Hi,
I am sure you've been discussing this topic million times, but I'm new in this forum and I'd like to get a good idea on subject PDa's.
In few weks I will buy one, I don't need at all UMTS, on the other hand I may find GPS very useful (I've read, in this forum as well, that P3300's GPS is more performing than P3600's); for this reason I'm heading towards P3300, but I heard that many are complaining about the processor (200 vs. 400 Mhz).
Any suggestion?
Part from processor (is it really a great problem to have 200 Mhz on P3300?) and UMTS, which are the main differences between these models?
How is it possible? More than 120 persons read this post and nobody wasl able to tell me the major differences between P3300 and P3600 part from UMTS, processor and GPS?
Because the information is right in front of you, on this site and on millions of other sites.
Look at all the different bits of info and make your decision from there! No-one is going to come here to tell you what to buy.
HPJ said:
Because the information is right in front of you, on this site and on millions of other sites.
Look at all the different bits of info and make your decision from there! No-one is going to come here to tell you what to buy.
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Thank you very much for your aprreciated kindness; then if you tell me where is "in front of you" I will be even happier; is it too difficult, or are you too intelligent to show me that? Don't you think that maybe in the world there's somebody who's not as expert as you and needs suggestions? Is it a too deep thought for you?
I don't need anybody telling me buy this or buy that, just if there are other differences part from the ones I cited.
there are loads of threads discussing this topic in both forums.
use the search!!
also, why don't you go into the stores and try out the devices for yourself! i too thought the p3600 was gonna be for me but once i tried them side by side the orbit was much more appealing.
go search.
Have you head, fingers and eyes? SEARCH! Do you read? READ!
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Spare him a thought....he may be used to being 'spoon-fed'
Just copy and paste this "P3300 vs. P3600" in search and you will find the answer.
Size, Number of buttons, bus frequency, CPU, Jog Wheel, GPS, FM-radio,RollR, GSM, UMTS
Advantages of 3300: 1.better GPS chip and preinstalled quick-GPS 2.FM-radio, though it's sensitivity is very low 3. It has more hardware buttons, it's convinient as U can preset them as U wish. 4. Small size is the best it's value.
Advantages of 3600: 1.CPU-400Hz, 2.Bus frequency is 32Hz, not 16, therefore it is much faster 3.Jog-wheel and additional OK-button on side 4. it's more suitable if you gonna use several tasks at a time.5. UMTS might be useful in close future 6. Joystick is more habitual, more reliable(I have already had my RollR repaired though I possess my gudjet for couple months), and more usefull in games etc.
However, it's up to U to decide. If I were U, I would choose Trinity, in my opinion it is more modern
It's pretty simple. The 200 Mhz CPU is main disatvantage of the P3300. On the other side: If you don't play heavy 3D games it doesn't really matter. The P3300 is fast enough for everyday Windows work and navigation. For me the P3600 is a design desaster. The plastic looks really cheap. Just try both devices and make your own mind about them
cpu on p36 is not much faster. you can not compare p33 and p36 cpu because it is two completely different technologies. crappy gps chip on p36. crappy design.
buy it, use it for few days, and surely you will come back to store and change it to another device
Yes I agree. Samsung and Omap Platforms are not comparative through the CPU core frequency.
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One small note. 16Hz and 32Hz? It won't be a Hz. Do you think BUS width in bits perhaps.
Thank you very much Nemo8, the Only one, fdp24 and cosinusx.
The others could, at least, avoid wasting space in this forum with their craps!
I can not go in any shop (I am always around the world for business and currently I am in a country where they don't sell them).
I think that a forum is meant to help each others with adivses, if this is not the case in this forum I will not disturb you anymore!
orientale said:
Thank you very much Nemo8, the Only one, fdp24 and cosinusx.
The others could, at least, avoid wasting space in this forum with their craps!
I can not go in any shop (I am always around the world for business and currently I am in a country where they don't sell them).
I think that a forum is meant to help each others with adivses, if this is not the case in this forum I will not disturb you anymore!
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I tell you those people who talk (unhelpfully) smart and rubbish are not the smart people after all! Thats a fact so just ignore them.
nm8 said:
I tell you those people who talk (unhelpfully) smart and rubbish are not the smart people after all! Thats a fact so just ignore them.
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I absolutely agree! Thanks!
nm8 SMART GUY
nm8;
SMART MAN!
What did you do smart for the forum or others?
orientale;
if you ask the question learn to listen. otherwise don't bother use search, if you know how to do it.
...clowns...
The only thing people speaking "rubbish" in this thread mean is: first use search.
It's common knowledge around forums to use search first and then ask questions. If not you get numerous threads asking the same question over and over again.
fdp24
There are lot of tests in net carried out by numerous softwares confirming the fact the gudgets based on OMAP are very slow...though there exist battery status...
cosinusx
You're right, 32 bits width in 3600 and 16bits in 3300
orientale
One important thing left unsaid is that 3600 supports mini SDHC cards on customized WM6 ROMs made by lvsw and mun.There are sdhc drivers for Trinity&WM6 OS. As to 3300, it is yet unclear if it gonna support sdhc format or no. Ciao.
Sjaool said:
Just copy and paste this "P3300 vs. P3600" in search and you will find the answer.
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This is for you, before writing rubbish, inform yourself!!!
As you can see the clue given by you didn't give so many results!
Fora does not need your rubbish-topics!!!
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orientale Today 03:58 AM
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Why I like the P3300:
I like the HTC Rollr, its much more effective than a normal navigation pad if you want to scroll through lists very fast. Of course you can change the rep. speed of your nav pad manually in the system settings but you would have to change back and forth if it is too fast or slow. Also the Rollr-Ball doesn't make any sound if you go into any direction, sometimes usefull for me not to make any clicking sounds. Disadvantage is that you can not press and hold into any direction, for example for playing certain games.
The screen is also very good, brighter than my old Ipaq rx3715 which is already pretty bright. Eight hardware buttons on the front are excellent for handling the device. Only the GSM sound sucks sometimes, I hear mainly low frequencies but this applies only to half of my phone calls, I think mobile to mobile, but don't rely on that info.
The only thing that really sucks is that the Micro-SD card is under the battery and even under the SIM card. The CPU power is low but not too low for me, I'm not playing too much any more. The P3300 is a business phone and not a gaming device, I think they designed it for that purpose and did a pretty good job.
What I like about the P3600:
It has Mini-SD instead which is available at 4 GB much cheaper than Micro-SD and the car-jacket is outside and not under the battery. So I could swap my cards if I had this.
Only other thing I would want is the 400 Mhz processor, I don't care for UMTS at all.
What sucks about both devices:
No standard headset plug.
I bought the P3300 only because I knew that Win Mobile 6 was going to be released for it. If I knew that the P3600 would have it too I'd probably have taken the P3600. Now I only regret having the P3600 because I can't swap my memory card quickly, besides that there is nothing bad about it.
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After a deep thinking and consideration I thought I need to benchmark the market -or in this case the Forum. I have been having Jasjar (Universal) for quite sometime now and was not so sure whether I keep it or not.
Every span of couple of months new device is launched with this feature or that benefit. Many that have proved functionality and other proved to be a total disgrace to the ppc industry
And since I am a member in this forum for almost over a year now, I wanted to ask all -at least who will visit this thread- how many of those are using Universal and those who are using other devices ranked in this Forum? If any would -thankfully- be coming up with serious statistics of the wide use of Universal vs. other devices and brands this would definitely indicate the global domination of such device and the versatility not to mention that with the latest ROMs this device became more and more dearer to me as much it is to others -I reckon so!
I am sure this would help all those programmers to focus more on developing roms and apps compatible with Universal than others. I would ask anyone who reads this post to contribute in voting and comments would surely be appreciated.
Cyber-mate said:
After a deep thinking and consideration I thought I need to benchmark the market -or in this case the Forum. I have been having Jasjar (Universal) for quite sometime now and was not so sure whether I keep it or not.
Every span of couple of months new device is launched with this feature or that benefit. Many that have proved functionality and other proved to be a total disgrace to the ppc industry
And since I am a member in this forum for almost over a year now, I wanted to ask all -at least who will visit this thread- how many of those are using Universal and those who are using other devices ranked in this Forum? If any would -thankfully- be coming up with serious statistics of the wide use of Universal vs. other devices and brands this would definitely indicate the global domination of such device and the versatility not to mention that with the latest ROMs this device became more and more dearer to me as much it is to others -I reckon so!
I am sure this would help all those programmers to focus more on developing roms and apps compatible with Universal than others. I would ask anyone who reads this post to contribute in voting and comments would surely be appreciated.
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Why not start a poll?
Universal
Hi Cyber-mate
To let you know; I do love my Universal and I'm using it 24 hours a day!
So I think I'm the first who answers your question
'Yeah... Lets start a poll'.
Cheers, Leo
Hi Cyber-mate
Have to say, I have persevered with the Universal, and that since the genius rom builders on here have cooked up some of their magic I am at last a happy Uni owner. I bought mine in Sep/Oct of 2005 and I can honestly say now I find mine usefull. I'm not a heavy user, but it is my main squeez (so to speak).
Regards
Mavrik
The reason there are so many devices, is because the market can support them as different people like different things.
There is no such thing as the best device, or the perfect device, it's what you think suits your needs the closest.
Currently, the Universal is the highest specification device, but soon the Athena will be out, but this is much larger, and not designed as a mobile pda phone, and also the Omni, which is the replacement for the Universal.
Really though, if you like your Universal, then great, if you don't, then listening to other people's views on what is good or bad will only confuse you.
We like the Universal, but there are many more that hate it.
I love my unversal too, and I think I keep it until I can get an Apple iPhone.
Or maybe I never change it to another device, because it has all thing in one, except GPS. But I can live without it, still we have BT GPS on the market.
Confused!!!...
Not sure what you want!!!...
Benchmark PDA? Yes I like my Universal!!!...
Benchmark Forum? Yes this is a good forum!!!... Of course, somethings are not allowed here but can be found somewhere!!!...
Benchmark self cooked ROM? This is definitely the best before WM6 starts to be banned!!!... If this banned forever, well one good thing less!!!...
HyperMalac said:
I love my unversal too, and I think I keep it until I can get an Apple iPhone.
Or maybe I never change it to another device, because it has all thing in one, except GPS. But I can live without it, still we have BT GPS on the market.
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Why iPhone?
CWKJ said:
Confused!!!...
Not sure what you want!!!...
Benchmark PDA? Yes I like my Universal!!!...
Benchmark Forum? Yes this is a good forum!!!... Of course, somethings are not allowed here but can be found somewhere!!!...
Benchmark self cooked ROM? This is definitely the best before WM6 starts to be banned!!!... If this banned forever, well one good thing less!!!...
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You see CWKJ, there are 100s of opinions from 100s of poeple. However, being a person among a large comunity that consider Universal as a gr8 device that has got the all-in-one! I mean, just check any of those posts with a ROM related topic, you'd see more than 100k entries and with no doubt this indicate that it is widely used and YET proven to be a
top-of-the-list device.
I am sure many more would agree with me and to tell you the truth, Apple IPhone is a pansy one.
We are talking FUNCTIONALITY here and not looks and colors! A device that can connect wirelessly, bluetooth, camera, keyboard and many others proves to be a true Pocket PC.
And hey, one more thing, when we talk about a Pocket PC, we aint talking mobile phone, I mean apple to apple
Hi,
about the Universal, I have to say it's a wonderful device which can be very useful and helpful. Thanks to its VGA display you can browse Internet really well not like those other devices with smaller resolutions.
The "laptop alike" makes it again very useful to write anything, even long texts.
I think about it more like a little laptop replacement (...ok the OS is not really a good OS replacement but I guess this would change with Linux...). It's another way of PPC, since I got my Hermes (about two weeks ago) I see how it's different, I use the Hermes with just one finger (almost everything) while I don't use the keyboard too much....on the other hand with my Uni I almost did everything with the keyboard.
So now with these two devices I have to say I use the Hermes as an "stable" PPC and the universal to try every new ROM is created, I'm trying to learn how to cook them, etc so now I think I'm enjoying the Uni even more!
Hi all
i'm an engineer doing R&D for Leaf Wireless in South Africa. We supply wireless solutions and HTC phones to Africa.
i'm going to Taiwan to meet and recieve training from the HTC engineers from monday the 12th. And since i've received so much help from XDA developers in the past i thought i'd offer.
if there are any customisation questions you have or HTC issues that are proving difficult to solve post them here. i'll ask the guys when i get there and try get some answers.
cheers,
Greg
hmm this thread sounds like it could take off.
i dont think you know what you got yourself into supaspud. i know lots of people are going to have questions and suggestions for htc.
i for one would like to see them implement a wheel mouse not unlike the one in the danger sidekick 3. that would make wm experience 100 times better.
also ask if crossbow will officially be released as an upgrade for the wizard.
when i think of more questions or suggestions ill reply again
?Why don't they make a full size (3.5" or whatever) screen in a cdma with more memory. Hell it doesn't even have to be vga. I use mine as a pda, if I wanted a tiny screen, I'd just get a damn phone.
hiimcliff said:
also ask if crossbow will officially be released as an upgrade for the wizard.
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Save yourself the bother. It would be up to the telco's to decide on releasing an official update and they would then pay HTC to build the rom. Expect that to happen about the same time as the telco's decide to donate all their profits to third world charities.
It's not a telco thing. If you are refering to the companies who re-brand the HTC machines (most of whom are not telcos) the decision will be based mostly on whether HTC will actually supply the ROM and at what cost if any. They would have a fairly good idea about what they are going to do for some machines as they own one such company that retails their machines (Dopod). Find out about possibility of Artemis crossbow ROM if you can
Linux
It would be interesting to get their opinion on Linux on the HTC platform, and whether they would consider contributing to the development of a well rounded Linux based phone environment.
Yes, their opinion on linux would be good to know
Ask if they have any future plans to support it officially.
Ask them what (apart from soldering the chips on and editing the rom file for memory alocation) needs to be done to make 128mb of ram work on UNIVERSAL (it origionally had it, so the motherboard supports it and it can work
Hello Leaf Wireless
Well, well Greg, I thought that Leaf would not come out of the closet.
I have been the source of information till now, but now please take the stage.
A few months back I introduced a few of your staff to the XDA site.
I am now and then fed tit bits of information which I share on the forum. The ROM 1.35 update is a good example.
There are some clever guys here and we can all all learn together.
The problems I raised with Renier was:
1. Storage card getting lost in Media Player
2. Windows 5 is full of unresloved problems, with the BT stack poor.
3. Battery life on 3G is shocking. I have upgraded to 1.27 to see if things improve.
4. I have an Email from Dan Mackie @HTC Eupope stating that an Major ROM upgrade would be released at the end of January 2007, "to resolve all known issues on the TyTN". Nothing has happened yet!
The issue with the storage card was a known issue and I was informed at the end of September that it would be sorted with the next upgrade.
It hasn't happened yet but I have noticed that the TyTN's that you have received do not have this problem.
Please feel free to contact me should you wish.
Enjoy the trip and let me have a copy of the new ROM before you leave.
Regards
A wish list would be for the keyboard have some kind of a lock to prevent it opening when retrieving from the pouch. I find that I often drop call on closing the keyboard.
The magnets in the pouch are also troublesome and cause screen rotation and also dropped calls at times when rotating back.
GPS in the Hermes
What component of software (hardware??) is missing in the Tytn compared to the Trinity to make the GPS work.
Thanks
Francisco
PS. My first post, and I would like to thanks all the excellent XDA-developers community for this great forum.
@SupaSpud: Tell them to produce a Hermes with VGA screen and GPS and 256Mb ROM, RAM....
Thanks.
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i'll ask the guys when i get there and try get some answers.
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Several people have already asked this question:
- How can we install 128Mb RAM on Universal?
HTC never replied.
sheesh...
wow... looks like I opened up pandora's box. i'm making a list of all the queries and i'll ask them on monday. keep em coming...
ps: i'll find out bout the rom now.
Hey SSpud - gr8 offer !
1. I''d like you to ask why they dont set the default Bluetooth (a2dp) to Stereo (and the bit rate / max bit rate to 40+) ... and generally fix stereo BT.
2. How do they acvtually work with customers (eg BT in the UK) .... I get the inpression they are extremely slow and unresponsive.
2. Camera - if even cheap sony ericons can have autofocus and macro settings why cant HTC ?
3. Stereo Jacks (3.5 or 2.5mm)
4. Direct access to microSD card
5. When will they update their FAQ's and trouble shooting guides beyond the patronising " check that it is turned on type " answers.
Thanks for this oportunity !!
(I'm especially intersted efor Artemis/ XDA orbit)
Hello 'Spud,
Apart from sorting/mentioning the listed problems here - especially the poor bluetooth stack IMO - please do bump the question regarding their future GPS roadmap for TyTN/Hermes series of phones.
Now that will make a true convergence of technologies.
Kind regards,
Mine is a small and trivial request... could they please please please fix the battery meter on the hermes... the [email protected] +/- 10% drives me nuts... wish we could get the +/- 1% like the other devices.
Hello Greg
SupaSpud said:
Hi all
i'm an engineer doing R&D for Leaf Wireless in South Africa. We supply wireless solutions and HTC phones to Africa.
i'm going to Taiwan to meet and recieve training from the HTC engineers from monday the 12th. And since i've received so much help from XDA developers in the past i thought i'd offer.
if there are any customisation questions you have or HTC issues that are proving difficult to solve post them here. i'll ask the guys when i get there and try get some answers.
cheers,
Greg
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Tell the guys at HTC to watch the XDA-Developers site to find out what's wrong with their phones and what features are needed to turn them into great devices - remember the IPhone is comming!
Basil
Tell them not to save cents in devices that cost hundred of dollars. For instance they use cheap and weak cpus like samsung (which has only ARMv4T) ot OMAP with it's low clock frequencies. Or they save memory and instead of using 128MB or more RAM! RAM is cheap! I'd like to see smaller touchscreen displays with VGA resolution! Look at the size and resolution of some nokias: E60 or E70. I'd like to see hermes (device with foldable keyboard) with gps, 624MHz intel cpu, 128MB RAM and 2.2 inch touchscreen in the near future!
YES! Tell them about this forum! Tell them not to do stupid things in locking their devices - this simply reduces their markets!
And tell them that maybe it is about time to see their x86 UMPC! Look at the sony vaio UX180P or UX280P!
Hi
hiimcliff said:
i for one would like to see them implement a wheel mouse not unlike the one in the danger sidekick 3. that would make wm experience 100 times better.
also ask if crossbow will officially be released as an upgrade for the wizard.
when i think of more questions or suggestions ill reply again
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I'm not exactly sure of what you mean about the wheel mouse. You mean like the one the Artemis has?
As for crossbow going onto the Wizard... i don't think that'll happen. But i'll double check.
Hi
cougargt said:
?Why don't they make a full size (3.5" or whatever) screen in a cdma with more memory. Hell it doesn't even have to be vga. I use mine as a pda, if I wanted a tiny screen, I'd just get a damn phone.
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I can't say too much, but if the rumour I heard is true, you might get something like that in the second half of this year. *wink-wink, nudge-nudge*
I purchased a TyTN (T-Mobile Vario II) around six months ago and I was pretty pleased with it. It wasn't perfect (for example, I couldn't re-connect to the Internet without a soft reset) but it was pretty good.
After a lot of hesitation, I upgraded the radio (1.41) and OS (Black 2.5) about a month ago. A couple of days ago I upgraded the OS to Black Shadow. Tonight I added the SMS "fix".
I now believe that I have the best communication device in the world. Seriously. It's wonderful. The functionality is outstanding. I can do almost anything I could possibly want to do with a phone/PDA. E-mail, texting, surfing, phoning, Skyping, gaming, voice recording, reading (Word, PDF), presenting (PowerPoint), photography etc. Did I mention Internet sharing? I can now connect my laptop to the 'Net from almost anywhere in the world.
The only drawbacks that I can see are that it looks a bit like a brick (only because it has a full QWERTY keyboard - which I love), the battery only lasts one day at a time, and it can be a little sluggish at times.
Nothing else comes close and whenever I look for something better I always come away seriously disappointed - and that will include the iPhone when it comes out. We're probably using iPhone v2 (3G, programmable, video calling, Internet sharing, Office compatible, etc.) right now.
whats the point of this thread?
Seems that he wants to praise the device...would be better suited in the general forum?
Sounds like he wants a cookie....
CUSTEL said:
Sounds like he wants a cookie....
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I could not not help it, LMAO
Dont see anything wrong with praising a device
Can you actually blow a phone? Whups, n00b question, when I used the search feature it gave me this thread again. lol
Jin187 said:
Dont see anything wrong with praising a device
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ditto
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Nothing wrong if some one wants to praise their phone .
Here here!
Enough people ***** about their phones in these forums. I for one am glad to hear a success story once in a while.
I think it's a great phone, perhaps the best of the last generation, but there are new toys coming out that show incremental improvements in the technology.
But it's the programmers and hackers that really make Windows Mobile devices fly!
And, re "The best communication device in the world?", surely this is the wife's evil glare? Never fails to get the message over to me, tout suite
V
bobbyelliott said:
I now believe that I have the best communication device in the world.
Nothing else comes close and whenever I look for something better I always come away seriously disappointed - and that will include the iPhone when it comes out. We're probably using iPhone v2 (3G, programmable, video calling, Internet sharing, Office compatible, etc.) right now.
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Have you tried the Trinity?
"The best communication device in the world?"
Although my X01HT is not the best performance device in the world, I think it's the ringt device for me.
I dont have a perfect phone or PDA. Nor do I want one.
Else I will never get to replace a new one every few months!
Yes, it's a great phone!
...but we still need to file that original post under "NooB-gasm"!
Perhaps we could start a special "H-TaCy" thread for these posts.
Just kidding.
You know, in this day and age with so many Prematurely-released feature-rich gadgets, the marketing teams usually win the consumers over and poor tech support kills all the hope of the devices reaching their potential. I've been had by ASUS a few times on PDAs/phones.
It's really nice to have a great group of people like we find here (who are putting in all the grunt work) who can help us GET OUR MONEY'S WORTH (SO RARE THESE DAYS!!), especially on the language-change issues!
_My_ thanks goes out to HTC for making good products and to the FOLKS HERE for making it great! It's quite possible he sort of meant the same thing. When the vibrator stops working, he may one day realize this.
-J Cat
Lol... be nice guys.
I have to say I was quietly smiling to myself when I heard about the Iphone's 3rd party development support - through Safari widgets. Yippee
I've said it before and I'll say it again - the Windows Mobile phones are great because people like the endless genii on this board make them great and customise the hell out of them.
HTC makes nice hardware, and the two together work well. Many OEMs make nice hardware now, look at the Japanese only devices for true innovation. But, Hermes is a nice, stable device. Shame about the GPS, it would have been near perfect (for its generation).
V
Perfect without GPS
Perfect? Well.... Well if it was faster, had 128 MB of storage. Had room for SD and MicroSD (4GB please) and if it had GPS, maybe it would be approaching perfect.
Now Heather Graham is perfect! http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001287/
May I have a cookie too?
Mark
Perfect without GPS
Sorry if that is a N00b post.
The TyTN is a fantastic communications device, I keep my interior life on it and it entertains me when I'm bored!
misfitflt said:
Perfect? Well.... Well if it was faster, had 128 MB of storage. Had room for SD and MicroSD (4GB please) and if it had GPS, maybe it would be approaching perfect.
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I agree with some of this... ample RAM and an 800Mhz CPU would suit me. Add GPS and a 5MP camera and it would be my perfect device.
Ohh yeah and a mini projector built into the top of the phone so I could aim it at a wall and project my films so I had a larger view!
I would like the top projector on the device to project on air rather than the wall as well as would like TyTn to perform as a new "surface" where u can just put any bar coded device on its screen and have all the contents sorted out...plus I would also like it to work as a fax and also GPS and so the list goes on and on...
In reality, I use it only for the voice calling and nothing else... and for that my nokia 3100 was perfect with 7 days plus battery life....
Sorry for the rant...
Now that the acer is out, in pocketnow are trying to compare it to the TP2...
U people are serious? Acer M900, the same device that has 128MB RAM and 256MB ROM? Lol, people were screaming the TP2 doesn't have enough memory and so... Did u check the pocketnow software tour? This device works like a 1 year old phone... The acer shell is kind of a BAD copy of TF3d, a poor imitation or something... The display isn't nearly as sensitive as the TP2's is.. The device feels cheep. I can calmly say it's about a million years away from TP2... I'm not saying the TP2 is the device of the future (since I was having bigger expectations from the hardware upgrade part), but it's the best WM device there is up to now... And I believe that comparing it to the Acer M900 is... nonsense... And my big surprise came from the price - just 80 bucks in favor of the M900? Why spare that money when all u get is a BIG compromise?
Sorry guys, had to say my opinion... I was feeling pretty frustrated by the device and the comparison with the TP2...
P.S. Wasn't the M900 suppose to be the acer's phone with a Snapdragon? Or was it some other Acer's phone?
Acer smartphone is nice & their price also reasonable. i've tried acer dx9650 (two-faced). the hardware is nice. gps is SiRFstar III® & i can feel the samsung processor is faster (remember hermes?) | graphic also good. The problem is they still new & doesnt hv better user friendly features yet. So we can skip M900 at this moment and proceed with TP2. Snapdragon based is a must for next device
I'd love to have the biosensor/dpad/mouse on the TP2. It's a neat trick.
I'm hopeful that the zoom bar can be easily retasked for navigation.
Now that the acer is out, in pocketnow are trying to compare it to the TP2...
U people are serious?
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It's a compliment. TP2 is the new measuring stick. At least for now.
I'd love to have "Trackball with Enter button" (small & very useful) at center, below zoombar & at least 2 flat hardware button at earpiece side. it will be a perfect machine for gaming
I just bought it because the TP2 isn't coming out until november in the states and I want something to play with, that has a huge screen, that isn't the iPhone until then. Other users have said that you don't run into memory problems when you disable Acer's desktop UI and install your apps to your microsd card. What also drew me to the phone was the flash, the front facing camera, and the 5 MP back camera...features that HTC easily could have included (in the u.s. version) but won't. Anyways, I'm going to see how much I enjoy the phone. The next phone I want should have a tegra or snapdragon processor anyway, and we know that won't come out until late next year in the U.S.
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Now that the acer is out, in pocketnow are trying to compare it to the TP2...
U people are serious? Acer M900, the same device that has 128MB RAM and 256MB ROM? Lol, people were screaming the TP2 doesn't have enough memory and so... Did u check the pocketnow software tour? This device works like a 1 year old phone... The acer shell is kind of a BAD copy of TF3d, a poor imitation or something... The display isn't nearly as sensitive as the TP2's is.. The device feels cheep. I can calmly say it's about a million years away from TP2... I'm not saying the TP2 is the device of the future (since I was having bigger expectations from the hardware upgrade part), but it's the best WM device there is up to now... And I believe that comparing it to the Acer M900 is... nonsense... And my big surprise came from the price - just 80 bucks in favor of the M900? Why spare that money when all u get is a BIG compromise?
Sorry guys, had to say my opinion... I was feeling pretty frustrated by the device and the comparison with the TP2...
P.S. Wasn't the M900 suppose to be the acer's phone with a Snapdragon? Or was it some other Acer's phone?
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I don't understand why people always talk about software when deciding between phones. That's the good thing about WM, you can rip UI's off just about any of them. Besides, TF3D is way overrated anyway.
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I don't understand why people always talk about software when deciding between phones. That's the good thing about WM, you can rip UI's off just about any of them. Besides, TF3D is way overrated anyway.
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Disagree, even Manila 2D is already really good and convenient
Anyway same for me, just ordered a TP2 to be able to wait with no stress for the tegra phones (I have an Hermes right now)
Hey, during pocketnow software review, they said have 20mb free with the acer interface on the M900 it's less than on my Kaiser with WM6.5 and M2D...
I used M2D on my Kaiser since 2 weeks, I can understand that HTC removed DPAD on TP2 with TF3D, now, I use rarely the stylus and DPAD...
Waiting french TP2...
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Hey, during pocketnow software review, they said have 20mb free with the acer interface on the M900 it's less than on my Kaiser with WM6.5 and M2D...
I used M2D on my Kaiser since 2 weeks, I can understand that HTC removed DPAD on TP2 with TF3D, now, I use rarely the stylus and DPAD...
Waiting french TP2...
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The first person who understands what I meant... I just don't get it, why bother making a shell that takes about 85% of the RAM and in order for the device to function properly, u have to turn that and that and that off and then the phone MIGHT work faster... Well, if I wanted to buy a phone and use it's basic WM functions and design, why shouldn't I buy a TyTNII, for example, which would work even faster that the acer? If the screen is the problem, then buy a PSP and u'll have even bigger screen...
Here is the deal for us North American users. The TP2 does not come with a 3G compatible band and if you use internet or email with a PDA data plan on regular GPS signals you might as well use dial up again. I would have jumped on the Samsung Omnia, HTC Touch HD or now even on the TP2 (doctajay are you sure it will be 3G compatible, because all the specs I have seen so far indicate otherwise) if it wasn't for the fact that our providers use the 850Mhz band and none of the listed devices operate on this band.
I purchaed an Eten M800 a year ago and was very disappointed in just about any detail of the phone. It felt cheap, the rear cover paint came of within the first couple of hours of use, the software was buggy and on top of it all it only came with 64Mb ram. I was not even able to install TomTom 7 and had to revert back to an older version. The GPS on the other hand was top notch, with quick fixes and dead on accurate. My current HTC Fuze is laggy and it can take 8min+ to get a fix.
Well, my M900 should be here by Wednesday and I would not mind sharing my opinion about the device. For now I will hold on to my Fuze just as I did with my Kaiser when I got the M800, because after two days of use on the M800 I was more than happy to go back to my Kaiser.
Cheers.
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Now that the acer is out, in pocketnow are trying to compare it to the TP2...
U people are serious? Acer M900, the same device that has 128MB RAM and 256MB ROM? Lol, people were screaming the TP2 doesn't have enough memory and so... Did u check the pocketnow software tour? This device works like a 1 year old phone... The acer shell is kind of a BAD copy of TF3d, a poor imitation or something... The display isn't nearly as sensitive as the TP2's is.. The device feels cheep. I can calmly say it's about a million years away from TP2... I'm not saying the TP2 is the device of the future (since I was having bigger expectations from the hardware upgrade part), but it's the best WM device there is up to now... And I believe that comparing it to the Acer M900 is... nonsense... And my big surprise came from the price - just 80 bucks in favor of the M900? Why spare that money when all u get is a BIG compromise?
Sorry guys, had to say my opinion... I was feeling pretty frustrated by the device and the comparison with the TP2...
P.S. Wasn't the M900 suppose to be the acer's phone with a Snapdragon? Or was it some other Acer's phone?
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Well, you also need to take that quick review from PocketNow with a little grain of salt. The comparison was made on the fly and as the moderator was explaining that the menu's are not flickable he discovered they where. Also when he showed the software review he indicated that the flick settings are adjustable but he actually never adjusted them. So quoting a Youtube review of someoen that maybe only spend a couple of hours with the phone without confirming what settings may need to be adjusted, I think it would be best until the official review comes out.
Also when the same moderator did the un-packaging he was very pleased with the keyboard layout. Later in the second review he negativaly commented about the fact that the Fn key was needed to be pressed to get the Perid.
Again, as long as these reviews are based on first impressions only, I would not take them 100% serious.
On the unboxing video from pocketnow.com, the back of the box indicated that it supports HSPDA 850/1900/2100, so we are set in terms of 3G. To be honest the last eten phone I had was crap, but I'm willing to take a chance especially since the specs beat the TP2 in many aspects (i'm especially feeling the front facing camera and the 5 mp camera in the back and the LED flash). For us AT&T users, the TP2 doesn't come out until Nov., and I'm willing to give this phone a shot until then. Who knows, I may just keep it until a Tegra or Snapdragon phone comes to the US.But overall, i think that once we figure out how to completely strip the ROM and install WM 6.5 (which I'm working on), then the phone will be alot more zippy.
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The first person who understands what I meant... I just don't get it, why bother making a shell that takes about 85% of the RAM and in order for the device to function properly, u have to turn that and that and that off and then the phone MIGHT work faster... Well, if I wanted to buy a phone and use it's basic WM functions and design, why shouldn't I buy a TyTNII, for example, which would work even faster that the acer? If the screen is the problem, then buy a PSP and u'll have even bigger screen...
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Don't know about you but I had the TytnII and now the Acer M900, and you have no idea what you're saying if you think the TytnII is faster. Plus the screen is so damn 2005. No way I'd go back to a 2.8" screen. And the PSP doesn't do WM. What in god's name are you talking about?
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On the unboxing video from pocketnow.com, the back of the box indicated that it supports HSPDA 850/1900/2100, so we are set in terms of 3G. To be honest the last eten phone I had was crap, but I'm willing to take a chance especially since the specs beat the TP2 in many aspects (i'm especially feeling the front facing camera and the 5 mp camera in the back and the LED flash). For us AT&T users, the TP2 doesn't come out until Nov., and I'm willing to give this phone a shot until then. Who knows, I may just keep it until a Tegra or Snapdragon phone comes to the US.But overall, i think that once we figure out how to completely strip the ROM and install WM 6.5 (which I'm working on), then the phone will be alot more zippy.
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I specifically asked the US retailer before I ordered the phone that it supports the ATT 850 band. Most likely I will do the same as you and try this phone out until something more solid hits the US. Anyhow, you indicated that you would work on a Rom. My programming skills are rather primitive, but I would be willing to help out if I can.
Is it for example possible to disassemble the latest rom that Acer posts on their website to figure out how to start cooking new roms or as you mentioned to upgrade to 6.5?
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I specifically asked the US retailer before I ordered the phone that it supports the ATT 850 band. Most likely I will do the same as you and try this phone out until something more solid hits the US. Anyhow, you indicated that you would work on a Rom. My programming skills are rather primitive, but I would be willing to help out if I can.
Is it for example possible to disassemble the latest rom that Acer posts on their website to figure out how to start cooking new roms or as you mentioned to upgrade to 6.5?
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I love it when a plan comes together!
Anosis is asking the RIGHT questions.
Been dying to see how 6.5 operates on the M900.
I am hoping that one of the big PDA forum supporters will start to create a specific M900 section. The following post is from the actual ETEN support forum from EU. This particular post gives the first clues on how to cook roms for the ETEN/Acer. Hope this will inspire some of the more advanced users to cook up roms for the M900.....
POST COPIED FORM ETEN USER FORUM...
Here is a short tutorial on editing some parts of a ROM to make your own customised one.
Some ROM parts are dealt with here, some are left for another post.
To understand why I do what I do to ROM's, I can state that I regard PDA devices as a computer (small) with a phone segment attached. I know most people refer to them as "phones", but if that was what I wanted I would just buy a Nokia or something at 1/5th the price. PDA's are computers with phone, BT/GPS/wifi segments attached and bundled more or less neatly together. That, together with the flexibility of WinMobile, is what makes these devices useful.
I always want a ROM that's smaller, faster, cleaner, leaner. Stuff like SpB Shell, TouchFlo etc are really add-ons. These programs have constant upgrades and if they are in ROM, they cannot be upgraded without re-cooking the ROM with the upgrade in it - and that becomes repetitively tedious. Add-ons can also generally be installed on the SDHC card, as these cards are now 16Gb in size with a 32Gb variant to be retailed this year sometime (if we're lucky). My view is the more I can install on the card, the less clogged limited Storage becomes for those programs that must be installed in Storage. I also posted a CAB file a few days ago that significantly increases the speed with which card data/programs can be accessed. With this program (tnnyt SD TuneUP) installed, I can find no practical time difference between accessing Storage and card data.
I've just cooked another custom ROM for my use, based on the policy outlined above - smaller, faster, cleaner. On clean boot, Storage available is 188Mb/used is 22Mb; RAM available is 70Mb/used is 30Mb (ie. free Storage 166Mb, free RAM 40Mb).
THIS PROCESS IS ENTIRELY YOUR OWN RISK. I WILL NOT ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S INEPTNESS. IF THIS TUTORIAL ISN'T CLEAR TO YOU, READ FURTHER USING GOOGLE, XDA-DEV AND THE FORUM HERE. DO YOUR HOMEWORK
ETEN/ACER ROM's are made up of these basic parts (and most of these are directly comparable to the HTC ROM's):
1) entire flashable ROM file is called temp.dat (to flash off the card, it is re-named temp.bin)
2) basic parts are Fat and ExtendedROM inside the OS. We can examine these by extracting the bits and then sorting them
3) after sorting, we can edit the bits that matter and re-build the ROM for customised use. I suggest that no one who is inexperienced here should edit those bits I will note as untouchable and then attempt a flash ... in the immortal words of Cyril (a ROM cook from the Eten X500 forum): "YOUR DEVICE WON'T NEVER BOOT AGAIN"
Tools you need (this refers to WIN2k or XP with both NET and Java installed- I don't use Vista):
4) a full, clean copy of an official ACER/ETEN "temp.dat". You can achieve this easily by running the EUU_ACER_DX900 xxx.EXE without async and leaving the window open at the NEXT or CANCEL stage. With that window still open, search for "temp.dat" - it is likely in \Documents & Settings\Local Settings\Temp. Copy this file to a working folder, then you can CANCEL the open upgrade window (this will delete all the upgrade files from \Local Settings\Temp)
5) the DX900_Tools that Rugal supplied a few weeks ago on the forum here. Just unzip this to your working folder. Rugal listed the Java requirement
6) the files imgfstodump.exe, imgfsfromdump.exe and cecompr_nt.dll in the same folder. Also PKGTool.exe and pkgcommon.dll together in the same folder. You can Google for these files, they are readily available through xda-dev; try to find the most recent
7) open the DX900_Tools folder. You have folders src and Tools, with batch files "create" and "extract" plus etentool.jar (Java). Copy temp.dat into this folder, plus the files listed above in step 6)
8) open "extract.bat". A DOS window opens, a number of messages scroll across the screen and then the DOS window closes when the process is finished. The temp.dat ROM has been de-constructed into its' component bits as a 1st step
9) the DX900_Tools folder now has a Rom folder in it. In the Rom folder is an Os folder, a binary header file and five (5) DAT files. At this point, delete all the DAT files EXCEPT "os.dat". If you do not do this step, remember Cyril's warning in 3) above. Leave both the header file and os.dat in the Rom folder untouched
10) inside the Os folder are folders Extrom and Fat, plus four (4) assorted files. leave these 4 files untouched
11) open the Extrom folder (Extended ROM). The CAB files inside are those loaded at the end of a flash, when the limited choice of installable files is normally presented. You may delete some or all of these PREI_*.CAB files according to your choice - this will reduce the final ROM size considerably. You may also add CAB's of your choice, re-named PREI_xxx.CAB, but you need to know the XML additions to the Registry for each of these (a further tutorial on "CAB to Extrom or OEM")
BUT
all deletions and additions of such PREI_xxx.cab's must be edited in "filesinfo.txt" and the three (3) *.xml files (oem.xml, oem_post.xml and optionalap.xml). The txt file is just a standard text edit, but xml file edits should be done in an XML editor to keep the formatting exact. Cooktop is an adequate XML freeware editor. If you are unsure of how to edit XML, you should take some time to learn this process. Leave the other files in Extrom untouched
12) open the Fat folder and delete "minios.bin". Leave the other four (4) binary files UNTOUCHED, but you should note the sizes of imgfs.bin and xip.bin. The 1st of these is the compressed filesystem image and may be manipulated in a later process. The 2nd file, xip.bin, is a compressed binary of the eXecuteInPlace (XIP) system - this is the core of WinMobile and is reportedly device-independent, ie. this is Microsoft's work and should be transferable to any WM device with appropriate editing of interfaces. The current version number in ROM 0553 for the XIP is 20772.1.4.7 (WM6.1). Files fatheader.bin and fatimg.bin are boot-type files and must be left UNTOUCHED
13) at this stage, you have reached a fork in the road.
1st fork:
If satisfied that all the Extrom edits are OK and you want no further edits to the ROM, you can go back to the DX900_Tools folder and click "create.bat". A DOS windows opens, a number of messages scroll across the screen and then the window closes. You should then have a file "temp_new.dat" in the folder now. This is your new flashable ROM, copy it someplace safe
I suggest you then clear the DX900_Tools folder back to its' initial state and proceed to re-extract your new "temp.dat" - TO CHECK THAT IT EXTRACTS OK. If it is so, flash it as either re-named temp.dat (use async) or temp.bin (use the card)
14) 2nd fork:
after editing the Extrom and thoroughly checking these edits, you may wish to progress and remove some of the extraneous stuff in the \SYS folder (you haven't created this yet). For example, Office 6.1, NetCF2.0, Sample Music and so on. Doing these deletions will shrink your new ROM (faster, cleaner, leaner etc) and you can install some of these programs on the card later, anyway. For example, NETCF3.5 will install on the card and is an upgrade to NETCF2.0
So, how to ?
This will be the 2nd tutorial, posted sometime soon.
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Thanks for the post anonsis. Right now, the only dedicated forum for the Acer m900 is at 4winmobile: http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/e-ten-acer-support/
I've already dumped the newest ROM that Acer has on their website via the instructions that are listed above. I'm still a novice but the process was pretty simple. At the 4winmobile site, you can see where I extracted all the cabs that come with the ROM and posted them for people to download. Also, on the 4winmobile site another user has already dumped the ROM, stripped it of that stupid Acer Shell and rebuilt it, making it much more lite; you can find his post here: http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/e-...ted-cabs-latest-acer-m900-rom.html#post226423
Also, I've been talking with serious cookers for other Eten phones on the eten-users forum, and they have laid out step by step how we can make a WM 6.5 kitchen for the Acer m900. You can see those instructions here: http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=16366&view=findpost&p=117624
So getting WM 6.5 on our Acer m900 may not be as hard as it seems. I'm no where close to even being a serious cooker, but I'm still going to try to follow the directions above. Honestly, this can be an amazing phone if we just put some work into it, and I really hope that some serious cookers come our way.
But yeah, for now, 4winmobile is the only site that has given us any type of sub-forum.
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Thanks for the post anonsis. Right now, the only dedicated forum for the Acer m900 is at 4winmobile: http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/e-ten-acer-support/
I've already dumped the newest ROM that Acer has on their website via the instructions that are listed above. I'm still a novice but the process was pretty simple. At the 4winmobile site, you can see where I extracted all the cabs that come with the ROM and posted them for people to download. Also, on the 4winmobile site another user has already dumped the ROM, stripped it of that stupid Acer Shell and rebuilt it, making it much more lite; you can find his post here: http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/e-...ted-cabs-latest-acer-m900-rom.html#post226423
Also, I've been talking with serious cookers for other Eten phones on the eten-users forum, and they have laid out step by step how we can make a WM 6.5 kitchen for the Acer m900. You can see those instructions here: http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=16366&view=findpost&p=117624
So getting WM 6.5 on our Acer m900 may not be as hard as it seems. I'm no where close to even being a serious cooker, but I'm still going to try to follow the directions above. Honestly, this can be an amazing phone if we just put some work into it, and I really hope that some serious cookers come our way.
But yeah, for now, 4winmobile is the only site that has given us any type of sub-forum.
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Thanks man!!
I have followed the same steps and now have the extROM folder with all the caps. Since I have an old M800 laying around and my M900 is still in the mail, I started checking some of the cabs out. Rather mess around with the M800 then my current Fuze .
Next I would like to try to thin the rom down just like the post you mentioned, so I can get a feal of what it takes to do all this.
BTW, could you comment on the reception of the phone and also the brightness of the screen. I know that is all subjective to the viewer, but comparing it to the Fuze would help since we both have one.
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The first person who understands what I meant...
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Actually it was just the first person who you understood what they meant
The nice thing about worldwide forums is you get to discover that your mobile needs are not the exact same as everyone else's mobile needs. That particular life lesson can extend into other areas if you let it.
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Thanks man!!
I have followed the same steps and now have the extROM folder with all the caps. Since I have an old M800 laying around and my M900 is still in the mail, I started checking some of the cabs out. Rather mess around with the M800 then my current Fuze .
Next I would like to try to thin the rom down just like the post you mentioned, so I can get a feal of what it takes to do all this.
BTW, could you comment on the reception of the phone and also the brightness of the screen. I know that is all subjective to the viewer, but comparing it to the Fuze would help since we both have one.
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My m900 should be arriving on Tuesday or Wednesday so I am waiting just like you. We started a WM 6.5 thread at 4winmobile so anyone who wants to try and help us port it is welcome.
i have been around xda for awhile now (owning the Tilt 2) and found that many people have lost hope in the Android project. Some say that the internal hardware is just to "old" to play decent games on the android marketplace. But when i look at the tech specs for the Rhodium and see a 528 mhz processor with 512 mb of ram, i question myself. Obviously not as impressive as other phones now a days, but lets take the Ipod touch 2nd generation for instance. The hardware inside both devices seem to replicate one another (i mean acccording the tech specs the ipod touch is clocked at 533 mhz but isnt the Blazn android clocked at 700 mhz or plus!) maybe its a graphic card issue (correct me if im wrong), but i dont find this hardware that "old." I personally own a Ipod touch 2g and it runs games beautifully, but then again, it could be the os. Tell me if my thinking is totally off, or is there hope in the Rhodium android dev.
Also, it seems like the HTC leo (HD2) android dev went up quick and works 99% perfect (or should a say evo status without the front facing camera?). The possibilty for the Rhodium is greater than what people actually think.
I tend to agree. If you look at the specs on the device, you cant replace all the features it has with anything on the market yet, till the TP3 is out. Its a Saphire on steriods. I wont give this phone up till it breaks. My only wish was a front camera. If we get the camera going, what cant you do with it that a saphire will do
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i have been around xda for awhile now (owning the Tilt 2) and found that many people have lost hope in the Android project. Some say that the internal hardware is just to "old" to play decent games on the android marketplace. But when i look at the tech specs for the Rhodium and see a 528 mhz processor with 512 mb of ram, i question myself. Obviously not as impressive as other phones now a days, but lets take the Ipod touch 2nd generation for instance. The hardware inside both devices seem to replicate one another (i mean acccording the tech specs the ipod touch is clocked at 533 mhz but isnt the Blazn android clocked at 700 mhz or plus!) maybe its a graphic card issue (correct me if im wrong), but i dont find this hardware that "old." I personally own a Ipod touch 2g and it runs games beautifully, but then again, it could be the os. Tell me if my thinking is totally off, or is there hope in the Rhodium android dev.
Also, it seems like the HTC leo (HD2) android dev went up quick and works 99% perfect (or should a say evo status without the front facing camera?). The possibilty for the Rhodium is greater than what people actually think.
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First, the RHOD has 288mb of RAM.... Second, the specs on the HD2 are ridiculously better - similar to most Android phones, hence the porting job for them was a breeze. Plus, they had a dev that was really, really good at disassembling WinMo dll's, so that made the porting job easier for them as well.
We might be able to get it up to a level of the Vogue... but your iPod Touch is a very, very different device from your RHOD. Lot less for your iPod to worry about then your RHOD...
Devs are makin great progress tho, I feel confident we can get it to a level where it would be comparable to a native Android device with similar specs - like the G1.
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Plus, they had a dev that was really, really good at disassembling WinMo dll's, so that made the porting job easier for them as well.
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Maybe some donation (if there is more than >400 euros for overclock tool, we could get more for fully working android) for him would make necessery progress?
I would donate 15 euro, if there are more ppl, we could ask if he is interested.
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Maybe some donation (if there is more than >400 euros for overclock tool, we could get more for fully working android) for him would make necessery progress?
I would donate 15 euro, if there are more ppl, we could ask if he is interested.
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The legendary dev I speak of has helped us immensely already... he doesn't want money.
It's just he doesn't have the device himself, and it's not worth his time working on the RHOD... Already tried to get him a device, he wouldn't have it
Either way, he's a very helpful individual - we just have to go to him with very specific questions/problems, which is being addressed. We're getting there, progress is flying lately.
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The legendary dev I speak of has helped us immensely already... he doesn't want money.
It's just he doesn't have the device himself, and it's not worth his time working on the RHOD... Already tried to get him a device, he wouldn't have it
Either way, he's a very helpful individual - we just have to go to him with very specific questions/problems, which is being addressed. We're getting there, progress is flying lately.
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ahh yes.. the infamous dev has helped us many times. BUT if you read the logs far back enough we did help them plenty of times as well. I guess it was exciting for me specially since having gone through it with the tp2 it was nice to lend a helping hand when the project was in it's infancy stages. The HD2 apparently is far easier to program according to those devs.. they look at the tp2 and wonder why htc made such a beast. It really is a weird device compared to the others we see.
We also went through a rough time losing some key devs this year. Thats never easy for such a small team that has never even met.
still .. we are getting close cheers
It has come a long way in the last 2 months, you guys are doing great! Keep up the good work
Other techies have taken double takes a few times when im playing angry birds on a wimo phone.. Its always entertaining.....
Tech: "Who's playing that darn game"
Me: "Dont look at me, im a wimo guy"