Request for Mods
Would there be any chance of splitting this thread up into 3 sections
ie
Diamond rom development
+6.1 Roms
+6.5 Roms
+common rom development
I Personlaly think this would benifit everyone as not everyone Wishes to use 6.5 roms at the moment as they are not 100% stable and still in BETA
I suggest the common rom development for thing like packages/cabs file for things that work under both 6.1 and 6.5, kitchens Without any rom in the download (6.1 rom kitchens to the 6.1 thread etc)
Users please post your thoughts and maybe the mods might reorganize the thread to make it more user friendly for us thats if they don't agree with my thoughts.
I agree...
I'm up for this idea too. It's a pain trawling through so much info about the different ROM's. I think it would be great to have seperate forums for 6.1 and 6.5 - it would certainly make things a bit clearer and cleaner!
i think it would be awsome
Although the search button alleviates the need to divide and concur the threads, it is however a good idea for the times one surfs without provoking a specific topic....
If it's not too much work for the mod's, it would promote a more pleasurable surfing experience.
+1 from me
+ 1 here also.
Diamond roms are just so goddamn popular, and the chef's just keep rocking them out, so it is getting a little crowded in here!
+1 Here too.
Yes, definitely yes.
if using strictly syntax of threads than not needed.
to much themes that contains both will be lost.
and i think who can cooks etens pda ... they have really not needed differences between differences?!
what a good idea +1 from me
i'm with okokur,
as long as thread titles are properly named there shouldnt be an issue...
Well I do agree a seprate section would be good a lot of ROM's are coming out and it wud be a gud way to clean up the Diamond Forum.....
+1
@garymeg
I think a poll would be nice idea for your thread...
+1
I'd love separation 6.1 and 6.5
+1 from me too
Maybe create a poll?
Can we also have a thread for those users who keep asking the same old questions to post in pls? Wheat from the chaff and all that.
+1 here I was thinking the same thing
please remember
now 6.5 is here....all the 6.1 threads will drop down of the radar soon.
most will move onto 6.5.....so i its worth doing...IMO
all the chefs will move on and up....and old threads will drop down and off.
this is whats happened on all other threads and phones.
just let time take it course.
thank you
Great..!!
It will bring together people with similar interests.
So this will make it easier to develop n share things with more ease.
XDA ROCKS..!!
In my opinion the best thing to do would be to create a universal naming convention for ROM releases eg:
[ROM][Languages][Win *.*][UC][Title]
or something along those lines.
I couldn't find a post on this topic. so thought of starting a new thread. i apologise if its wrong.
does anyone know something about this
well you can run Wing Linux...
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/wing-linux/wiki
yes i did. but this seems better option.
You can also emulate other OSes as Mac, DOS...
yea i'm pretty interested in this too i saw the article http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...-for-dual-os-virtualization-on-mobile-phones/
i noticed one of the users comments about what's the point
i guess he hasn't used a cooked rom on xda i could see a lot of benefits to this
being able to try new roms before you install it on your own phone
trying out different os's (andriod, badu, webos, iphone os, and more) all on one device
i think it would be benefical to the community probably make cooking roms a lot faster and easier
Keland44 said:
yea i'm pretty interested in this too i saw the article http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...-for-dual-os-virtualization-on-mobile-phones/
i noticed one of the users comments about what's the point
i guess he hasn't used a cooked rom on xda i could see a lot of benefits to this
being able to try new roms before you install it on your own phone
trying out different os's (andriod, badu, webos, iphone os, and more) all on one device
i think it would be benefical to the community probably make cooking roms a lot faster and easier
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i agree with u.
Hey everyone. I am a first time poster and a bit of a WinMo noob (I stick to Android and iPhone for my development). I have been using my old Dash with the 3VO rom ever since my G1 broke, but I had a question.
I like the 3VO rom, but I would really like to try something a bit more minimalist, closer to a vanilla 6.5 rom. I basically just need the HTC tethering utility. Is there a rom out there that would meet my needs? I did a lot of searching and found nothing.
P.S. Is there a place I could go to learn the basics of WinMo manipulation? I would like to try my hand at putting together a rom.
lkarmaz2 said:
Hey everyone. I am a first time poster and a bit of a WinMo noob (I stick to Android and iPhone for my development). I have been using my old Dash with the 3VO rom ever since my G1 broke, but I had a question.
I like the 3VO rom, but I would really like to try something a bit more minimalist, closer to a vanilla 6.5 rom. I basically just need the HTC tethering utility. Is there a rom out there that would meet my needs? I did a lot of searching and found nothing.
P.S. Is there a place I could go to learn the basics of WinMo manipulation? I would like to try my hand at putting together a rom.
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Why don´t you give AlekSS´s Rom a try? It´s like a Vanilla version of WM6.5.
About your need for manipulation, try to contact the chefs: AlekSS, NRGZ28, Ookba, Rickywatt (I think he is no longer an active excalibur chef), Stylez. They are not rockstars and very accessible. PM them.
Also, take a look @ the Development and Hacking forum. You can find valuable info there.
Regards
I'm looking to flash a custom ROM for my friends HTC Tilt2, this is my first time. So i'm looking for the easiest one I suppose.
Also I'm looking for one that makes the User Interface smoother and runs better, he hates the 6.5 Professional it has on it...
I would like to put Android on it, but it looks like that ones not fully cooked yet.
So i guess the latest winmo version with some Bakers tweaks is what I'm searching for.
I just see so many and I really don't know all the differences.
thanks
As stated million time before, there is no such perfect ROM.
What is best for me could not be for you
Test them all and decide for yourself, then let us know your conclusions
Said that, enter to ROM section and have a deep read on the most popular ROM threads.
Good luck and enjoy!
I would suggest that the Desire forum be combined with the Nexus One and called Bravo. They are the same device with a couple small variations. Other devices (Universal comes to mind) had hardware variants but were not broken out into 2 sub forums.
-Mc
It's a different phone though, it has Sense UI and more Ram.
It's like the G1 and HTC Magic being the same apart from the Magic having no keyboard... they still have different forums.
Sense UI is a software front end (and ALL variants have different software). And the Universal also has different versions, some with double the RAM of others. It is the same device, same platform, same hardware. Since you can install the Nexus One ROM on the Desire with NO porting, it's the same device. They also have identical hardware specs with the exception of a little more RAM to accommodate Sense and the optical joystick.
The Magic and G1 were completely different in the sense that one had a keyboard and one did not. If the Desire had a physical keyboard, I'd agree with you.
This will do nothing but segment development and resources.
But it is different hardware, considering the 64mb more ram and the missing second mic and the hard buttons instead of soft touch buttons and the optical mouse.
And the porting, i think there was some kind of changes, or why else is there already alpha version 7 when not cause of the bugs?
Is this enough different hardware to give it its own forum?
Also i´m quite sure, that rooting might be kind of harder than on the nexus, or does anybody know something about it yet?
so should the developer versions of Google phones get their own forum? HTC has slightly changed devices throughout it's history but we've never given them their own subforum.
e.g.
The HTC Kaiser has a front facing camera. AT&T's does not. Did the Tilt get it's own forum?
The original Universal had 64MB of RAM. The updated T-Mobile version has 128. Did it get it's own forum?
The HTC 620, 621, and 622 had differences, one didn't have WiFi, the others did.
The HTC Wizard is different enough between some versions that if you flash a ROM from one on to the other, it will kill it.
Some devices have Sense, some do not. Should they get their own forums? And what happens if the ones that didn't suddenly get SenseUI in an update. Do they lose their own forums?
Look, I don't own XDA and those that do can certainly do what they want. But I've gone through the FCC documents and looked at the ROMimages between the two. They are the same device with differences exactly like the examples I used above (and there are many more). Segmenting the two only hampers development efforts.
-Mc
McHale said:
The HTC 620, 621, and 622 had differences, one didn't have WiFi, the others did.
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Not only that, but the S640. Telus only device, different chasis then those, CDMA, but some people were saying it should be lumped in with the other 6XX line.
I don't know about you but the HTC Sapphire Forums is littered between 32A and 32B ROMs.
Taknarosh said:
I don't know about you but the HTC Sapphire Forums is littered between 32A and 32B ROMs.
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Agreed... N1/Desire should be kept seperate!
Especially since they probaly do not share hboots and radios... So keeping the forums seperate minimizes risks of people flashing wrong stuff (as was seen on 32A/B quite often)
Epedemic said:
Agreed... N1/Desire should be kept seperate!
Especially since they probaly do not share hboots and radios... So keeping the forums seperate minimizes risks of people flashing wrong stuff (as was seen on 32A/B quite often)
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They DO share hboots and radios. They are the same phone. That's my point. Next, we'll start new sub forums for different case colors or carriers or logos or...
If they share radio/hboot they can flash the same ROMs without porting? If that is so, they should have the same section in my opinion.
The partition layouts are different on the devices. So no...you cant just take a rom from one and have it work straight away.
People have managed to get Desire Roms running on the n1, but they had to move system data to the data partition to do so.
The Desire is also unlikley to be rootable via unlocking the bootloader. If we put both devices in one section it would just confuse the nooblets.
SGTDavePwnage said:
If we put both devices in one section it would just confuse the nooblets.
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Man if we used THAT as a compass around here, we'd be better off closing the site entirely. You can confuse them no matter what you do. Again, look at the Universal threads. Different RAM sizes but both versions lived happily ever after in the same forum. This site was NEVER intended for newbs. It shouldn't. If it did, most of us would leave.
How much do you guys wanna bet that many ROM's will be made in Nexus1 and Desire flavors. How many LITE ROMS have you seen on XDA? A lite ROM will work on either device without ANY porting or special mods. Why not have them in the same thread/forum?
I think if their roms are cross compatible, why not have the development sections mergered? They could have separate sections but once some1 clicks on development for N1 or Desire they are lead to the same page.
yes this could be the best as i see it. there are differences, radio buttons etc,,, there might be other differences for general question etc. but if the two of them have the same structure for roms then maedhros suggested the best, why not having them into one development section!
if any1 can proove for me that they share the exact same spl, radio and partition layout then im on it! as it could be the last extra rams that have been used for the /system partition else i think it is like mixing up da hero and sapphire as they are close, but biggest difference is software based
I agree that If the 2 are proved to be identical in development terms upon the desires release, then the forums could be merged, with perhaps a couple of stickies at the top explaining what you need to do to root the phone before you can use the roms. However this should not be done until this proven conclusively on a released phone.
IF roms that can be used on both devices using the same unlocking techniques become a reality, i will take this suggestion up with administration.
(But that won't be soon)
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Man if we used THAT as a compass around here, we'd be better off closing the site entirely. You can confuse them no matter what you do. Again, look at the Universal threads. Different RAM sizes but both versions lived happily ever after in the same forum. This site was NEVER intended for newbs. It shouldn't. If it did, most of us would leave.
How much do you guys wanna bet that many ROM's will be made in Nexus1 and Desire flavors. How many LITE ROMS have you seen on XDA? A lite ROM will work on either device without ANY porting or special mods. Why not have them in the same thread/forum?
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This is an absolute appalling comment. Condescending and unhelpful. Everyone has to start at some point and a vast silent majority of people visit the site to learn and root... Unless one can prove that you cannot harm one of the devices by using a ROM for the other, the threads should be separated, even if it cost a few duplicates...
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This is an absolute appalling comment. Condescending and unhelpful. Everyone has to start at some point and a vast silent majority of people visit the site to learn and root... Unless one can prove that you cannot harm one of the devices by using a ROM for the other, the threads should be separated, even if it cost a few duplicates...
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You either took it wrong or are being a troll. XDA is a developers and hackers forum. We are all newbs at some point but this forum isn't designed for the newb. It's designed for the hacker/developer. I'm not ripping on newbs for being newbs. Hell, I'm a newb again as I just got my AT&T Nexus One yesterday - my first Android phone. But I'm reading and searching and won't have a reason to ask a question for quite some time. All of the information is already here on XDA. Newbs are welcome but we expect them to SEARCH and READ before asking a lot of questions. Some do, some don't. But if we dumbed down the forum, it would ruin it. There'd be so much crap to wade through and so many duplicate threads it'd be too time consuming to do so. THAT was my point.
Maybe we should have separate Desire forums for the silver version and a separate forum for the charcoal version. That should help, right? Because newbs who don't read are going to ask over and over if the ROM being discussed will work on their particular color of Desire. And that won't make anything confusing, right? Some ROMS posted in one forum and some posted in the other (just like the Desire vs. Nexus One). People will continually ask if the ROM will work on their device because it was in a different forum.
And FYI, you can harm the device just as easy using the correct ROM on the same device, or by running a simple command, or... If they read everything before they start, they will have no problems. If they don't read, well, we can't hold their hands.
This forum is catered to experienced hackers. We will help newbs through every part of every process, but this is still a forum for experienced hackers. If you don't like that, find a place that spoon feeds or does things for you. And if this place ever turns into a forum that spoon feeds and everyone asks to do things for them, most of us will surely leave. Then who will help them?
the question is why not?
Why is it important to you to keep them in one section? are you thinking about server space utilizing ?
I mean what is the harm of making them in separate sections (what is the harm to you)?