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Is there going to be a section for the HTC Touch/elf soon? It was released yesterday. http://www.htctouch.com
I just ordered mine
Can't wait for it to get here.
OK, I have received my HTC Touch! It really is as amazing as it looks. Any questions or comments post here.
The only little problem I have had is the weather app. does not have a town close enough to me but I've solved that.
Here's what I did:
Go here http://www.accuweather.com/us-city-list.asp?zipcode=&u=1&partner=accuweather and find the weather page for your city/state/county. Take a look at the URL, on the end, you should see something like:
locCode=EUR|FI|FI002|HELSINKI|&u=1
(Helsinki is already in the weather file, this is just an example!)
Take a note of this.
The file we need to edit is read-only, and I can't see a way of editing it via activesync/windows. I just got a load of write-protect errors. I got a tool called TotalCommander, it's a freeware file viewer/editor for the PPC.
In TotalCommander, navigate to \Windows\ and open HH_0409_WeatherCities.xml
Once you're inside this file all you need to do is copy an existing entry and make sure you put in the corresponding weather data from the step above.
Ex.
<city name="Helsinki, FI" locationcode="EUR|FI|FI002|HELSINKI"/>
Easy
Questions...
indeed I have a lot of questions
first congratulations for getting this awesome device so fast. I think of buying it because it's nearly of the same size as my HTC S620 Excalibur smartphone but I have NO experience in PPCs...
So here we go
1. how is the battery life
(I know it will last a while until you can say something significant)
2. how much memory is available
(internal user Flash and RAM) - on my S620 I have installed nearly everything I regularly need on the phone since it has 66MB of user flash available)
3. Can you run TomTom on it?
4. any software issues with installing third party programs
5. how is the screen?
good readable in direct sunlight?
6. how is the screen protection?
Is it soft as a usual touch screen or hard as a mobile phone screen?
Is it possible to mount a screen protector without losing "touch control"?
7. how is the loudspeaker?
loud and clear enough for navigation in car?
8. Do you have the possibility to compare the speed with a standard smartphone?
That's it for the first - maybe to come more if I have forgotten something
Thanks in advance for your answers
and habe a lot of fun with your new toy
Hi!
I will try and answer your questions as accurately as possible, but bear in mind I have only had this device for a little over 12 hours, and I had to sleep at some point during those hours.
1. Battery life so far is good. HTC state battery life should be 5 hours talk and 200h standby and I think this is quite accurate.
When I got it it was partially charged. I charged it for an hour or 2 (while using it) and used it heavily after that, around 4 hours of bluetoothing, wifi and camera. This morning the battery is at 57%. I'm quite happy with that, considering I have not even given it even 1 full charge/discharge cycle.
2. 128MB of ROM and 64MB of RAM. 32.5MB Free out-of-box. It comes with a 1gb microSD but I've already upgraded to 2gb.
3. Yep, TomTom is one of the first things I installed
4. No software issues so far, but I have only installed a couple of games and Spb GPRS Monitor. My one gripe software-wise is that there is no 'Internet Calling', no built-in voip.
5. The screen is great. Really clear, crisp and readable. The WM6 image they have has cleartype (no tuning application, mind)
6. Screen protection is not great. The screen itself is flush to the phone, there is no recess like other touch-screen devices. While this makes it look great, and makes it easy to touch buttons on the edge, it also makes it very scratchable. Luckily the phone comes with a nice little HTC case. The case is a snug fit, not big or obtrusive, no straps, loops or anything. It is a spongy material with soft interior. I am not using a screen protector because the case will do just fine. The screen protector that's included with the device looks like it would fit well and go almost unnoticed but I am a bit reluctant to put it on because you already have to be very 'positive' with the screen to get it to react. This is by no means a bad thing, by the way. Overall, it feels good to use.
7. I have yet to properly test the loudspeaker. I gave tomtom a quick blast and from what I heard, I think it would be fine in a car.
8. Well I have moved to this device from a HTC hermes. Yes, there is a difference in speed but I personally dont find it a problem. I would consider myself a bit more than a casual PDA user (if that makes any sense). I use it for work, surfing, gaming and obviously phone calls/sms and I dont have a problem with the speed. I think this is possibly an unfair comparison however, as something that may take 5 seconds on a hermes could take 10 on the Touch -- but the hermes would have crashed half way
The only smartphone I have really had experience with is the N91. I found the N91 so slow I had to get rid of it. I'm keeping the Touch
Hope this has cleared a few things up.
VOIP
Is it possible to run programs like skype for VOIP on the HTC touch?
And how is the quality of the camera and music?
Thanks
How's the Cube Touch interface?
alanp23 said:
OK, I have received my HTC Touch! It really is as amazing as it looks. Any questions or comments post here.
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Hi alanp23. Firstly congrats on your new HTC Touch. I love the flush look of this baby and would much prefer this over any i-phone wanna be PDA.
As your no newbie to PPC's, you'll undoubtedly be aware that you can overclock the TiOmap processor to about 240- 260Mhz without issue.
I found my old overclocked HTC Prophet outperformed my 400Mhz Hermes. Fancy that!!
Anyway...cut to the chase. I know you have hardly had your device for a few minutes, but would you mind making your ROM/extended ROM visible and seeing if there is a cab file for the Cube Touch software? If you are able to extract it and upload it here or to the Athena forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310459
This would be greatly appreciated by the xda community as we could try and see if it would be possible to run on other devices.
I doubt very much if it will run on the Athena, but we're all willing to give it a run.
What do you say? Up for it? Thanks if you are and I understand if you're not.
Either way, enjoy your new toy, it looks fab.
P.S. If your using TomTom and haven't checked out an alternative, you simply must have a look at the repackaged version of iGo My Way GPS software known as MioMap v3.2 with the Quicksilver Map. It's far better and more accurate than TomTom and much more configurable. Also, it takes up much less space on your device.
alanp23 said:
Hi!
Hope this has cleared a few things up.
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YES!
Thank you very much - I can't wait to come back home from my business trip to order a TOUCH! Great!!! Better than expected so far.
mackaby007 said:
... making your ROM/extended ROM visible and seeing if there is a cab file for the Cube Touch software?
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there is a touch.dll as well as I heard...
r0p3 said:
there is a touch.dll as well as I heard...
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Please do share where and what exactly you have learnt in relation to this.
I can just see some of the programmers here hacking and improving on it somehow so the rest of us can benefit from it. That would be cool.
Don't get the information lost, please use this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310624 to talk about dumping the HTC Touch. We must get together to get it.
mackaby007 said:
Hi alanp23. Firstly congrats on your new HTC Touch. I love the flush look of this baby and would much prefer this over any i-phone wanna be PDA.
As your no newbie to PPC's, you'll undoubtedly be aware that you can overclock the TiOmap processor to about 240- 260Mhz without issue.
I found my old overclocked HTC Prophet outperformed my 400Mhz Hermes. Fancy that!!
Anyway...cut to the chase. I know you have hardly had your device for a few minutes, but would you mind making your ROM/extended ROM visible and seeing if there is a cab file for the Cube Touch software? If you are able to extract it and upload it here or to the Athena forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310459
This would be greatly appreciated by the xda community as we could try and see if it would be possible to run on other devices.
I doubt very much if it will run on the Athena, but we're all willing to give it a run.
What do you say? Up for it? Thanks if you are and I understand if you're not.
Either way, enjoy your new toy, it looks fab.
P.S. If your using TomTom and haven't checked out an alternative, you simply must have a look at the repackaged version of iGo My Way GPS software known as MioMap v3.2 with the Quicksilver Map. It's far better and more accurate than TomTom and much more configurable. Also, it takes up much less space on your device.
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me too me too
mackaby007 said:
As your no newbie to PPC's, you'll undoubtedly be aware that you can overclock the TiOmap processor to about 240- 260Mhz without issue.
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Any threads I can read regarding this?
mackaby007 said:
Anyway...cut to the chase. I know you have hardly had your device for a few minutes, but would you mind making your ROM/extended ROM visible and seeing if there is a cab file for the Cube Touch software? If you are able to extract it and upload it here or to the Athena forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310459
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And again Any threads I can read? I have never dumped a ROM before -- only flashed one. I am willing to try it an even spend a little time trying to get a working cab together for you guys. I am a software engineer and although I dont code for PDAs I'm sure I can work out how this works.
Thanks.
alanp23 please check your P. Messages please
alanp23 said:
Hi!
4. ... My one gripe software-wise is that there is no 'Internet Calling', no built-in voip.
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Does this mean that I won't be able to use the VoIP "tweak" in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299950 ?
If thats true then it really sucks ;-(
Touch rom dump
I am very interested in a full rom dump of touch, alanp23 if you can make this...
Thanks
FAMAN said:
I am very interested in a full rom dump of touch, alanp23 if you can make this...
Thanks
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look over there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1303808#post1303808
walstoned just did it
alanp23 said:
OK, I have received my HTC Touch! It really is as amazing as it looks. Any questions or comments post here.
The only little problem I have had is the weather app. does not have a town close enough to me but I've solved that.
Here's what I did:
Go here http://www.accuweather.com/us-city-list.asp?zipcode=&u=1&partner=accuweather and find the weather page for your city/state/county. Take a look at the URL, on the end, you should see something like:
locCode=EUR|FI|FI002|HELSINKI|&u=1
(Helsinki is already in the weather file, this is just an example!)
Take a note of this.
The file we need to edit is read-only, and I can't see a way of editing it via activesync/windows. I just got a load of write-protect errors. I got a tool called TotalCommander, it's a freeware file viewer/editor for the PPC.
In TotalCommander, navigate to \Windows\ and open HH_0409_WeatherCities.xml
Once you're inside this file all you need to do is copy an existing entry and make sure you put in the corresponding weather data from the step above.
Ex.
<city name="Helsinki, FI" locationcode="EUR|FI|FI002|HELSINKI"/>
Easy
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Tried it, but the url I see is : http://www.accuweather.com/us/fl/na...recast.asp?partner=accuweather&u=1&traveler=1
Does not match up to anything I see to modify.
Anyone else get this to work? I love the new home page, but miss weather panel now.
I cheated and found it by using a firefox plugin... it worked for me
The addon/plugin is called "forecastfox" https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/398
Seems to work fine in FF v3
Enjoy!
alanp23 said:
OK, I have received my HTC Touch! It really is as amazing as it looks. Any questions or comments post here.
The only little problem I have had is the weather app. does not have a town close enough to me but I've solved that.
Here's what I did:
Go here http://www.accuweather.com/us-city-list.asp?zipcode=&u=1&partner=accuweather and find the weather page for your city/state/county. Take a look at the URL, on the end, you should see something like:
locCode=EUR|FI|FI002|HELSINKI|&u=1
(Helsinki is already in the weather file, this is just an example!)
Take a note of this.
The file we need to edit is read-only, and I can't see a way of editing it via activesync/windows. I just got a load of write-protect errors. I got a tool called TotalCommander, it's a freeware file viewer/editor for the PPC.
In TotalCommander, navigate to \Windows\ and open HH_0409_WeatherCities.xml
Once you're inside this file all you need to do is copy an existing entry and make sure you put in the corresponding weather data from the step above.
Ex.
<city name="Helsinki, FI" locationcode="EUR|FI|FI002|HELSINKI"/>
Easy
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hey thanks for the that, i have my code as AFR|ZA|SF009|POLOKWANE. it works on the website but it give me "Unable to retrieve data for selected city when i use the today plugin on my touch.
weather plugin
I can't edit this file - HH_0409_WeatherCities.xml - because it is in ROM. I can edit it on PC but I can't overwrite it on the older version. Any idea?
Thanks
I did create a post..asking if anyone had started work on this...
Got not one reply...
Seeing as i have them both.. x1 and HD..
So.. i thought.... Lets have a go....
Proof of concept only.....not a distributable version.
Sony Xperia X1 Panels.....Running on Touch HD
It's got a long way to go and lots of work needed... but it should
end up a very good addition to the Touch HD, and once done, work can commence on porting to different resolutions.
I like the look of this front end alot better than the TF3D
What do you guys reckon?
THERE IS NO CAB. ASK AT YOUR PERIL!
Anyone asking for it, will be flogged, tarred, feathered and called a leper!
Staus Updates
11/12/2008
There has been advances but very slow ones, It has been very "finiky" getting those "right changes" to commit more "stability changes"
It is because the HD was never meant to host Panels, and thus, is causing me a real pain in the backside! I'm currently looking at different roms, and versions of software, to try alternate file versions, to see if a combination is what is needed. Once this part is done, it should address a great deal of issues. Upto about 3 Hard resets a night, I think i should have a special button to do it on the back!
03/12/2008
It has been brought to my attention, there is a Cab available on another thread, but i have no input on this.
It is at the same point i was about a month ago.
It is a simple copy and paste from a X1 and is unstable.
I did not put out a version like this, as It requires your phone be reset after running panels after about 5 times, and i am aware why.
I thought It would be unfair to users to give them something that would pretty much trash the stability of the HD.
You know where it is if you do not care about this, and just want to install it.
I will not be putting out my version till i know atleast it will not trash your phone. That would subtract from the work done, and after some of us spending 500GBP+ the last thing needed is a paperweight.
01/12/2008
With the help of 'Keni'.. a new junior member... He has helped move us along also.. and produced...
The Panel icon on the titlebar.
It does need work.. and for it to function i need help again from nelshh
But he has no-doubt spent alot of time.. and got some code done.
I have to commend his effort.. and now wish to happily add him to the contributer list along with nelshh
See post 304 for pic and wmv
Thanks keni !
I am still working on te next alpha build and am struggling with the concurrence manager.
After using panels chooser anywhere from 5-10 times.. it egg timers out.. and batt out is the only recourse.
The testing on one of my HD's is now at a point.. it is a daily reset at minimum,,, but i'll carry on.
27/11/08
This has been such a painful last few days.... I have had unknown numbers of hard-resets trying to get the failing panels to operate properly.
2 developers are currently trying to help create the panel icon (see post 104) If anyone else can help aaswell...????
At the moment.. it's still doign my head in... but i am still working on this..
Those of you who have made donations.. and the kind words.. I am very grateful... and the bottle of White Zinfandel has been bought.. and shall be devoured tomorrow by her.!
I know alot of you guys are awaiting on me.. and that's why i haven't stopped.
Thanks guys... (and their mrs's for not divorcing them!)
PS.. my wife also wants a developer to create a couple of buttons on her omnia.
One button = Husband puts down phones!
Two Button = Husband does not grunt when asked question by her.. cos he is engrossed in panels!
Three button = Husband does not buy another new phone ever ever ever again!
I told her.. this is impossible... but she still asked me to find out.
23/11/08
The Alpha Cab has gone out to 5 selected testers.
This is a test version.. with many bugs.
So far.. this is the feedback
It installs.
It launches
It works
However.
Media panel & Facebook panel don't work on Alpha 0.02
Panel launcher Working. 3 testers had issues with relaunches after 5 times.It then becomes unresponsive
TF3d / Coloured Xperia / Silver Xperia / Radio Panel / SPB Panel / Google panel and Fish Panel all operate.
Animation works well on all.
I will work to address some of these.. and release a second alpha cab only to the Alpha testers.
19/11/2008
Alpha Build 0.02.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4rnX1V8cLiw
15/11/2008
Big jump made by all work done by nelshh (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=916337)
He has developed a working prototype that will call the panel manager tab.
So.. AS OF TODAY.. the 15th.. thanks to nelshh, we have something that now functions..and needs finalising and wrapping.
I will contact people to see if you can also help.
But please give nelshh a big thanks on this thread... for all his work in his project Xperiatweak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440035)... and also his work on here.
Thanks nelshh
15/11/2008
Added Tube video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jo0ZhxOi8s
12/11/2008
added yet another tube.. GSen and the Panels... It works...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8fqQFMKCRJc
10/11/2008
Added another Video.... showing all progress...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz3zptQed7Q
hi,
Am sure lot of guys here would be interested to do the testing & developement for you.Can you post here, how you started with porting panels onto HD? I searched for the panels cab and cant find anything on this xda ? Would be useful if you could give some more information,
regards
vijayvasa
works fine on HD?
Is much slower than xperia?
The panels looks good on HD as comapre to X1 because of the large screen. Do share the cabs and procedure to do that once you are done.
Thanks in advance.
Hope the panels work faster than on the X1 otherwise they are useless. On the X1 they are way to slow to work productively with them.
But the chance that they work faster on the HD are small, right? Cos the hardware of both the X1 and the HD are about the same, are they?
Also looking forward for a cab file for testing them by myself.
Ascenca
Hello Harvsingh,
I would be very interested in helping you, but I have absolutely no experience in programing (besides my old ti-83plus). Do you think I could help you somehow? Can you tell me what I should do? I don't want to loose this project only because nobody here wants to help... So, if I can do something, I'll try to do it!! I think I'll get my HD this week, than I can try everything and if you tell me, also other things. I really want to help... Greez, cad^^
Wow HarvSingh !
Good for you! Looks like a good job on the face of it!
Great to see this post!
Have seen someone porting TouchFlo3D to Xperia, and was wondering whether anyone would port the Xperia Panel over to Touch HD.
Well, hopefully you would share the cab file for the rest of us to do a test on it, and more people to come and improve on it.
Do you manage to get the gold fish to work too? Guess it would really be nice to let the gold fish swim on the bigger screen.
multan said:
Great to see this post!
Have seen someone porting TouchFlo3D to Xperia, and was wondering whether anyone would port the Xperia Panel over to Touch HD.
Well, hopefully you would share the cab file for the rest of us to do a test on it, and more people to come and improve on it.
Do you manage to get the gold fish to work too? Guess it would really be nice to let the gold fish swim on the bigger screen.
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Thanks for the words.....
Yes.. all panels work.. but not after a reboot..
Fish are very happy in the bigger tank.. and stroking the screen has the same affect on scared little fishy
It's now a case in finding out what is causing it to flap itself on a reboot.
On a hard reset... going through my way to wedge the panels in.. works... then on reboot... i cannot start it.
Also.. after selecting the panel you want.. i'm still to find the call it makes from the X1 panel button to call up panel chooser with the tiled view.. so. when you've selected the panel.. you cannot re-choose another.
but.. this is my first day in doing this.. and i guess i'll plod along.. till i find it.. or just think screw it.
SingaporeAirlines said:
Wow HarvSingh !
Good for you! Looks like a good job on the face of it!
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Thanks.... good to know i'm not the only one who would have liked to see it on the HD or others
Have you definitely told it to not load the TouchFlo3D? That may interfere with it after a reboot.
Acelister said:
Have you definitely told it to not load the TouchFlo3D? That may interfere with it after a reboot.
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Yes...
But i'm now exploring reg of the X1 to see if it does anything else....
cadenza said:
Hello Harvsingh,
I would be very interested in helping you, but I have absolutely no experience in programing (besides my old ti-83plus). Do you think I could help you somehow? Can you tell me what I should do? I don't want to loose this project only because nobody here wants to help... So, if I can do something, I'll try to do it!! I think I'll get my HD this week, than I can try everything and if you tell me, also other things. I really want to help... Greez, cad^^
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Same thing here. Would like to help with it also I really dont have much experience with WM at all. But I will help where I can cos this project has to develop to a fine product
harvsingh said:
Thanks.... good to know i'm not the only one who would have liked to see it on the HD or others
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Well to be honest, the Panels are more a marketing USP than anything else. While they are convenient, I have no issue or propensity against going into each thing separately as per normal.
But if you could get it working fully, it would be great. SonyEricsson wouldn't be too happy about it though I think !
For me, this is an extremely exieting project, because I only hoped/feared that there'll be some developers, bringing some great programs for the panels and nobody else could use them. Like spb-panel, I like it really a lot from what I've seen in videos. So, than I could have the best of both worlds, on a biiig screen^^ please, work on, I'm sure I'm not the only one who's very, very interestet in this project!!! And I want to congratulate you already for the work you've done until now!! Its amazing!!! Go on, finish it I wish you good, good luck and if you need any help I could do, I give you my word that I'll try to do my best!! Many greez, cad^^
Hi all
Video showing it running on a Touch Hd.. for the conspiracy theorists.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jo0ZhxOi8s
I don't get the video. Could you explain what's going on ?
I didn't have the audio on, if there was any, but it's just showing that it's possible. That's the first time I've seen it in action, and I'll admit it may be a little slow, but it looks better than the TouchFlo3D... I'd definitely install it.
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I didn't have the audio on, if there was any, but it's just showing that it's possible. That's the first time I've seen it in action, and I'll admit it may be a little slow, but it looks better than the TouchFlo3D... I'd definitely install it.
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No-one wants to hear me talk...
So. i just quicky launched it up.. and ran through..
All buttons work.. i was trying to juggle a TYTN II... look at the phone and tytn.. and press buttons... so .. i may not have pressed buttons properly..
But.. trust me.. they all work... and as quick/quicker than on the Sony X1.def not slower.
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No-one wants to hear me talk...
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lol, nothing personal just my wife's asleep next to me, unwell.
But good news on the speed. I do hope you're able to make an easy to use cab file of it. No hurry as far as I'm concerned though. Not getting an HD yet. But definitely the first thing I'll download for it!
Hello everyone,
I've used my PDA2K on & off for the past 5 years but have always felt it's pretty much not worth the effort using it for anything serious. The net is slow and the general Windows 2003 SE operating system fragile, I reckon I've soft reset a thousand times since owning the unit. What advice can anyone give on how to improve it's capabilities & make it less boring to use, what change should I try. I'm not worried about frying the ROM as I only use this to surf the net nowadays & thats about it, just feel it's too good to bin but want to get something more out of it than I'm getting now.
Thanks any advice on possible software changes would be appreciated.
i would say...try win 6.5..no doubt you like that
regard stef
The PDA2K is still the best device if you need a mobile log typing unit. It's beacuse of the built in keyboard and the big portrait format screen (wich is the best if you have to to type in lists, contact data a.s.o.). This unique feature is the reason why I can't change my PPC.
Win 6.5 for me is not so important, there are few drawbacks compared to WM2003SE (no build in Excel encryption, less usable screen area (because of hotkeys), no direct menus in office applications.
install wm5, when you get bored install SPB Mobile Shell, when you get bored again change the color of the menu
seriously its quite nice app, have nice launcher etc... try it...
Thanks
Don't get me wrong I love it but just feel I'm missing something as I'm sure it's capable of so much more.
I'll take the advice and have a play with upgrading, do current 2003 apps such as my TomTom run on the upgrades. Even if not I think I'll give it a go anyway.
Thanks again for the replies
Yes it works on new WM version
I think he becomes unconfortable of the buggy WMG.S (or 6.5 we use other names cause Mycrosooft hunts us) you need to taste first WM6... then 6.1 his manilla 2D is great... and then G.S is beta but fine... try it all but men
follow everything step by step at upgrading please if you have any question ask here please.
Not so Boring now
Well + Que PPC and others,
I took your advice and upgraded and its a lot less boring.
I can't sync though, it tries but the an error message appears on BA moaning about a USB port not being available.
When I now turn on the BA I get a white screeb with start and a few icons at the top and Phone + Contacts at the bottom, clicking start takes me to a black screen with icons. If I soft reset I get the red/green/blue/white stripes while it resets.
Is all this normal or am I still stuck in bootloader, I'm new to all this so what I mean is could this be something I've not finished off correctly that is stopping me syncing now.
I don't mind fixing all the other problems once I can sync OK.
tjpearson said:
Well + Que PPC and others,
I took your advice and upgraded and its a lot less boring.
I can't sync though, it tries but the an error message appears on BA moaning about a USB port not being available.
When I now turn on the BA I get a white screeb with start and a few icons at the top and Phone + Contacts at the bottom, clicking start takes me to a black screen with icons. If I soft reset I get the red/green/blue/white stripes while it resets.
Is all this normal or am I still stuck in bootloader, I'm new to all this so what I mean is could this be something I've not finished off correctly that is stopping me syncing now.
I don't mind fixing all the other problems once I can sync OK.
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Heh tjpearson, you was searching for new use cases. I suggested to use your device more professionally. You decided to have an OS update. This way you decided the best use case for you is trouble shouting.
Seriously, I can't understand why OS upgrading is such an important thing on the BA. The benefits of the device lies in the big screen and the built in keyboard. If you search for a nice GUI take a iPhone.
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Hiya pdahunter,
I have no idea what you mean or what your advising.
All I want is to surf and keep important notes plus store my gadget PDF manuals plus photography bumph.
Hey ho going for a bath now and then bed, tomos night going to watch United win, I hope, so won't be able to look at this again til Thursday night.
Hope I've no fkd this Pocket PC up with what I've done.
come on guys!!!! why always this ends like this F***N S**T THINGS!!!
EGZTHUNDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! come on men! make your job here please...
I will prepare the scene for you a little...
@pearson
First of all please tell us wich ROM did u upload... again... please full charge your batt before UPGRADE...
I can't sync though, it tries but the an error message appears on BA moaning about a USB port not being available.
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Men write exactly the error message please, Meaning it says this... I guess i need to do.... I think my problem is... are worthless words here please provide exact messages. (does you enable the checkbox advanced network on setting usb settings?)
When I now turn on the BA I get a white screeb with start and a few icons at the top and Phone + Contacts at the bottom, clicking start takes me to a black screen with icons.
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The white screen cant be posible men... I will xplain you the new OS built..
If I can guess what you've upgrade... I mean I nedd to know wich ROM are you upgrade please provide the name or the link where you find it...
FIRST: The OS 2003 didnt has the soft buttons PHONE at left bottom and right at right bottom cause the new OS are designed for PDA phones that has buttons on that place... thats all... ok.
SECOND: you said that when you tap on start it tooks you to a black screen with icons i gueeeeeeees you have WM6.5 cause since WM2003 we had start cascade menu like windows XP or VISTA or Whatever... Thats normal on WM6.5 if you want the older start menu? just... downgrade a WM6 or 6.1 it has the older start menu.
THIRD:
If I soft reset I get the red/green/blue/white stripes while it resets.
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Well the boot screen is hardcoded in roms so... is not an issue is normal we can only change the splashscreen...
known new features and pro's for a new ROM tooks its time men I mean new apps and programs are not supported with WM2003 so this is the very first pro of upgrading...
You are not stuck on bootloader or... are you on a black screen with Serial or USB upside and downside a version... it is BOOTLOADER not the RGB screen! ok?
if it cant boots and it cant pass trough the tricolor screen well seems you need to upgrade again maybe your batt was dead on middle process and it dont have enough batt to boot... but maybe you dont wait the time... or maybe you need reupgrade a rom...
Dont be so alarmed men your device is fine calm down you are not brick jejeje
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Heh tjpearson, you was searching for new use cases. I suggested to use your device more professionally. You decided to have an OS update. This way you decided the best use case for you is trouble shouting.
Seriously, I can't understand why OS upgrading is such an important thing on the BA. The benefits of the device lies in the big screen and the built in keyboard. If you search for a nice GUI take a iPhone.
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Seriously You need to get an Iphone the phone for kiddos... thats all I can say cause you dont help here anything...
Im gettin so frustrated and angry with this kind of guys!
If I offense somebody
Im appologized but I will not delete my post!
I will defend my point if anybody wants me to be banned its ok for me...
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@PDAHUNTER
Seriously You need to get an Iphone the phone for kiddos... thats all I can say cause you dont help here anything...
Im gettin so frustrated and angry with this kind of guys!
If I offense somebody
Im appologized but I will not delete my post!
I will defend my point if anybody wants me to be banned its ok for me...
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1. I did not change nor delete anything here.
2. Again, why change the OS to a Version the device is not made for. The only reason I can see is a better system GUI or new applications with a better GUI. That's why I suggest to take a iPhone if this is important.
3. I'm frustrated because I'm realy interested in the technical benefits of WM6.x. Better WLAN Connection? Stereo Bluetooth? Some unique apps that doesn't run on wm2003?
But as soon somebody speaks about WM6 on the BA the focus changes to trouble shouting.
4. Why it's not helpful to say "Don't change the OS version if you search for better use cases!" ?
Great!! you have your OWN ANSWER
I'm frustrated because I'm realy interested in the technical benefits of WM6.x. Better WLAN Connection? Stereo Bluetooth? Some unique apps that doesn't run on wm2003?
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EXACTLY! thats why OS upgrading imports... thats why this matters!
So does A2dp run on wm2003... noup!!!! it runs till wm5 aku version upgrade...
Congrats.. oh and the issues on boot and other things are almost non follow step by step processes...!
Congrats.. oh and the issues on boot and other things are almost non follow step by step processes...! [/QUOTE]
correct...did you do a HARD reset afhter flashing?
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Sorry, Sorry, Sorry
WOH I didn't mean to upset anyone here, I'm learning.
Have no idea of what I'm doing apart from trying to update my BA to surf the net faster, be better to use and so I don't have to soft reset every 2 minutes. This is my 1st attempt, if I've gone in too deep then tell me, I'll back grade to 2003 and start again with whatever you recommend.
You know your stuff so stay friendly, calm down and I can help you set up race suspension on a Yamaha R6 for the best cornering Or if you want advice on patching a Technomate Satellite box I'm your man.
I will go back to 2003 and you tell me what to update, cos you are the men that know, I defo don't, nice one !!
Oh jpearson you are not the one in troubles here...
Well... I can tell you every steps but men.... Im on my job...
So i havent enough time to post here the process... but if you accept i can add you via MSN just PM me dont post your email here...
If not you just need to be sure follow this steps exactly how is said if you have any question ask here please ok
let me search for the link.
Okay so for Christmas I got the HTC Tilt 2 with WM6.5 on the AT&T network. Its a great phone but I want to make it better. Through some google searches and what not I found this site and knew i had to join anyway....
Okay so one think I am desperately looking for is a flash player, mainly so I can watch youtube videos. I tried Adobe Flash Lite but it didnt work and the youtube mobile app didn't work either. So anyway know of any good flash player?
Another thing is this is my first smart phone my last phone (some samsung thing) could barely call and text people so im still learning the ropes with this thing and have therefore never edited anything on my phone. So a basic description of like what exactly a ROM is and Flashing a ROM. Also is a skin for TF3D just a skin or is it like I guess what you call a ROM? Then the Radio I am almost sure when it says "Flash a Radio" its not talking about the FM AM kind is it?
Also I have seen some pretty sweet skins but I dont plan on changing my skin every week so I am looking for just an amazing skin! So if you know any sleek, modern, colorful, simplistic, clean skins a quick link would be great!
Bah! While I am asking all these questions can someone please explain why the HTC Tilt 2 (or any HTC phone for that matter) fall under the "Rhodium" category and what relation does it have to the phone.
Again just trying to familiarize myself with what I am doing before i do this so called "Flashing".
Also any basic info that may help a person like me.
Again thanks in advanced for the help looking forward to being more part of this community!
Congrats on getting the device. You'll either love it or hate it...
Re: Flash player
The new Pocket IE browser supports built in flash. I recall there's another browser that does as well, but I can't remember. Skyfire? Someone else should be able to come up with the name...
Re: definition of ROM and Radio
Suggest you to read about them in the wiki. ROM is your device's firmware. Radio is the software that controls your cellular reception and GPS.
Skin for TF3D does not equal ROM. Essentially it's a theme. Before installing themes, make sure the theme is made for your version of manila. But if it's a cab file, you can simply uninstall to reverse any changes.
Re: the name of your device
The Tilt2 is the same as HTC Touch Pro2. Rhodium is HTC's code name for this family of devices. The "Tilt" name is just AT&T's branding.
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Okay so for Christmas I got the HTC Tilt 2 with WM6.5 on the AT&T network. Its a great phone but I want to make it better. Through some google searches and what not I found this site and knew i had to join anyway....
Okay so one think I am desperately looking for is a flash player, mainly so I can watch youtube videos. I tried Adobe Flash Lite but it didnt work and the youtube mobile app didn't work either. So anyway know of any good flash player?
Another thing is this is my first smart phone my last phone (some samsung thing) could barely call and text people so im still learning the ropes with this thing and have therefore never edited anything on my phone. So a basic description of like what exactly a ROM is and Flashing a ROM. Also is a skin for TF3D just a skin or is it like I guess what you call a ROM? Then the Radio I am almost sure when it says "Flash a Radio" its not talking about the FM AM kind is it?
Also I have seen some pretty sweet skins but I dont plan on changing my skin every week so I am looking for just an amazing skin! So if you know any sleek, modern, colorful, simplistic, clean skins a quick link would be great!
Bah! While I am asking all these questions can someone please explain why the HTC Tilt 2 (or any HTC phone for that matter) fall under the "Rhodium" category and what relation does it have to the phone.
Again just trying to familiarize myself with what I am doing before i do this so called "Flashing".
Also any basic info that may help a person like me.
Again thanks in advanced for the help looking forward to being more part of this community!
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So, I got this phone back in September. This was also my first smartphone. I read and read through all the tutorials here on ROMs, radios, flashing, and registry tweaks. The answers to the majority of your questions are in the FAQs/XDA-Wiki.
HTC YouTube App: I think there's a fix available here on XDA. I think itt has something to do with editting the connection settings. You might want to search for that using the search function of the forum.
ROM (flashing): think of it as like upgrading your PC from XP to Vista or Vista to 7.
TF3D (aka Manila or Sense): a UI (user interface) it's sort of a skin on top of Windows Mobile. Since WM is old and appearance hasn't improved that much, HTC implemented this UI to cover up some flaws of WM.
Radio-ROM: No, that's not the FM Radio. It's a software thing that handles the phone capabilities of the phone (the Tilt2 is a PDA/phone).
(Changing) Themes: There's a lot of themes out there to suit our personalities! Go look! Besides, when you get addicted to flashing, you'll get used to changing things and setting things up over and over again!
Rhodium: (I just completed a Chemistry course; I never knew this was an element on the Periodic Table!) HTC code name of the Touch Pro2 and Tilt2.
Feel free to PM me if you need any help. Like I said, it's also my first smartphone, and I would have to say I learned a lot since I first got it (pretty recently). So I would know what you're experiencing right now.
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The new Pocket IE browser supports built in flash. I recall there's another browser that does as well, but I can't remember. Skyfire? Someone else should be able to come up with the name...
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Yes, Skyfire has full flash support and is very fast because everything goes through SkyfireLab servers. However, video playback quality will be horrible (especially YouTube!).
I just remembered, if you go to m.youtube.com in Opera Mobile Browser and you press on a video, the video will play in the HTC Video Player. So, it's not really playing in the browser; it's like you're downloading the video into your Tilt2.
Ah ok cool. Yea I have skyfire I forgot it did flash but the resolution is a bit fuzzy. Pretty sure I will love it just as soon as I figure out what in the world im doing! Since I love customizing and tweaking things which is the main reason I didnt go with an iPhone that and the full QWERTY keyboard.
I guess I shall read the wiki/faq
Welcome to forums
You had a great gift for Xmas!!
I assume you still have the stock ROM, which I personally think it´s crap...
I would recommend to install a cooked ROM from this great site!
Onalmost any cooked ROM you have the youtube app so you can see videos
Have a deep read on the Rhodium Wiki so you start to familiarize with all that you can do
Good luck and don´t forget to vote!
Yea love the phone but yes I still have the Stock ROM (hey I know what I am talking about now!) yes it is crap. Not liking the fact that it constantly stays at 74% RAM.
Oh you just reminded me abotu another question of mine.
How do I get rid of all the freakin trail ware that came pre-loaded on this phone! I think I read in multiple places most good ROMS should get rid of that.
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Yea love the phone but yes I still have the Stock ROM (hey I know what I am talking about now!) yes it is crap. Not liking the fact that it constantly stays at 74% RAM.
Oh you just reminded me abotu another question of mine.
How do I get rid of all the freakin trail ware that came pre-loaded on this phone! I think I read in multiple places most good ROMS should get rid of that.
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LOL I think every ROM here gets rid of that crapware!
Ok good because it keeps me up at night just knowing that its on my phone >
Ok cool just read the Wiki found a list of ROMs that look great > just 2 possible more questions
1) Ok so it says I should back up my phone completely before flashing which makes sense. But to where? I have my conacts and stuff on Microsoft MyPhone but Im pretty sure my apps and everything else isnt on there. Do i Just copy all the phones files and paste them somewhere on my computer?
2) Just incase something goes horribly wrong is there a Hard Reset on the phone that No matter what the phone will go back to factory reset. Even after flashing?
There is a YouTube app included on the Tilt 2. It is hidden from the Start Menu by default. If you open File Manager and browse to the Windows directory, you will find YouTube there. Once you launch it for the first time, it should also be referenced in the Start Menu, or at least in the "All Programs" list option in the TF3D Programs tab. If not, you can easily COPY the youtube.lnk file from the Windows directory to Windows\Start Meny\Programs and it will show up.
The app is clean and tight, and supports the native controls of the phone (eg, the volume rocker controls volume).
I cant seem to find it I browsed the programs list and there was no YouTube Program unless its called something else.
Anyway as posted abotu still have 2 questions:
1) Ok so it says I should back up my phone completely before flashing which makes sense. But to where? I have my conacts and stuff on Microsoft MyPhone but Im pretty sure my apps and everything else isnt on there. Do i Just copy all the phones files and paste them somewhere on my computer?
2) Just incase something goes horribly wrong is there a Hard Reset on the phone that No matter what the phone will go back to factory reset. Even after flashing?
http://tilt2.blownfuze.org/
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I cant seem to find it I browsed the programs list and there was no YouTube Program unless its called something else.
Anyway as posted abotu still have 2 questions:
1) Ok so it says I should back up my phone completely before flashing which makes sense. But to where? I have my conacts and stuff on Microsoft MyPhone but Im pretty sure my apps and everything else isnt on there. Do i Just copy all the phones files and paste them somewhere on my computer?
2) Just incase something goes horribly wrong is there a Hard Reset on the phone that No matter what the phone will go back to factory reset. Even after flashing?
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1. If you have the .cabs of your apps, save them onto your PC (I have a designated folder for all my cabs, worth over 400MB!). After you flash, you're going to have to re-install them (automatically or manually, depending on if you use Sashimi, Sprite, Seven, or UC_setup [UC is only possible if it is supported by the ROM]).
2. If you flashed, your stock ROM has been overwritten, so if you hard reset, it will flash to the factory defaults that is in the flashed ROM. To go back to stock, you will need to flash back to the stock ROM, which you should find in the link posted in the above post.
Oh ok thanks for all the answers appriciate it I think I might do it this weekend if i get the time.
First off, welcome.
Next before you do ANYTHING read then re-read any and all wiki's and tutorials on the Rhodium. Learn your device inside and out FIRST before attempting to make tweaks or rom changes. If you don't read then re-read, your Christmas present can become a pretty paperweight -aka- bricking your device.
pIE and Skyfire both have Flash capabilities.
The Rhodium IS cpabale of being used as a radio, but you need to install the right cab file...again read.
That being said, a radio usually refers to the part of the phone that receives a signal so you can use it as a phone. Don't mess with THAT radio until you have read and re-read the wiki's and tutorials.
Flashing a rom means to change your operating system to a "cooked" one...one made using a windows mobile base, but specially tweaked by someone here at xda. These cooked roms cannot be flashed without first unlocking your phone. Again READ or you can brick it. Also know that flashing a cooked rom has the potential to void any warranty you have...so back up your stock rom before attempting a rom flash. It is also good to have this back up in the event that you don't like a cooked rom you have installed.
There is a great thread that lists cab files to some really good applications, which will customize your device even more. You can also create your own ringtones, and tweak the device. Again, before any major installations or registry tweaks I strongly urge you to learn all you can first, by reading the wiki's and tutorials.
I have been with xda since my wizard came out a few years ago, and I have seen far too many eager "noobs" brick their devices.
I have only had my rhodium for a month. I am still learning my device. I still have a stock rom because I am not yet comfortable with my knowledge of the Rhodium. The stock rom blows by comparison to the cooked roms, but until I am comfortable with my device, I am happy to remain stock until I learn all I need to.
Once you learn your device, you will need to join Flashers Anonymous...because like most of us here, our phones become really fun toys with pretty much unlimited possiblities...so again, welcome...and read, read, read.
Will post feedback as I play with the handset. Wasnt expecting it quite so early....
Congrats leoni, I would love if you could say about:
- The responsiveness of the screen
- How easy to type using its virtual keyboard (and compare to the iPhone if you have used before)
- And the biggest question, is the voice-to-text included in the virtual keyboard? Probably you may test it on several differents input type. Or it might need to be installed from the HTC apps/widget list?
Thanks!
I still own an iPhone, owned an iPhone 3g, currently (or until today) running a HD2 so I've got a good idea of what I like and dislike about each ;-)
Will update shortly
I've got mine too, just waiting for first charge to hurry the hell up. lol
Does it do video recording? Can't seem to find that in the specs...
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Can you confirm this problem?
youtube.com/watch?v=7rOgFX1-EwE
Got up early so as not to see the dreada drop-card, not here yet, living in the sticks though! I'm gonna be so depressed if it doesn't come
mine is here!!! just unboxing now!
Just called T-Mobile (150, then option 5, then option 4) and they confirmed mine will be delivered ... ... ... wait for it ... ... Monday ... It's going to be a loooong weekend :-(
Congratz mate, ... big question, how much is the size of the SD card included, 4Gig or 8Gig
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Aha!
When I watch the Tracey and Matt unboxing, I found the speech to text setting (see attached).
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/htc-desire-unboxing-video#more2823
It is in the setting. Any owner can say about this setting? And test it of course
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No No, read carefully thats "Text-to-speech" .. almost every phone have this feature now, ... not "Speech-to-Text"
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Congratz mate, ... big question, how much is the size of the SD card included, 4Gig or 8Gig
No No, read carefully thats "Text-to-speech" .. almost every phone have this feature now, ... not "Speech-to-Text"
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It is 4gb and pre-inserted. Phone is physically unbranded but has T-Mobile splash screen. Browser defaults to T Mobile Favourites page but is otherwise untouched. Software is pretty much generic.
PHONE IS SIM LOCKED. O2 card tested.
No Google Services setup is required upon first boot; straight to homepage.
PICTURES
Interesting that T-Mobile should call it the Bravo...
First impression of keyboard.....
I'm in love.
Goodbye HD2.
No sign of t2s though...will scrutinize now.....
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It is 4gb and pre-inserted. Phone is physically unbranded but has T-Mobile splash screen. Browser defaults to T Mobile Favourites page but is otherwise untouched. Software is pretty much generic.
PHONE IS SIM LOCKED. O2 card tested.
No Google Services setup is required upon first boot; straight to homepage.
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Interesting that T-Mobile should call it the Bravo...
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Nice .. i see that the device is the "Brownish" colour after all
if you could verify wither there is a speech-to-text feature or not, .. you have to change the keyboard to Android keyboard though (if it exists). because the HTC keyboard does not have it by default ..
The Android keyboard is either removed or hidden as the Windows one is on the HD2. Turning off Sense UI doesn't seem possible by clearing data and defaults through the applications menu....Sense just restarts automatically.
I'm pretty sure there is no Speech to Text. I've searched hard to no avail, plus when I installed SMS Popup and pressed the S2T button it said it was not available for this device.
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The Android keyboard is either removed or hidden as the Windows one is on the HD2. Turning off Sense UI doesn't seem possible by clearing data and defaults through the applications menu....Sense just restarts automatically.
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leoni1980 said:
I'm pretty sure there is no Speech to Text. I've searched hard to no avail, plus when I installed SMS Popup and pressed the S2T button it said it was not available for this device.
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ohh bummer, .. its ok though there is an app for that
thanx for the updates mate, ... keep us posted about your experience with the great Desire .... any glitches/bugs/lag-ness (hopefully not)
EDIT: and also the battery life!
Mine arrived half hr ago, it's on charge and I'm trying it out.
First impression what a dissappointment....only kidding!
It's faster then HD 2, Iphone 3GS and hero had them all and got rid of them all. Very bright and responsive, very fast keyboard definetly the best thus far. that's it for timebeing.
impressed thus far.
In settings there is an option for text to speech you have install voice data which takes you to marketplace.