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Howdy all... This is a Great Forum, I have really enjoyed it, and I thank all who have contributed their hard work making ROMs for HTC's.
I am not a Programmer, Just a Physician.... so I have a question.
I like so many others have flashed numerous ROMS to my 8525 searching for a stable, fast, dependable operating system for my phone.
Now that I have flashed so many ROM's, I think my phone is really confused. With each new ROM, it starts out fine, then the phone turns schizophrenic.... Things flash on and off and I can not control them. Sometimes the screen just locks up and even with a hard rebooting and pulling the battery... nothing cures it.
My question.... Is there a way to purge the system completely, start fresh? Like formating a hard drive to start fresh? I realiize the HTC doesnt have a hard drive, so that is out of the question. But is there a way to do the same so that the next ROM I flash will be somewhat stable?
Any help will be most appreciated.
Thanks to all Developers that are the Doctors to HTC's the same way that Physicians are to humans.
Doc
drcharliedavis said:
Howdy all... This is a Great Forum, I have really enjoyed it, and I thank all who have contributed their hard work making ROMs for HTC's.
I am not a Programmer, Just a Physician.... so I have a question.
I like so many others have flashed numerous ROMS to my 8525 searching for a stable, fast, dependable operating system for my phone.
Now that I have flashed so many ROM's, I think my phone is really confused. With each new ROM, it starts out fine, then the phone turns schizophrenic.... Things flash on and off and I can not control them. Sometimes the screen just locks up and even with a hard rebooting and pulling the battery... nothing cures it.
My question.... Is there a way to purge the system completely, start fresh? Like formating a hard drive to start fresh? I realiize the HTC doesnt have a hard drive, so that is out of the question. But is there a way to do the same so that the next ROM I flash will be somewhat stable?
Any help will be most appreciated.
Thanks to all Developers that are the Doctors to HTC's the same way that Physicians are to humans.
Doc
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Well if it gets too confused make sure you get a shipped ROM handy at hand and don't forget to follow the doctor's orders.
Thanks
I would like to thank you for your quick response. I have downloaded the ATT ROM and the correct Radio as well as the instructions.
I will begin lifesaving techniques to my HTC and post the results.
Thanks Again, You are the Greatest!
Doc
Follow Up
Hi Zocster and fellow forum members,
Well I followed your instructions to the letter, only to discover that some of the tools do not work on a laptop that has Vista. So after fighting with that all day, I just let it rest a while and will tackle it again tomorrow.
Oh one question... what is the thing in the upper right corner of the phone, it has 3 diagonal liines and a triangle, when it opens it shows what programs are running. Is there a way to turn that option off? Also what can cause the touch screen to work some times and not work at other times? It is really frustratiing..
Any advise will be most appreciated.
Thanks
Doc
firstly to the point of saying you have problems flashing in vista, download sp1 install it and all other updates. Then download the latest version of WMDC(windows mobile device center) and you shouldnt have any problems, i have vista and have no trouble whatsoever flashing in vista.
The thing with the the 3 diagona lines and triangle that you mention is a task manager to kill programs that are running to allow you to free memory on the phone and allow it to run faster. Depending on what rom you flashed it will either be in add /remove programs or hard coded into the rom. If its in add/remove it will be call htc task manager just remove it. If its cooked into the rom the only way of removing it is to flash another rom. I cant see that being part of your problem though.
The touch screen problem might not be a screen problem per sa, your device maybe just running slow and the phone freezes temporarily to allow to finish what it is doing? have you tried or even realised what the page pool size is of the roms you are flashing? try flashing one with a 8mb page pool and see if that runs better. There is a tool to change page pool size floating about on here
I would though flash a stock(operator) rom first though then flash another rom. Try pda corners latest rom thats pretty fast, i am not saying its the best ,but it is quick and i like it
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Is there a way to turn that option off?
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If its cooked into the rom the only way of removing it is to flash another rom.
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well doc, as you want to turn this option off, the program is usually called "Task Manager" or "HTC Task Manager" and you can find it in "Settings -> [Tab]System ->Task Manager " and you can switch it off by going to the [Tab]Button and to un-tick the option "Enable Quick menu on Today screen".
another way to go to its settings is by clicking on it and then clicking on the "wrench" symbol.
concerning Vista issues, I never had a problem with it as i was using Vista before publishing SP1 and I did the SuperCID, HardSPL and the first upgrades under Vista... anyways, on Hermes wiki pages you can check solution#24 of Hermes Upgrade FAQ
good luck
i have a custom rom with a 3.42 radio and wm 6.1
if i upgrade my phone to windows mobile 6.5 will i still have my custom rom or would it be all new just like when you flash a new rom?
jljohnson919 said:
i have a custom rom with a 3.42 radio and wm 6.1
if i upgrade my phone to windows mobile 6.5 will i still have my custom rom or would it be all new just like when you flash a new rom?
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The only way you would be able to upgrade to WinMO 6.5 would be to flash the phone just like when you flash a custom ROM now
WinMO 6.5 is not an installable app/upgrade like upgrading an application on your phone its the operating system itself
Right now and there are very few ROMS out there for WinMO 6.5 and none for the Vogue at all (Im assuming you have a Vogue as this is where you posted) soon there will be one as there are people working on it currently but what is there is EXTREMELY buggy and almost non-functional for the fact its on a phone and a phone should be able to be used after all LOL
Keep with the Custom ROMS for now and wait, the desire for it has been spoken and the Chefs are a cookin LOL
Detroit Doug
NFSFan has confirmed that those WM 6.5 ROMS are FAKE. Even if they were real, there would be no point of using them...
The builds are fake indeed. However they do contain a few components of 6.5. None which are worth upgrading for.
NFSFAN said:
The builds are fake indeed. However they do contain a few components of 6.5. None which are worth upgrading for.
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Really? What components do they have? Anything from a new today screen or Internet Explorer (like rumored)?
Kinetic scroll (give up TouchFLO and Manila2D), new IE build that supports kinetic scroll. The today screens being posted are fake. They are actually from a smartphone, called HTC Juno. Some asian dude took it out of the Juno, resized the images, and re-arranged the tabs to make it look like the new today screen.
flashing on Vouge
I know this may sound tedious but i have no idea on how to flash any ROM onto my Vouge. Can someone please help. I would love to try out several ROMs and see which one would work best for me.
Thanks in advance
Hey, here is one really good one
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Basically here are the steps
Download the 2.31 unlocker
Download the ROM you want to use (my personal preference is this one for a TF2D style or this one for a WinMO 6.5 style interface that has TF2D included to switch back and for - both very stable, fast and clean and the thread is very active for help (especially if your on Verizon or Bell which can have issues)
from there, use WinRAR to extract each file into separate folders
then Put your phone in bootloader mode (press and hold power+camera+stylus in reset until 3-color screen comes up)
At this point at the bottom of the screen it will say Serial, plug it into the USB cable or cradle and it should change to USB
Start the exe in the 2.31 and follow the directions (you may get some errors about sleep4.exe just click on OK as it keeps occuring its a XP/Windows7 64 bit issue if that is what your using)
At the point where it tell you to disconect, unplug the phone from the USB cable and wait (count to 10 or something) then plug it back in, it should have went from USB to SERIAL and now back to USB at that point go ahead and hit any key on your PC and it should continue along
once complete, reboot, allow it to do its thing then reboot and go back into bootloader again during reboot you should see coke 2.31 in the upper left if so your ready to go
plug it into your USB/Cradle again and then go into the ROM folder you extracted the ROM into
Once the screen on your phone says USB again go to the folder and double click on the RomUpdateUtility.exe file and follow the directions again, it may take some time so be paitent
once the phone flashes and reboots, let it run and do its thing to the and reboot itself then (and here is an important step for stability) once it starts up do a hard reset (red+green+stylus in reset hole) hit the enter button (center of D-Pad) it will reflash the phone and then red key (send) when prompted
then go thought the setup again, this time you can actually set things up as your keeping them this time and once things are done and your at the start screen on your phone power off (not reset) the phone and then start it up again - seems doing it this way takes care of alot of little issues that will come up before they can happen
Depending on your carrier be sure to have one of the DCD Carrier Cabs as well especially for the 6.5 ROM as it is a generic ROM and some have reported needing to run the DCD Carrier Cab for the service they use to get on the internet and use GPS and the like
Detroit Doug
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Everything is working smoothly and better than I thought it would have (i flashed the 6.5 ROM). Thanks to you Detroit Doug or I don't think I would have been able to do it without your instructions. I however do have one more question....i'm having issues syncing the device with my PC now. Any idea on what that could be???
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I've done several resets but to no avail am i able to connect via active sync???
OK maybe i lied about everything working properly and wonderful....so on top of not being able to connect to my PC via activesync I also am not able to connect to the internet on my device, i've downloaded and installed the NFSFAN Sprint GPS Registry but still its a no go... Did i do something wrong completely????? still
I fixed the internet problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
....somehow magically i'm now able to connect via activesync. I guess the device just needed time to adjust. Thanks for the help, and i do apologize for the numerous newbie questions.
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....somehow magically i'm now able to connect via activesync. I guess the device just needed time to adjust. Thanks for the help, and i do apologize for the numerous newbie questions.
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ok so i didnt notice this thread. so whats your secret? howd you get it to work?
mbaseball, I just replied to your thread.
MMS
I flashed the rom perfectly and im lovin every thing bout it but one thing, i cant send or recieve picture mail. Is there a way 2 fix that or sumthin. That takes alot of funny away from the rom. help me please. does there happen to be a 6.5 rom wit picture mail?
Best Windows Mobile 6.5 upgrade for Vogue (Bell)?
hi
I 've been reading this thread, and am just wondering whats' the best download so far for upgrading to Windows Mobile 6.5, for HTC Touch - I think this is the vogue...for Bell Mobility?
If you could please provide a download link.
Thank you all for your help
Thank you
Karim
kchaggani said:
hi
I 've been reading this thread, and am just wondering whats' the best download so far for upgrading to Windows Mobile 6.5, for HTC Touch - I think this is the vogue...for Bell Mobility?
If you could please provide a download link.
Thank you all for your help
Thank you
Karim
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The best is NFSFAN's Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM. You can find it on another thread in this forum right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432487
Don’t even bother with anything else. I am running this. It is fast, stable and very close to the stock WM 6.5 (I have downloaded the device emulator image from Microsoft’s website for software development purposes). The extras that are in there are useful.
The Fish
Hi i was wondering if there was anyone out there who was kind enough to explain in detail how to install this Rom because by the looks of the pictures and the reviews, it is a great Rom. OH and if there is an answer to this already, please direct me to it because i have searched for hours and cannot find anything.
Thanks in advance
How far is your knowledge when it comes to custom ROMs? Do you have your phone unlocked?
If your phone isn't unlocked, go here:http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370
I could use a little help to. My phone is unlocked and I have flashed another rom before but when I download the rom file I can't do anything with it. I seem to remember using another program to handle the rom file before flashing but I have looked and looked and have come up empty handed. Someone pointing in the right direction would be great.
Basically I am stuck between getting the file on the computer and starting to flash. I can get my phone to the color screen and all.
Terms you should know before-hand, haha:
-The color RGB color screen is called the Bootloader mode (you get to it by holding the power button + camera button, and sticking you stylus in the slot at the bottom of you phone to reset.)
-Hard-reseting: Flashing the phone to default state of the flashed ROM. (Hold talk key + end call key, and sticking you stylus in the slot at the bottom of you phone to reset.)
-Soft-reseting: Simply restarting your phone. (Sticking you stylus in the slot at the bottom of you phone to reset.)
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0. Unlock Phone. (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370)
1. Go in to Boot-loader mode. (Text towards the bottom of the screen
should read "Serial" if you phone isn't connected to the PC.)
2. Connect phone to PC. ("Serial" text should change to "USB")
3. Extract the files from .rar file you download. (Use Winrar.)
4. Run ROMUpdateUtility.exe and follow the on screen instructions.
- Your phone will start showing a progress bar when the flashing starts.
- Once done, the phone will restart. (Should reset and windows should boot, but still do step 5.)
5. Hard-reset the phone.
6. Dance in place.
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*pants* Hope that helps!
Stickfigure, thanks a bunch for your summary of the ROM loading process! My Sprint Touch has been giving me lots of problems (freezing on incoming calls, data connection stops working randomly, phone not wanting to get out of roam and back into EV mode, and many many more). Needless to say, it is frustrating and I want to throw it at a wall. I'm sure my reset button is going to fail since I've poked it so many times.
Anyways, I've been wanting to install a custom ROM and finally have the chance during my spring break from classes, but I wasn't quite sure how to do it. Your post definitely helps.
One more question...is the process basically the same if I want to install a different custom ROM? If you know of any other tutorial or noob info pages that might help me I'd appreciate it too.
Thanks again!
Stickfigure, thanks for the instructions. Winrar was the piece that I was missing. Once I installed that I had the new rom installed the the phone was working fine in a bout 15 minutes.
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Stickfigure, thanks a bunch for your summary of the ROM loading process! My Sprint Touch has been giving me lots of problems (freezing on incoming calls, data connection stops working randomly, phone not wanting to get out of roam and back into EV mode, and many many more). Needless to say, it is frustrating and I want to throw it at a wall. I'm sure my reset button is going to fail since I've poked it so many times.
Anyways, I've been wanting to install a custom ROM and finally have the chance during my spring break from classes, but I wasn't quite sure how to do it. Your post definitely helps.
One more question...is the process basically the same if I want to install a different custom ROM? If you know of any other tutorial or noob info pages that might help me I'd appreciate it too.
Thanks again!
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There are some great tutorials out there for beginners, one of the best of which is Dharvey's "UPDATED- CONSOLIDATED Rev A./GPS TUTORIAL" found on PPCGeeks; it is no longer available for some reason, but you may be able to find a repost somewhere.
Thanx
Thankx every one who contributed to this thread because it really helped.
i dont want to be a pain in the ass can someone link me a tutorial on how to flash roms im very intrested into flashing to a 6.5 rom will read up myself just cant find a stright up tutorial tyia guys btw have a sprint htc touch
ohthebaby said:
i dont want to be a pain in the ass can someone link me a tutorial on how to flash roms im very intrested into flashing to a 6.5 rom will read up myself just cant find a stright up tutorial tyia guys btw have a sprint htc touch
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OK, as I have a Sprint Touch as well... Here goes...
First go HERE and READ the hell outta it until you have it step by step (BTW use the 2.31 unlocker regardless about the GPS thing)
OK, now that youve read that (happy dance time)
Download the 2.31 Unlocker and a WinMO 6.5 ROM personally I suggest this ONE as it is one I use
And make sure to download the DCD Sprint Carrier cab and copy it to your SD card as you may need this after the flashing is done (will get back to this tasty morsel later)
OK, now you have an Unlocker and a ROM - now what, hmmmm
Use WinRAR and extract both the files into separate folders
Press and hold the Power button+Camera Button and Stylus in the reset hole until the 3 color screen comes up and it says serial, now plug in your cable and it should change to USB
can you taste the rainbow and it is over the land of USB?? great, now go into the Unlocker folder you created and doubleclick on the RomUpdateUtility.exe (going to be called RUU.exe from this point on)
Follow the steps on the desktop monitor (you might get some errors about sleep4.exe - dont worry about it, just keep hitting enter and it will go away after the 4th or so time
At some point the program is going to tell you to disconnect the phone, sounds scarey doesnt it, losing the connection and all - dont be, be a brave little soldier and disconnect it and count to 10, cant do that, get some help in getting there, its really that important LOL once you (or your friend) gets to 10 plug it back in, does it say USB again? good!! happy dance AFTER you hit a key on the keyboard per the on screen directions
its going to eventually reboot, let it and it will be unlocked, let it start up and do its thing, when its done - go ahead and go back into bootloader mode again (remember power+camera+stylus twister move you did earlier, its back to that again) with the cable disconnected and it had better say SERIAL again.. now go ahead and plug in the cable and it should change to USB
Now go into the ROM folder and double click the RUU.exe here ... and follow the directions that come up on the screen...
Once its done and the phone reboots, wait... wait some more.. still keep waiting.. no not yet ... stop touching it.. it wont help pacing.. just be patient... oh look an Orange screen, ok here comes some fun
Follow the drections to go through the setup, dont worry about it being to accurate and all as it is about to be erased anyway... let the autorun happen once windows starts and it will reboot on its own again - yes it really IS a smartphone isnt it LOL
OK, as it is booting up again when there is a black screen - press and hold the red button+green button+stylus in reset hole (known as a Hard reset) until the screen turns gray - follow the directions again (save you some time "press the Enter key" thats the big silver button in the center of the buttons LOL) and when the progress bar moves all the way to the right, press the end key (the green one)
Again, it will restart (told you it was smart) and now go ahead and do the setup and customizations and do them right this time as your hanging onto them this time (sounds weird but if you dont hard reset after flashing it flying monkeys will swoop in and take your phone and your little dog toto too)
OK, now remember that DCD Sprint Carrier Cab, you do, fantastic .. so to the storage card where you copied it to - you didnt forget that step did you??? good I knew my faith in you would pay off, tap on it and run it - it will install all the Sprint goodies to make your life easy, and your sex life better and even improve that certain area of a .. wait sorry wrong channel again.... just go ahead and tap it, run it and reboot
now you have a Sprint 6.5 Custom ROM
Enjoy
Detroit Doug
dude f****** grt lol wow thats a tutorial and a half ty ima try it now
Detroit_Doug,
In NFS Fan's v 6.5 ROM, which GPS registry cab should I use for MetroPCS?
Also, is it true that MMS is not supported on this ROM version?
Will this update my radio to the latest version (Radio version 3.42.30) so that GPS is enabled? I was having GPS issues on the latest Sprint stock ROM after flashing to Metro.
awesome, thank you! heheh, flying monkeys.
anithinks said:
Detroit_Doug,
In NFS Fan's v 6.5 ROM, which GPS registry cab should I use for MetroPCS?
Also, is it true that MMS is not supported on this ROM version?
Will this update my radio to the latest version (Radio version 3.42.30) so that GPS is enabled? I was having GPS issues on the latest Sprint stock ROM after flashing to Metro.
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Yes MMS IS supported on the ROM, but per some steps and depending on your Provider, well that can be the tricky part as they can be a PITA at times
As far as MetroPCS - I really dont know, I personally go to the thread of MFSFANs ROM and do a search through it for MetroPCS (there are a few of you trying to take over the world - I aint skeered though) but there is some info there, I just cant remember every carrier and every issues for every phone - I have my own plans on taking over the world as well you know (are ya skeered???) come on pinky, time to put my plan into action
Detroit Doug
EDIT: Here is the link for MetroPCS - its for the Titan, but ask the person that started the thread - the cab shouldnt matter as it is provisioning data and the like - again ask the posted on the thread, I dont know anything about it - simple search found this as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3609082#post3609082
could you find the one for USCC & what does the cab do?
Viper Matrix Wireless said:
could you find the one for USCC & what does the cab do?
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If your referring to "what does a carrier cab do" it installs various settings and progs and provisioning data to help you connect to your network for phone, data, internet, GPS, aGPS, etc
As far as finding it - search can be your friend - I dont even know if there is one for USCC or MetroPCS - find whatever carrier is similar/compatible and use it
Detroit Doug
EDIT - amazing a search for USCC Carrier CAB found lots of posts - 5th post through and the preview gave the link you need directly
http://sites.google.com/site/victorbush/htc-6800-1/epst-data-settings
Okay, Im new to the site as a registered user, but have been looking around in the forums and reading posts and what not, but Im having troubles finding the answers to my questions. There are soo many topics, soo many rreplies, soo many of the same questions and answers in different topics/posts. So these are my questions and Id really like someone to help me out. Im having troubles with my Touch Pro 2 for Verizon. Im currently running windows mobile 6.5.
Question 1: Do I need to downgrade to windows 6.1 to get Android to work?
Question 2: Are there specific installation instructions that I can follow for this device.
Question 3: Does the service provider matter when installing Android?
( I had a few more questions, however, I have a forgetful memory and if they come up, I will write them down and post more questions)
-- right now, it reboots itself when I get online or open an application.
-- Also it is saying that the Facebook for Android app isnt working because it wasnt signed correctly or something to that effect.
-- When it restarts, it will not let me run the dual boot (Gen Y DualBoot) and says "an error occurred on sub_main_androidexistcheck. An error occurred retrieving the registry key"
-- Every once in awhile it will pop up with a message when I try going into an application. Again, I will write down the message and get back to this post.)
-- Oh, and I installed XDAndroid just recently, its the one Im currently having issues with, but Im not sure which Android I was running before, but it was the one that would pop up with different phones and the Android dude when I would start up Android.
Please, can someone help me out with this? I would really appreciate it. Thank you to whoever replies to this post.
I don't believe it should matter between 6.1 and 6.5, haret simply kicks WinMo out of the active memory and runs Android. Install should be the same across the board for all TP2s, format your SD card, get the latest Cab from the sticky at the top of this sub-forum, and install the CAB to your SD. Most errors in Android are repaired with a format of your card.