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I saw an official release of WM6 today..

Ok.. so I work for a T-Mobile exclusive dealer here in the US.. the HTC representatives stopped by my store today to ask a few questions about how the dash and the MDA were selling at my store.. after talking and chatting for a while, one of the reps pulls out what they call the "T-mobile Wing" which will be releasing late May.. its a really slim version of the MDA with a nice full rubber keypad.. and best of alll, Windows Mobile 6..
I pulled out my 8525(hermes) and compared the OS's.. Keep in mind, I'm running XDALive v0.20.. the official release is very different than the beta that kypher released. Instead of the task manager being in Settings>Memory.. it's located in the top right corner of the screen where the "X" usually is.. instead of the "X" being there, its an arrow with a drop down menu. from there, you can close one or all of the applications that are running.. it will be something like this:
Activsync [X]
Internet E. [X]
Windows L. [X]
and so on and so on.. pretty cool.
ALSO, there is a bluetooth icon and wifi icon on the today screen, to where you can turn either/or on and off. Which is convenient.
Icons and colors, etc are all the same.. but there are little quirks here and there that make the official release different..

g.baltazar said:
here the "X" usually is.. instead of the "X" being there, its an arrow with a drop down menu. from there, you can close one or all of the applications that are running.. it will be something like this:
Activsync [X]
Internet E. [X]
Windows L. [X]
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Isn't this just pBar (3rd party task manager) installed on it?
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ALSO, there is a bluetooth icon and wifi icon on the today screen, to where you can turn either/or on and off. Which is convenient.
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This is the HTCHomeplug today screen plugin.
Both thinks you can put on any existing WM6 (or WM5) rom.

thanks pof,
you know where to get these apps? i`ve been googling, but there is to much discussionstuff to find them...

pof said:
Isn't this just pBar (3rd party task manager) installed on it?
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Someone shew me that screenshot. Seems to be not pBar or else custom app.

mun_rus said:
Someone shew me that screenshot. Seems to be not pBar or else custom app.
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that looks similiar to the o2 plus stuff.. i have that, see screen shot

shogunmark said:
that looks similiar to the o2 plus stuff.. i have that, see screen shot
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Probably it's not operator application, htc?

Ahh I see now.. where can we get HTCHomeplug? and Pbar?

@mun_rus: That's the task manager from SBSH iLauncher, which I use myself. Real good one...

T-Mobile Wing Picture
Does anyone have a picture of what the new T-Mobile Wing looks like?

g.baltazar said:
Ahh I see now.. where can we get HTCHomeplug? and Pbar?
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I would also like to know where I could get these.

schrimes said:
Does anyone have a picture of what the new T-Mobile Wing looks like?
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See this link here

That task bar was in one of the roms that we had here (maybe AKU 3.3). except there wasnt the Icon in that area. I found it by accident. I will try to remember which one it was. You had to hold the stylus in the area where the X normally would be with an open application and it would pop-up.

weinson said:
See this link here
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HTC Universal?

weinson said:
See this link here
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I seriously doubt it.
THAT "wing" is the Universal, and the link you posted from the Reg is from early 2005.
If I had to guess, i'd say that the T-mobile USA "wing" is going to be the VOX.

ScottC said:
I seriously doubt it.
THAT "wing" is the Universal, and the link you posted from the Reg is from early 2005.
If I had to guess, i'd say that the T-mobile USA "wing" is going to be the VOX.
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Looks like I posted a bad link earlier...try this one on for size

First.
there may be a new Task Manager in the final Wm6, and a new on Todayscreen Comm manager. among other things. whether it will be HTC developed (likely) or 3rd party software(less likely)
"Neither one may be initial available upon the Herald release but in subsequent rom updates. or for purchase from the Marketplace/Handango." it is unclear. as i understand it MSFT is going to be pushing an integrated software ecosystem a la itunes for phone software cept integrated into the device.
I know that microsoft is really going to push this marketplace thing this year, thats one of the points I got out of the Windows mobile folks @ the vista launch event. we should see a much more organised system for getting software than what we have seen in the past. Im really excited.
Second.
He saw the Herald.
Third.
This thing is going live sometime during/after april
Fourth
Tmobile May not end up with the vox unless the price point gets lower. (I have not heard anything about this device in awhile, it could still be coming) - it doesnt really make sense though since the price point on the dash is so low and the specs r almost the same.
fifth
the HTC wing is a 3g Phone and I have heard nothing about it since it was initial announced.
sixth
I have no idea why im numbering these.

schrimes said:
Does anyone have a picture of what the new T-Mobile Wing looks like?
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cool concept... but i could never go back to a smart phone... gotta have the ppc OS for me ... or a damn good linux port!

I would love some linux action on htc devices.

g.baltazar,
Was it something like this one?
HTC Wing:
400MHz Samsung, Windows Mobile 6 Pro, 3G/HSDPA, 2.4"QVGA LCD, ROM 128MB, RAM 64MB, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS, 1.9-megapixel Camera, 50 x 100 x 19mm, 120g

Or perhaps he saw :gasps: a pre-release engineering version of the... *trembles* could it be??? The... *trembles again* KAISER?!?!?!?!?!?

Today screen countdown timer required

Hi
Has anyone seen a countdown timer that sits on the todayscreen? I am looking for a freeware version.
The reason is I am off on a holiday in less than 3 months and want to know how many days and hours till I go just by looking at my phone - (without opening a program hence the today screen) I have searched the forums for a few weeks but haven't found anything yet (but that could just be my searching technique!!).
Once the holiday is up I would look to use it for other events that are coming up.
thanks in advance

Wow, you must really want that holiday badly.
Job sucks, huh?

lol, yep!!
i'm going to new zealand for 3 weeks (and visiting someone out there ) - going to be hard to come back after!!
I'm also competing in a Half Marathon a few weeks prior, and need to know how many days left I have for training at a glance. So ideally the today app should pick up on the dates from the calender and then display them on the today screen (I think thats the ideal way...but i'm not a programmer so wouldn't know for sure! lol). I've seen quite a few countdown type programs but none that sit on the today screen (from what I can tell - want to preserve battery life so don't want it running constantly which is another reason why I like the idea of it going on the today screen and the Touch HD (or mine at least) needs the battery life preserving as much as possible - usually manage 2 days before charging - have run it out in 12 hours and less though before now....and once managed 4 days before charging....but that was without talking to anyone at all!!!)

Still no luck finding what i'm after - searched here and other forums - if anyone has seen something that is similar to what i'm looking for, please feel free to pm me.
does anyone know how to program this?
cheers

count down timer
Hi,
Try this little CAB used to use it on my tytn but not tried it on my HD.
Hope it works, enjoy your holls.
(it works on the today screen so cant use it with TF3D)
install then soft reset, then activate through settings.
regards
Jon

Thanks Jon, just what was needed and another satisfied xda-dev customer!
Edit update:
installed and running fine on the HD so far.

Have a great holiday. Hope she's worth it.
(BTW, whereabouts in NZ are you going?)

So do I!! lol
Going all over, visiting both Islands -North and South and trying to see and photograph as much as possible. Will be there for 3 weeks but the time will fly by too quickly before the reality of coming back to work sets in
My next task for the HD is to find some New Zealand maps for TT7 (in English of course) .....time to start another search!!

JPW said:
(it works on the today screen so cant use it with TF3D) install then soft reset, then activate through settings. Jon
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So Jon, it works in TF3D homescreen, no need for second today ? Is that right ?

JPW said:
Hi,
Try this little CAB used to use it on my tytn but not tried it on my HD.
Hope it works, enjoy your holls.
(it works on the today screen so cant use it with TF3D)
install then soft reset, then activate through settings.
regards
Jon
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Hi
Its a nice piece. But how to go about the setting. I can't find any setting in my blackstone. Thanks

ahmadiyyah said:
Hi
Its a nice piece. But how to go about the setting. I can't find any setting in my blackstone. Thanks
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Hi
I set mine up by going to the Start menu (I'm not using TF3D) settings, Today icon, then the Items tab, then touch T-Day Counter and press options on the right, then just input the the date you need to count down to and press OK top right. (making sure that it has a tick on the tickbox) and it should appear on the Today screen telling you how many days left
hope that helps
Will

3 (Three) UK Diamond ROM?

If such a ROM exists, i would like to use it to brand my phone to 3 to get the free skype calls, is there such a ROM?

what do you mean to get free skype calls?
You would still have to be on the 3 network.

Anthony2oo5 said:
what do you mean to get free skype calls?
You would still have to be on the 3 network.
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i know. but my current diamond is orange-branded.
i have got hardspl on it, and its unlocked, but i would like the free skype calls as i said, so i would just need the branded ROM as well as a 3 sim.

http://www.htc.com/au/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=451&news_id=24
does anyone know if that ROM has skype on it? also can someone give me the serial number of a 3 Australian HTC Diamond, as the page is asking for it in order to download?

warsng said:
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=451&news_id=24
does anyone know if that ROM has skype on it? also can someone give me the serial number of a 3 Australian HTC Diamond, as the page is asking for it in order to download?
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Why not just download the Skype app?
http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/windowsmobile/

if it was that easy, dont you think i would have done it by now???
to use the free calls offer, you have to use the 3 skype software, not the usual version.

warsng said:
if it was that easy, dont you think i would have done it by now???
to use the free calls offer, you have to use the 3 skype software, not the usual version.
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Sorry but perhaps you should be clearer next time about what you need and why.
You actually don't need a rom you need the software. You might be better off putting this in the general hacking section as I am sure all you need to do is get it from a WinMo based device. Not specifically a diamond.

Hi all,perhaps you may help out here.I have an HTC touch diamond and I'm in South Africa.
Now,I want to flash my rom as well to escape all the problems that are ROM related.I came across this rom:1.94.421.2 wwe,has anyone tried it and saw it is any good for a South African based HTC Diamond p3700.
Thanx

brumhee said:
Sorry but perhaps you should be clearer next time about what you need and why.
You actually don't need a rom you need the software. You might be better off putting this in the general hacking section as I am sure all you need to do is get it from a WinMo based device. Not specifically a diamond.
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you do actually need to download the 3 skype software, they don't let the normal skype software use the free calls things
http://www.three.co.uk/Internet_Services/Call_chat/Call_chat_service?content_aid=1220455597804
the only way to get the 3 skype software at the moment is to either buy a 3 skype phone, or use a ROM that has the software on it already. i also have a kaiser which i have heard has an official UK 3 rom, but don't use it as my primary phone.
3 have said they will be enabling all 3g phones to use their own version skype software later this year though, but i want to start using it now.

nice idea along with me being on 3 - ive scanned plenty and cant seem to find anything
keep reverting back to the Sony if i need it but sim swopping is a nightmare
bookemarked just incase anything comes up

Here you are:
http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/showpost.php?p=393278&postcount=46
Iskoot is the skype client 3 uses. Works perfectly for me

When I had my n95 on three to get the skype app all I did was go to planet3 on the phone and download skype on that. Im sure that could be done with windows mobile

Pabster said:
Here you are:
http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/showpost.php?p=393278&postcount=46
Iskoot is the skype client 3 uses. Works perfectly for me
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awesome find dude, many many thanks. are you able to use the free calls offer on this too?

warsng said:
awesome find dude, many many thanks. are you able to use the free calls offer on this too?
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Yeah it works for the free calls. I left it running on a skype call for half an hour and my voice minutes remained the same.
I'm not sure if there's a 3 windows live messenger for windows mobile. Someone got a java version working but it's a little low res for the diamond. Works great nonetheless.
http://www.modaco.com/content/kaiser-kaiser-modaco-com/263056/kaiser-on-3-network/#entry873798
Go down to post #9.

Pabster said:
Yeah it works for the free calls. I left it running on a skype call for half an hour and my voice minutes remained the same.
I'm not sure if there's a 3 windows live messenger for windows mobile. Someone got a java version working but it's a little low res for the diamond. Works great nonetheless.
http://www.modaco.com/content/kaiser-kaiser-modaco-com/263056/kaiser-on-3-network/#entry873798
Go down to post #9.
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nice one mate, it does indeed work. i feel like sending you actual money to show my gratitude
edit: ****, i spoke a bit soon there, the stupid iskoot is not persisting my changes to the registry, therefore it is no longer working, despite my repeated attempts to re-modify the registry after uninstalling and re-installing. argh!

warsng said:
nice one mate, it does indeed work. i feel like sending you actual money to show my gratitude
edit: ****, i spoke a bit soon there, the stupid iskoot is not persisting my changes to the registry, therefore it is no longer working, despite my repeated attempts to re-modify the registry after uninstalling and re-installing. argh!
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Thats strange, maybe it could be down to the rom youre using. Ive tried it on several roms and it worked fine.
The only thing I do is change BackupHost, CallURL, DefaultSKHost and BaseURL to http://mobile.three.co.uk/948, and run the program. That guide doesnt tell you to change 'BaseURL' which could be the problem. Do you change the phone number in the registry or anything else?

Pabster said:
Thats strange, maybe it could be down to the rom youre using. Ive tried it on several roms and it worked fine.
The only thing I do is change BackupHost, CallURL, DefaultSKHost and BaseURL to http://mobile.three.co.uk/948, and run the program. That guide doesnt tell you to change 'BaseURL' which could be the problem. Do you change the phone number in the registry or anything else?
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i tried it on the reconstructed 3 rom which was probably a bad idea, as the rom is a bit old now. i did change all those values to http://mobile.three.co.uk/948
i didnt change the phone number though, am i supposed to?
anyway i am off sick from work, so gonna try out a few different roms
annoying thing is, it did actually work. but when i exited, it just reverted the settings back to the defaults.
btw, which roms have u tried it on?
edit: yesssss, got it working again, using shifus latest rom.

warsng said:
i tried it on the reconstructed 3 rom which was probably a bad idea, as the rom is a bit old now. i did change all those values to http://mobile.three.co.uk/948
i didnt change the phone number though, am i supposed to?
anyway i am off sick from work, so gonna try out a few different roms
annoying thing is, it did actually work. but when i exited, it just reverted the settings back to the defaults.
btw, which roms have u tried it on?
edit: yesssss, got it working again, using shifus latest rom.
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Thats great that its working now. The link I provided had a different number to the one that came up in my registry so I think 3 changed it, therefore it wouldve been a bad idea to change the number in your registry.
I tried it on Nataly 2.4, Shaks 4.20 and several Energyroms. I think some roms revert the registry back to default after soft resets.

just as an aside, i recently bought a skypephone (S2), this is before i found out i could use iskoot on any WM6 phone.
the version on the S2 is 2.9.18. it doesn't appear to be a java app, but the voice quality is a lot lower than what i get on Windows XP Skype.
is the latest WM Iskoot version the 1.1 version? has anyone tried signing up through their form to see if they have updated it at all? i might give that a try...
3 have stated on their website that they will soon make the skype software available to all 3g users. i'm guessing they are going to do this using java, as how else would they be able to support the myriad phones OSes out there?
edit: looks like 1.1 is the latest....

Slide out doesn't wake up the device?

I just got a TP2 today, one little annoying thing is that it doesn't wake up when I slide out the keyboard.
There must be a setting for this surely? I can't find one anywhere though!
I have a Vodafone UK handset if this makes a difference, looks like they just skinned the touch flo comparing it to my wwe HD.

my does wake up, so I don't know what yours does not.. think what you've installed.

I've only copied my contacts over and used SMS... That's it nothing installed!
I even did a master reset and it didn't work 'out the box'.

Does the screen auto rotate if you have the phone switched on?

No mine doesn't open when I slide the keyboard out either. Also Vodafone

This is what someone from Voda said on their forum:
Jenny from Vodafone eForum said:
When the phone is in sleep mode, the only way to wake it up is to press the power button. Don’t worry, this is normal and isn’t a fault of any kind with your phone. smile.gif
All the best,
Jenny
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I responded saying it was not the case with HTC ROM, waiting for a reply now from them.
Surely there is a registry hack we can do to enable this? It's a really minor thing really but it's occasionally useful.
I noticed there is no YouTube player on the Voda ROM either, they've removed it for some reason!

Philio25 said:
This is what someone from Voda said on their forum:
I responded saying it was not the case with HTC ROM, waiting for a reply now from them.
Surely there is a registry hack we can do to enable this? It's a really minor thing really but it's occasionally useful.
I noticed there is no YouTube player on the Voda ROM either, they've removed it for some reason!
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Yes there is a reg hack.
\HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD
Make Slidewakeup = 1
Works great!

H5N1Duck said:
Yes there is a reg hack.
\HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD
Make Slidewakeup = 1
Works great!
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I knew there would be!
Thanks very much!!!

My T7373 Is Here !!! YAY !!

I haven't figured out how to do anything except insert the battery and sim but WOW .. My totally honest first impression is maybe I like it as well or better than my iphone .. That is saying A LOT !!!

If you like it already, just wait until you figure out how to turn it on!
And of course when you start flashing ROMS and so forth...
It is better than the iPhone yes, but it is an entirely different beast. Don't expect it to run perfectly stock. If you spend a little time hacking it you can get it to run almost exactly how you'd like it to.
And really, isn't hacking half the fun of owning a WinMo phone? I think so. Even after I have my phone set up perfectly on one ROM, the urge to reflash is so strong that I can only hold out for a month, maybe two at most, until I start all over again. Yay.

congrats! Once you start figuring your way around the phone be sure to visit this thread full of great apps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550973
If you have any questions you know who to call ghostbusters!
enjoy your new phone

That thread that burton gave you is definitely the best place to start, to learn about all sorts of things you can do with and to your new fav gadget.
Installing apps and tweaks to your phone is usually a simple matter of obtaining a .cab file for whatever you want to install, copy the .cab to your phone (to a file on the SD card is best, so you can leave them there for future re-use), and clicking on the .cab to run it. Once you're comfortable doing that, I would highly recommend running the two cabs I've attached here, they're a good idea for any new TP2 owner; they improve the native memory management in the phone, and free up memory much better once apps are done using it, and they'll go a long way towards making your whole experience better (without them, your memory use will keep creeping up on you until you reset).

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And really, isn't hacking half the fun of owning a WinMo phone?
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You are so right. I have the HTC Shift pretty much since it came to the USA .. I bought one - unleashed FULL WinMo .. sold it .. then missed it and bought another. I have Full WinMo and Phone on it .. I think all I need is blue-tooth on the WinMo side and for WinMo to recognize a memory card. Pretty sure neither of those hacks have been worked out. I can wait!!

PS .. thanks for the link and the files as well .. First thing I am going to do is sync my contacts .. then PLAY ..

Well the Shift is an even more different beast. That thing really is a mini-computer. Not sure how great of a phone it would make.
Anyone know if HTC is planning on coming out with a successor to the Shift?

The shift is for sure a computer. I have Win7 on it and WinMo 6 I think .. There is no bluetooth on the phone side so voice comes out of the speaker. If you held it up to your head it would look ridiculous.
Still ... it is nice to have a phone in it, only because you can

Miss my iphone desktop - Home Screen
I think I have been using my iphone too long because I am having a horrible time figuring out a design I like. I miss my iphone desktop.

If you haven't already, try out SPB mobile shell. It gives a very customizable interface w/ widgets.

I think I have that App .. I will first look on my computer for it . thanks. The thing that I find annoying that I haven't figured out is when I click on the phone to make a call. It opens half keypad half contacts. No "hard" buttons to scroll up and down through the contact list. .. correct ??

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I think I have that App .. I will first look on my computer for it . thanks. The thing that I find annoying that I haven't figured out is when I click on the phone to make a call. It opens half keypad half contacts. No "hard" buttons to scroll up and down through the contact list. .. correct ??
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That is partialy correct. It actually brings up your call log. To pull up a number from your contacts just start typing on the keypads (either the number i.e 818 555 1234 or the name ie. Dad = 323). You can also click the all contacts button and go to a pure list of contacts, which you can then scroll through with the touch screen.