and functions correctly.....however the pins are not connected to a suitable antenna. The most i detected on the Hermes was 2 sattelites and these were not real fixes either.
A hardware mod is required to get the GPS working on the hermes which can be done however wouldnt it be easier to just grab a cheap bluetooth module and settle with it?
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I followed both threads at the time with great interest. I wasn't sure if on occassion, this was something new that had been discovered previously or something that could have been missed. Obviously in this instance neither is the case
dsh897 said:
First let me start off by saying thank you to everyone for all your great work and excellent posts, i have been a guest and member for a very long time but never need to post or had anything to contribute. thanks again now onto the GPS activation, i know this is a rather touchy subject for some so please dont bash if you disagree.
- I am switch from the 8525 (at&t) to the mogul (sprint) b/c i am saving 170$ although i loved my 8525. While learning and viewing the sprint forums for information about the mogul i found they have been having in depth conversation about the GPS.
1 - the gps is not believed to be stand alone
2 - the antenna issue from what i could read could or could not be there as sprint users took pictures on the phone and found what should be the gps antenna. but regard less when unlocked we should be able to A-GPS (a sort of triangulation between towers to give a approximate position).
3 - further proof that the gps must be able to work other than for emergency's is sprint's release of the EV-D0 rev. a ROM intended to unlock the gps in response to the TILT from ATT.
proof from HTC's site
"HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008. We would also like to extend our thanks to those customers that have taken the time to identify and report these issues to us."
It would be my assumption but this is where i could be wrong and would like to open debate. the ROM should be able to be hacked allowing other hermes to unlock theyre GPS for use with other applications.
hope this excites some of you and gives you hope of one day getting your "gps enabled" or disabled hermes depending on how you look at it to work with tom tom or telenav etc..
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That is very intresting, I'm intrigued to see if HTC rolls out a rom for Hermes like you describe (though I doubt it the Mogul has different chipsets, this issue has been explored at length in the forums). That said triangulation based GPS is already available for free for all windows mobile phones with the latest version of google maps, the thread is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348310
Install the new map, and click the my location option (right button top option) it will provide you with your triangulated location and is usually pretty close.
Seeing as Sprint (and therefore the Mogul) and AT&T (Hermes) use totally different radio technologies, I'm surprised that no one mentioned this earlier.
The Hermes is a GSM phone, operating on the GSM cell systems around the world.
The Mogul, being a Sprint phone, should function primarily on CDMA, just like Verizon.
That said, the hardware differences alone (processor aside) should make this discussion moot in my opinion. You just can't use a CDMA radio ROM on a GSM radio... and I would be highly surprised if the Mogul and Hermes were anything more than just similar looking phones.
Just as a side note... Google Maps now works moderately well on the Hermes, even without a GPS. I'm unsure if this is due to AT&T adding location information or to GMM being able to figure it out, but my phone knows where it is when I run GMM.
-Steve

To upgrade or to wait?

Hi everyone, I was wondering if the people in this forum could help me make up my mind on whether to get the TP2 or to wait for the Fortress?
In particular I was wondering just how much slower the EDGE network would be in real situations, a.k.a. checking the occasional web page and especially how much slower it would be in using logmein? (I seem to remember a few comparisons being done back when the Iphone was restricted to Edge and people saying that there wasn't as much difference as one would think because the bottleneck with web pages tended to be the browser rather than the network speed)
I am a repair technician who spends more time on the road than in the office and if I could have a phone with a decently big screen that would let me do a little light surfing, check my email, and remotely help customers via logmein sometimes without having to get my laptop from the car, boot it up and find a way to connect to the internet I think it would be absolute paradise.
Right now I have an 8525 that has been a very good phone over its lifetime even if I've never run any advanced ROM's on it. It had the stock WM5 when I got it and I upgraded it to the official WM6 from HTC when that came out however most of my playing with it's interface has been with SPB's software and I have to admit that Mobile Shell 3 is a more amazing interface than anything else I've ever seen or heard about elsewhere. Still, my 8525 is getting a bit old and it would be sooo nice to have a bigger screen for the web and logmein.
It's just that every time I read a new release date estimation on the Fortress it seems to get placed further and further in the future (the last one I read said something about Oct/Nov) and I'm beginning to wonder whether I shouldn't just buy the European version for now and then sell that on Ebay when ATT finally gets around to releasing theirs to help defray the cost of the Fortress?
Thus I come back to my original question, has anyone here had any experience surfing the web on the TP2 over EDGE? Or better yet has anyone here tried using logmein from this model phone on ATT's network? How have your experiences in doing either of these been? Is the upgrade worth it for the TP2 or should I really just wait for the Fortress and pray desperately that it is everything that I hope it will be? Well, have a nice day everyone.
Delete redundant thread
To read or to post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=492751
Shouldn´t be easier to post there instead of creating a new redundant thread?
To upgrade
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makingmessagelongersothatitposts
I appologize for not noticing the other thread before posting this one however having just read through that thread I don't see any information regarding my primary questions about how much of a difference in experience there is between 3G and Edge in light web browsing and using logmein (and whether the difference would be more a factor of the phone's resources and browser than the actual speed of the network connection). I will post my questions there as well if you think it will get answers though. Again, sorry for not seeing that thread first.

Mediocre A-GPS?

I have searched the forum for GPS accuracy and GPS fix time, but I still miss a respons on how well constructed this device is.
My A100 is not rooted.
The problem is that the GPS acts unreliable with slow or no fix time.
The TTFF (Time to first fix) changed for the better after i made a cold fix from scrach and within the 15 minutes I had a better signal faster.
But still not reliable. It seems like the almanac and ephemeris data is loaded but is it lost when the A100 reboots?!
I have no clue
Since this device doesn't support 3G the A-GPS is not assisted by the 3G network.
Is the GPS in the A101 more reliable and faster because it have 3G support?
But I still don't know what the expect?
Why this is important to me? Acer have not delivered any usefull answers. And I want to know what to expect. No test or reviews are useful enough to answer my question. I tried Cnet and I got aware of this forum.
:fingers-crossed:
Cold-start TTFF: < 50sec
Just made a discovery
In the service guide (You'll find the link in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297422&page=2) the cold-start TTFF in said to be less than 50 seconds.
I guess it puts my problems in perspective :highfive:
Unless we forget
I get this **** now:
•To prevent spam on the XDA forums, ALL new users prevented from posting outside links in their messages.
After approximately 10 posts, you will be able to post outside links. Thank you for understanding!
No! I don't understand! Prevent spam?! I use the Image Verification already.
And now I have to collect 10 stamps to open a treassure chest?!
I'm a good guy and you prevent me from continuing my righteous path to a knights's kingdom :cyclops:
So here are my links without.... ohh whatever...
I made another post in the Acer Tablet Forum (Post #17):
Ooop, "this guy hasn't posted 10 posts yet"
And this is made by some other guy:
Ohh, yeeah, sorry...
It's the same Broadcom GPS receiver
Guess what!...
:highfive:
So I guess I will continue my search
Bro root that thing and come to the dark side. This is with cm10 sitting on my deck. Locks instantaneously.
Sent from my A100 using xda premium
There will be root(beer)
Thanks. I like your answer :highfive:
Give me some time then I will return with some answers regarding if there is a warranty claim on my unit or not.
I will look into the rooting business by then. Hopefully the coming week.
My patience has been drawn to the limit.
There is no limit to what excuses a retail store clerk has to why he hasn't returned my calls. It's a definately maybe.
"Join the force, Luke!"
"I will look into the force"
In the meantime: "Call me Luke, Cowboy!"

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