Sleep of death with the new official ROM (Sense 2.5) - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hi,
I am experiencing sleep of death with the new HTC official ROM (3 in maybe 4 days of use....).
Here is what I have installed:
-Hard SPL
-Resco Explorer
-Resco Registry addin
-Efficasoft GPRS Traffic monitor
-LockDevice 1.6
I installed very few apps on purpose as stability is very important for me.
The top suspect so far is LockDevice 1.6, as it is the only application run in the background; I removed it yesterday and will see if it works better that way.
Am I the only one having this issue? Any other sweet way to have the phone automaticely locked?
Thank you,

uninstall lockdevice it should fix your issues. I suggest s2u2 for a locker.

Hi,
I had the same problem, seems to be a bug in the ROM. I didn't installed other apps or anything. I reverted back to the stock 6.1 rom :S
Grtz,
FeareX

I have the same issue. Thought it was just me.

How the hell can HTC release a rom with such an obvious bug. I'll try a few more days and if it keeps crashing I'll also rollback to a previous version.
Thanks for your infos

fun_key said:
How the hell can HTC release a rom with such an obvious bug. I'll try a few more days and if it keeps crashing I'll also rollback to a previous version.
Thanks for your infos
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Have you thought that HTC has NOT released this rom yet?
I don't know what's the connection between htcpedia and htc, but this rom is not downloadable from HTC's site yet, only the SEA version. So maybe these roms on htcpedia are just some kind of "beta" versions, and they're still testing/fixing them.
(Though my experiences from the past make this whole reasoning meaningless )

same here, i just flashed it 2 days ago and then restore my data with SPB Backup, now when it's sleep it never awake... i have to soft reset it. im going to perform a hard reset now.

Mine was fine before i put this rom on and now even with a different rom, it still does it. I'm going to flash a different radio and see if that helps.

I wonder if hardspl could be the problem, as far as I remember I've allready seen similar issue with a kaiser (or a touch pro) rom update and it was related to hardspl.
What version should the new SPL be?

it happened to me a couple of times, I think in my case it was the twitter auto update from sense 2.5, it hasn't happened since I disabled it

Bluetooth w/ Sleep of Death?
I am troubleshooting the SOD issue, and was wondering if anyone is / has been experiencing this problem when NOT using bluetooth (you get SOD when your bluetooth is turned off)?
In the meantime I am checking to see if auto updates set to "on" in Facebook / Twitter / or Weather could be the culprits.

I don't use bluetooth and it still happens. I do have twitter updates enabled though. I may have to disable them to see if it fixes it.

I do not use BT nor twitter, but I do have a constant sync with my exchange server

I once had the SOD with using bluetooth a while back (when paired with a rental car's BT stereo), but yesterday started getting it every time phone goes to standby (without using BT) - only soft reset/removing battery helps. I have made no changes to registry or even installed apps in the last couple of weeks so have no idea why it is happening. Continuing to search forums at the mo...
BTW: Stock 6.5 WWE ROM

Do you all have hardspl installed?

fun_key said:
Do you all have hardspl installed?
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No, I don't and I believe my stock 6.5 WWE ROM (from HTC official site a couple of months ago) has Sense 2.1, not 2.5. Like I said, I had no problems until yesterday and most of that day, it was cradled to my work PC (like it is every couple of days).

so, today I can confirm that twitter and facebook update (from contacts tab) produces the sleep of death on my rhodium (rhod100 with official sea firmware)
I had no problems for several days with auto facebook updates and twitter tab disabled. today I manually updated facebook (contacts tabs-->all contacts-->updates & events) and let the phone do it's thing. after a couple of seconds the cpu usage went up to 100% (according to battclock) and stayed there until the screen turned off (I let the phone idle on purpose) then it SOD on me, had to soft reset. I had facebook updates off for more than a week, so maybe it hangs when there are over a certain number of updates and the refresh takes longer than X amount of seconds
after that soft reset I checked the updates & events in contacts, and the update seems to be succesful, apart from the sleep-of-death
then I enabled the twitter tab, again, after several days of having it disabled, hit refresh and watched the cpu usage go to 100%, after the screen went off it was SOD again, just like with facebook.
these tests were done over my data plan, wifi and bluetooth disabled and direct push enabled (gmail)
for now I check twitter via web with opera mini and post to twitter with pocketwit-quickpost, I don't use facebook on my phone and just have it enabled to sync my contact pictures when I do a hard reset. hopefully there will be a hot fix or a rom update that fixes this.

Just a heads up: The new official Sense 2.5 ROM is NOT official at all. Just got that confirmed from HTC themselves after sending them a bug report. They are still working on it.
So yeah, expect a few bugs.
That being said, I also use LockDevice 1.6 and I don't have any sleeps of death. Other than that I am using what you are using except for Hard SPL - no idea what that is even :>
EDIT: I have no problems with Facebook updating either. If you have, I recommend you use RAMclean every now and then to keep it below 75% or so. Mine is around there and working ok.

mhurg said:
Just a heads up: The new official Sense 2.5 ROM is NOT official at all. Just got that confirmed from HTC themselves after sending them a bug report. They are still working on it.
So yeah, expect a few bugs.
That being said, I also use LockDevice 1.6 and I don't have any sleeps of death. Other than that I am using what you are using except for Hard SPL - no idea what that is even :>
EDIT: I have no problems with Facebook updating either. If you have, I recommend you use RAMclean every now and then to keep it below 75% or so. Mine is around there and working ok.
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so the rom in the official website for my phone, that downloads correctly after I put the serial number in the box is not official?
http://www.htc.com/sea/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=877&news_id=533
P.S: my device is the SEA version, so my serial number works fine on that page
I would write customer support, but since my device works fine without twitter and facebook updates I can live with it.

totriz said:
so the rom in the official website for my phone, that downloads correctly after I put the serial number in the box is not official?
http://www.htc.com/sea/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=877&news_id=533
P.S: my device is the SEA version, so my serial number works fine on that page
I would write customer support, but since my device works fine without twitter and facebook updates I can live with it.
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Might it be that it is still Sense 2.1, as mine is with the official WWE 6.5 ROM?
BTW my SOD solved - narrowed it down to SRS WOW HD: uninstalled and viola!

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i have upgraded to LVSW(2007/04/23) RUU_Hermes_WWE_3.30.0.1 and now work like hell

2 weeks ago i have upgraded to lvsw latest rom release and is the worst release (sorry for that m8).... manny apps doesn't work.... and even the last one before this was much better :|.... and any1 can help me how can i get back to the original orange rom... like when i buyed from the storage? thank u....
Hey, this is bull**** - can u specify which apps etc? I am using LVSW 20070423 from the first day of release and no problem...
This ROM is pretty damned good - so slow operation is probably something you've got installed.
To go back to your original orange ROM (PRESUMABLY wm5) you first need a copy of the original ROM, then follow Mrvanx's guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462
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2 weeks ago i have upgraded to lvsw latest rom release and is the worst release (sorry for that m8).... manny apps doesn't work.... and even the last one before this was much better :|.... and any1 can help me how can i get back to the original orange rom... like when i buyed from the storage? thank u....
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MaRaHoX said:
Hey, this is bull**** - can u specify which apps etc? I am using LVSW 20070423 from the first day of release and no problem...
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lol... i know is bull****... prob is when i m tryin to call ... i hear 2 sounds ... and that`s it ... and office give me this error "Program Not Recognised" .. anyway ... now i am with the previous of lvsw rom
Problem during a call I supposed in GSM part, which is indipendent on LVSW's ROM (maybe other causes - 3rd party app, bad A2DP mod etc.) - but primary try new RADIO ROM.
Office works me well - I just try it before a few secs (immediately after HR) and its ok?
I am using phone daily for hard work and no problems, you mentioned.
Some unstability was caused by wrong Page Pool, but I suppose, that it is not your case.
LVSW ROM is very good, I like it compared to others. Try installing a new radio and try a hard reset or reflash it.
Remember LVSW bundles the Radio along with his ROMs, could you please tell us your Radio version??
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Remember LVSW bundles the Radio along with his ROMs, could you please tell us your Radio version??
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@mrvanx, LVSW 20070423 is an OS-only distribution. He recommends that Hard-SPL-v7 and Radio 1.41.00.10 be installed beforehand (links provided). A deviation from his previous ROMs.
John
maddogydog said:
2 weeks ago i have upgraded to lvsw latest rom release and is the worst release (sorry for that m8).... manny apps doesn't work.... and even the last one before this was much better :|.... and any1 can help me how can i get back to the original orange rom... like when i buyed from the storage? thank u....
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What do you mean many apps doesn't work? All apps works on mine..IMO, LVSW's rom is the best. There must be something you didn't follow correctly or you installed some bull**** 3rd party apps. I am sorry if that offense you.
LSVW 423 is a great ROM - fast with all the bits I want and none of the bits I don't want, but I'm having issues with hanging on soft resets (about 10%) of the time as well as freezing and not able to resume from suspend. I have had these issues with most if not all the WM6 ROMs and can't figure it out.
Anyone else with similar issues?
Meanwhile orange have released a new WM5 AKU3.3 rom on their business site.
I've had no issues with LVSW 4/23 rom. I use the phone heavly during each day for the office and I never had experienced any issues. LVSV rom is the most stable in my opion. All apps are working as they should.
I only down graded my radio back to 1.40.30.00 cause of stability and the fact 1.41.xx.xx kept dropping my calls between 3G to Edge, not to mention weaker signal. Fact, 1.40.30.00 is I beleive the offical ATT radio release ATM (I might be wrong, something more official may be out).
Did you read the entire forum before flashing? As Johnburn mentioned, LVSW repackaged to OS only and given specific instructions to Hard-SPL-v7 and Radio before the OS only ROM due to issues on the his first post of the full package.
I think you're the only who has bad experience w/ LVSW release and you blamed it on the ROM. way to go.
khammo01 said:
LSVW 423 is a great ROM - fast with all the bits I want and none of the bits I don't want, but I'm having issues with hanging on soft resets (about 10%) of the time as well as freezing and not able to resume from suspend. I have had these issues with most if not all the WM6 ROMs and can't figure it out.
Anyone else with similar issues?
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yep exact same issue right here.
LOVE the roms, hate the fact that I keep freezing in suspend with all wm6 roms.
thought it was my phone till I flashed back to wm5, and its working perfectly again.
charbz said:
yep exact same issue right here.
LOVE the roms, hate the fact that I keep freezing in suspend with all wm6 roms.
thought it was my phone till I flashed back to wm5, and its working perfectly again.
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What do you have installed??? Also please note if installed programs are on the DEVICE or MEMORY CARD. What today items do you have??? And did you have cabs in the extended ROM??? All of these things will affect the device and could possibility cause it to lock up. Any whos I have no problems with WM6.
charbz said:
yep exact same issue right here.
LOVE the roms, hate the fact that I keep freezing in suspend with all wm6 roms.
thought it was my phone till I flashed back to wm5, and its working perfectly again.
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to fix the freezing go to:
start-> settings-> today-> items(tab)-> and set the today timeout to 12hr
stukes said:
What do you have installed??? Also please note if installed programs are on the DEVICE or MEMORY CARD. What today items do you have??? And did you have cabs in the extended ROM??? All of these things will affect the device and could possibility cause it to lock up. Any whos I have no problems with WM6.
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I always installed EVERYTHING on device memory. Nothing on storage card (even though it worked fine with Wm5 for anything other than Today apps).
I thought it was my applications so I went back to scratch. Even no apps installed and even with SD card removed, it fails to wake up from sleep if anything other than Exchange Activesync tried to use the radio while it was asleep.
Main culprits include IMAP mail sync and weather app syncing. You can verify this by setting sync interval to some ridiculously low value (every 5 minutes) and then watch a sitcom or something. It will be locked by the time it's over. (Hey, I just looked down and whaddya know, my phone is locked again).
There are some files laying around in extended ROM but They are not installed on hard reset. Are you saying they might be interfering nevertheless?
I hear rumors that LSVW 3/23 does not have this problem so I'm going to try that one last time. If I can't resolve it, I'm going back to WM5.
webpain said:
to fix the freezing go to:
start-> settings-> today-> items(tab)-> and set the today timeout to 12hr
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Hmm... seems an unlikely fix. Is this verified to work? What about just unchecking the Today timeout box altogether? I'll give it a try...
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I tried the Today timeout fix and it still locks up.
@khammo01
Good to see you have tried to isolate the problem. However you say that a fresh install also locks up. If this is true then the problem is deeper. Have you tried each Cooked ROM? I have and only by preference choose Black2.5. So far the only lock-up I have had came from a today plugin. WHich I should have put on the DEVICE instead of the CARD. At times the Active Sync appears to be sluggish but it is only right as it connects. Then all is well. Verify your download and try again.
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@khammo01
Good to see you have tried to isolate the problem. However you say that a fresh install also locks up. If this is true then the problem is deeper. Have you tried each Cooked ROM? I have and only by preference choose Black2.5. So far the only lock-up I have had came from a today plugin. WHich I should have put on the DEVICE instead of the CARD. At times the Active Sync appears to be sluggish but it is only right as it connects. Then all is well. Verify your download and try again.
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I have tried LSVW, Black 2.0, 2.5, Dutty, Custel, you name it. They all have the sleep error.
If I have IMAP or anything enabled that uses the radio when the device is asleep, I get lockups.
Basically I cannot enable anything useful. I'm going to try LSVW 3/23 (pretty much the only ROM I haven't tried) and if that doesn't work, I'm going back to WM5.

Black Shadow IV Problem

Hey guys,
First post on the forum, so I hope I don't offend/irritate with my dumbass questions,
I successfully flashed to the Black Shadow IV rom yesterday. I installed all th e helpful cab files to restore my settings to the orange standard and got the skdcert fix for the voicemail quirk. All seems (seemed) to be running smoothly but I then stumble upon a problem.
I have found that I am resetting the device more than I should due to the fact that whenever I try to make a call, 5 times out of 10 the phone just crashes, all the buttons freeze up and the touch screen doesn't respond. On the odd occassion the buttons freeze but the screen still responds butr there's no way to drop the call. It just wont have it.
I upgraded to the Black IV shadow rom, but did not upgrade the radio which was out of the box at version 1.38.00.01. Could this be the root of the problem? I am running SPL- 2.10 Olipro.
Any ideas guys, you're the experts, I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut.
Thanks in advance.
Gav
The 1.38 radio is pretty stable. However, if you are in the US, you might want to try upgrading it to the 1.40 radio which is AT&T optimized.
That ROM was released and is supported here: http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/htc-hermes/
Same happend to me too, I used Black Shadow IV for a week and now removed it, It is not stable.
My Jasjam hangs all the time and when conncting to PC.
Regards
Yeah, same. I used it for 3 days or so and crashed frequently. No additional programs installed either. BAD ROM
i've had nothing but a good experience with Shadow IV. ::shrug:: seems stable enough to me. it's never locked up on me and i've never had to reset except when i chose to to clear out the old memory once in a while.
as i mentioned in another thread, i have not installed any spb apps since they seem to have problems w/ WM6. i've had problems on a couple of different ROMs w/ the Spb apps.
could it be something that you've got installed and not the ROM itself? i had to do a little process of elimiation by installing basically one or two apps a day and seeing how it ran. things started going badly when the Spb apps were on there (Mobiel Shell, Time, Weather, Diary) so I haven't reinstalled them.
anyway, it could be something other than the ROM that is causing the instability.
regards,
mark
having multiple problems as well. cannot send text messages on cingular even after trying multiple fixes, frequent slowdowns, have had to soft reset at least once daily and also having problems with random lockups when charging. Going to reflash another rom.
having multiple problems as well. cannot send text messages on cingular even after trying multiple fixes, frequent slowdowns, have had to soft reset at least once daily and also having problems with random lockups when charging. Going to reflash another rom.
Am on Orange UK, and after running Black shadow for a while now I would rate it as the most stable ROM I have used. Admittedly I have only dabbled with some of the others, but have not felt the need to do more as am happy with what I have.
I did have an issue with SPB weather that others did not seem to have, but after romoving it, everything seems to be running fine. I soft reset every few days etc but I am happy with that.
Tis a bit strong to write BAD ROM with such certainty based on an individual experience, given that it works well for so many. Perhaps "This ROM did not work well for me" would be better.
Just a thought.
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The 1.38 radio is pretty stable. However, if you are in the US, you might want to try upgrading it to the 1.40 radio which is AT&T optimized.
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May be it is the radio rom, I have now installed radio 1.38 then Black Shadow IV and will try it for a few days and see how it works.
Also crash
Also crash and then back to Black 3.5 rom is Stable!
Still the same even with Radio 1.38, Crash when connected to PC and deep sleep in standby.
Use to have same problems while running CE-Star. Virtually permanently freezing on making/receiving calls, sending SMS and simple operations with the device.
After manualy setting chinese character set (thanks to XDA-Devs WIKI ) the ROM is extremely stable. Even trying to "destroy" the system with multiple operations (calls, internet browsing, sync, installing new soft, etc.) do not freezes it - very stable.
Suspect in your case you are using software which makes some changes to the system, consequently destabilizes the ROM
marttin said:
Use to have same problems while running CE-Star. Virtually permanently freezing on making/receiving calls, sending SMS and simple operations with the device.
After manualy setting chinese character set (thanks to XDA-Devs WIKI ) the ROM is extremely stable. Even trying to "destroy" the system with multiple operations (calls, internet browsing, sync, installing new soft, etc.) do not freezes it - very stable.
Suspect in your case you are using software which makes some changes to the system, consequently destabilizes the ROM
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Hi,i am runing Black 3.0.1 and ce-star,like ou said freezing ,and my problem is when i use CE-STAR keyboard,it is Freezing too.where i can find the setting chinese charscter set?
thanks
Been running Black Shadow for 5 days, alongwith Radio 1.43, without any problem...
I've been running Black Shadow on T-mo US w/1.43 rom and I've had no problems.
I have been running Black Shadow since it was released and no problems so far.
chg1282002 said:
Hi,i am runing Black 3.0.1 and ce-star,like ou said freezing ,and my problem is when i use CE-STAR keyboard,it is Freezing too.where i can find the setting chinese charscter set?
thanks
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Use WIKI and SEARCH funstion
You can go first to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ and click on Hermes. After that use SEARCH function with keyword "chinese". Should get the following page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweak_Language_Chinese
I am using for few days Black Shadow with 1.43 Radio, able to read Chinese Characters thanks to the described in WIKI method and no problems. Personaly I installed A4 input method as it serves me at best. I didn't change the registry manualy, but used the cab, it works perfect. Simply follow the instructions.
The only issue is that when serving internet with IE Chinese sites do not apear properly. Suppose it is needed additional fixing of the fonts in IE. Do not have time at present to explore the issue, but suppose to deal with it next week. In case you find a solution for IE please share the method on this thread-- Thanks
PS. Have tested Micrsoft Input -- simply do not works. Causes a lot of problems and destroys totaly the standard inputs
All,
I have been running this ROM for just under a week and the thing has been 100% solid - not a single problem.
I also agree with a previous statement in this thread, that to refer to the ROM as "BAD" based on a single attempt is somewhat unfair! Maybe it is this sort of thing that has forced some of the more senior Hermes developers away from this site and on to another location. Ever thought about it that way?
It is just my opinion, but we (all forum users) should do one of two things if we "chose" to use someone elses development. They are,
Acknowledge (privately or publically) the time and effort that has gone into producing something. The best way to do that is by constructive feedback even if the experience hasn't been as you expected
Say nothing if you can't make it constructive!
To place a one liner in a response with a "throw away" comment is about as useful to either the developer or the other forum users as.........well,..................no I won't go any further because it's not constructive
For the record - this version of the Black release has rectified a localised issue I was having with my WLAN that other version had not resolved.
If you chose to use it - great, join in. If not, equally great. Good luck with your chosen selection of ROM.
Rant end
marttin said:
Use WIKI and SEARCH funstion
You can go first to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ and click on Hermes. After that use SEARCH function with keyword "chinese". Should get the following page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweak_Language_Chinese
I am using for few days Black Shadow with 1.43 Radio, able to read Chinese Characters thanks to the described in WIKI method and no problems. Personaly I installed A4 input method as it serves me at best. I didn't change the registry manualy, but used the cab, it works perfect. Simply follow the instructions.
The only issue is that when serving internet with IE Chinese sites do not apear properly. Suppose it is needed additional fixing of the fonts in IE. Do not have time at present to explore the issue, but suppose to deal with it next week. In case you find a solution for IE please share the method on this thread-- Thanks
PS. Have tested Micrsoft Input -- simply do not works. Causes a lot of problems and destroys totaly the standard inputs
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WM6 ROM without "no wake up from sleep" ?

HI Guys!
I want to know if is there any WM6 rom that don't have the 'no wake up from sleep' problem. I rely a lot on my TyTN and is annoying some times to try to turn it on and realize it's hang and i missed a lot of important calls.
I tested two WM6 roms, and they got lot of issues. One got the "lost SD" problem and now I'm using Faria Superclean 3. Very good rom, but sometimes it dont wake up right. (the fix out there dosn't help)
I haven't had a SOD incident since going to my latest ROM which is based on the "official" build (CE 5.2.1437 build 17944.0.3.1). While cooking this ROM, I took great pains to leave the production power management software intact (including the "older style" battery status cpanel plugin).
I'm guessing that M$ fixed this issue and that all ROMs directly derived from the official build that haven't had the power management software modified either won't experience SOD at all or will exhibit greatly reduced SOD frequencies.
Never had that problem on vp3G 3.0
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Never had that problem on vp3G 3.0
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Same here.
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Never had that problem on vp3G 3.0
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How much time do you tested it? I got weeks without this problem and suddenly it happens twice in a day
shagratt any luck? have you found a fix?
from my understanding the problem was if you had your pop mail setting to automatically check for new mail, and it did it while the hermes was sleeping, it wouldn't wake up. when i put my settings to manual i stopped having the problem. what we need is for someone to confirm with the official wm6 rom or att wm6 rom if this problem still exist. if it doesn't then i'll think about switching from black 3.0.1. to something newer.
No issue with Dopod official ROM
Haven't had any SOD since running the official Dopod WM 6.0 since about a month ago. My ActiveSync settings are "As items arrive" always.
I did have it on a number of xda-forum builds previously on the same hardware and same microSD card ... so the official WM 6.0 seems to have fixed it.
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from my understanding the problem was if you had your pop mail setting to automatically check for new mail, and it did it while the hermes was sleeping, it wouldn't wake up. when i put my settings to manual i stopped having the problem. what we need is for someone to confirm with the official wm6 rom or att wm6 rom if this problem still exist. if it doesn't then i'll think about switching from black 3.0.1. to something newer.
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I dont use mail on the hermes
But my Weather home plugin perhaps is trying to update its data. Now I'm testing the settings to update it manually. (no hangs since I write this post)
What's annoy me is that I can be months without this and then it begin to happens frequently : o /
Since moving to the Dopod and official HTC rom I've had zero SOD's. I was getting them every hour at one point on black and on LSVW.
Neil.
SOD issues
Strangely enough, I didnt start experiencing SOD issues UNTIL I switched to the newer roms based on the "official" WM6 Rom...I had it with VP3G and eventually loaded Satin and the problems continued. Most of my problems seemed to be centered around shortcuts I had on my today screen for programs loaded on my sd card. After "waking" and trying to run some of the shortcuts it would take several tries or it would cause lockups or SODs. Boz pointed me to the following patch which has seemed to fix all the sd card shortcuts problems as well as the SODs I was experiencing. The only thing that seems to still cause SODs for me is if I am trying to download a large file directly to the sd card via the internet and the phone goes into standby it will still cause the SOD. But realistically I wouldnt be downloading large files like that very often, and if I have to I can just connect my usb charger or ac charger to make sure it doesnt go into standby.
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/local_links.php?action=jump&id=16&catid=6
I use 3g's WM6 and never had the SOD until I installed a podcast collector (smart-rss). Then, every morning when I woke up I had to play the game to get the phone working. Finally found it was easier to just hard reset and reload from the nightly backup that seems to still work. About a week ago I uninstalled SmartRSS and it hasn't had the SOD since. Certinly seems like the common thread here is for the phone to be doing data transferes while it is asleep.
Had a SOD once with Schaps 3.57a and it turned out that it was a
corrupted cemail.vol file which caused the trouble. After SR it started
first fine and than hung everytime when accessed the Messagin file
cemail.vol. After I created a new one on storage card and pointed
to it in registry and SR, deleted the old corrupted one the problem
did never occur since today. Puuuhhh...
I am absolutely sure that all SODs come from any corrupted databases
or incompatible programs which cause wakeup issues. The trick is to
find out what application is the culprit
Olioaglio

OK had a guts full

I have always thought HTC had excellent phone - so I went out and brought the touch pro 2 to to replace my TyTn ii.
boy what a mistake - sorry but I'm really sick of the problems (owned for less than 1 day!!!), first Telstra had the phone so full of crud that it ran like a 3 legged dog, then could not get the darn thing to sync with exchange server until I found a post recommending the change of the setting under one of the data options, this only took 2 hours of troubleshooting (still can't get it to sync when plugged in has to flash a cab for the hardspl to work) - no problem flashed new Rom from 6.1 to 6.5 using the energy rom - which I have to admit fixed all the issues, now fast looks good - all happy.
But no - bloody GPS won't work so after a further 5 hours of stuffing round now 1am have given up. Can't find location settings for the quick GPS (have bloody scoured this forum and google) installed Tom tom 7.19, 7.10 (4 versions so far) - map works just no bloody GPS, google maps won't work - yep no bloody GPS. remove faulty blue-tooth drivers - hard booted, soft booted, even thrown the stupid thing across the room - yep that did not help either.
Never had these issues with the TyTn II - how the heck can a new state of the art phone be just as useless as this.
rant over - off to bed.
@grungysquash. A pity really, but your so far in the minority that after reading all the threads that you said you read I find it hard to believe you don't notice all the raves about this device. If it were me that'd make me think maybe there's something I'm missing. I had a tytn 2 also and wow, that does take me back. Like my tp2 way,way better.
So hearing how many kudos the tp2 gets maybe you should give it a better go.
Now you might think this a stupid question , but I gotta ask as you'd be amazed how many don't know this: Re the gps, Two things are a must to do before it will work properly. Under your network settings the box for being able to see the device location has to be checked. It is usually unchecked by default. Also enable quick gps. Try google maps to test as it is the easiest. The first sat. lock can take a min. I can use my gps with google maps inside most buildings and it is very fast.
Don't be impatient and take it easy and you'll find the answers to your issues, then you'll find your issues wern't much of an issue after all.
Give it a fair shot tho. Good Luck.
P.S. have you checked out ppcgeeks? I don't recall seeing anyone with your handle commenting over there. Maybe I missed it, but that is the place for fantastic tp2 info. Not that xda isn't good.
grungysquash said:
I have always thought HTC had excellent phone - so I went out and brought the touch pro 2 to to replace my TyTn ii.
boy what a mistake - sorry but I'm really sick of the problems (owned for less than 1 day!!!), first Telstra had the phone so full of crud that it ran like a 3 legged dog, then could not get the darn thing to sync with exchange server until I found a post recommending the change of the setting under one of the data options, this only took 2 hours of troubleshooting (still can't get it to sync when plugged in has to flash a cab for the hardspl to work) - no problem flashed new Rom from 6.1 to 6.5 using the energy rom - which I have to admit fixed all the issues, now fast looks good - all happy.
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Translation: Telstra's ROM Sucks.
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But no - bloody GPS won't work so after a further 5 hours of stuffing round now 1am have given up. Can't find location settings for the quick GPS (have bloody scoured this forum and google) installed Tom tom 7.19, 7.10 (4 versions so far) - map works just no bloody GPS, google maps won't work - yep no bloody GPS. remove faulty blue-tooth drivers - hard booted, soft booted, even thrown the stupid thing across the room - yep that did not help either.
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Translation: Your GPS is broken.
grungysquash said:
Never had these issues with the TyTn II - how the heck can a new state of the art phone be just as useless as this.
rant over - off to bed.
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Install QuickGPS, you'll be able to easily see the status of the GPS with it.. If it's not getting any sats, the GPS is broken for whatever reason. There's not likely any settings in QuickGPS you need to do unless Telestra set it wrong in the registry. I recall reading some folks found UK where they needed US in the QuickGPS registry entries, thus downloading the wrong set of ephemeris data. Possible, but regardless of bad QuickGPS data if it doesn't get sats within a minute there is a hardware problem. QuickGPS data just gives it some initial information in order to more quickly evaluate satellite positions.
Get Energy's rom
You gotta ask yourself, why am I the only person with this problem.
grungysquash said:
I have always thought HTC had excellent phone - so I went out and brought the touch pro 2 to to replace my TyTn ii.
boy what a mistake - sorry but I'm really sick of the problems (owned for less than 1 day!!!), first Telstra had the phone so full of crud that it ran like a 3 legged dog, then could not get the darn thing to sync with exchange server until I found a post recommending the change of the setting under one of the data options, this only took 2 hours of troubleshooting (still can't get it to sync when plugged in has to flash a cab for the hardspl to work) - no problem flashed new Rom from 6.1 to 6.5 using the energy rom - which I have to admit fixed all the issues, now fast looks good - all happy.
But no - bloody GPS won't work so after a further 5 hours of stuffing round now 1am have given up. Can't find location settings for the quick GPS (have bloody scoured this forum and google) installed Tom tom 7.19, 7.10 (4 versions so far) - map works just no bloody GPS, google maps won't work - yep no bloody GPS. remove faulty blue-tooth drivers - hard booted, soft booted, even thrown the stupid thing across the room - yep that did not help either.
Never had these issues with the TyTn II - how the heck can a new state of the art phone be just as useless as this.
rant over - off to bed.
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Unlucky mate - you picked the right ROM, just the wrong version. GPS isn't working on the latest NRG ROM. I'm sure it'll be fixed shortly but in the meantime I'd use the previous version.
The TP2 is definitely THE best phone currently available.
Ramsfan_Jim said:
Unlucky mate - you picked the right ROM, just the wrong version. GPS isn't working on the latest NRG ROM. I'm sure it'll be fixed shortly but in the meantime I'd use the previous version.
The TP2 is definitely THE best phone currently available.
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am running Pure Energy's 24th rom - which I think is brilliant, if this has a fault (seems there is a post which shows someone else has the identical problem.) then this would explain this.
Will flash the older rom and see how I go - a new day a new challenge, have to admit the phone looks nice again this morning just had to reset the exchange settings after the hard reset. Everything works except the GPS
I did google into ppcgeeks forum but have not joined - have been flashing phones since I struggled with the mighty JamJam with winmo5, (ended up flashing 4 others too for work mates who got sick of the soft reset) have always been able to sort issues like this out just this one I could not resolve.
GPS is fine in the Energy Phoenix2 28002 build. I loaded it shortly before the 28004 version was up'ed and would imagine GPS would be fine there too based on the very minimal amount of changes to the ROM.
GPS seems to be broken in the new 21876 build, as used in the very latest EnergyROM. There weren't any reported problems with GPS in the builds before that. Remember, you've downloaded a brand-new cooked ROM on the day it was released, everyone is effectively beta testing this ROM !
Use one of the preceding versions of EnergyROM and you should be fine.
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am running Pure Energy's 24th rom - which I think is brilliant, if this has a fault (seems there is a post which shows someone else has the identical problem.) then this would explain this.
Will flash the older rom and see how I go - a new day a new challenge, have to admit the phone looks nice again this morning just had to reset the exchange settings after the hard reset. Everything works except the GPS
I did google into ppcgeeks forum but have not joined - have been flashing phones since I struggled with the mighty JamJam with winmo5, (ended up flashing 4 others too for work mates who got sick of the soft reset) have always been able to sort issues like this out just this one I could not resolve.
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OK confirmed - it's the ROM - flashed back to 19 Nov NRG EnergyROM GPS working, so it seems the 24 November ROM has a problem which seems to affect the unlucky. I guess the fact I flashed the rom on day of release coupled with the fact it was the first ROM I had flashed on the phone (only hours old) I assumed there was some fault with the unit - when the fault lies with the user. Time to Slap myself DOH
I apologize for my above rant, brought on by hours of frustration and lack of sleep - maybe the three or so beers did not help with the trouble shooting either.

update available 1.21.405.2

I just tried to check for updates for my desire (unrooted) and I saw that I can update to 1.21.405.2.
UPDATE:
It seems that the update is only available for the EU unbranded roms.
Changes reported:
- Updates bootloader to 0.80
- New radio image
- New youtube app with HQ option (1.6.20E).
- Fixed htc's weather widget (integrated into clock&weather widget) not knowing where you are (1.15.xxx just said the name of the country in some countries).
- SMS issue (from non-numerical senders) is resolved.
- fixed random contact showing when receiving operator SMS.
- fixes the voicemail bug for the French carrier SFR (short voicemail number used to call 911/emergency).
- Messages app now shows a count on the number of messages in the SMS inbox.
- calendar/contacts bug - unable to store contact's birthday - has been fixed.
- Long click on the menu button when in home screen now doesnt pop up the keyboard, like it uselessly did before.
- SMS reader does not show the little smiley androids any more - just the mere types.
- Exchange Company Address Book is now properly working. Was unable to use before the update.
- They have disabled the snooze function on the Optical trackpad for calendar events. This means that it is now possible to have the phone in your pocket without accidentally snoozing the alarms.
Known issues:
- OTA update on debranded/rooted roms resolves in wifi not working - debranded may be specific for orange.
- Doesnt fully charge for the first couple of times, probably a calibiration thing, it's ok after 3-5 charges.
OOO thats new I checked this morning and it wasn't there.
this is an up date for HTC Applications, well thats what it says.
27.2 mb can't be a big deal.
I'm on it now, seems fine...the MCR custom ROMs are based on it but I got bored of them so went stock
Updating to 1.21.405.2 changes your bootloader to 0.80 and currently it is unavailable to downgrade back to 0.75.
This means that if you ever want to run an RUU to revert back to stock you won't be able to since that requires a 0.75 bootloader.
You can get the stock 1.21.405.2 ROM from my sig so you can go back whenever needed...you just cant go back to 1.15.405.4
well atleast this shows progress at the HTC camp. Real question is whether this is it, or is it work around the 2.2 update?
Where can i find what differneces are on this update.
Can i still root my desire if i want to after this update?
diablous said:
well atleast this shows progress at the HTC camp. Real question is whether this is it, or is it work around the 2.2 update?
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This rom has been out for quite some time now. Small little patches are hardly anything compared to moving up an entire OS revision.
Orka82 said:
Can i still root my desire if i want to after this update?
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Yes but you'll need to use the 0.80 method.
abc27 said:
This rom has been out for quite some time now.
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How long is that? If this is how long it takes HTC to port their UI onto a new build of the SAME OS it's not looking good.
It was posted in ROM Dev about 3 weeks ago now, maybe longer...
EDIT: 19th May
Wonder if O2 users will get an update.. I'm feeling left out
Im on o2, too. Hope they will get this update soon.
Not that its a big thing... but it would make me feel optimistic for future updates (2.2?) if theyd get this done quickly...
the O2 Desire is pretty much brand new so won't have an update yet - it's going to be HTC bringing the other units up to speed...
so what is this update???? Anyone
dexteral said:
so what is this update???? Anyone
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Minor fixes. New radio image. New youtube app with HQ option (with a widget that doesn't work if you're logged in to your account). New bootloader. Fixed Facebook/unknown contact issue (haven't verified this personally).
I flashed the rom from the dev forum a couple of days ago, but haven't noticed any other changes yet.
The news widget still doesn't update automatically.
tuatha said:
Minor fixes. New radio image. New youtube app with HQ option (with a widget that doesn't work if you're logged in to your account). New bootloader. Fixed Facebook/unknown contact issue (haven't verified this personally).
I flashed the rom from the dev forum a couple of days ago, but haven't noticed any other changes yet.
The news widget still doesn't update automatically.
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thanks hope froyo's next..
edit: i think speaker is also louder ... though it may just be me
I get the HQ option in the Youtube app when logged in to my account
Ah well...that will teach me to be fast.
Updated via 3G at work. Got home and just realised my Wifi no longer works. Refuses to start after the update. Tried several reboots...nothing.
It doesn't even TRY to start, as soon as you select the check box to enable Wifi it instantly says "Unable to start Wi-Fi"
This sucks.
Re: updating to 1.21.405.2, should I?
Just updated, and I can now see Google earth in the market place, perhaps just simple coincidence
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